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Printableccollin88 said: Doozer said: Are you living under a rock? He gave away Musicology in 2004 in nearly every major U.S. city. no he didn't he put it in the ticket purchase price....he just didnt tell yall...to make u feel u getting something free.....man some of yall blinder than stevie wonder i tell ya  oh please, yes he did tell us. it was clearly stated that the concert ticket prices included the cd....and, for the record, floor seats at a prince cocert AND the CD for ONLY $75!!! Yea, however anyone wants to word it, HE GAVE the cd's away. Take a look at what other artists were charging for their concerts that summer, and that didn't even include a CD....you need to just talk to hand on that one! | |
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txladykat said: ccollin88 said: no he didn't he put it in the ticket purchase price....he just didnt tell yall...to make u feel u getting something free.....man some of yall blinder than stevie wonder i tell ya oh please, yes he did tell us. it was clearly stated that the concert ticket prices included the cd....and, for the record, floor seats at a prince cocert AND the CD for ONLY $75!!! Yea, however anyone wants to word it, HE GAVE the cd's away. Take a look at what other artists were charging for their concerts that summer, and that didn't even include a CD....you need to just talk to hand on that one! he couldnt charge more because people wouldnt pay more to see him....If you really want to get real about it he need to be on his knees thanking BEYONCE because she validated him on the 2004 grammys by performing with him...Beyonce made it cool for the under 30 crowd to check him out.....what would 2004 been if beyonce wouldnt have let him perform with her for the grammy opening?...nothin Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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A lot of those songs are pure horsecrap. 'Harajuku Girls' by Gwen Stefani? Seriously? I don't think Prince is gonna lose any sleep right about now.
Sure it seems they have done some good songs from that list, but then again, they weren't THEIR songs. 'Scream' by MJ and JJ is a decent song, but not even close to Michael at his best. Besides, the artists made that song what it is. The song is good because it's Michael and Janet. The charisma, the energy. Only a small part of the song is generated by the producers. And Usher songs? Don't tell me that any modern producer can't just click a few buttons and create those mediocre 'RnB' songs. The whole Confessions album is just bland and unoriginal. | |
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Singingboy said: A lot of those songs are pure horsecrap. 'Harajuku Girls' by Gwen Stefani? Seriously? I don't think Prince is gonna lose any sleep right about now.
Sure it seems they have done some good songs from that list, but then again, they weren't THEIR songs. 'Scream' by MJ and JJ is a decent song, but not even close to Michael at his best. Besides, the artists made that song what it is. The song is good because it's Michael and Janet. The charisma, the energy. Only a small part of the song is generated by the producers. And Usher songs? Don't tell me that any modern producer can't just click a few buttons and create those mediocre 'RnB' songs. The whole Confessions album is just bland and unoriginal. DO you really want me to start naming the horse crap songs Prince has put out? hell there is a whole thread about all the worst prince songs going right now so you dont wanna go there buddy Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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ccollin88 said: txladykat said: oh please, yes he did tell us. it was clearly stated that the concert ticket prices included the cd....and, for the record, floor seats at a prince cocert AND the CD for ONLY $75!!! Yea, however anyone wants to word it, HE GAVE the cd's away. Take a look at what other artists were charging for their concerts that summer, and that didn't even include a CD....you need to just talk to hand on that one! he couldnt charge more because people wouldnt pay more to see him....If you really want to get real about it he need to be on his knees thanking BEYONCE because she validated him on the 2004 grammys by performing with him...Beyonce made it cool for the under 30 crowd to check him out.....what would 2004 been if beyonce wouldnt have let him perform with her for the grammy opening?...nothin Umm the Vegas show that was for $312 a ticket was sold out. If I'm going by your theory how do you explain that? His last two shows that was for $122 sold out in milisecond. how do you explain that? | |
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ccollin88 said: txladykat said: oh please, yes he did tell us. it was clearly stated that the concert ticket prices included the cd....and, for the record, floor seats at a prince cocert AND the CD for ONLY $75!!! Yea, however anyone wants to word it, HE GAVE the cd's away. Take a look at what other artists were charging for their concerts that summer, and that didn't even include a CD....you need to just talk to hand on that one! he couldnt charge more because people wouldnt pay more to see him....If you really want to get real about it he need to be on his knees thanking BEYONCE because she validated him on the 2004 grammys by performing with him...Beyonce made it cool for the under 30 crowd to check him out.....what would 2004 been if beyonce wouldnt have let him perform with her for the grammy opening?...nothin that is your opinion only. Have you spoken to each and every person that attended each and every concert? Did they each tell you they would not have spent more? Yea, i didn't think so....carry on. You are the one that says to speak in facts but not one thing in your post above is factual, it is merely conjencture on your part. And, you stated earlier in your thread that this thread was not about bashing Prince, but about recognizing someone better? Your post directly above clearly shows that your motive strictly is to bash. | |
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wonder505 said: ccollin88 said: he couldnt charge more because people wouldnt pay more to see him....If you really want to get real about it he need to be on his knees thanking BEYONCE because she validated him on the 2004 grammys by performing with him...Beyonce made it cool for the under 30 crowd to check him out.....what would 2004 been if beyonce wouldnt have let him perform with her for the grammy opening?...nothin Umm the Vegas show that was for $312 a ticket was sold out. If I'm going by your theory how do you explain that? His last two shows that was for $122 sold out in milisecond. how do you explain that? whooo hoooo 1000 seat CLUB....man thats star poWER RIGHT THERE BOY! Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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Please every one - do me a favour and ignore this guys posts - hes obviously getting off on this as hes on this site 24/7 trying to start arguments with everyone!!!
DONT REPLY TO THIS TOPIC _ IM BEGGING YOU!!!!!  
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wendyrachel said: Please every one - do me a favour and ignore this guys posts - hes obviously getting off on this as hes on this site 24/7 trying to start arguments with everyone!!!
DONT REPLY TO THIS TOPIC _ IM BEGGING YOU!!!!! just because you cant handle THE heat ....STAY OUT THE KITCHEN! U JUST MAD BECAUSE I THREW THEM JAM AND LEWIS HITS UP THERE AND NOW U FEEL THE BURN!!!!!i LOVE IT! Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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ccollin88 said: Why is it that Prince is considered the greatest when he not even the best in Minneapolis?
Every real musician knows JAM & LEWIS run minneapolis...I was told that if you ask most local musicians who is the musician you would most like to work with and over 86% said JAM & LEWIS NOT PRINCE! for one,Prince started in 1978 jam and lewis 84 but to date they have 36 more top ten R&b and pop hits than PRINCE and he had a six year head start! and to boot they have released over 200 more songs than PRince meaning they are more prolific don't you think JAM AND LEWIS should be worshiped more than SHORTY PIPPEN? 
<----- on the floor right now.
Why didn't you just call this post "Why Is JAM & LEWIS Considered The Greatest Of All Time (IMO)" & put it in the other forum.  [Edited 7/21/06 13:46pm] God doesn't just tells me how much he "LOVE's" me, God shows me how much he "LOVE's" me. Both telling and showing "LOVE" means to "LOVE". They go hand in hand. You can't have one with out the other. Something is spoken, then followed by an action. That is | |
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iceblueangel2007 said: ccollin88 said: Why is it that Prince is considered the greatest when he not even the best in Minneapolis?
Every real musician knows JAM & LEWIS run minneapolis...I was told that if you ask most local musicians who is the musician you would most like to work with and over 86% said JAM & LEWIS NOT PRINCE! for one,Prince started in 1978 jam and lewis 84 but to date they have 36 more top ten R&b and pop hits than PRINCE and he had a six year head start! and to boot they have released over 200 more songs than PRince meaning they are more prolific don't you think JAM AND LEWIS should be worshiped more than SHORTY PIPPEN? HMMM....that's a good idea....I'll do it in my next thread comparing princes career to madonna and why she kick ass all over the country tourin...thanks for the advice
<----- on the floor right now.
Why didn't you just call this post "Why Is JAM & LEWIS Considered The Greatest Of All Time (IMO)" & put it in the other forum.
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ccollin88 said: Giovanni777 said: This has more holes than a golf course. Even your title is deeply flawed. Prince is one of most underrated artists of all time, never getting the respect he should 4 being the truly blessed musical GIANT he is. Forget about fans 4 a moment... Do U know what it's like 2 be a musician, and have 2 deal with other musicians who don't know? ...and "Colin"... U R not merely being critical, U R not making any rational sense whatsoever. Lock this Mugg up. what makes him a GIANT? AS YOU say? please explain.....I think some of you confuse doing something for a long time means you are great....prince been recording for 28 years only about 12 have been legendary years.even quincy jones has said he needs an editor...so you all telling me yall know more about music than quincy jones?....you guys kill me with your arrogance!
SKILLS. What he CAN do, What he HAS done, and HOW he does it. Diverse and original, gifted and skilled. Everything you've said has been baseless, and has been from the get-go. There's a GIGANTIC difference between being critical, and being baseless, wrong, incorrect, misinformed, and ignorant. U need 2 stop smokin' what JB was in your avatar. I'm out. Peace. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Giovanni777 said: ccollin88 said: what makes him a GIANT? AS YOU say? please explain.....I think some of you confuse doing something for a long time means you are great....prince been recording for 28 years only about 12 have been legendary years.even quincy jones has said he needs an editor...so you all telling me yall know more about music than quincy jones?....you guys kill me with your arrogance!
SKILLS. What he CAN do, What he HAS done, and HOW he does it. Diverse and original, gifted and skilled. Everything you've said has been baseless, and has been from the get-go. There's a GIGANTIC difference between being critical, and being baseless, wrong, incorrect, misinformed, and ignorant. U need 2 stop smokin' what JB was in your avatar. I'm out. Peace. I dont smoke,drink,or any of that stuff..I'm pure in heart and mind....How can u say its baseless when i put that looooonnnnnggggg!list of jam and lewis hits up there as proof! [Edited 7/21/06 14:38pm] Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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ccollin88 said: Giovanni777 said: SKILLS. What he CAN do, What he HAS done, and HOW he does it. Diverse and original, gifted and skilled. Everything you've said has been baseless, and has been from the get-go. There's a GIGANTIC difference between being critical, and being baseless, wrong, incorrect, misinformed, and ignorant. U need 2 stop smokin' what JB was in your avatar. I'm out. Peace. I dont smoke,drink,or any of that stuff..I'm pure in heart and mind....How can u say its baseless when i put that looooonnnnnggggg!list of jam and lewis hits up there as proof!
[Edited 7/21/06 14:38pm] J & L website this way _____> 
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ccollin88 said: Giovanni777 said: SKILLS. What he CAN do, What he HAS done, and HOW he does it. Diverse and original, gifted and skilled. Everything you've said has been baseless, and has been from the get-go. There's a GIGANTIC difference between being critical, and being baseless, wrong, incorrect, misinformed, and ignorant. U need 2 stop smokin' what JB was in your avatar. I'm out. Peace. I dont smoke,drink,or any of that stuff..I'm pure in heart and mind....How can u say its baseless when i put that looooonnnnnggggg!list of jam and lewis hits up there as proof!
[Edited 7/21/06 14:38pm] So then go spend time on a Jam and Lewis and Janet Jackson website. | |
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wonder505 said: ccollin88 said: I dont smoke,drink,or any of that stuff..I'm pure in heart and mind....How can u say its baseless when i put that looooonnnnnggggg!list of jam and lewis hits up there as proof!
[Edited 7/21/06 14:38pm] So then go spend time on a Jam and Lewis and Janet Jackson website. OK I'M LEAVING...dont beg me back either! Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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ccollin88 said: wonder505 said: Umm the Vegas show that was for $312 a ticket was sold out. If I'm going by your theory how do you explain that? His last two shows that was for $122 sold out in milisecond. how do you explain that? whooo hoooo 1000 seat CLUB....man thats star poWER RIGHT THERE BOY! The point is that people bought it. | |
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ccollin88 said: 1986: "The Pleasure Principle" - Janet Jackson Monte Moir wrote and produced this track. I love me some Jam & Lewis, but seriously, to think they have ANYTHING on Prince is probably the most laughable statement i've heard all year. Their whole entire sound came FROM Prince. Jam & Lewis would be completely unknown if it wasn't for Prince. All of The Time's albums were awesome when Prince wrote all of 'em. Then came "Pandemonium" in 1990, where Jam & Lewis helped a lot, and their songs weakened the album - the best songs on that album were Prince's, AND they had a number 1 with "Jerk Out" which Prince produced and wrote. Jam & Lewis are kick ass producers. But have they ever wrote something as incredible as "Purple Rain" (the song), "Sign O The Times", "If I Was Your Girlfriend", "When Doves Cry", "Kiss", "Joy In Repetition"....I could go on and on. Simple fact is, they haven't. |
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moderatorccollin88 said: wonder505 said: So then go spend time on a Jam and Lewis and Janet Jackson website. OK I'M LEAVING...dont beg me back either! Here you go, your heroes: www.flytetyme.com and www.janetjackson.com Don't forget the "Delete My Account" button on the way out. | |
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wonder505 said: ccollin88 said: OK I'M LEAVING...dont beg me back either! Don't forget the "Delete My Account" button on the way out.
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txladykat said: wonder505 said: Don't forget the "Delete My Account" button on the way out.
If i deleted my account who on earth would hold yall acountable for the great hoaxes you perpetuate about our fallen hero? Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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ccollin88 said: txladykat said:
If i deleted my account who on earth would hold yall acountable for the great hoaxes you perpetuate about our fallen hero? Are you the same person who tried to educate us that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis has a Star on the Walk of Fame, but Prince doesn't. Yet you didn't answer any of the responses that Britney and Pee Wee Herman has the same Star. Don't worry about us, we're okay. Now run along and scurry behind Jimmy, Terry and Janet. and get a life. Spending time on website on an artist that you no longer support is pathetic. [Edited 7/21/06 15:46pm] | |
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wonder505 said: ccollin88 said: If i deleted my account who on earth would hold yall acountable for the great hoaxes you perpetuate about our fallen hero? Are you the same person who tried to educate us that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis has a Star on the Walk of Fame, but Prince doesn't. Yet you didn't answer any of the responses that Britney and Pee Wee Herman has the same Star. Don't worry about us, we're okay. Now run along and scurry behind Jimmy, Terry and Lewis. and get a life. Spending time on website on an artist that you no longer support is pathetic. I do support Prince..... but i dont take no shit from him either...again...he cannot fart on a record to a beat and get away with it! Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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ccollin88 said: wonder505 said: Are you the same person who tried to educate us that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis has a Star on the Walk of Fame, but Prince doesn't. Yet you didn't answer any of the responses that Britney and Pee Wee Herman has the same Star. Don't worry about us, we're okay. Now run along and scurry behind Jimmy, Terry and Lewis. and get a life. Spending time on website on an artist that you no longer support is pathetic. I do support Prince..... but i dont take no shit from him either...again...he cannot fart on a record to a beat and get away with it! Don't change the story. You no longer support Prince and that's fine. And how are you taking any shit from Prince. Nobody is forcing you to buy his record, or go to his concert, or visit his fansites, By the way, you're still here?. Just in case you forgot: www.flytetyme.com and www.janetjackson.com awaits you. [Edited 7/21/06 15:39pm] | |
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wonder505 said: ccollin88 said: I do support Prince..... but i dont take no shit from him either...again...he cannot fart on a record to a beat and get away with it! Don't change the story. You no longer support Prince and that's fine. And how are you taking any shit from Prince. Nobody is forcing you to buy his record, or go to his concert, or visit his fansites, By the way, you're still here? BYE...I KNOW when i'm not appreciated! Yoda is my Mentor! | |
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ccollin88 said: wonder505 said: Don't change the story. You no longer support Prince and that's fine. And how are you taking any shit from Prince. Nobody is forcing you to buy his record, or go to his concert, or visit his fansites, By the way, you're still here? BYE...I KNOW when i'm not appreciated! You'll be appreciated by your heroes: www.flytetyme.com and www.janetjackson.com | |
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wonder505 said: ccollin88 said: whooo hoooo 1000 seat CLUB....man thats star poWER RIGHT THERE BOY! The point is that people bought it. who cares ? | |
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ccollin88 said: txladykat said: oh please, yes he did tell us. it was clearly stated that the concert ticket prices included the cd....and, for the record, floor seats at a prince cocert AND the CD for ONLY $75!!! Yea, however anyone wants to word it, HE GAVE the cd's away. Take a look at what other artists were charging for their concerts that summer, and that didn't even include a CD....you need to just talk to hand on that one! he couldnt charge more because people wouldnt pay more to see him....If you really want to get real about it he need to be on his knees thanking BEYONCE because she validated him on the 2004 grammys by performing with him...Beyonce made it cool for the under 30 crowd to check him out.....what would 2004 been if beyonce wouldnt have let him perform with her for the grammy opening?...nothin Oh, right. Thank you so much for the reminder on that one. I had forgotten that Beyonce is solely responsible for every success Prince has ever had. I barely noticed it, but I did see her whispering advice into Prince's ear during an instrumental break in Baby I'm A Star... Prince, listen to me. I am your last hope. You are not as good as Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Work in the price of your next CD into the price of admission for your concert, and you'll be okay for a while. I'm begging you... Your comprehensive list of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis hits really put me in my place. When I read they they were behind Jessica Simpson's These Boots Are Made For Walkin' your point really hit home. I mean hell, there's just no arguing with that. Sure looks to me by your list that you should be arguing that Janet Jackson is the greatest musician in the world, because I don't know what JJ and TL would have to show with her removed from the picture. Frankly, I'm surprised that it wasn't Janet who whispered all that good advice into Prince's ear. You can't seem to see that you're comparing apples and oranges. Be careful when you make your dinner tonight so that you don't put sugar on your french fries by mistake. [Edited 7/21/06 16:09pm] Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ |
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wonder505 said: ccollin88 said: If i deleted my account who on earth would hold yall acountable for the great hoaxes you perpetuate about our fallen hero? Are you the same person who tried to educate us that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis has a Star on the Walk of Fame, but Prince doesn't. Yet you didn't answer any of the responses that Britney and Pee Wee Herman has the same Star. Don't worry about us, we're okay. Now run along and scurry behind Jimmy, Terry and Janet. and get a life. Spending time on website on an artist that you no longer support is pathetic. [Edited 7/21/06 15:46pm] who cares ? | |
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ccollin88 said: wonder505 said: Don't change the story. You no longer support Prince and that's fine. And how are you taking any shit from Prince. Nobody is forcing you to buy his record, or go to his concert, or visit his fansites, By the way, you're still here? BYE...I KNOW when i'm not appreciated! I don't think so. Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ |
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