gubbins4ever said:

so when we angrily storm prince's house, i'm guessing it would be a faux pas for us to buy our torches and pitchforks at target's home gardening center, huh?

Anxiety said:

Genesia said:

well i am!

Anxiety said:

Point taken, but this is Prince. Im sure he could find a record company that would offer up a deal he can live with. Hes just so stubborn and weird about the whole record deal thing now. That goes all the way back to the 100million dollar deal with WB. He knew what he was signing when he read the contract.. then suddenly he has a problem with it? He had been in the business since 78 and all of a sudden he wants out of a contract he JUST signed!... Get off your highhorse Prince...negotiate a good contract and get your music out to the masses like you used to!

ronnwinter said:

i'd much rather he establish his own independent label if he does anything.

Sounds to me like you're just some Union hack who is upset that everyone doesn't have to belong to corrupt Unions. Fortunately, there are States that have 'Right to Work' laws, meaning you don't have to let someone else take YOUR pay to line their own thieving pockets.

lspear76 said:

Apparently ive missed something..I didnt know Target was giving him 2million bucks. And for an $11.99 sale price? Theyll have to sale about 170,000 copies just to break even.(not counting any costs of advertising and marketing for the album) But my main point was the fact that a record label would most likely push his album so it would make money. I dont really see Target going all out for this album. But hey I could be wrong..

Serena said:

I like you.

CarrieMpls said:

Good info, thanks Carrie!

gubbins4ever said:

Dammit!! Who left the asylum door open again, all the kookoos are out today!

xlr8r said:

Seriously? Ok, well that certainly clarifies the situation to me, as in dude needs to be ignored.

Anxiety said:

Yeah, so I'm not sure where we're supposed to get them then? Because I'm sure Home Depot, Lowes, etc., are all off-limits too. Guess it'll just have to be sticks and flints!

This thread is waaaaay too far fetched!! One day Prince will have enough of this scrutinizing everytime he tries some thing and tell everyone to go fuck himself!

12 dollars for a 3 CD ain't a "supercapitalistbadMoFo" price dammit!!
[Edited 3/4/09 13:48pm]

Interesting but sorry, you didn't make a convincing statement.

xlr8r said:

The dude is bonkers.

Genesia said:

michelle obama loves target....so what does that tell you.

Dare I say it but apart from the slave labour - who gives a shit?

ALL major corporations a dodgy to some extent.

gubbins4ever said:

I have a few questions for Trickology....

1) Do you own the computer you are online with? If so, where did you buy it from and what kind of business practices do the store/place you bought it from have?

2) What kind of computer is it? Can you guarantee that no slave labor was used in making the computer or any of it's components? Was the Computer and ALL of it's components made with union labor?

3) What about the server we are using right now? Same questions.

4) What about the online service you are using? Same questions.


How far do you want to go with this? If you dig deep enough, pretty much any business or product is going to have the same problems.

So IMHO unless Target has separate bathrooms for blacks and whites, or breaks labor laws, or pays workers less than minimum wage, etc....something blatant like that, I think $11.99 for 3 CD's is a great deal and a wise decision on Prince's part.

4bjb said:

Am I supposed to be impressed by that?

in today's economy most retailers are doing what they have to do to stay afloat.
where I work, field managers are not getting bonuses. pay raises are limited across the board to 2%.
Unions are not the answer to every problem. Unions have raised the cost of production and driven most factories out of this country.

BlackAdder7 said:

Where I work at a medical device company, we have over 250 employees, ship out over $90 Million a year, have no Union yet no one here makes less that $12 an hour, we have Medical Insurance, Dental Insurance, Life Insurance, and they match .50 cents to every $1 we put into our 401K.

Plus we are still getting bonuses and raises up to 6%.

Sowhat said:

You're a slave.

I can see valid points, but at some point are these artists responsible for saving the whole world?

Touring is irresponsible because of the massive amounts of gasoline & energy involved to blast music to 10,000 people. Cd's themselves are just more plastic in the world. Guitars & instruments themselves are made with products that pollute, or are made in countries with questionable labor practices.

I noticed watching An Inconvenient Truth that Al Gore was constantly in a car or on a plane. But he was spreading a message. So what's the trade off.

Is creating a thread about slave practices of Target with a plastic computer made in god knows where using electricity without negative impacts on the world?

We can nit-pick forever, but Prince probably supported Target as a Twin Cities company, and as an alternative to Wal-Mart. That's something, maybe not on the level of Mother Theresa, but it's just a cd. Can we all seriously avoid supporting EVERYTHING that has a negative imapct on the world & its inhabitants?
[Edited 3/4/09 15:17pm]

I agree with npggirl77

Sowhat said:

Betcha he doesn't answer your questions. It'll probably be something like 'oh that's not critical thinking, so I won't answer'!

I just realized: this nut created this long-assed drawn out post to a 3-cd set going for 12 bucks.

Had to find SOMETHING wrong lol.

And as I read the news, I wondered, who would be the first to start bitching for whatever reasons.

ronnwinter said:

Major labels now are only interested in "pushing" teen pop, emo rock and commercialized dumbed-down hip-hop and Prince, like most veteran artists these days realizes that. That's why most of them are seeking alternate means to distribute and promote their releases via these "exclusive deals" etc.

Gone are the days when veteran artists like Aretha Franklin. Smokey Robinson and Don Henley could get massive airplay and chart success along with young new acts the way it was in the eighties.

redflag said:

Dear Mr. Man, when will we be paid?

GMAN

redflag said:

Yea...I guess u do have a point.