MoBetterBliss said:

stillwaiting said:

When it comes to band members, he usually wants somebody who will take the smallest paycheck possible. That's his mindset...cheap over quality with Prince every single time.

so he's never had any decent band members?

what a load of absolute rubbish

The guys or gals quote of cheap is bs, inneudeo and conjecture,,, Speaking of money , Gouche stated that he gets more money to show up at practice then he did as being the musical director on tour for many acts...So however this guy Prince is cheap with its BS>> And please dont bring no quotes up about him paying the time 100 in 1981

MoBetterBliss said:

stillwaiting said:

When it comes to band members, he usually wants somebody who will take the smallest paycheck possible. That's his mindset...cheap over quality with Prince every single time.

so he's never had any decent band members?

what a load of absolute rubbish

The guys or gals quote of cheap is bs, inneudeo and conjecture,,, Speaking of money , Gouche stated that he gets more money to show up at practice then he did as being the musical director on tour for many acts...So however this guy Prince is cheap with its BS>> And please dont bring no quotes up about him paying the time 100 in 1981

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

wonder505 said:

I know right. Grown ass people making up stories to just to make a point.

I didn't make up any damn thing, so you can stop repeating that lie on me, because you don't want to admit the fucking truth to yourself and/or to Prince's readers, that the song is just plain lousy.

Not that I have to explain myself to you but for your information, when I posted my comment, I was having Easter Dinner at the Westin Hotel in Southfield, in the Algonquin Ballroom as my family and friends have done every year for the last 5 years. Since the festivites were winding down, and I had my laptop, as I always do, I went to the front desk, got the guestcode to access the internet and ended up here. As I said, I took my headphones off and let the 30 or so people left, that I personally know had varying degrees of Prince likability, hear the damn song as I was hearing it because I honestly couldn't believe my damn ears. At first, most of them didn't even believe that it was Prince, at all. When I finally convinced them that it indeed was Prince and not a joke on my part or some imposter, the reactions were as I stated.

Believe me, don't believe me. I don't give a fuck but for crying out loud, STOP LYING TO THAT DAMN MAN!!!!!!

I'll laugh my motherfucking ass off, if it turns out that Prince released that craptacular mess on purpose, just to see how many of you so called "fams" would actually be honest about it.

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If you look at my review of this song, I didnt give it flying colors either. I just dont believe your story and believe that outside of the Org nobody really gives a shit. and why would these 30 people believe or not believe that it is Prince. Do they follow his career closely enough to decipher and pick up on Prince's playing style by ear? All he did was slow the song down. Why would these 30 people even think that it was an imposter?Your story just sounds silly and unbelievable.

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kangafunk said:

Aren't we all lucky that we love an artist that doesn't just go out there and play songs exactly the same as they were played on record year after year, because if that were the case there would no reason to keep going back tour after tour.

I really like this direction, slightly dark and edgy. If a new load of songs follow this theme I'll be more than happy.

If we were really lucky, we'd love an artist that could still write a good song and have some intererst in playing it live!

rdhull said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I didn't make up any damn thing, so you can stop repeating that lie on me, because you don't want to admit the fucking truth to yourself and/or to Prince's readers, that the song is just plain lousy.

Not that I have to explain myself to you but for your information, when I posted my comment, I was having Easter Dinner at the Westin Hotel in Southfield, in the Algonquin Ballroom as my family and friends have done every year for the last 5 years. Since the festivites were winding down, and I had my laptop, as I always do, I went to the front desk, got the guestcode to access the internet and ended up here. As I said, I took my headphones off and let the 30 or so people left, that I personally know had varying degrees of Prince likability, hear the damn song as I was hearing it because I honestly couldn't believe my damn ears. At first, most of them didn't even believe that it was Prince, at all. When I finally convinced them that it indeed was Prince and not a joke on my part or some imposter, the reactions were as I stated.

Believe me, don't believe me. I don't give a fuck but for crying out loud, STOP LYING TO THAT DAMN MAN!!!!!!

I'll laugh my motherfucking ass off, if it turns out that Prince released that craptacular mess on purpose, just to see how many of you so called "fams" would actually be honest about it.

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This broad took her laprop to a hoity toity easter function at a hotel

RIGHT!!!

Friends and family aside, I'd consider that person an inconsiderate guest and want to smash the laptop over said guests fucking head, even if they were family. No wonder those 30 people were looking so miserable.

One person dominating proceedings. "Listen to this! Listen to this!" ugh.

Superconductor said:

As to this slowed down version of the song, I like that Prince re-arranges his songs and I like the bluesey, raw style but I am not into heavy rock. So the first two minutes feel good and then it gets too heavy for me and the end is a typical solo guitar ending. Will listen to it a few more times to see if it grows on me. And peeps should stop criticising Hannah, her drumming serves the song, that is what is important. She is an awesome drummer. Her style is rock, not funk. It is becoming obvious that the Thirdeyegirl band is about heavier, more rocknroll type sound than the NPG with Blackwell and horns.

There it is.

The comment suggesting that interest in the track is "lying to the man" is odd to me.

For people who appreciate dirty and more raw rock like Kyuss, Queens of the Stone Age, or hell The White Stripes, this sound is something that is enjoyable.

The same kind of goes for the criticism of Hannah. I honestly won't pretend to know what she is capable, and I won't be able to truly criticize her drumming from a technical standpoint in a lot of ways, but I like the sound of the way she hits and I like, as Superconducter puts it, how her performance serves the song.

I don't like this very much too slow version..

sounds like I'm listening to the 45 rpm single BUT on 33 1/3 rpm..

change the speed -- god damn it...

thedance said:

I don't like this very much too slow version..

sounds like I'm listening to the 45 rpm single BUT on 33 1/3 rpm..

change the speed -- god damn it...

You better explain that to the younger fans

motherfunka said:

kangafunk said:

Aren't we all lucky that we love an artist that doesn't just go out there and play songs exactly the same as they were played on record year after year, because if that were the case there would no reason to keep going back tour after tour.

I really like this direction, slightly dark and edgy. If a new load of songs follow this theme I'll be more than happy.

If we were really lucky, we'd love an artist that could still write a good song and have some intererst in playing it live!

Nah, we're lucky believe me. Prince is sub human for even having mediocre songs still left in his brain after such a vast and quality back catalogue. Then on top of that, at his age, his live shows still amaze non Prince fans.

http://social.entertainme...gar-winter

Who is Edgar Winter?

Relative of Ophelia?

Superconductor said:

I've edited my original post to say that she is a good drummer, not awesome. Technically there are better female drummers out there. But at the end of the day this is the drummer on this version of the song and we can either like the sound of the drums and the song or not.

Cool. I've looked over my post and my sentiment remains the same. Technically, there are always better drummers out there. Crazy, right?

I enjoy this intepretation, and I enjoy the sound as I enjoy similiar types of sound from other artists, newer and older.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Y'know...if he's in this kind of mood, he oughta inject a little "Smoke on the Water." Ida could have a field day with the base line in that.

rdhull said:

RodeoSchro said:

You don't like Gina Shock?!? I'm...........shocked!

I love herand the Go Go's (didnt she had a hole in her heart that was repaired back then?) but come on..shes what? 60 now?

edit: not sure if you are taking the piss with mentioning Gina though because she is not all that and never was lol

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I don't know if she's all that and a bag of chips but I thought she kept the best rock beats around.

She's 55.

Woops, didnt' see this thread before I started my own on it.

It's always interesting to me to hear Prince slip some classic rock into the mix. It's hard to know exactly which rock he heard growing up...or is just getting into now.

Always loved Let's go Crazy. Great piece of music.

Solo at the and is killer too.

mano said:

Woops, didnt' see this thread before I started my own on it.

It's always interesting to me to hear Prince slip some classic rock into the mix. It's hard to know exactly which rock he heard growing up...or is just getting into now.

Always loved Let's go Crazy. Great piece of music.

Solo at the and is killer too.

Prince and I are close in age, and both grew up in the midwest (he in Minnesota, I in Wisconsin). I can tell you exactly what rock he heard on the radio growing up: Santana, Led Zeppelin, The Moody Blues, Edgar Winter, Deep Purple, The Doobie Brothers, Foreigner, The Eagles, Rick Derringer, Three Dog Night, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Grand Funk Railroad and Queen. That's just off the top of my head.

Genesia said:

Prince and I are close in age, and both grew up in the midwest (he in Minnesota, I in Wisconsin). I can tell you exactly what rock he heard on the radio growing up: Santana, Led Zeppelin, The Moody Blues, Edgar Winter, Deep Purple, The Doobie Brothers, Foreigner, The Eagles, Rick Derringer, Three Dog Night, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Grand Funk Railroad and Queen. That's just off the top of my head.

Yep. We call it KQRS here in Minneapolis/Saint Paul. No doubt Prince grew up on this.

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Nah... this is fonky. And hard rock. Runk? Fock? Fuck?

Whatever. It's scrunch face time.

MoBetterBliss said:

stillwaiting said:

When it comes to band members, he usually wants somebody who will take the smallest paycheck possible. That's his mindset...cheap over quality with Prince every single time.

so he's never had any decent band members?

what a load of absolute rubbish

Yep, if you CAREFULLY READ my post, I CLEARLY outline that his band members have always stunk from day one. I make that SPECIFICALLY CLEAR.

Now for those who can read past a 1st grade level....I said he USUALLY wants someone who will take the smallest paycheck possible. (How that somehow is translated to I think all his band members suck....is beyond me.)

I did not mention a timeframe, but one can sort of infer that I'm talking about the last few years.

I also mentioned that I liked the 3rd Eye Girl Band. But I would be lying if I said they are world class musicians...they are not.

Prince has a history of people leaving his camp and NEVER Talking to him EVER AGAIN....is it because Prince is weird, crazy, etc? Well, to a point...but what is the NUMBER ONE cause of BROKEN RELATIONSHIPS of any Kind????? Personal or Professional????

Gee, Money...how did I come up with that...lucky guess???

I have actually talked to former Prince employees. If I was lied to...I stand corrected, but I stand by my opinion until I am convinced. Ever see the kind of cars parked at Paisley Park by his own employees???? That's what I'm talking about.

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[Edited 4/3/13 17:02pm]

Now that's how you rock. Dirty, sleazy and HEAVY. Not like that soft rock, Screwdriver stuff.

Me likes.

[Edited 4/3/13 18:36pm]

stillwaiting said:

MoBetterBliss said:

so he's never had any decent band members?

what a load of absolute rubbish

Yep, if you CAREFULLY READ my post, I CLEARLY outline that his band members have always stunk from day one. I make that SPECIFICALLY CLEAR.

Now for those who can read past a 1st grade level....I said he USUALLY wants someone who will take the smallest paycheck possible. (How that somehow is translated to I think all his band members suck....is beyond me.)

I did not mention a timeframe, but one can sort of infer that I'm talking about the last few years.

I also mentioned that I liked the 3rd Eye Girl Band. But I would be lying if I said they are world class musicians...they are not.

Prince has a history of people leaving his camp and NEVER Talking to him EVER AGAIN....is it because Prince is weird, crazy, etc? Well, to a point...but what is the NUMBER ONE cause of BROKEN RELATIONSHIPS of any Kind????? Personal or Professional????

Gee, Money...how did I come up with that...lucky guess???

I have actually talked to former Prince employees. If I was lied to...I stand corrected, but I stand by my opinion until I am convinced. Ever see the kind of cars parked at Paisley Park by his own employees???? That's what I'm talking about.

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[Edited 4/3/13 17:02pm]

umm... you said "That's his mindset...cheap over quality with Prince every single time"

that's what you said... you can be a smartarse all you like.. it doesn't make your initial post any less stupid

MoBetterBliss said:

stillwaiting said:

Yep, if you CAREFULLY READ my post, I CLEARLY outline that his band members have always stunk from day one. I make that SPECIFICALLY CLEAR.

Now for those who can read past a 1st grade level....I said he USUALLY wants someone who will take the smallest paycheck possible. (How that somehow is translated to I think all his band members suck....is beyond me.)

I did not mention a timeframe, but one can sort of infer that I'm talking about the last few years.

I also mentioned that I liked the 3rd Eye Girl Band. But I would be lying if I said they are world class musicians...they are not.

Prince has a history of people leaving his camp and NEVER Talking to him EVER AGAIN....is it because Prince is weird, crazy, etc? Well, to a point...but what is the NUMBER ONE cause of BROKEN RELATIONSHIPS of any Kind????? Personal or Professional????

Gee, Money...how did I come up with that...lucky guess???

I have actually talked to former Prince employees. If I was lied to...I stand corrected, but I stand by my opinion until I am convinced. Ever see the kind of cars parked at Paisley Park by his own employees???? That's what I'm talking about.

[Edited 4/3/13 17:01pm]

[Edited 4/3/13 17:02pm]

umm... you said "That's his mindset...cheap over quality with Prince every single time"

that's what you said... you can be a smartarse all you like.. it doesn't make your initial post any less stupid

stillwaiting has a point here. I've seen the car that poor Eric Leeds (for example) was driving back in 2003 when he was at Paisley meeting with Prince. It was more of a junker than my current car is, and Eric has played on many, many high-selling Prince releases. Not to single Eric out or anything, but Prince is well known to be cheap as hell. To say otherwise just proves that you haven't been a fan for very long or haven't been paying attention.

theblueangel said:

MoBetterBliss said:

umm... you said "That's his mindset...cheap over quality with Prince every single time"

that's what you said... you can be a smartarse all you like.. it doesn't make your initial post any less stupid

stillwaiting has a point here. I've seen the car that poor Eric Leeds (for example) was driving back in 2003 when he was at Paisley meeting with Prince. It was more of a junker than my current car is, and Eric has played on many, many high-selling Prince releases. Not to single Eric out or anything, but Prince is well known to be cheap as hell. To say otherwise just proves that you haven't been a fan for very long or haven't been paying attention.

i don't care if eric leeds rolled up on rollerskates he borrowed from his little sister

this conversation started because of someone's musical ability... and the dude said "CHEAP OVER QUALITY WITH PRINCE EVERY SINGLE TIME"

are you going to tell me eric leeds isn't a quality musician?

MoBetterBliss said:

i don't care if eric leeds rolled up on rollerskates he borrowed from his little sister

this conversation started because of someone's musical ability... and the dude said "CHEAP OVER QUALITY WITH PRINCE EVERY SINGLE TIME"

are you going to tell me eric leeds isn't a quality musician?

Of course not - in my opinion, Eric Leeds is about the best musician Prince has ever had the luck of playing with. Sadly, he no longer uses him, because he doesn't want to pay him what he's worth. That was widely reported after NEWS came out and Prince stopped having Eric play with him onstage.

There have been multitudes of similiar reports with quality musicians over the years. Regardless of why someone might think that he would choose a few young women to be in his band, I think it's naive to think that the fact that he undoubtedly can get them for much cheaper than established musicians wasn't part of his decision-making process.

But I digress.... and I really like this new version of Let's Go Crazy. It sounds better than it has in almost 30 years live. I'm okay with his new band, and I'd love to see them live - but like many of Prince's former bandmembers, I can't afford it.

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theblueangel said:

MoBetterBliss said:

i don't care if eric leeds rolled up on rollerskates he borrowed from his little sister

this conversation started because of someone's musical ability... and the dude said "CHEAP OVER QUALITY WITH PRINCE EVERY SINGLE TIME"

are you going to tell me eric leeds isn't a quality musician?

Of course not - in my opinion, Eric Leeds is about the best musician Prince has ever had the luck of playing with. Sadly, he no longer uses him, because he doesn't want to pay him what he's worth. That was widely reported after NEWS came out and Prince stopped having Eric play with him onstage.

There have been multitudes of similiar reports with quality musicians over the years. Regardless of why someone might think that he would choose a few young women to be in his band, I think it's naive to think that the fact that he undoubtedly can get them for much cheaper than established musicians wasn't part of his decision-making process.

But I digress.... and I really like this new version of Let's Go Crazy. It sounds better than it has in almost 30 years live. I'm okay with his new band, and I'd love to see them live - but like many of Prince's former bandmembers, I can't afford it.

[Edited 4/3/13 20:47pm]

you simply don't have a point... you're off on a tangent that has absolutely nothing to do with the original conversation

i'll say this one last time... the dude said "cheap over quality with prince every single time".... every time i've been to a prince show there's been quality musicians on stage with him... regardless of what he paid them... this conversation began about someone's playing ability... end of story... the argument is finished... i won... now be quiet... thanks

theblueangel said:

MoBetterBliss said:

umm... you said "That's his mindset...cheap over quality with Prince every single time"

that's what you said... you can be a smartarse all you like.. it doesn't make your initial post any less stupid

stillwaiting has a point here. I've seen the car that poor Eric Leeds (for example) was driving back in 2003 when he was at Paisley meeting with Prince. It was more of a junker than my current car is, and Eric has played on many, many high-selling Prince releases. Not to single Eric out or anything, but Prince is well known to be cheap as hell. To say otherwise just proves that you haven't been a fan for very long or haven't been paying attention.

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MoBetterBliss said: