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Reply #270 posted 10/31/07 1:34pm

katt

catwoman555 said:

katt said:


Tv/radio stations are obliged by law to seek out the true copyright holder also Tv/ radio channels etc pay for a music license to play music so even if that scenario happened the artist would still get paid.



It's not a bad example because you give the correct answer
the woman may not use prince music because he is the owner of the used music.
She may use the video if she remove the music first.
that's means no sound or a dubbed version.

thanx

She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.
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Reply #271 posted 10/31/07 1:48pm

Ollieyd

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

So...Prince himself is scouring the internet looking for stuff that violates his copyright. Then I guess it stands to reason that he peruses this site as well. In that case...

Mr. Nelson, I have a few things that I need to say to you!

I think you are being a selfish twit! I understand and condone the need to protect your work from people that are profiting off of it such as bootleggers. However, this blanket removal of everything from the internet that has even the smallest connection to you is RIDICULOUS!

You are not just protecting your rights. You are burying your legacy! The very reason that you are now in a position to even be concerned about your rights is because of people like myself (your fans) who have supported you throughout the years!

Had it not been for the efforts of your fans sharing their love for the music that you make and your talent amongst themselves and with others who were put off by your attitude, appearance or other bad business practices, you would not have lasted as long as you have. You'd have fallen by waste side like so many other very talented musical artists who did not have such a diverse and dynamic fan base to support them during the hard times!

I sincerely hope that you read this post and take from it, it's intent. To make you realize that we aren't trying to hurt you, we just want to have some fun! Let us have our fun! You're the one that put that in us or are you so far gone that you can't remember that? confused

I've been a fan of yours for 29 years, through the good, the bad and the what hell was he thinking and now I feel like it's all been for nothing because you are showing me that you couldn't care less about your fans. I don't like feeling this way and I sincerely hope you fix this mess before you have nothing but a handful of fans left.

Respectfully, Your Fan (for now anyway)


Mrs. Danielle Dillard
Berkley, MI


BLah BLAH bLah BLAh!!!!


Hi Danielle,

Good call, girl! I agree wholeheartedly with what you are trying to say.....saw him 7 times this summer in London.....shows and aftershows combined.....I'm just a bit concerned that he'll end up overalientating himself, which would be heartbreaking to us long timers....22 years, and admirer...man and boy.....

Oliver,
Bournemouth, England
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Reply #272 posted 10/31/07 2:05pm

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Reply #273 posted 10/31/07 2:06pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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catwoman555 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


what kind of mindsnatched dronebot crap is this? lol This woman posted something that happened in her home. Her baby danced to music. It could have been any music, it just happened to be Prince. Does Prince have the right to control every aspect of a person's life just so long as his music is a part of it? Any reasonable person would say no. This case is ridiculous and I can't believe people side with prince on it, although considering the kinds of folks that populated the NPGMC I really shouldn't be surprised at all....



you mean "bad example" or really "kind of mindsnatched dronebot crap is this'

in the firtst case it is discussable...
in the last case are you the only one who is trying to dominate other people's intellectuel way of thinking. just by using unneccery words just to put people into a bad corner. think of this..

Are you going to cop out because your eyeballs cannot handle the full scope of the English language? falloff Typical and pathetic.
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Reply #274 posted 10/31/07 2:09pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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katt said:

catwoman555 said:




It's not a bad example because you give the correct answer
the woman may not use prince music because he is the owner of the used music.
She may use the video if she remove the music first.
that's means no sound or a dubbed version.

thanx

She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.

I stuck with Prince during the first round of lawsuits. It was hard for me to accept he was doing that to fans but I largely ignored it. Now you cannot even live your regular life without Prince butting in telling you he doesn't approve of how you use his music in it? Give me a break. I am not willing to hand over my $$$ to this stupid ass any longer because of this crap and I've been a fan for 28 years. I'd rather hear a crap ass copy of PE than to give hime any more money so he can persecute mothers who's only crime as in being excited enough to post a video of their BABY dancing to his music.

thank god my musical life is filled with so many other artists that really help me not to miss Prince at all.....
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Reply #275 posted 10/31/07 2:11pm

katt

catwoman555 said:

Besides

Prince only want to give permission..
He don't ask for money

that change the hoax

If this was the case explain this away then.

My wallpapers have vanished of websites when websites received the DMCA infringement notices. I seeked permission of Prince’s employee’s (mod's) at the npgmc to post my wallpapers in the Prince community and permission was granted (I still have proof of this), I was told not once had I ever disrespected prince’s image if anything I had promoted his image in a clean, clear and respectful way. I requested permsission as I thought this was the right thing to do. Personally I don’t give a damn about them being taken down as I stopped posting the wallpapers when the club closed yet i had permission to post them if this was all about asking permission (showing respect) something I did when I requested permission my wallpapers would still be up online wouldnt you agree.
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Reply #276 posted 10/31/07 2:13pm

catwoman555

katt said:

catwoman555 said:




It's not a bad example because you give the correct answer
the woman may not use prince music because he is the owner of the used music.
She may use the video if she remove the music first.
that's means no sound or a dubbed version.

thanx

She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.


from my believe, everybody may take footage from home i mean homevideo's
dancing people on music "whoever"
but is it really neccesary to go worldwide public on the internet?
leave it home and show family the video or mail it to them. then you keep it private.

If you rent a video/movie, you may not put it on youtube so the whole familie all over the world and the rest of the public can see it to.

if i rent a movie. and make a home movie with me and the movie on the background.in a way that the whole world can see the movie too

you say it is innocent? just a home movie.
with no respect to the law or the creators of the movie?

in your believe i can go to the movies. take the cam with me. make a footage
of me with the movie on the background. Go public on youtube. still its a homemovie? just i paid the entrance already i have the rights to go public?
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Reply #277 posted 10/31/07 2:18pm

katt

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

katt said:


She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.

I stuck with Prince during the first round of lawsuits. It was hard for me to accept he was doing that to fans but I largely ignored it. Now you cannot even live your regular life without Prince butting in telling you he doesn't approve of how you use his music in it? Give me a break. I am not willing to hand over my $$$ to this stupid ass any longer because of this crap and I've been a fan for 28 years. I'd rather hear a crap ass copy of PE than to give hime any more money so he can persecute mothers who's only crime as in being excited enough to post a video of their BABY dancing to his music.

thank god my musical life is filled with so many other artists that really help me not to miss Prince at all.....

I know how you feel many feel the same way hug
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Reply #278 posted 10/31/07 2:19pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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catwoman555 said:

katt said:


She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.


from my believe, everybody may take footage from home i mean homevideo's
dancing people on music "whoever"
but is it really neccesary to go worldwide public on the internet?
leave it home and show family the video or mail it to them. then you keep it private.

If you rent a video/movie, you may not put it on youtube so the whole familie all over the world and the rest of the public can see it to.

if i rent a movie. and make a home movie with me and the movie on the background.in a way that the whole world can see the movie too

you say it is innocent? just a home movie.
with no respect to the law or the creators of the movie?

in your believe i can go to the movies. take the cam with me. make a footage
of me with the movie on the background. Go public on youtube. still its a homemovie? just i paid the entrance already i have the rights to go public?



Why NOT go public? It's called a public hosting site. That is how many of us host and share our videos. It's called technology and we are using it the way it is intended. Prince shouldn't have the right to control your waking actions when it comes to just listening to his music and being afraid to even have it playing in the background of a video you might be making. TWISTED..

The instances you are making are clearly money making ventures. In this case no movie was rented and she was only sharing with her family her baby dancing. Is she now responsible if other people on the public site view her video? How does that make her infringing on Prince's intellectual property?
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Reply #279 posted 10/31/07 2:27pm

catwoman555

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

catwoman555 said:




you mean "bad example" or really "kind of mindsnatched dronebot crap is this'

in the firtst case it is discussable...
in the last case are you the only one who is trying to dominate other people's intellectuel way of thinking. just by using unneccery words just to put people into a bad corner. think of this..

Are you going to cop out because your eyeballs cannot handle the full scope of the English language? falloff Typical and pathetic.


if some american people can not have respect for people abroad without any eductation or a poor eduction. start to call him names or whatever.

how does that looks to the rest of the world. and how will they have respect of the people abroad. Maybe a classical fact of "world domination desire".

don't forget where you truly come from. you could be my neighbour. and maybe i am laughing of your poor language.
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Reply #280 posted 10/31/07 2:31pm

katt

catwoman555 said:

katt said:


She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.


from my believe, everybody may take footage from home i mean homevideo's
dancing people on music "whoever"
but is it really neccesary to go worldwide public on the internet?
leave it home and show family the video or mail it to them. then you keep it private.

If you rent a video/movie, you may not put it on youtube so the whole familie all over the world and the rest of the public can see it to.

if i rent a movie. and make a home movie with me and the movie on the background.in a way that the whole world can see the movie too

you say it is innocent? just a home movie.
with no respect to the law or the creators of the movie?

in your believe i can go to the movies. take the cam with me. make a footage
of me with the movie on the background. Go public on youtube. still its a homemovie? just i paid the entrance already i have the rights to go public?

The scenario you’re talking about would be done on private property what your talking about is illegal to do
The dancing child was done in a home environment that does not follow under the same rule of law.
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Reply #281 posted 10/31/07 2:41pm

catwoman555

katt said:

catwoman555 said:



from my believe, everybody may take footage from home i mean homevideo's
dancing people on music "whoever"
but is it really neccesary to go worldwide public on the internet?
leave it home and show family the video or mail it to them. then you keep it private.

If you rent a video/movie, you may not put it on youtube so the whole familie all over the world and the rest of the public can see it to.

if i rent a movie. and make a home movie with me and the movie on the background.in a way that the whole world can see the movie too

you say it is innocent? just a home movie.
with no respect to the law or the creators of the movie?

in your believe i can go to the movies. take the cam with me. make a footage
of me with the movie on the background. Go public on youtube. still its a homemovie? just i paid the entrance already i have the rights to go public?

The scenario you’re talking about would be done on private property what your talking about is illegal to do
The dancing child was done in a home environment that does not follow under the same rule of law.


you're right about the last case, but what with the second case?

"if i rent a movie. and make a home movie with me and the movie on the background.in a way that the whole world can see the movie too"

this is a same example as the childvideo case with princemusic. also a home environment

judge this please...
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Reply #282 posted 10/31/07 2:53pm

katt

catwoman555 said:

katt said:


The scenario you’re talking about would be done on private property what your talking about is illegal to do
The dancing child was done in a home environment that does not follow under the same rule of law.


you're right about the last case, but what with the second case?

"if i rent a movie. and make a home movie with me and the movie on the background.in a way that the whole world can see the movie too"

this is a same example as the childvideo case with princemusic. also a home environment

judge this please...

It all depends if it was done through innocence or deliberately done. In the case of the dancing child video the music was barley audible in the footage the children where running around playing with toys in the kitchen the focus was on the children playing with the toys then the child dancing, the video was not about prince’s music the video is about children playing.

.
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Reply #283 posted 10/31/07 3:00pm

catwoman555

katt said:[quote]

catwoman555 said:


It all depends if it was done through innocence or deliberately done. In the case of the dancing child video the music was barley audible in the footage the children where running around playing with toys in the kitchen the focus was on the children playing with the toys then the child dancing, the video was not about prince’s music the video is about children playing.

I have answered your questions so answer mines please.

My wallpapers have vanished of websites when websites received the DMCA infringement notices. I seeked permission of Prince’s employee’s (mod's) at the npgmc to post my wallpapers in the Prince community and permission was granted (I still have proof of this), I was told not once had I ever disrespected prince’s image if anything I had promoted his image in a clean, clear and respectful way. I requested permsission as I thought this was the right thing to do. Personally I don’t give a damn about them being taken down as I stopped posting the wallpapers when the club closed yet i had permission to post them if this was all about asking permission (showing respect) something I did when I requested permission my wallpapers would still be up online wouldnt you agree.


answer to my case.. i agreed, it is about children and not music. but it is a public site. But remember. it was not prince who took down the video.

answer to you wallpaper case.
Yes your right. they may be up line. but i can imagen that..if the npcm club closed. all the rights have be withdrawn automaticallly.

have you ever re-requested a permission? with the arguments you mentioned?

pls answer new questions

regards
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Reply #284 posted 10/31/07 3:14pm

SexyBeautifulO
ne

Ollieyd said:

ifiwereadolphin said:



BLah BLAH bLah BLAh!!!!


Hi Danielle,

Good call, girl! I agree wholeheartedly with what you are trying to say.....saw him 7 times this summer in London.....shows and aftershows combined.....I'm just a bit concerned that he'll end up overalientating himself, which would be heartbreaking to us long timers....22 years, and admirer...man and boy.....

Oliver,
Bournemouth, England


Thanks for taking the time to write this, Oliver! I appreciate your kindness! cool
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Reply #285 posted 10/31/07 3:14pm

wonder505

katt said:

catwoman555 said:




It's not a bad example because you give the correct answer
the woman may not use prince music because he is the owner of the used music.
She may use the video if she remove the music first.
that's means no sound or a dubbed version.

thanx

She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.


I have to agree with this. I must admit asking this woman to take down the video was overkill, it backfired because she's fighting back and the whole situation is getting embarrassing for him. It's all over the Internet and the news and this lady ain't stopping. She's definately riding off the "I am the Mom who is going to shut Prince down" mode. In the latest update it even appears Web Sheriff is trying to back away saying his company had nothing to do with it. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be seeing Prince himself in the media for awhile, and I have a feeling he is going to avoid interviews all together. neutral
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Reply #286 posted 10/31/07 3:34pm

katt

catwoman555 said:

katt said:



answer to my case.. i agreed, it is about children and not music. but it is a public site. But remember. it was not prince who took down the video.

answer to you wallpaper case.
Yes your right. they may be up line. but i can imagen that..if the npcm club closed. all the rights have be withdrawn automaticallly.

have you ever re-requested a permission? with the arguments you mentioned?

pls answer new questions

regards

Permission is given by the likes of youtube for its members to post the onus is on youtube not on it’s members as long as they follow the rules/guidelines on youtube. Youtube are the ones that allow the footage to be uploaded with not viewing it first. In this case Youtube have reposted the baby footage no doubt after seeking legal guidance and receiving contact from the mother’s lawyers. Youtube would not have reposted the footage if they thought they could be prosecuted, it would not be in youtube best interests to break the law so they must deam the footage to be fine.

As for my wallpapers I was told I would be contacted if they had a problem, so far this has not happened. I also told them if they had any problem i would personaly take them down myself, this very much pleased the person and I was told thank you. In all honesty i do not care about them being online but it would have been nice for someone to contact me and tell me, telling me in a way that showed kidness and respect the exact same way that i showed respect.

Back 2 this case (baby dancing video footage). As I stated above youtube would not have reposted the footage if they thought for one moment they would be breaking the law, youtube lawyers would make sure of that.
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Reply #287 posted 10/31/07 5:20pm

YooHoo

I got this shit e-mailed to me.
I love Prince and his ass, but damn! Can't a fan show some love and have fun?
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Reply #288 posted 10/31/07 5:24pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

catwoman555 said:




It's not a bad example because you give the correct answer
the woman may not use prince music because he is the owner of the used music.
She may use the video if she remove the music first.
that's means no sound or a dubbed version.

thanx

what kind of mindsnatched dronebot crap is this? lol This woman posted something that happened in her home. Her baby danced to music. It could have been any music, it just happened to be Prince. Does Prince have the right to control every aspect of a person's life just so long as his music is a part of it? Any reasonable person would say no. This case is ridiculous and I can't believe people side with prince on it, although considering the kinds of folks that populated the NPGMC I really shouldn't be surprised at all....



Some of the people that post here are just f**kin' idiots, that's all. These nutjobs would side with Prince if he said he was gonna kill the baby. When all of this b.s. pontification is done, she will win the lawsuit because this is a fair use issue and not a copyright issue. Prince done f**ked up this time. This was too insignificant to threaten someone over and Prince will soon learn the error of threatening individuals. I swear if he could, I bet he would control who listens to his music.
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Reply #289 posted 10/31/07 11:28pm

Snap

little f'er ain't changed a bit
gotten worse, in fact
damn richual abuse
eso si que es
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Reply #290 posted 10/31/07 11:47pm

Flowerz

wonder505 said:

katt said:


She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.


I have to agree with this. I must admit asking this woman to take down the video was overkill, it backfired because she's fighting back and the whole situation is getting embarrassing for him. It's all over the Internet and the news and this lady ain't stopping. She's definately riding off the "I am the Mom who is going to shut Prince down" mode. In the latest update it even appears Web Sheriff is trying to back away saying his company had nothing to do with it. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be seeing Prince himself in the media for awhile, and I have a feeling he is going to avoid interviews all together. neutral
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nod it's out of control
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Reply #291 posted 11/01/07 2:25am

Ottensen

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

katt said:


She didn’t deliberately use prince’s music for the video footage, the footage shows young children running around and playing with toys in a kitchen then the baby dances to the song.
So by your mind your saying we can not play the music we legally purchased in our own home if we have a video camera out that first we have to seek permission of the whatever artist we are playing first before picking a video camera up.

Next thing you will be saying that it will be ok for an artist to prosecute say a newlywed couple holding a gathering to show video footage of there wedding the artist takes a dislike to people listening because the people invited to the viewing didnt purchase his/her’s music so then decides to prosecute. rolleyes

How laughable no court would allow anyone to have that much control on someone life, you should check the laws, consumers have rights 2 not just artist.

If artists do not like the likes of youtube/google go after those companies’s and get the legislation set in and force them to pay for a license also the industry and prince by all means go after the bootleggers and those that harm his image but this footage has nothing to do with harming Prince if anything seeing kids having fun enjoying good music would make parents purchase more music.

This case will only do much harm 2 the record industry and Prince win or lose people will not forget and will vote with there money in how they feel.

I stuck with Prince during the first round of lawsuits. It was hard for me to accept he was doing that to fans but I largely ignored it. Now you cannot even live your regular life without Prince butting in telling you he doesn't approve of how you use his music in it? Give me a break. I am not willing to hand over my $$$ to this stupid ass any longer because of this crap and I've been a fan for 28 years. I'd rather hear a crap ass copy of PE than to give hime any more money so he can persecute mothers who's only crime as in being excited enough to post a video of their BABY dancing to his music.

thank god my musical life is filled with so many other artists that really help me not to miss Prince at all.....





highfive thumbs up! highfive

That post right there is a shining example of why you're my boo... wink



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Reply #292 posted 11/01/07 4:54am

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Ottensen said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I stuck with Prince during the first round of lawsuits. It was hard for me to accept he was doing that to fans but I largely ignored it. Now you cannot even live your regular life without Prince butting in telling you he doesn't approve of how you use his music in it? Give me a break. I am not willing to hand over my $$$ to this stupid ass any longer because of this crap and I've been a fan for 28 years. I'd rather hear a crap ass copy of PE than to give hime any more money so he can persecute mothers who's only crime as in being excited enough to post a video of their BABY dancing to his music.

thank god my musical life is filled with so many other artists that really help me not to miss Prince at all.....





highfive thumbs up! highfive

That post right there is a shining example of why you're my boo... wink



lol


yes great post
fuck prince i'm out!
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Reply #293 posted 11/01/07 5:39am

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Prince is a really strong person.

People have been saying things about him for years. People have said things like he is gay or weird or not a not a very nice person in real life. He just basicly ignores it most of the time.chatterbox He doesn't let it affect him.blahblah Good on you Prince. cloud9 clapping
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open your eyes to the real world please. Stop supporting every action the man makes. Any reasonable person with half a braincell can surely see that he is bang out of order in this particular case. IT'S A BABY DANCING FFS.
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Reply #294 posted 11/01/07 7:38am

ficktyt

What a joke, Prince is going too far with this. He should concentrate on other things that a baby dancing to a clip of his music!

Heck, I just received several emails this week to buy the entire series of London concerts digitally mastered and pressed on CD's (including the aftershows), but he is too worried about a toddler dancing to a short clip of Let's go Crazy to find that.
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Reply #295 posted 11/01/07 9:11am

fcukthepolice

ficktyt said:

What a joke, Prince is going too far with this. He should concentrate on other things that a baby dancing to a clip of his music!

Heck, I just received several emails this week to buy the entire series of London concerts digitally mastered and pressed on CD's (including the aftershows), but he is too worried about a toddler dancing to a short clip of Let's go Crazy to find that.



how much? what's the sound like? biggrin

I think i'm going to start selling illegal copies of prince's work!

Obviously i'm not really but GOOD LUCK to anyone who is.

Prince has made enough money of us
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Reply #296 posted 11/01/07 11:31am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Ottensen said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I stuck with Prince during the first round of lawsuits. It was hard for me to accept he was doing that to fans but I largely ignored it. Now you cannot even live your regular life without Prince butting in telling you he doesn't approve of how you use his music in it? Give me a break. I am not willing to hand over my $$$ to this stupid ass any longer because of this crap and I've been a fan for 28 years. I'd rather hear a crap ass copy of PE than to give hime any more money so he can persecute mothers who's only crime as in being excited enough to post a video of their BABY dancing to his music.

thank god my musical life is filled with so many other artists that really help me not to miss Prince at all.....





highfive thumbs up! highfive

That post right there is a shining example of why you're my boo... wink



lol



Sista Ottie! touched You know them words make me glow lol

hug
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Reply #297 posted 11/01/07 11:46am

Jeffiner

I don't think Prince is being vindictive or unkind, I think he is just trying to protect his music and legacy. I totally understand why he doesn't want people downloading 'Prince, Let's Go Crazy' and seeing a toddler dancing to it. Before you start 'hating' on me, I love children, I'm a nursery teacher and have a 4 year old son. I think my son looks as cute as mince dancing to Prince (who he loves) but I don't expect everyone else to!

It's like the Phil Collins song, 'In the air tonight' - I love that song, and it brings back lots of memories for me, but when I saw it being used in the 'Chocolate' commercial it really spoilt it for me. Kind of cheapens the music, and my memories!! Also, Elvis Presley Enterprises have always been really strict with the way Elvis' music has been allowed to be used - to protect HIS legacy. Does ANYONE agree with me?!!!?
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Reply #298 posted 11/01/07 1:11pm

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You have got to be kidding me!? Tsk, tsk
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Reply #299 posted 11/01/07 1:22pm

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Jeffiner said:

I don't think Prince is being vindictive or unkind, I think he is just trying to protect his music and legacy. I totally understand why he doesn't want people downloading 'Prince, Let's Go Crazy' and seeing a toddler dancing to it. Before you start 'hating' on me, I love children, I'm a nursery teacher and have a 4 year old son. I think my son looks as cute as mince dancing to Prince (who he loves) but I don't expect everyone else to!

It's like the Phil Collins song, 'In the air tonight' - I love that song, and it brings back lots of memories for me, but when I saw it being used in the 'Chocolate' commercial it really spoilt it for me. Kind of cheapens the music, and my memories!! Also, Elvis Presley Enterprises have always been really strict with the way Elvis' music has been allowed to be used - to protect HIS legacy. Does ANYONE agree with me?!!!?

First of all, she didn't make a commercial. Prince has no right to tell someone what setting they must be in or the circumstances surrounding the playing of his music. Just because her video was available for viewing by anyone in the world, does not mean she solicited it to the entire world. How many of us use public hosting sites? They serve a purpose and make it easier to manage and share personal video files. I hope Prince gets smacked the hell down on this.
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