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Reply #270 posted 03/16/10 12:10pm

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Mars23 said:

emilio319 said:

erik319 said:
Prince doesn't give away albums of unreleased music for free. Simple as. And if he had, it'd be edited, overdubbed and Starfish & Coffee/Dorothy Parker wouldn't be on there. Neither would Wonderful Ass come to that.

Prince did not leak this, someone else did, and I am grateful that they did.


*edited for dreadful spelling mistakes wink
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You cannot know that for sure. Again, hypothetically speaking, if he were to release it like this he wouldn't have to answer questions about it or read articles questioning "Why is he releasing this now" and "Is he releasing this now because he feels that his 80's material is better than his current material"...etc. This would be a great way to remind people of what a genius you are... Releasing music without officially releasing it. If you think that idea is far-fetched than you are being very close minded (I'm speaking to everyone). It would be very easy for him to do this if he wanted to. I have absolutely no insider knowledge or anything like that, just a hardcore music fan who is pointing out the obvious.



I can reveal to you the percentage of involvement Prince has had with these recent releases.














0%





That would mean that out of a possible 100% involvement, the actual percentage is 0. Zero means none, as in no involvement. Its like when someone could have done something, but didn't. In that case you would say "hey, he had nothing to do with that" and I would say "yes, he had zero involvement".



Is that 0% rounded down? As in, he had 0.001% to do with it, but you're just rounding to 0% because you're part of the anti-conspiracy conspiracy? smile
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Reply #271 posted 03/16/10 12:25pm

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I love how This Feeling I Got and We Can Funk cross into each other so well!
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Reply #272 posted 03/16/10 2:25pm

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Even Prince thinks this bootleg is twice as good as Purple And Gold.
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Reply #273 posted 03/16/10 2:40pm

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Even worse, he even wonders if he leaked it himself.
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Reply #274 posted 03/16/10 3:13pm

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Downloading as we speak. I gotta boner.
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Reply #275 posted 03/16/10 4:37pm

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Prince's whole career has been riddled with lies. I'm not saying he DID release this, but I'm not saying he didn't either. He could've had a source close to him release this as a way of testing the waters....to see if it was "warm enough" as it were...shall we begin?
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Reply #276 posted 03/16/10 5:08pm

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I lost sleep listening to this last night, which made a day of jury duty mighty rough.

The theories of Prince's involvement in this are quite entertaining. I'm sure he is "less than happy" about this release. Prince wants control of his music, right? He just performed the All Day All Night concerts, do you really think he wants that track released for free? I think he has something planned for it to be released, most likely a re-recording ala In a Large Room With No Light. Then again, I'm just guessing.

Wonderful Ass has Wendy and Lisa's involvement, and I'm sure that would be a little sketchy for him to release without their permission. There's no point in even mentioning the SOTT tracks really since WB owns the masters for those. They're not his to release...yet.

I'm rambling here. I tend to do that. I find it surprising that Prince fans in this day and age would really think he'd make a business move like this. Yes, he has given away music for free, but it's always with a purpose, right? Musicology w/concerts, Planet Earth w/ UK paper (and major payday). He's always clearly behind his releases.

Crystal Ball II could have been like this, but we would have a back-masked Wonderful A**. I bet the tracks would be mastered brittle and maxed out as well if they came from him.

Again, I'm only guessing. I know nothing.
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Reply #277 posted 03/16/10 5:39pm

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mypancakeplaces said:

I love how This Feeling I Got and We Can Funk cross into each other so well!


You mean the same way they did 20 years ago when the Crucial boot came out?
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Reply #278 posted 03/16/10 5:42pm

emilio319

NightGod said:

I lost sleep listening to this last night, which made a day of jury duty mighty rough.

The theories of Prince's involvement in this are quite entertaining. I'm sure he is "less than happy" about this release. Prince wants control of his music, right? He just performed the All Day All Night concerts, do you really think he wants that track released for free? I think he has something planned for it to be released, most likely a re-recording ala In a Large Room With No Light. Then again, I'm just guessing.

Wonderful Ass has Wendy and Lisa's involvement, and I'm sure that would be a little sketchy for him to release without their permission. There's no point in even mentioning the SOTT tracks really since WB owns the masters for those. They're not his to release...yet.

I'm rambling here. I tend to do that. I find it surprising that Prince fans in this day and age would really think he'd make a business move like this. Yes, he has given away music for free, but it's always with a purpose, right? Musicology w/concerts, Planet Earth w/ UK paper (and major payday). He's always clearly behind his releases.

Crystal Ball II could have been like this, but we would have a back-masked Wonderful A**. I bet the tracks would be mastered brittle and maxed out as well if they came from him.

Again, I'm only guessing. I know nothing.


Well, you may be right....or you may be wrong, I'm just guessing too.
But if you recall, he put up "Large Room With No Light" basically for free around the time of the "All Day All Night" Paris concerts. You technically couldn't just download it but you could if you knew how to.

And regarding what you said about "Wonderful Ass" & Wendy & Lisa.... Wouldn't this be a perfect way to release the song without officially releasing it and thus avoiding all the legalities. I'm getting the impression that the people behind the release are fans that are on here on the org, which is fine...
So I guess Prince isn't behind this at all according to most people on here.
My point is simply that the idea of him doing something like this is not that crazy, that's all.

And once again I will point out that the Roadhouse Rehearsal footage is STILL up right now. What's up with that? Is it too crazy to think Prince leaked that as well? He could easily take it down if he wanted to but it's been up for over a month. Yes I could be wrong but the theory of Prince being behind SOME (not all) bootlegs is not that crazy at all.

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Reply #279 posted 03/16/10 6:57pm

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emilio319 said:

NightGod said:

I lost sleep listening to this last night, which made a day of jury duty mighty rough.

The theories of Prince's involvement in this are quite entertaining. I'm sure he is "less than happy" about this release. Prince wants control of his music, right? He just performed the All Day All Night concerts, do you really think he wants that track released for free? I think he has something planned for it to be released, most likely a re-recording ala In a Large Room With No Light. Then again, I'm just guessing.

Wonderful Ass has Wendy and Lisa's involvement, and I'm sure that would be a little sketchy for him to release without their permission. There's no point in even mentioning the SOTT tracks really since WB owns the masters for those. They're not his to release...yet.

I'm rambling here. I tend to do that. I find it surprising that Prince fans in this day and age would really think he'd make a business move like this. Yes, he has given away music for free, but it's always with a purpose, right? Musicology w/concerts, Planet Earth w/ UK paper (and major payday). He's always clearly behind his releases.

Crystal Ball II could have been like this, but we would have a back-masked Wonderful A**. I bet the tracks would be mastered brittle and maxed out as well if they came from him.

Again, I'm only guessing. I know nothing.


Well, you may be right....or you may be wrong, I'm just guessing too.
But if you recall, he put up "Large Room With No Light" basically for free around the time of the "All Day All Night" Paris concerts. You technically couldn't just download it but you could if you knew how to.

And regarding what you said about "Wonderful Ass" & Wendy & Lisa.... Wouldn't this be a perfect way to release the song without officially releasing it and thus avoiding all the legalities. I'm getting the impression that the people behind the release are fans that are on here on the org, which is fine...
So I guess Prince isn't behind this at all according to most people on here.
My point is simply that the idea of him doing something like this is not that crazy, that's all.

And once again I will point out that the Roadhouse Rehearsal footage is STILL up right now. What's up with that? Is it too crazy to think Prince leaked that as well? He could easily take it down if he wanted to but it's been up for over a month. Yes I could be wrong but the theory of Prince being behind SOME (not all) bootlegs is not that crazy at all.



There are no "legalities": Prince needs no permission from anyone to release any material he ever recorded with any of his bands, he even has his musicians sign contracts about this and anyway W&L did not co-compose Wonderful Ass, they just remixed it. Keep in mind that Prince had Myspace take away the "Mia Bocca" video from Jill Jones' own profile because he considers it "his" song, and he legally had the right to do it even though she sings it.

There's TONS of Prince these days and if it's not on it's on other similar websites including ones from Russia or China that are way outta reach for Prince's lawyers. Obviously Prince is letting things be cooler with lately because he just realizes that he CAN'T possibly prevent this. Besides, the rehearsal videos you're talking about WERE taken down on the next day their "release" was made public (i know because i tried to watch them and they were taken away), but they were reposted and reposted again and it just was too late to prevent it because many people have them by now. For crying out loud, even Lotusflow3r.com videos are on several video websites (and i'm not talking about the girl we aren't allowed to talk about) and there's just nothing Prince can do about it except taking a few videos down here & there... And YEAH, this rehearsal was already circulating anyway.

As for the A6 video, yeah, so is the Madhouse film and the "18 & over" video, and no one suspected Prince when they leaked online a few years back.

The BOC songs have a great quality for bootlegs, but just listen 2 "Crystal Ball" (the album) and u'll hear how they would sound if Prince had released them himself. I hardly understand why he would have them being released (again) on boots if it wasn't to have them sound crystal clear.

I respect your theories but they go against every probability, against everything we know about Prince and against any common sense when Prince could easily sell several hundreds of thousands (if not billions if promoted properly) CD's or internet memberships if these songs were released officially. Forgive me if i'm wrong but i assume you haven't been a Prince fan for too many years, which might explain why you believe such things (no offense meant).

Can't Boris come here and end this? I guess if HE says it at least people will believe him cool

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Reply #280 posted 03/16/10 7:51pm

Mong

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Prince's whole career has been riddled with lies. I'm not saying he DID release this, but I'm not saying he didn't either. He could've had a source close to him release this as a way of testing the waters....to see if it was "warm enough" as it were...shall we begin?


Silly. The sound quality of the outtakes isn't equal to officially released material. You're being blind to the flaws. Prince wouldn't release something in this comparatively below-par quality.
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Reply #281 posted 03/16/10 7:56pm

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I only hope there's another tape somewhere with
In A Large Room,
Big Tall Wall,
Neon Telephone,
Joy in Repetiton with the great intro
Heaven with the intro intact
and the third version of Witness.

All in the same stunning quality.
[Edited 3/14/10 14:53pm]


'Neon Telephone', 'In a Large Room with no Light' & 'Witness' are all out there in the same quality... you just have to search hard for them
(and if you can get a friend with a home studio to re-master the recordings ... that helps).
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Reply #282 posted 03/16/10 7:57pm

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i stunted on this release, but am bumping it right now and they do sound a shitload better cool
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Reply #283 posted 03/16/10 8:01pm

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Why do I keep expecting to hear "Neon Telephone" after "Wonderful Ass"? hmmm
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Reply #284 posted 03/16/10 8:03pm

emilio319

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emilio319 said:



Well, you may be right....or you may be wrong, I'm just guessing too.
But if you recall, he put up "Large Room With No Light" basically for free around the time of the "All Day All Night" Paris concerts. You technically couldn't just download it but you could if you knew how to.

And regarding what you said about "Wonderful Ass" & Wendy & Lisa.... Wouldn't this be a perfect way to release the song without officially releasing it and thus avoiding all the legalities. I'm getting the impression that the people behind the release are fans that are on here on the org, which is fine...
So I guess Prince isn't behind this at all according to most people on here.
My point is simply that the idea of him doing something like this is not that crazy, that's all.

And once again I will point out that the Roadhouse Rehearsal footage is STILL up right now. What's up with that? Is it too crazy to think Prince leaked that as well? He could easily take it down if he wanted to but it's been up for over a month. Yes I could be wrong but the theory of Prince being behind SOME (not all) bootlegs is not that crazy at all.



There are no "legalities": Prince needs no permission from anyone to release any material he ever recorded with any of his bands, he even has his musicians sign contracts about this and anyway W&L did not co-compose Wonderful Ass, they just remixed it. Keep in mind that Prince had Myspace take away the "Mia Bocca" video from Jill Jones' own profile because he considers it "his" song, and he legally had the right to do it even though she sings it.

There's TONS of Prince material these days and if it's not on it's on other similar websites including ones from Russia or China that are way outta reach for Prince's lawyers. Obviously Prince is letting things be cooler with lately because he just realizes that he CAN'T possibly prevent this. Besides, the rehearsal videos you're talking about WERE taken down on the next day their "release" was made public (i know because i tried to watch them and they were taken away), but they were reposted and reposted again and it just was too late to prevent it because many people have them by now. For crying out loud, even Lotusflow3r.com videos are on several video websites (and i'm not talking about the girl we aren't allowed to talk about) and there's just nothing Prince can do about it except taking a few videos down here & there... And YEAH, this rehearsal was already circulating anyway.

As for the A6 video, yeah, so is the Madhouse film and the "18 & over" video, and no one suspected Prince when they leaked online a few years back.

The BOC songs have a great quality for bootlegs, but just listen 2 "Crystal Ball" (the album) and u'll hear how they would sound if Prince had released them himself. I hardly understand why he would have them being released (again) on boots if it wasn't to have them sound crystal clear.

I respect your theories but they go against every probability, against everything we know about Prince and against any common sense when Prince could easily sell several hundreds of thousands (if not billions if promoted properly) CD's or internet memberships if these songs were released officially. Forgive me if i'm wrong but i assume you haven't been a Prince fan for too many years, which might explain why you believe such things (no offense meant).

Can't Boris come here and end this? I guess if HE says it at least people will believe him cool

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[Edited 3/16/10 19:03pm]


That's cool... I respect your answer and no I'm not offended at all but just for the record, I've been a Prince fan since 1983 when I was 8 and I have everything he's officially released and tons of bootlegs, both audio & dvd. You make some good points and I guess this is just one instance where I was looking at things differently than most people on here. I'm a fan of a few other artist who do release a lot of things online for free and maybe I've grown out of touch with the way Prince handles his business and have not been looking at things from the same p.o.v. that alot of you are but you make a good case.

Edit: Regarding the Wendy & Lisa and Wonderful Ass thing... I was just going by what the previous poster mentioned. I thought it was solely a Prince song myself. And regarding Boris, I don't really fully know who he is exactly but yes, he does seem to have the definitive answer to all Prince related questions so if he does post on here that would pretty much end any debate.
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Reply #285 posted 03/16/10 8:44pm

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"wendy wants to live forever. maybe she will...". had never heard that line at the beginning of all day, all night before doh! cool
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Reply #286 posted 03/16/10 8:56pm

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There is no debate.

Prince did not release this.

No matter how much you wish and how many times you post untrue theories, the simple FACT remains...Prince did not release this.
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #287 posted 03/16/10 9:35pm

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Mong said:

benjaminira said:

Prince's whole career has been riddled with lies. I'm not saying he DID release this, but I'm not saying he didn't either. He could've had a source close to him release this as a way of testing the waters....to see if it was "warm enough" as it were...shall we begin?


Silly. The sound quality of the outtakes isn't equal to officially released material. You're being blind to the flaws. Prince wouldn't release something in this comparatively below-par quality.
[Edited 3/16/10 19:52pm]

Apparently U must have an awesome quality of "Crystal Ball" wink
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Reply #288 posted 03/16/10 9:35pm

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Mars23 said:

There is no debate.

Prince did not release this.

No matter how much you wish and how many times you post untrue theories, the simple FACT remains...Prince did not release this.


Okay Bria, I think we get it.

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Reply #289 posted 03/16/10 9:39pm

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Ok.. i thought.. yeah yeah.. how great can this really be? shrug
But YES!!!!
excited Im impressed!! hope to see more !.. thanks 4 this free release!
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Reply #290 posted 03/16/10 9:50pm

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thedance said:

jayquan said:

Yep, DB is just nowhere near as funky as "I Just Want To BeI"

Really??? eek


Data Bank wow, that's an amazing Prince track, a classic. I don't know that Cameo track, it must be "seriously great" then. biggrin lol

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[Edited 3/16/10 21:58pm]
I know I got to be cooler than that cat you're sittin' with....


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Reply #291 posted 03/16/10 11:11pm

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I never realized before now how incredible All Day, All Night is.
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Reply #292 posted 03/17/10 12:17am

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HobbesLeCute said:

I never realized before now how incredible All Day, All Night is.

yeahthat
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Reply #293 posted 03/17/10 12:31am

veronikka

"Wonderful Ass" & "All Day All Night" love X Infinity
Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul
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Reply #294 posted 03/17/10 12:58am

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"Wonderful Ass" & "All Day All Night" love X Infinity


When Prince&the Revolution recorded these trax, they were on other Planet...the Planet of Full creativity & Fun.....now Prince is a very different person & artist....these trax & the other from Box O chocolates are 1000 better than any trax from the last 20 years!
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Reply #295 posted 03/17/10 1:04am

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veronikka said:

"Wonderful Ass" & "All Day All Night" love X Infinity

I agree! love
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Reply #296 posted 03/17/10 9:04am

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These are all such old tracks that have been around forever. Don't get what all the fuss is about.
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Reply #297 posted 03/17/10 9:06am

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Poplife88 said:

These are all such old tracks that have been around forever. Don't get what all the fuss is about.


The fuss is over the sound quality - not the tracks, themselves.
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Reply #298 posted 03/17/10 9:32am

Peacefulwild

mad I guess I won't be able to TASTE the chocolates.
Heal the body
Clear the mind
Open the heart
Free the spirit.
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Reply #299 posted 03/17/10 9:37am

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Peacefulwild said:

mad I guess I won't be able to TASTE the chocolates.


lol
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