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New topic PrintableEmancipationLover said: clarityman said: Ok how about putting Parade and Emancipation side by side then see Emancipation wins by a mile!!! Only if you're measuring for , crappy covers, and over production. | |
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superspaceboy said: EmancipationLover said: Emancipation wins by a mile!!! Hardly. Hey, everyone's free to their own opinion. If folks can get into scatting then i guess there are folks who can prefer emancipation over parade. Space for sale... | |
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EmancipationLover said: Anxiety said: did i click on the "COLUMBUMA NO CONFIRM PLANET BIZARRO!" thread by mistake??? No, you just clicked on the "silly guy is trying to defend a great pop album over some lame-ass artsy-fartsy effort" thread. okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... | |
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Anxiety said: EmancipationLover said: No, you just clicked on the "silly guy is trying to defend a great pop album over some lame-ass artsy-fartsy effort" thread. okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... oh, i remember. we can't expect EVERY prince album to have the greatness of "mr. Happy" or "courtin' time"! that's not fair to prince, i don't care HOW genius he is! | |
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Anxiety said: EmancipationLover said: No, you just clicked on the "silly guy is trying to defend a great pop album over some lame-ass artsy-fartsy effort" thread. okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... My point is: "Kiss", "Girls and Boys" and "Sometimes..." are great. "Anotherlover..." is decent. Most of the rest (not all, but most) is quite forgettable imo. Not as playful as ATWIAD, not the mastership of SOTT yet. Just the famous 2 cents... | |
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Anxiety said: Anxiety said: okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... oh, i remember. we can't expect EVERY prince album to have the greatness of "mr. Happy" or "courtin' time"! that's not fair to prince, i don't care HOW genius he is! I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. | |
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EmancipationLover said: Anxiety said: oh, i remember. we can't expect EVERY prince album to have the greatness of "mr. Happy" or "courtin' time"! that's not fair to prince, i don't care HOW genius he is! I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. i, um....i like your avatar? | |
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Anxiety said: EmancipationLover said: I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. i, um....i like your avatar? (Emancipation era btw!) | |
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EmancipationLover said: Anxiety said: i, um....i like your avatar? (Emancipation era btw!) im starting to appreciate Emancipation more than ever before. but to say its alot better than Parade..... there alot of strong songs on Emancipation (Joint 2 Joint, The Holy River, Sex In The Summer) but there are alot of songs that make u go all of Parade is strong | |
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InsatiableCream said: EmancipationLover said: (Emancipation era btw!) im starting to appreciate Emancipation more than ever before. but to say its alot better than Parade..... there alot of strong songs on Emancipation (Joint 2 Joint, The Holy River, Sex In The Summer) but there are alot of songs that make u go all of Parade is strong I respectfully disagree. Parade is around 50-50 for me. Emancipation has about 30 songs I like or even love and about six or so I think of as filler. Result: Emancipation wins percentage-wise as well as in absolute numbers. | |
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EmancipationLover said: I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. Wha wha WHAT???!!! what kind of fuckery is this? | |
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eleven said: EmancipationLover said: I actually think that "Courtin' time" is better than quite some stuff on Parade. "Mr. Happy" now, damn, you got me there. Wha wha WHAT???!!! what kind of fuckery is this? it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! | |
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Anxiety said: eleven said: Wha wha WHAT???!!! what kind of fuckery is this? it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! | |
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Anxiety said: eleven said: Wha wha WHAT???!!! what kind of fuckery is this? it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! I would never say that. I respect Wendy and Lisa a lot and also like some of their solo stuff. I don't blame them for Parade not being as strong as ATWIAD or SOTT. I just would say that there is a certain tendency on here to overestimate their importance for Prince's music/artistry/career. | |
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EmancipationLover said: Anxiety said: it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! I would never say that. I respect Wendy and Lisa a lot and also like some of their solo stuff. I don't blame them for Parade not being as strong as ATWIAD or SOTT. I just would say that there is a certain tendency on here to overestimate their importance for Prince's music/artistry/career. no worries, i wasn't referring to you...someone made a REALLY extreme statement about W&L earlier, i was just goofing on that. | |
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Anxiety said: EmancipationLover said: I would never say that. I respect Wendy and Lisa a lot and also like some of their solo stuff. I don't blame them for Parade not being as strong as ATWIAD or SOTT. I just would say that there is a certain tendency on here to overestimate their importance for Prince's music/artistry/career. no worries, i wasn't referring to you...someone made a REALLY extreme statement about W&L earlier, i was just goofing on that. I got that, and I just wanted to clarify that that's surely not something I would subscribe to. | |
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EmancipationLover said: Anxiety said: no worries, i wasn't referring to you...someone made a REALLY extreme statement about W&L earlier, i was just goofing on that. I got that, and I just wanted to clarify that that's surely not something I would subscribe to. gotcha. oh, and i defend 'chaos & disorder' on here till i'm blue in the face, so i know all about weathering an underdog favorite on the org...that said, i still disagree with you! | |
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EmancipationLover said: superspaceboy said: Hardly. Half a mile then? Let's just say the one disc of the best material culled from Emancipation is still subpar to Parade. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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sosgemini said: superspaceboy said: Hardly. Hey, everyone's free to their own opinion. If folks can get into scatting then i guess there are folks who can prefer emancipation over parade. Emancipation is pretty close to scat! Shit does need to be free though. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: sosgemini said: Hey, everyone's free to their own opinion. If folks can get into scatting then i guess there are folks who can prefer emancipation over parade. Emancipation is pretty close to scat! Shit does need to be free though. oh, now..it's not THAT bad. disc 3 is pretty tolerable to me, though nowhere close to parade. if all the best stuff were put on one disc, i would at least be able to say to someone, "i can see how you think emancipation is better than parade, though i can't go there with ya." | |
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Anxiety said: Anxiety said: okay, granted, "kiss" and "mountains" and "sometimes it snows in april" and "girls and boys" and "anotherloverholeinyohead" and even "life can be so nice" are CLEARLY half-hearted throwaway filler, but...uh...wait, i forget what my point was... oh, i remember. we can't expect EVERY prince album to have the greatness of "mr. Happy" or "courtin' time"! that's not fair to prince, i don't care HOW genius he is! Don't forget the genius that is We gets up Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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BTW...how did this thread devolve into Parade vs Emancipation of PP? Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: BTW...how did this thread devolve into Parade vs Emancipation of PP?
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Anxiety said: eleven said: Wha wha WHAT???!!! what kind of fuckery is this? it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! DAMN BOTH OF THOSE TWO L-L-L-ESBIANS! Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Anxiety said: superspaceboy said: Emancipation is pretty close to scat! Shit does need to be free though. oh, now..it's not THAT bad. disc 3 is pretty tolerable to me, though nowhere close to parade. if all the best stuff were put on one disc, i would at least be able to say to someone, "i can see how you think emancipation is better than parade, though i can't go there with ya." This is the point I personally don't get. How does condensing an album into a smaller number of tracks make it better? It's still the same tracks, isn't it? And the CD player has a skip button, and nowadays, you can even burn your personal favourite "best of" of any album. I personally prefer to have quite a lot of music I can choose from rather than Prince putting 80 % of his stuff into the vault where it collects dust. | |
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Anxiety said: EmancipationLover said: I got that, and I just wanted to clarify that that's surely not something I would subscribe to. gotcha. oh, and i defend 'chaos & disorder' on here till i'm blue in the face, so i know all about weathering an underdog favorite on the org...that said, i still disagree with you! I like "Chaos" too! | |
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EmancipationLover said: Anxiety said: oh, now..it's not THAT bad. disc 3 is pretty tolerable to me, though nowhere close to parade. if all the best stuff were put on one disc, i would at least be able to say to someone, "i can see how you think emancipation is better than parade, though i can't go there with ya." This is the point I personally don't get. How does condensing an album into a smaller number of tracks make it better? It's still the same tracks, isn't it? And the CD player has a skip button, and nowadays, you can even burn your personal favourite "best of" of any album. I personally prefer to have quite a lot of music I can choose from rather than Prince putting 80 % of his stuff into the vault where it collects dust. yeah, but why listen to songs you don't like just because prince did 'em? my mp3 player is FULL of all kinds of prince stuff, but the songs that i don't like, i don't include. life's too short! | |
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EmancipationLover said: Anxiety said: it's because those wenday and laysa beetchayz RUINED it!!! I would never say that. I respect Wendy and Lisa a lot and also like some of their solo stuff. I don't blame them for Parade not being as strong as ATWIAD or SOTT. I just would say that there is a certain tendency on here to overestimate their importance for Prince's music/artistry/career. I think Parade is a bit misunderstood. It's very very solid. It certainly doesn't rock and doesn't have the ooomph the prior two had, but that is it's charm. Like sitting out in a french cafe and having a good coffee or tea and a bisquit. It's subtle. It's also soundtrack-ish. Still it's one of my favorites. Your comment on W&L is well founded. Some People here think W&L wrote 1/2 of Prince's music and it simply isn't true. They did however, INFLUENCE him in a big way. He liked writing around them and most are pretty certian they had some influence as to where some of the music went. IMO, I think those influences were not the beats or the foreground music, but were the background washes and the slight whimsical touches. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Anxiety said: superspaceboy said: Emancipation is pretty close to scat! Shit does need to be free though. oh, now..it's not THAT bad. disc 3 is pretty tolerable to me, though nowhere close to parade. if all the best stuff were put on one disc, i would at least be able to say to someone, "i can see how you think emancipation is better than parade, though i can't go there with ya." it's not that bad, but I think it sprawled too much and I can't and haven't ever enjoyed the whole thing in one sitting. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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