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Reply #210 posted 07/22/06 9:47pm

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wonder505 said:

ccollin88 said:


IT DID CHART TO NUMBER 3 ON THE POP CHARTS IDIOT....LOOK IT UP.....


On the "pop" charts, hmmmmm. Don't think so and definately not on billboard current top 50 hits. As much as I love that song, its not a big hit, but see, I don't care about "hits" but it matters to you so I thought I should point out that it's not.

And funny how you call me an idiot when your talking about immigration and Bill Gates when it has nothing to do with the post. lol
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Reply #211 posted 07/22/06 9:54pm

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wonder505 said:



On the "pop" charts, hmmmmm. Don't think so and definately not on billboard current top 50 hits. As much as I love that song, its not a big hit, but see, I don't care about "hits" but it matters to you so I thought I should point out that it's not.

And funny how you call me an idiot when your talking about immigration and Bill Gates when it has nothing to do with the post. lol
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Reply #212 posted 07/22/06 9:55pm

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ccollin88 said:


I hate u,...now there was sucky prince song



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Reply #213 posted 07/24/06 3:10am

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txladykat said:



oh please, yes he did tell us. it was clearly stated that the concert ticket prices included the cd....and, for the record, floor seats at a prince cocert AND the CD for ONLY $75!!! Yea, however anyone wants to word it, HE GAVE the cd's away. Take a look at what other artists were charging for their concerts that summer, and that didn't even include a CD....you need to just talk to hand on that one!

he couldnt charge more because people wouldnt pay more to see him....If you really want to get real about it he need to be on his knees thanking BEYONCE because she validated him on the 2004 grammys by performing with him...Beyonce made it cool for the under 30 crowd to check him out.....what would 2004 been if beyonce wouldnt have let him perform with her for the grammy opening?...nothin




oh hell no!!!!! i would of re-mortgaged my home to see him, and beyonce should still be on her knees, i thought she was an incredible artist still do to a degree, but when i seen the grammys she looked so amatuer compared to him, seriously its you who is blinder than stevie, no offence stevie love you x x x
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Reply #214 posted 07/24/06 4:00am

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Agreed. The American mainstream buying public are lazy idiots. Miles, T. Monk, Nina Simone, and Meshell Ndegeocello haven't sold boat loads of cd's. And you're a little late on the Jam/Lewis hit train. Besides, they were trained in the skill of songwriting during all their karoke drills doing Prince-penned (and performed) "Time" songs in concert.

as an american...we are the smartest country in the world...thats why all the other countries tryin to get here! second jam and lewis still rollin.....I never debated that prince schooled them...student has surpassed teacher which is the true goal of education anyway



seriously now dude your starting to piss me off, your opinions your own, and vice versa, but if you really think america's the smartest country you are surely mistaken!!! your going well below the belt now!!!you've never been on the moon bitch!!!!! mad
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Reply #215 posted 07/24/06 4:03am

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ccollin88 said:

wonder505 said:



What does Bill Gates have to do with the music industry and what does immigration have to do with the buying public when it comes to mainstream music????? OMG, you're pathetic!!!!! HA HA HA HA evillol

And no you didn't answer the question. You were asked what was JJ and TL last hit. You said Luther Vandross' "Shine" which has not even charted in the top 50. lol

i lot sooner than princes last hit the most beautiful...12 years ago...ha,ha,ha




[/b] your really offending people now so get back to your topic or piss off, you trying to be a brain washing tit
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Reply #216 posted 07/24/06 9:52am

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Ok this has gone too far.
U have contradicted urself in almost every post u made.

Japan is actually the smartest if I am not mistaken.
America would probably be in 4th or 5th place.

The only reason they come over here is too make more money. In japan u work and every body make the same amount of money no matter what jobs they have, this insures that noone claims they are better than anybody else.
Either that or they want freedom from Monacrhy, slavery, poverty, etc.

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Reply #217 posted 07/24/06 10:23am

Doozer

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first of all i did answer econstpation's question...second...every foreigner in the world tryin to get to america...



Complete ignorance. So, in the world, we have America, and then "foreigners"? That is a very narrow view of the world. I'm an American and your thoughts on this country's intelligence, views on the rest of the world, and "opinions" of music are all equally embarrassing.
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Reply #218 posted 07/24/06 10:42am

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This collin dude has got to be the biggest jerk on this site. Why are you guys wasting your time arguing with him? He obviously has something against Prince and at the same time obsessed with degrading him. Anyone who said Prince should thank Beyonce for her appearance with him on the grammys needs some serious therapy. She should be thanking Prince.

Collin, there's hope and therapy out there for you. This obsessive jealousy you have for Prince really needs to stop because it's showing real bad. I bet you're burning with envy. You spend so much of your time and energy talking crap about him yet you say you "love him?", eek It's obvious you're jealous. You want something he has so you come to this site and rant and rave about him. Maybe you can only wish you had the success that Prince has achieved. What's the matter, you weren't good enough to play in his band or something? Were you rejected when you auditioned for him? Was one of your friends fired by him?

Whatever it is, I'm sure he's laughing at you because you're going totally bananas over the fame he has achieved and you wish you had it. Get over it and move on for crying out loud.
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Reply #219 posted 07/24/06 10:45am

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khemseraph said:

ccollin88 said:

NAME ME 1 PRINCE UNRELEASED SONG THAT WENT #1? biggrin

thats just silly,how can it hit number 1 if it is not released.but didnt adore hit number 1 on the r&b airplay charts without being released as a single...does that count
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These people who think that there is ANYONE else that is the best have NEVER seen "The Kid" live!!! Name me ONE Jimmy & Terry show that rocked. Then, and only then, can U have such an uninformed opinion. Go Back To School !!!
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Reply #220 posted 07/24/06 10:57am

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This thread is so funny! I keep picturing James Brown's mugshot doing the talking, which somehow makes sense.
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Reply #221 posted 07/24/06 11:09am

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unclenick1871 said:

khemseraph said:


thats just silly,how can it hit number 1 if it is not released.but didnt adore hit number 1 on the r&b airplay charts without being released as a single...does that count
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These people who think that there is ANYONE else that is the best have NEVER seen "The Kid" live!!! Name me ONE Jimmy & Terry show that rocked. Then, and only then, can U have such an uninformed opinion. Go Back To School !!!


Lust my humble opinion: Collin, you seem like a "hits" fan (and thats great) but fans who cant see past PR, Diamonds & pearls, 1999, ect... have not used his other work to see the progression of his career. Go to your independent record store and pick up some CD's you have never heard of. You will find that all the other people you are talking about have allways been behind the "Prince curve". Thanks for your thread but please come back when U have the knowlege to back up that opinion.
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Reply #222 posted 07/24/06 2:00pm

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unclenick1871 said:

khemseraph said:


thats just silly,how can it hit number 1 if it is not released.but didnt adore hit number 1 on the r&b airplay charts without being released as a single...does that count
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These people who think that there is ANYONE else that is the best have NEVER seen "The Kid" live!!! Name me ONE Jimmy & Terry show that rocked. Then, and only then, can U have such an uninformed opinion. Go Back To School !!!

The time with jam & lewis rotinely killed prince when they toured together.....thats a known fact biggrin
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Reply #223 posted 07/24/06 2:03pm

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mariesadour said:

unclenick1871 said:


These people who think that there is ANYONE else that is the best have NEVER seen "The Kid" live!!! Name me ONE Jimmy & Terry show that rocked. Then, and only then, can U have such an uninformed opinion. Go Back To School !!!

The time with jam & lewis rotinely killed prince when they toured together.....thats a known fact biggrin


Well said for post #3, having joined merely a few days ago. My guess is that mariesadour is ccollin88 with a second org account, especially judging by the other two posts you've made.
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Reply #224 posted 07/24/06 2:06pm

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mariesadour said:

unclenick1871 said:


These people who think that there is ANYONE else that is the best have NEVER seen "The Kid" live!!! Name me ONE Jimmy & Terry show that rocked. Then, and only then, can U have such an uninformed opinion. Go Back To School !!!

The time with jam & lewis rotinely killed prince when they toured together.....thats a known fact biggrin


Indeed, that fact is right up there with "The Beatles Come to America," "Dylan Goes Electric," "Miles Goes Electric" in terms of common knowledge.
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Reply #225 posted 07/24/06 2:41pm

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How the heck did such an obvious bait thread get so long?

But to answer the question, neither Prince nor J&L are "the Greatest".
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Reply #226 posted 07/24/06 2:52pm

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Aerogram said:

How the heck did such an obvious bait thread get so long?



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Reply #227 posted 07/24/06 3:07pm

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ccollin88, U remind me so much of the guy that everybody thought was Rick James in disguise....He posted alot of badmouthing threads here in the summer of 2003. I think his username was "theprestigious" which had an avatar of Michael Jordan....PR1NCE is the VERY BEST EVER.END OF DISCUSSION!
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Reply #228 posted 07/24/06 6:05pm

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silverandgold said:[quote]This collin dude has got to be the biggest jerk on this site. Why are you guys wasting your time arguing with him? He obviously has something against Prince and at the same time obsessed with degrading him. Anyone who said Prince should thank Beyonce for her appearance with him on the grammys needs some serious therapy. She should be thanking Prince.

Collin, there's hope and therapy out there for you. This obsessive jealousy you have for Prince really needs to stop because it's showing real bad. I bet you're burning with envy. You spend so much of your time and energy talking crap about him yet you say you "love him?", eek It's obvious you're jealous. You want something he has so you come to this site and rant and rave about him. Maybe you can only wish you had the success that Prince has achieved. What's the matter, you weren't good enough to play in his band or something? Were you rejected when you auditioned for him? Was one of your friends fired by him?

Actually she did. Beyonce had a documentary on Bet and her attitude changed when they asked how did it feel to sing with Prince. excited She was like " I was star struck, U mean I relly get 2 play w/ prince?!"
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Reply #229 posted 07/24/06 6:07pm

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sad collin88

AW did little Princey make u jealous? sad

u ain't funky at all u just a little ol' prude
just a little silly party poop. cool
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Reply #230 posted 07/24/06 7:20pm

TheMatrix

Why diss anyone? If people think he the best of all time,... then maybe he is? It's very possible isn't it?

You might be comparing apples and oranges. Jam and Lewis are great without a doubt.
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Reply #231 posted 07/24/06 7:26pm

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Why diss anyone? If people think he the best of all time,... then maybe he is? It's very possible isn't it?

You might be comparing apples and oranges. Jam and Lewis are great without a doubt.


If you've managed to get through the entire thread you would find it wasn't as much dissing someone because they don't think Prince is great, the person was dissing people for not thinking he wasn't the greatest. You would find we wrote several times that he had a write to his opinion.

The person's not active anyhow. No need to carry this on.
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Reply #232 posted 07/24/06 8:31pm

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ccollin88 said:

Why is it that Prince is considered the greatest when he not even the best in Minneapolis?

Every real musician knows JAM & LEWIS run minneapolis...I was told that if you ask most local musicians who is the musician you would most like to work with and over 86% said JAM & LEWIS NOT PRINCE!
for one,Prince started in 1978 jam and lewis 84 but to date they have 36 more top ten R&b and pop hits than PRINCE and he had a six year head start! and to boot they have released over 200 more songs than PRince meaning they are more prolific

don't you think JAM AND LEWIS should be worshiped more than SHORTY PIPPEN?



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Reply #233 posted 07/24/06 9:34pm

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Doozer said:[quote]

ccollin88 said:


Complete ignorance. So, in the world, we have America, and then "foreigners"? That is a very narrow view of the world. I'm an American and your thoughts on this country's intelligence, views on the rest of the world, and "opinions" of music are all equally embarrassing.
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actually, yes. if you are an american, everyone who is not american is a foreigner. that isn't a derogatory connotation, simply a matter of fact if made from an American's perspective. you seem to be the ignorant one in this matter, and far too sensitive, thus unable to understand the position.


Se7enkisses said:

ccollin88 said:


he couldnt charge more because people wouldnt pay more to see him....If you really want to get real about it he need to be on his knees thanking BEYONCE because she validated him on the 2004 grammys by performing with him...Beyonce made it cool for the under 30 crowd to check him out.....what would 2004 been if beyonce wouldnt have let him perform with her for the grammy opening?...nothin



oh hell no!!!!! i would of re-mortgaged my home to see him, and beyonce should still be on her knees, i thought she was an incredible artist still do to a degree, but when i seen the grammys she looked so amatuer compared to him, seriously its you who is blinder than stevie, no offence stevie love you x x x

and you are too defensive about Prince to understand the dynamic that is being presented. it has nothing to do with whether Prince is a better musical act than Beyonce or if he has more talent, simply that her performing with him validated Prince to an audience ignorant of his abilities. your defense has nothing to do with the argument.
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Reply #234 posted 07/25/06 12:40am

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greatest of all time
cuz ur mine
greatest of all time
the musics alive within me

its the blood in my vein
my pleasure and pain
my loss and my gain
my summer my rain
every thought every deed
my sloth and my speed
ur musics alive within me
alright

born on the wings of a prayer of a symbol
invented with every note you wrote
i am real cuz u made me and save me
to let the music live on

greatest of all time
cuz ur mine
greatest of all time
ur musics alive within me

in my fingers and toes
my lips and my nose
my falling my growing
my blindness my knowing
my losing my saving
ur my every craving
ur musics alive within me
alright

i always dreamed we could rule all the lands
with God as our guidance and God as our plans
for a new generation of power of worship of the music alive within me

greatest of all time
cuz ur mine
greatest of all time
cuz ur musics alive within me

courtship of weddings delight
you and me
alright
in a yin yang embrace
have a look at my face
im the girl inside you
the woman who loves you
the wife who will serve you
and save you from earth
and bring you to heaven where i say its seven
in sync with the one love we share
yes i dare say
the musics alive within me yeah
ur musics alive within me yeah
ur musics alive within me

greatest of all time
cuz ur mine
greatest of all time
cuz ur mine

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Reply #235 posted 07/25/06 2:27am

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Doozer said:




oh hell no!!!!! i would of re-mortgaged my home to see him, and beyonce should still be on her knees, i thought she was an incredible artist still do to a degree, but when i seen the grammys she looked so amatuer compared to him, seriously its you who is blinder than stevie, no offence stevie love you x x x

and you are too defensive about Prince to understand the dynamic that is being presented. it has nothing to do with whether Prince is a better musical act than Beyonce or if he has more talent, simply that her performing with him validated Prince to an audience ignorant of his abilities. your defense has nothing to do with the argument.



I KNOW ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TREAD, BUT IF YOU HAVE READ ALL OF THIS THREAD, COLLIN88 IS DESCRIBING HIMSELF AS JESUS, ANYONE WHO ISN'T AMERICAN IS DUMB!! WHO THE HELL IS HE??? I THINK PRINCE IS THE GREATEST BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION, AND I RESPECT OTHERS WHO SAY HE ISN'T, THIS COLLIN88 IS JUST TRYING TO WIND PEOPLE UP, AND HE'S DOING A BRILLIANT JOB AT THAT!!!!
I'M NOT TAKING HIM ON ANYMORE!!!
AT LEAST I HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR OTHERS ON THIS SITE!!!! mad
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Reply #236 posted 07/25/06 8:18am

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Doozer said:


Complete ignorance. So, in the world, we have America, and then "foreigners"? That is a very narrow view of the world. I'm an American and your thoughts on this country's intelligence, views on the rest of the world, and "opinions" of music are all equally embarrassing.
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actually, yes. if you are an american, everyone who is not american is a foreigner. that isn't a derogatory connotation, simply a matter of fact if made from an American's perspective. you seem to be the ignorant one in this matter, and far too sensitive, thus unable to understand the position.


Actually, no. If I'm an American, then everyone who is not American is from another sovereign nation. "Foreigner" is derogatory and disrespectful in the context in which ccollin88 made his original statement. Scroll back through this ridiculous thread to find him say "every foreigner is trying to get into America." If you can't see that such a statement is not only ignorant but also completely untrue, then we aren't even living on the same planet.

So, now how do feel about telling me that "I'm unable to understand the position" of a statement like "every foreigner is trying to get into America?"
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Reply #237 posted 07/25/06 8:32am

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Doozer said:

dumbass said:






actually, yes. if you are an american, everyone who is not american is a foreigner. that isn't a derogatory connotation, simply a matter of fact if made from an American's perspective. you seem to be the ignorant one in this matter, and far too sensitive, thus unable to understand the position.


Actually, no. If I'm an American, then everyone who is not American is from another sovereign nation. "Foreigner" is derogatory and disrespectful in the context in which ccollin88 made his original statement.

no, foreigner is not derogatory in and of itself. that may be how you take it, and how YOU responded to it, but it is wrong. you made an incorrect blanket statement, that was what I was responding to, which had nothing to do with collins.

he may be an ass, but that does not excuse you from being wrong. your defense is merely semantical. foreigner is completely applicable as a description for someone from a seperate sovereign nation.

Se7enkisses said:

dumbass said:


and you are too defensive about Prince to understand the dynamic that is being presented. it has nothing to do with whether Prince is a better musical act than Beyonce or if he has more talent, simply that her performing with him validated Prince to an audience ignorant of his abilities. your defense has nothing to do with the argument.



I KNOW ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TREAD, BUT IF YOU HAVE READ ALL OF THIS THREAD, COLLIN88 IS DESCRIBING HIMSELF AS JESUS, ANYONE WHO ISN'T AMERICAN IS DUMB!! WHO THE HELL IS HE??? I THINK PRINCE IS THE GREATEST BUT THAT IS JUST MY OPINION, AND I RESPECT OTHERS WHO SAY HE ISN'T, THIS COLLIN88 IS JUST TRYING TO WIND PEOPLE UP, AND HE'S DOING A BRILLIANT JOB AT THAT!!!!
I'M NOT TAKING HIM ON ANYMORE!!!
AT LEAST I HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR OTHERS ON THIS SITE!!!! mad

that is all fine and dandy, but his being an ass does not excuse you from making a poor argument.

in fact, when dealing with an ass, you should strive to make as sound an argument as possible so that as can't use it to detract from his behavior.
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Reply #238 posted 07/25/06 9:25am

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I could not care less for who they are, as I dont know who they are, JAM & LEWIS.
I prefer his music thats why I just joined this site. World Wide Prince is clearly better known than them, hes a better live performer to, hits dont mean an awful lot.
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Reply #239 posted 07/25/06 9:33am

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dumbass said:

Doozer said:



Actually, no. If I'm an American, then everyone who is not American is from another sovereign nation. "Foreigner" is derogatory and disrespectful in the context in which ccollin88 made his original statement.


no, foreigner is not derogatory in and of itself. that may be how you take it, and how YOU responded to it, but it is wrong. you made an incorrect blanket statement, that was what I was responding to, which had nothing to do with collins.


Then you're not paying attention to this thread at all. My comment regarding the use of the term "foreigner" was specifically directed to the context in which ccollin88 used it. You're saying that your comment regarding the term "foreigner" had nothing to do with ccollin88's statement. So what are we arguing about? I don't know what "incorrect blanket statement" I made that you're referring to. But, so that we're clear, here's the "incorrect blanket statements" that ccollin88 made that I'm referring to:

Statement 1:
as an american...we are the smartest country in the world...thats why all the other countries tryin to get here!


Statement 2:
first of all i did answer econstpation's question...second...every foreigner in the world tryin to get to america...and americans are smart...hell we got bill gates and howard shultz


What more of an incorrect blanket statement can you ask for than "As an American...we are the smartest country in the world"?

Probably "Every foreigner in the world tryin' to get to America" would qualify.

That's what I'm arguing about. These kinds of statements are so me-centric that it clearly demonstrates a profound misunderstanding of the world as a whole. I'd love to hear any other interpretations.
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