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To All The Haters- "Who Can F With P?" We all expect superhuman, genius, and revolutionary things from our Royal Purple Badness. But let me ask anyone- What other musical artists over the last 60 years of the Rock Era have been in the same creative league as Prince?
Criteria: Influence/Impact, Longevity of Creativity, Complexity/Diversity of Sounds, Multi-Dimensional Talents (Songwriting, Production, Performance, Musicianship, etc), Intangibles. In my opinion the following do not fit the bill: Springsteen, U2, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan. Arguments anyone? | |
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Who in the HELL ever tried to pit Bob Dylan against Prince?  Old boy that sings that mess about the "jingle jangle morning" now that's a side-splittingly funny.
Well, if he was still alive, I'd say Michael...and well hell, that's about it. I love a Man who:
Wears More Make Up Than Me. Wears Four Inch Stilleto Boots. Changes His Name To An Unpronouncable Symbol. Who Changes His Name Back From An Unpronouncable Symbol. Oh And Most Importantly, Who Is Sexy Little Drop Of Butterscotch | |
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STEVIE WONDER - No argument necessary! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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 If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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squirrelgrease said: I've met that guy, in 1990. | |
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ernestsewell said: squirrelgrease said: I've met that guy, in 1990. You weren't littering were you? If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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jdcxc said: We all expect superhuman, genius, and revolutionary things from our Royal Purple Badness. But let me ask anyone- What other musical artists over the last 60 years of the Rock Era have been in the same creative league as Prince?
Criteria: Influence/Impact, Longevity of Creativity, Complexity/Diversity of Sounds, Multi-Dimensional Talents (Songwriting, Production, Performance, Musicianship, etc), Intangibles. In my opinion the following do not fit the bill: Springsteen, U2, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan. Arguments anyone? Seems like you've got your mind made up already. So sad. Maybe you should open your mind to other music a little and stop being so defensive about your precious Prince. | |
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squirrelgrease said: You weren't littering were you?
 NEVER! haha Actually I was the stage manager for a theatre group in Hollywood. We were doing two one-act plays each night (Thurs-Saturday), and the first of the two was called "Father, Save Your Skin". It was a play about Minnesota Native Americans. The director, my friend Jane, knew Iron Eyes Cody somehow. We went to pick him up one night for the show. He sang an Indian song, and did some prayer and spoke for a minute before the show. It was nice. Although I'm from Oklahoma, which is full of Indian history (Oklahoma means Red man), and we have the five civilized tribes, I was just never much into Indian history. I can still name the tribes through. Choctaw, Seminole, Chickasaw, Cherokee, and Creek.[Edited 7/22/09 13:56pm] | |
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TwiliteKid said: jdcxc said: We all expect superhuman, genius, and revolutionary things from our Royal Purple Badness. But let me ask anyone- What other musical artists over the last 60 years of the Rock Era have been in the same creative league as Prince?
Criteria: Influence/Impact, Longevity of Creativity, Complexity/Diversity of Sounds, Multi-Dimensional Talents (Songwriting, Production, Performance, Musicianship, etc), Intangibles. In my opinion the following do not fit the bill: Springsteen, U2, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan. Arguments anyone? Seems like you've got your mind made up already. So sad. Maybe you should open your mind to other music a little and stop being so defensive about your precious Prince.  | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: STEVIE WONDER - No argument necessary! Prince turns him out 3121 times over. The answer is no one. This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: STEVIE WONDER - No argument necessary!
D muthafuggin ITTO!!! also, what is meant by diversity of sounds? are we talking diversity of instruments, musical arrangements, vocals? I mean I pretty much know a Prince song or Prince inspired song when I hear one. He's diverse but not diverse enough to where no one can compare to him musically. | |
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WetDream said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: STEVIE WONDER - No argument necessary!
Prince turns him out 3121 times over. The answer is no one.  In your wet dreams perhaps but certainly not in reality!I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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jdcxc said: We all expect superhuman, genius, and revolutionary things from our Royal Purple Badness. But let me ask anyone- What other musical artists over the last 60 years of the Rock Era have been in the same creative league as Prince?
Criteria: Influence/Impact, Longevity of Creativity, Complexity/Diversity of Sounds, Multi-Dimensional Talents (Songwriting, Production, Performance, Musicianship, etc), Intangibles. In my opinion the following do not fit the bill: Springsteen, U2, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan. Arguments anyone? Listen, there is no one like Prince. No one. However, you seem to be looking for a competition or an argument. I think it is simply impossible to argue who is "best" when it comes to art/music. It is not sports. Stats don't mean anything in this game. Essentially, your argument is that Prince is the best flavor ice cream out there. It is an easy claim to make, because there is no one else to compare him to. What you have to realize, is that not everyone likes Prince's flavor as much as you do. Sure, there is a different Prince for everyone, but if somebody LOVES acoustic guitar music, they only have a handful of Prince tracks to pick from. Therefore, they might gravitate towards someone who only plays acoustic guitar music 100% of the time. Does this make Prince less than? No it simply suits the acoustic guitar lovers music needs a little bit better.... [Edited 7/22/09 14:18pm] "New Power slide...." |
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Stevie Wonder? No not really, imo.
He was great in the 1970s, but how many great albums has Stevie made since the Hotter Than July masterpiece in - was it 1981...?? His last one wasn't good, A Time To Love, only the single he sang with Prince on Guitar was okay, Conversation Peace in 1995 was okay too, but otherwise Stevie hasn't made great albums since... 1981. He's amazing live: I saw him last year here in Denmark, excellent performance 
But no one beats Prince.. Imo.  Prince 4Ever.  | |
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thedance said: Stevie Wonder? No not really, imo.
He was great in the 1970s, but how many great albums has Stevie made since the Hotter Than July masterpiece in - was it 1981...?? His last one wasn't good, A Time To Love, only the single he sang with Prince on Guitar was okay, Conversation Peace in 1995 was okay too, but otherwise Stevie hasn't made great albums since... 1981. He's amazing live: I saw him last year here in Denmark, excellent performance
But no one beats Prince.. Imo. People say the same thing about Prince with Chaos and Disorder, Crystal Ball, Planet Earth etc. They say Prince reached his peak with SOTT or Emanicpation. It's all relative really. And can we not call people who don't eat Princey's doo doo haters?  | |
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skywalker said: jdcxc said: We all expect superhuman, genius, and revolutionary things from our Royal Purple Badness. But let me ask anyone- What other musical artists over the last 60 years of the Rock Era have been in the same creative league as Prince?
Criteria: Influence/Impact, Longevity of Creativity, Complexity/Diversity of Sounds, Multi-Dimensional Talents (Songwriting, Production, Performance, Musicianship, etc), Intangibles. In my opinion the following do not fit the bill: Springsteen, U2, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan. Arguments anyone? Listen, there is no one like Prince. No one. However, you seem to be looking for a competition or an argument. I think it is simply impossible to argue who is "best" when it comes to art/music. It is not sports. Stats don't mean anything in this game. Essentially, your argument is that Prince is the best flavor ice cream out there. It is an easy claim to make, because there is no one else to compare him to. What you have to realize, is that not everyone likes Prince's flavor as much as you do. Sure, there is a different Prince for everyone, but if somebody LOVES acoustic guitar music, they only have a handful of Prince tracks to pick from. Therefore, they might gravitate towards someone who only plays acoustic guitar music 100% of the time. Does this make Prince less than? No it simply suits the acoustic guitar lovers music needs a little bit better.... [Edited 7/22/09 14:18pm] Look, I understand art criticism and objectivity. But haven't you had a good old-fashioned Rock and Roll debate? You must hate the greatest of all-time lists. | |
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Prince is different but not the best. He is unique but not the original. He has fans but so do other artists. He has had a long standing career but so have many other artists.
Prince versus (fill in the blank) is an empty battle because there really isn't a loser or a winner. Never was. | |
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Jimi Hendrix - Prince has in no way shape or form revolutionized an instrument the way Jimi did it (just in that 1967-1970 period). Prince is not and never will be the iconic figure that Jimi is/was. Prince will never make an album more Artistic and groundbreaking than "Are You Experienced?".
Stevie Wonder- Never in Prince's career has he had a more creative run than Stevie's 1970's output. No, the 80's were not as good as Stevie's run. To non Prince fans...Purple Rain is all that Prince has done. Artistically he has never dominated the industry the way Stevie did in the 70's. I'm sorry, but Prince is not the best ever or in the past 50 years. He had a great run...but his run is over. So judging by the 80's - 90's...he is not or never will be the cultural/artistic icon that Jim and Stevie are. Ask anybody that knows music...they may tell you the same. | |
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Of course you can rate or rank artists, their influence or impact they have on you and the music scene in general.
and to me Prince is the best of his generation...
before him: The Beatles and Pink Floyd  [Edited 7/22/09 14:46pm] Prince 4Ever. | |
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Yeah, I started the "Is Prince the Best of All Time?" thread... 
The answer is simple really...NO ONE can F with P...not only in the last 60 years, but, EVER...No offense, but did someone really mention MJ in THIS discussion??? What I want to discuss is WHY it is that Prince isn't given his due???...the man has done it all on a very high level for a very long time...his musicianship is top notch, his songwriting clever and thought-provoking, his singing is stellar, his dancing was spectacular, his style is immpeccable....yet, here we are, on a site dedicated to the man, and EVEN WE cannot give him his due....What do you expect the rest of the world to do??? Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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Bishop31 said: Jimi Hendrix - Prince has in no way shape or form revolutionized an instrument the way Jimi did it (just in that 1967-1970 period). Prince is not and never will be the iconic figure that Jimi is/was. Prince will never make an album more Artistic and groundbreaking than "Are You Experienced?".
Stevie Wonder- Never in Prince's career has he had a more creative run than Stevie's 1970's output. No, the 80's were not as good as Stevie's run. To non Prince fans...Purple Rain is all that Prince has done. Artistically he has never dominated the industry the way Stevie did in the 70's. I'm sorry, but Prince is not the best ever or in the past 50 years. He had a great run...but his run is over. So judging by the 80's - 90's...he is not or never will be the cultural/artistic icon that Jim and Stevie are. Ask anybody that knows music...they may tell you the same. Anyone that knows music knows where Prince stands...you are of the mind that Prince isn't as good as Jimi nor Stevie, and, I, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, cannot understand your thought process. We will agree to disagree...but I'll tell you one thing....Jimi or Stevie ain't got a quarter of the FUNKNASTINESS that Prince does (and you can't measure that, because I just made it up) Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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Revolution said: Yeah, I started the "Is Prince the Best of All Time?" thread...
The answer is simple really...NO ONE can F with P...not only in the last 60 years, but, EVER...No offense, but did someone really mention MJ in THIS discussion??? What I want to discuss is WHY it is that Prince isn't given his due???...the man has done it all on a very high level for a very long time...his musicianship is top notch, his songwriting clever and thought-provoking, his singing is stellar, his dancing was spectacular, his style is immpeccable....yet, here we are, on a site dedicated to the man, and EVEN WE cannot give him his due....What do you expect the rest of the world to do??? Prince the best...ever?? Are you serious? C'mon. Do you honestly believe that Prince is a better Musician than Beethoven or Mozart? Funky..yes. Talented..yes. But, the best ever..No Let's not even get into the performing part. But, since you mentioned MJ...I will. I saw both perform. Prince was cool...but I was ready to leave an hour into it. Let's just say that if I wanted a James Brown review concert I would have saw the Godfather himself. I saw MJ in 1987...words cannot express the brilliance I witnessed. Singing and dancing were flawless. Prince is about Musicianship...nothing else. It takes more to be looked at as the Greatest Ever. Dancing - Let's put it out there. Prince is NOT or never was a great "Dancer". Sure, he did cute moves & splits..and acrobatic stuff like that. But, MJ is on another planet when it comes to "Dancing". Ask any street kid who can dance..and Prince won't even get mentioned. But, I bet MJ will.
Singing - Prince has a good Falsetto. Is he a pure singer like MJ or Stevie Wonder?? Not in your wildest dreams. MJ would have sung Prince under the table...when he was 14! Prince could not hold 1 candle to Stevie when it somes to singing. Like I said...good Falsetto...that's it.
Musicianship - What can Prince do on Guitar that Jimi wasn't doing back in 1967? Don't worry...I'll wait. On Piano...what can Prince do that Herbie Hanckock wasn't doing with Miles Davis & still doing now???
I just named 3 categories for you: Dancing, Singing, Musicianship. Prince is not the best in any of these categories. Can you tell me one category that he IS the best in?? Don't worry....I'll wait. [Edited 7/22/09 15:08pm] | |
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Seriously this thread should be a game.
Prince vs. (fill in blank_____) | |
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squirrelgrease said:
ernestsewell said: I've met that guy, in 1990.
squirrelgrease said: You weren't littering were you?
*wets self* [Edited 7/22/09 15:09pm] | |
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Revolution said: Yeah, I started the "Is Prince the Best of All Time?" thread...
The answer is simple really...NO ONE can F with P...not only in the last 60 years, but, EVER...No offense, but did someone really mention MJ in THIS discussion??? What I want to discuss is WHY it is that Prince isn't given his due???...the man has done it all on a very high level for a very long time...his musicianship is top notch, his songwriting clever and thought-provoking, his singing is stellar, his dancing was spectacular, his style is immpeccable....yet, here we are, on a site dedicated to the man, and EVEN WE cannot give him his due....What do you expect the rest of the world to do??? No one said Prince is not great in his own right! That would be ridiculous because we can all agree that he is! The questions we were asked to answer were: Who Can F with P? and What other musical artists over the last 60 years of the Rock Era have been in the same creative league as Prince?
Based on this... Criteria: Influence/Impact, Longevity of Creativity, Complexity/Diversity of Sounds, Multi-Dimensional Talents (Songwriting, Production, Performance, Musicianship, etc), Intangibles.
FACTUALLY, not based on my OPINION and with no disrespect towards Prince or his accomplishments, my answer IS Stevie Wonder!! Now if this was just a feeble attempt to get some Prince ass kissing going and not a serious discussion, then I withdraw my responses and y'all can have at it! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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to Bishop: you really like MJ better than Prince..?!  
hillarious pic: posted by Squirrelgrease!!!!! Prince 4Ever. | |
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thedance said: to Bishop: you really like MJ better than Prince..?!
hillarious pic: posted by Squirrelgrease!!!!!
C'mon, bro. It's not about who I like better. I'm just trying to be reasonable. Prince does somethings better than MJ. MJ did somethings better than Prince. I don't think it's possible to call anybody "The Greatest". Because that would mean they are perfect...and nobody has reached perfection. [Edited 7/22/09 15:14pm] | |
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Bishop31 said: Revolution said: Yeah, I started the "Is Prince the Best of All Time?" thread...
The answer is simple really...NO ONE can F with P...not only in the last 60 years, but, EVER...No offense, but did someone really mention MJ in THIS discussion??? What I want to discuss is WHY it is that Prince isn't given his due???...the man has done it all on a very high level for a very long time...his musicianship is top notch, his songwriting clever and thought-provoking, his singing is stellar, his dancing was spectacular, his style is immpeccable....yet, here we are, on a site dedicated to the man, and EVEN WE cannot give him his due....What do you expect the rest of the world to do??? Prince the best...ever?? Are you serious? C'mon. Do you honestly believe that Prince is a better Musician than Beethoven or Mozart? Funky..yes. Talented..yes. But, the best ever..No Let's not even get into the performing part. But, since you mentioned MJ...I will. I saw both perform. Prince was cool...but I was ready to leave an hour into it. Let's just say that if I wanted a James Brown review concert I would have saw the Godfather himself. I saw MJ in 1987...words cannot express the brilliance I witnessed. Singing and dancing were flawless. Prince is about Musicianship...nothing else. It takes more to be looked at as the Greatest Ever. Dancing - Let's put it out there. Prince is NOT or never was a great "Dancer". Sure, he did cute moves & splits..and acrobatic stuff like that. But, MJ is on another planet when it comes to "Dancing". Ask any street kid who can dance..and Prince won't even get mentioned. But, I bet MJ will.
Singing - Prince has a good Falsetto. Is he a pure singer like MJ or Stevie Wonder?? Not in your wildest dreams. MJ would have sung Prince under the table...when he was 14! Prince could not hold 1 candle to Stevie when it somes to singing. Like I said...good Falsetto...that's it.
Musicianship - What can Prince do on Guitar that Jimi wasn't doing back in 1967? Don't worry...I'll wait. On Piano...what can Prince do that Herbie Hanckock wasn't doing with Miles Davis & still doing now???
I just named 3 categories for you: Dancing, Singing, Musicianship. Prince is not the best in any of these categories. Can you tell me one category that he IS the best in?? Don't worry....I'll wait.
[Edited 7/22/09 15:08pm] I can't win your argument...dude, I'm not saying that Prince is the best IN ANY ONE CATEGORY...I'm his biggest fan and will admit that. What I'm talking about is the entire entertainment package. NO ONE puts it together like Prince...and no one will, ever. He's probably made a deal with the devil....(hooves??) However, let's rephrase YOUR questions to take those people out of their element: Could Jimi or Stevie DANCE like Prince. Could MJ play guitar or piano as well? Sit James Brown at a piano and peeps will go home. Total Package...nuff said. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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WetDream said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: STEVIE WONDER - No argument necessary!
Prince turns him out 3121 times over. The answer is no one. Hahahahahahahahaha Come on man that's ridiculous. | |
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Revolution said: Bishop31 said: Prince the best...ever?? Are you serious? C'mon. Do you honestly believe that Prince is a better Musician than Beethoven or Mozart? Funky..yes. Talented..yes. But, the best ever..No Let's not even get into the performing part. But, since you mentioned MJ...I will. I saw both perform. Prince was cool...but I was ready to leave an hour into it. Let's just say that if I wanted a James Brown review concert I would have saw the Godfather himself. I saw MJ in 1987...words cannot express the brilliance I witnessed. Singing and dancing were flawless. Prince is about Musicianship...nothing else. It takes more to be looked at as the Greatest Ever. Dancing - Let's put it out there. Prince is NOT or never was a great "Dancer". Sure, he did cute moves & splits..and acrobatic stuff like that. But, MJ is on another planet when it comes to "Dancing". Ask any street kid who can dance..and Prince won't even get mentioned. But, I bet MJ will.
Singing - Prince has a good Falsetto. Is he a pure singer like MJ or Stevie Wonder?? Not in your wildest dreams. MJ would have sung Prince under the table...when he was 14! Prince could not hold 1 candle to Stevie when it somes to singing. Like I said...good Falsetto...that's it.
Musicianship - What can Prince do on Guitar that Jimi wasn't doing back in 1967? Don't worry...I'll wait. On Piano...what can Prince do that Herbie Hanckock wasn't doing with Miles Davis & still doing now???
I just named 3 categories for you: Dancing, Singing, Musicianship. Prince is not the best in any of these categories. Can you tell me one category that he IS the best in?? Don't worry....I'll wait.
[Edited 7/22/09 15:08pm] I can't win your argument...dude, I'm not saying that Prince is the best IN ANY ONE CATEGORY...I'm his biggest fan and will admit that. What I'm talking about is the entire entertainment package. NO ONE puts it together like Prince...and no one will, ever. He's probably made a deal with the devil....(hooves??) However, let's rephrase YOUR questions to take those people out of their element: Could Jimi or Stevie DANCE like Prince. Could MJ play guitar or piano as well? Sit James Brown at a piano and peeps will go home. Total Package...nuff said. We could go in circles with that one. I think it's safe to say that everybody has there element. | |
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