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Reply #240 posted 06/12/07 3:14pm

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EmancipationLover said:

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Ok how about putting Parade and Emancipation side by side then see


Emancipation wins by a mile!!!



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Reply #241 posted 06/12/07 3:14pm

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superspaceboy said:

EmancipationLover said:



Emancipation wins by a mile!!!


Hardly.


Hey, everyone's free to their own opinion. If folks can get into scatting then i guess there are folks who can prefer emancipation over parade.


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Reply #242 posted 06/12/07 3:14pm

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eek

did i click on the "COLUMBUMA NO CONFIRM PLANET BIZARRO!" thread by mistake???


No, you just clicked on the "silly guy is trying to defend a great pop album over some lame-ass artsy-fartsy effort" thread. wink


okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... confuse
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Reply #243 posted 06/12/07 3:15pm

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No, you just clicked on the "silly guy is trying to defend a great pop album over some lame-ass artsy-fartsy effort" thread. wink


okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... confuse


oh, i remember. we can't expect EVERY prince album to have the greatness of "mr. Happy" or "courtin' time"! that's not fair to prince, i don't care HOW genius he is! nod
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Reply #244 posted 06/12/07 3:20pm

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Anxiety said:

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No, you just clicked on the "silly guy is trying to defend a great pop album over some lame-ass artsy-fartsy effort" thread. wink


okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... confuse


My point is: "Kiss", "Girls and Boys" and "Sometimes..." are great. "Anotherlover..." is decent. Most of the rest (not all, but most) is quite forgettable imo. Not as playful as ATWIAD, not the mastership of SOTT yet. Just the famous 2 cents...
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Reply #245 posted 06/12/07 3:22pm

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okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... confuse


oh, i remember. we can't expect EVERY prince album to have the greatness of "mr. Happy" or "courtin' time"! that's not fair to prince, i don't care HOW genius he is! nod


I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. biggrin
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Reply #246 posted 06/12/07 3:25pm

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Anxiety said:



oh, i remember. we can't expect EVERY prince album to have the greatness of "mr. Happy" or "courtin' time"! that's not fair to prince, i don't care HOW genius he is! nod


I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. biggrin



i, um....i like your avatar? boxed
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Reply #247 posted 06/12/07 3:27pm

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Anxiety said:

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I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. biggrin



i, um....i like your avatar? boxed


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(Emancipation era btw!)
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Reply #248 posted 06/12/07 3:34pm

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Anxiety said:




i, um....i like your avatar? boxed


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(Emancipation era btw!)


im starting to appreciate Emancipation more than ever before. but to say its alot better than Parade..... shake

there alot of strong songs on Emancipation (Joint 2 Joint, The Holy River, Sex In The Summer) but there are alot of songs that make u go disbelief

all of Parade is strong nod
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Reply #249 posted 06/12/07 3:38pm

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InsatiableCream said:

EmancipationLover said:



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(Emancipation era btw!)


im starting to appreciate Emancipation more than ever before. but to say its alot better than Parade..... shake

there alot of strong songs on Emancipation (Joint 2 Joint, The Holy River, Sex In The Summer) but there are alot of songs that make u go disbelief

all of Parade is strong nod


I respectfully disagree. Parade is around 50-50 for me. Emancipation has about 30 songs I like or even love and about six or so I think of as filler. Result: Emancipation wins percentage-wise as well as in absolute numbers.
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Reply #250 posted 06/12/07 3:40pm

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I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. biggrin


Wha wha WHAT???!!! omfg

nutty what kind of fuckery is this? nutty
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Reply #251 posted 06/12/07 3:41pm

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I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. biggrin


Wha wha WHAT???!!! omfg

nutty what kind of fuckery is this? nutty


it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! nod
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Reply #252 posted 06/12/07 3:42pm

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Anxiety said:

eleven said:



Wha wha WHAT???!!! omfg

nutty what kind of fuckery is this? nutty


it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! nod


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Reply #253 posted 06/12/07 4:04pm

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Anxiety said:

eleven said:



Wha wha WHAT???!!! omfg

nutty what kind of fuckery is this? nutty


it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! nod


I would never say that. I respect Wendy and Lisa a lot and also like some of their solo stuff. I don't blame them for Parade not being as strong as ATWIAD or SOTT.

I just would say that there is a certain tendency on here to overestimate their importance for Prince's music/artistry/career.
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Reply #254 posted 06/12/07 4:13pm

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Anxiety said:



it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! nod


I would never say that. I respect Wendy and Lisa a lot and also like some of their solo stuff. I don't blame them for Parade not being as strong as ATWIAD or SOTT.

I just would say that there is a certain tendency on here to overestimate their importance for Prince's music/artistry/career.


no worries, i wasn't referring to you...someone made a REALLY extreme statement about W&L earlier, i was just goofing on that. redface
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Reply #255 posted 06/12/07 4:17pm

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Anxiety said:

EmancipationLover said:



I would never say that. I respect Wendy and Lisa a lot and also like some of their solo stuff. I don't blame them for Parade not being as strong as ATWIAD or SOTT.

I just would say that there is a certain tendency on here to overestimate their importance for Prince's music/artistry/career.


no worries, i wasn't referring to you...someone made a REALLY extreme statement about W&L earlier, i was just goofing on that. redface


I got that, and I just wanted to clarify that that's surely not something I would subscribe to. wink
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Reply #256 posted 06/12/07 4:22pm

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Anxiety said:



no worries, i wasn't referring to you...someone made a REALLY extreme statement about W&L earlier, i was just goofing on that. redface


I got that, and I just wanted to clarify that that's surely not something I would subscribe to. wink


gotcha.

oh, and i defend 'chaos & disorder' on here till i'm blue in the face, so i know all about weathering an underdog favorite on the org...that said, i still disagree with you! hug
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Reply #257 posted 06/12/07 4:24pm

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EmancipationLover said:

superspaceboy said:



Hardly.


Half a mile then?


Let's just say the one disc of the best material culled from Emancipation is still subpar to Parade.

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Reply #258 posted 06/12/07 4:26pm

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sosgemini said:

superspaceboy said:



Hardly.


Hey, everyone's free to their own opinion. If folks can get into scatting then i guess there are folks who can prefer emancipation over parade.


lol


Emancipation is pretty close to scat! nod Shit does need to be free though.

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Reply #259 posted 06/12/07 4:27pm

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superspaceboy said:

sosgemini said:



Hey, everyone's free to their own opinion. If folks can get into scatting then i guess there are folks who can prefer emancipation over parade.


lol


Emancipation is pretty close to scat! nod Shit does need to be free though.


oh, now..it's not THAT bad. disc 3 is pretty tolerable to me, though nowhere close to parade. if all the best stuff were put on one disc, i would at least be able to say to someone, "i can see how you think emancipation is better than parade, though i can't go there with ya."
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Reply #260 posted 06/12/07 4:28pm

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Anxiety said:

Anxiety said:



okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... confuse


oh, i remember. we can't expect EVERY prince album to have the greatness of "mr. Happy" or "courtin' time"! that's not fair to prince, i don't care HOW genius he is! nod


Don't forget the genius that is We gets up drool

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Reply #261 posted 06/12/07 4:29pm

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BTW...how did this thread devolve into Parade vs Emancipation of PP? confused

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Reply #262 posted 06/12/07 4:31pm

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BTW...how did this thread devolve into Parade vs Emancipation of PP? confused



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Reply #263 posted 06/12/07 4:31pm

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Anxiety said:

eleven said:



Wha wha WHAT???!!! omfg

nutty what kind of fuckery is this? nutty


it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! nod


DAMN BOTH OF THOSE TWO L-L-L-ESBIANS!

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Reply #264 posted 06/12/07 4:35pm

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Anxiety said:

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Emancipation is pretty close to scat! nod Shit does need to be free though.


oh, now..it's not THAT bad. disc 3 is pretty tolerable to me, though nowhere close to parade. if all the best stuff were put on one disc, i would at least be able to say to someone, "i can see how you think emancipation is better than parade, though i can't go there with ya."


This is the point I personally don't get. How does condensing an album into a smaller number of tracks make it better? It's still the same tracks, isn't it? And the CD player has a skip button, and nowadays, you can even burn your personal favourite "best of" of any album.

I personally prefer to have quite a lot of music I can choose from rather than Prince putting 80 % of his stuff into the vault where it collects dust.
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Reply #265 posted 06/12/07 4:36pm

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Anxiety said:

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I got that, and I just wanted to clarify that that's surely not something I would subscribe to. wink


gotcha.

oh, and i defend 'chaos & disorder' on here till i'm blue in the face, so i know all about weathering an underdog favorite on the org...that said, i still disagree with you! hug


I like "Chaos" too! highfive
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Reply #266 posted 06/12/07 4:37pm

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:



oh, now..it's not THAT bad. disc 3 is pretty tolerable to me, though nowhere close to parade. if all the best stuff were put on one disc, i would at least be able to say to someone, "i can see how you think emancipation is better than parade, though i can't go there with ya."


This is the point I personally don't get. How does condensing an album into a smaller number of tracks make it better? It's still the same tracks, isn't it? And the CD player has a skip button, and nowadays, you can even burn your personal favourite "best of" of any album.

I personally prefer to have quite a lot of music I can choose from rather than Prince putting 80 % of his stuff into the vault where it collects dust.


yeah, but why listen to songs you don't like just because prince did 'em? my mp3 player is FULL of all kinds of prince stuff, but the songs that i don't like, i don't include. life's too short!
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Reply #267 posted 06/12/07 4:37pm

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Reply #268 posted 06/12/07 4:38pm

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it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! nod


I would never say that. I respect Wendy and Lisa a lot and also like some of their solo stuff. I don't blame them for Parade not being as strong as ATWIAD or SOTT.

I just would say that there is a certain tendency on here to overestimate their importance for Prince's music/artistry/career.


I think Parade is a bit misunderstood. It's very very solid. It certainly doesn't rock and doesn't have the ooomph the prior two had, but that is it's charm. Like sitting out in a french cafe and having a good coffee or tea and a bisquit. It's subtle. It's also soundtrack-ish. Still it's one of my favorites.

Your comment on W&L is well founded. Some People here think W&L wrote 1/2 of Prince's music and it simply isn't true. They did however, INFLUENCE him in a big way. He liked writing around them and most are pretty certian they had some influence as to where some of the music went. IMO, I think those influences were not the beats or the foreground music, but were the background washes and the slight whimsical touches.

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Reply #269 posted 06/12/07 4:39pm

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Anxiety said:

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Emancipation is pretty close to scat! nod Shit does need to be free though.


oh, now..it's not THAT bad. disc 3 is pretty tolerable to me, though nowhere close to parade. if all the best stuff were put on one disc, i would at least be able to say to someone, "i can see how you think emancipation is better than parade, though i can't go there with ya."


lol it's not that bad, but I think it sprawled too much and I can't and haven't ever enjoyed the whole thing in one sitting.

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