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Reply #150 posted 07/28/09 6:19am

boom

boom said:

TyphoonTip said:



By whom?

Source?


I don't remember. I've read it in articles and heard it said many times. I can't think of anyone else who has successfully done so. (pop, rock, funk, r&b, soul, jazz, blues). But if you must see a source and quote, here's one:

"Dirty Mind has been said to be one of the most musically influential albums of the last 50 years (from SPIN and Rolling Stone magazines) and many of his other albums have been added to that list. Prince was the only artist to blend all of the previous genres (that contributed to funk) together with many other genres of music, like disco/dance, European/new romantic, new wave, folk, techno/electronic, Latin and world music, and hip-hop. This new genre of music that emerged from Prince' unique blend was called New Funk. As the generations went on, many musicians of all colors started listening to the music of the original African-American pioneers and were mainly influenced by them. However, Prince was one of the few remaining artists who continued the traditions of previous soul artists."

New Funk Order



One more:

"Like his 1978 debut, FOR YOU, Prince composed, played, sang, produced and arranged all the songs on his 1979 follow-up, simply titled PRINCE. While PRINCE features a number of great dance songs, it also gave his future audience an idea of what they could expect from a talent many consider the finest pop composer of the 1980s. Barely into his 20's, Prince already possessed a remarkable musical vocabulary and subterranean understanding of an untold number of musical genres--ones he was rapidly combining in a way no one had heard before. On the rocker "Bambi," Prince shows off his dazzling, heavy metal-styled guitar work, while on "Still Waiting" and the now-pop standard "I Feel For You," he displays the kind of gentleness reminiscent of the best of Smokey Robinson or Stevie Wonder."

Tower Records
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Reply #151 posted 07/28/09 11:24pm

CoolTarik1

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I'll chime in-

I'm discovering that Prince can be anything he wants to musically, other artist mentioned, I feel they don't stretch themselves like Prince does. And thats fine, thats what makes them great. Prince might not be the best singer like Stevie Wonder or Michael Jackson, but Prince does everything that all of his peers does well, and in the 80's he was IN THE ZONE. I think also even if you don't like his recent output, I'm still thankful that Prince is still alive and recording! Peace cool
At this point in history, we have a choice to make
To either, walk the path of love, or be crippled by our hate
-Stevie Wonder
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Reply #152 posted 07/29/09 5:00am

iloveannie

As one music professor stated many few years ago, the Spice Girls musically were more harmonious and melodic than Oasis. But we are talking about art here which often (rightly or wrongly) ignores the conventions of standards.
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Reply #153 posted 07/29/09 5:50am

TyphoonTip

iloveannie said:

As one music professor stated many few years ago, the Spice Girls musically were more harmonious and melodic than Oasis. But we are talking about art here which often (rightly or wrongly) ignores the conventions of standards.


Art is also completely subjective. Making this thread, and all the other 'best of all time' threads, a complete waste of time.

So my guess for the motivation of these threads? Ego. Some people clearly want to be seen to be the fan of the 'BEST....'.

"Look at me! Not only do I listen to great music, I listen to the BEST music. Written by the most talented person EVER. I can prove it by this elaborate criteria I've made up. It does away with all this subjective arty bullshit. Seriously, how good am I?! How amazing is my taste!?"


So perhaps every post that goes to PROVE that Prince/MJ/Whoever is undoubtedly the most talented person to ever take a shit, is nothing more than a personal vindication how flawless their taste in music is.

All hail those with the god given ability to quantify art. worship

...They are the BEST!!!
[Edited 7/29/09 5:51am]
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Reply #154 posted 07/29/09 5:51am

iloveannie

minneapolisFunq said:

lol

im sorry but john mayer is not on P's level when it comes to playing the guitar

the minneapolis sound cant be beat!


Don't agree with that, but then again I love SRV and Mayer apes him so well smile
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Reply #155 posted 07/29/09 6:09am

Graycap23

When it's all said and done.....Prince is in a league of 1.
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Reply #156 posted 07/29/09 8:12am

mozfonky

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TyphoonTip said:

iloveannie said:

As one music professor stated many few years ago, the Spice Girls musically were more harmonious and melodic than Oasis. But we are talking about art here which often (rightly or wrongly) ignores the conventions of standards.


Art is also completely subjective. Making this thread, and all the other 'best of all time' threads, a complete waste of time.

So my guess for the motivation of these threads? Ego. Some people clearly want to be seen to be the fan of the 'BEST....'.

"Look at me! Not only do I listen to great music, I listen to the BEST music. Written by the most talented person EVER. I can prove it by this elaborate criteria I've made up. It does away with all this subjective arty bullshit. Seriously, how good am I?! How amazing is my taste!?"


So perhaps every post that goes to PROVE that Prince/MJ/Whoever is undoubtedly the most talented person to ever take a shit, is nothing more than a personal vindication how flawless their taste in music is.

All hail those with the god given ability to quantify art. worship

...They are the BEST!!!
[Edited 7/29/09 5:51am]


That's somewhat my take. There are just too many great contributers to music to listen to any one artist. Lots of talent, don't believe, go on youtube, look up Nat King Cole and see him demolish a piano and sing pitch perfect with no effort, or watch even an old cab calloway outdance just about anyone else. Too many great ones, and the oldsters didn't have half the attitudes these jerks today do.
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Reply #157 posted 07/29/09 8:49am

sgmusic

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Me

I sing dance play guitar drums bass keyboard etc write and produce music and I'm extremely good looking.
"If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?"
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Reply #158 posted 07/29/09 4:52pm

buttcheeks

Prince is Party Man

The Funkiest Man You Ever Seen,

When It Comes 2 Funk, He Is The Junkie

His Name Is Prince, The One And Only

This Is The Groove~ wink
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Reply #159 posted 07/29/09 4:53pm

jdcxc

mozfonky said:[quote]

TyphoonTip said:



Art is also completely subjective. Making this thread, and all the other 'best of all time' threads, a complete waste of time.

So my guess for the motivation of these threads? Ego. Some people clearly want to be seen to be the fan of the 'BEST....'.

"Look at me! Not only do I listen to great music, I listen to the BEST music. Written by the most talented person EVER. I can prove it by this elaborate criteria I've made up. It does away with all this subjective arty bullshit. Seriously, how good am I?! How amazing is my taste!?"


So perhaps every post that goes to PROVE that Prince/MJ/Whoever is undoubtedly the most talented person to ever take a shit, is nothing more than a personal vindication how flawless their taste in music is.

All hail those with the god given ability to quantify art. worship

...They are the BEST!!!
[Edited 7/29/09 5:51am]



Oh please. It's getting deep in here. It's just an ole fashioned debate that can be found at your local tavern, barbershop or cafe. Rock and Roll journalism has created a whole sub-genre debating musical relevance. You never seen jazz artists trying to smoke the competition? Everything is about ego.
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Reply #160 posted 07/30/09 12:43am

iloveannie

jdcxc said:[quote]

mozfonky said:

TyphoonTip said:



Art is also completely subjective. Making this thread, and all the other 'best of all time' threads, a complete waste of time.

So my guess for the motivation of these threads? Ego. Some people clearly want to be seen to be the fan of the 'BEST....'.

"Look at me! Not only do I listen to great music, I listen to the BEST music. Written by the most talented person EVER. I can prove it by this elaborate criteria I've made up. It does away with all this subjective arty bullshit. Seriously, how good am I?! How amazing is my taste!?"


So perhaps every post that goes to PROVE that Prince/MJ/Whoever is undoubtedly the most talented person to ever take a shit, is nothing more than a personal vindication how flawless their taste in music is.

All hail those with the god given ability to quantify art. worship

...They are the BEST!!!
[Edited 7/29/09 5:51am]



Oh please. It's getting deep in here. It's just an ole fashioned debate that can be found at your local tavern, barbershop or cafe. Rock and Roll journalism has created a whole sub-genre debating musical relevance. You never seen jazz artists trying to smoke the competition? Everything is about ego.


But at least they have dedicated themselves to learning something as opposed to dedicating themselves to hunting down bootlegs and buying cds over the counter.

If you want the debate on who can outdo Prince then let's pick a style/era/genre. 60s pop for instance. Sorry but Prince is shit at that. Metal? Umm, once again Prince flounders. How about folk? Not exactly John Martyn is he? Guitar face off between Larry Carlton and Prince? Why bother as we're talking different levels of comprehension and ability.

There are lots of people who can beat Prince at anything (Russel Brand as the celebrity swordsman for instance), it just all comes down to what you like. Most people like Prince's Raspberry Berets and Doves Crying but can't stand his other stuff. As some of my colleagues put it when I'm playing Prince at work, "Man, you listen to some shit." Admittedly it's been times when I've put on Rainbow Children or Emancipation.

My mate Jacko adores Paul Weller (bar the Style Council years) and loves his punk (Clash and so on) so there's no way he's gonna enjoy Prince and the whole Minneapolis funk thing. It's horses for courses.

Personally I think the likes of Andrew Lloyd Webber and Howard Shore are musically superior to Prince. But I know who I listen to more often.
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Reply #161 posted 07/30/09 1:24am

TyphoonTip

iloveannie said:

jdcxc said:




Oh please. It's getting deep in here. It's just an ole fashioned debate that can be found at your local tavern, barbershop or cafe. Rock and Roll journalism has created a whole sub-genre debating musical relevance. You never seen jazz artists trying to smoke the competition? Everything is about ego.


But at least they have dedicated themselves to learning something as opposed to dedicating themselves to hunting down bootlegs and buying cds over the counter.

If you want the debate on who can outdo Prince then let's pick a style/era/genre. 60s pop for instance. Sorry but Prince is shit at that. Metal? Umm, once again Prince flounders. How about folk? Not exactly John Martyn is he? Guitar face off between Larry Carlton and Prince? Why bother as we're talking different levels of comprehension and ability.

There are lots of people who can beat Prince at anything (Russel Brand as the celebrity swordsman for instance), it just all comes down to what you like. Most people like Prince's Raspberry Berets and Doves Crying but can't stand his other stuff. As some of my colleagues put it when I'm playing Prince at work, "Man, you listen to some shit." Admittedly it's been times when I've put on Rainbow Children or Emancipation.

My mate Jacko adores Paul Weller (bar the Style Council years) and loves his punk (Clash and so on) so there's no way he's gonna enjoy Prince and the whole Minneapolis funk thing. It's horses for courses.

Personally I think the likes of Andrew Lloyd Webber and Howard Shore are musically superior to Prince. But I know who I listen to more often.


How dare you bring common sense into the debate. wink cool
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Reply #162 posted 07/30/09 1:48am

NoID

Have you ever heard of Milli Vanilli?
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Reply #163 posted 07/30/09 3:16am

iloveannie

TyphoonTip said:

How dare you bring common sense into the debate. wink cool


The greatest shame in life is that common sense isn't at all common.
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