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Thread started 04/12/06 1:52pm

bigsexy

Prince-American A**hole

Sorry if the headline offends you but this whole Prince not doing American Idol
because he doesn't want to talk or inter-act with the kids on the show is
really sad. Don't get me wrong I love Prince and his music but I really think he feels like he's God almighty himself sometimes. Why does he feel like he is above talking to people who admire him. If he would have went on American Idol and was really cool with all the kids,showed his wit,sense of humor and showed 30 million people watching at home that he isn't as weird as most people see him as and then did a killer performance on there, his album sales would have sky rocketed back to #1.

If he didn't want to do the show because he doesn't like the show that would be totally fine but not going on because he might have to talk to the contestants is really sad.
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Reply #1 posted 04/12/06 1:55pm

Graycap23

bigsexy said:

Sorry if the headline offends you but this whole Prince not doing American Idol
because he doesn't want to talk or inter-act with the kids on the show is
really sad. Don't get me wrong I love Prince and his music but I really think he feels like he's God almighty himself sometimes. Why does he feel like he is above talking to people who admire him. If he would have went on American Idol and was really cool with all the kids,showed his wit,sense of humor and showed 30 million people watching at home that he isn't as weird as most people see him as and then did a killer performance on there, his album sales would have sky rocketed back to #1.

If he didn't want to do the show because he doesn't like the show that would be totally fine but not going on because he might have to talk to the contestants is really sad.


Do u believe EVERYTHING u read?
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Reply #2 posted 04/12/06 1:58pm

Susann209

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I just don't think his personality lends itself to do this kind of show. It doesn't make him a jerk at all, it's just not his thing.
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Reply #3 posted 04/12/06 2:00pm

Anx

maybe he doesn't believe in the way they're trying to pursue success. what does a man who built his legend on writing all his own music, playing all his own instruments, and producing all his albums have to say to a bunch of kids who think they can go on a game show and sing a few karaoke songs and have the kind of fame it's taken him years of hard work to achieve?

good for prince, i say.
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Reply #4 posted 04/12/06 2:00pm

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bigsexy said:

Sorry if the headline offends you but this whole Prince not doing American Idol
because he doesn't want to talk or inter-act with the kids on the show is
really sad. Don't get me wrong I love Prince and his music but I really think he feels like he's God almighty himself sometimes. Why does he feel like he is above talking to people who admire him. If he would have went on American Idol and was really cool with all the kids,showed his wit,sense of humor and showed 30 million people watching at home that he isn't as weird as most people see him as and then did a killer performance on there, his album sales would have sky rocketed back to #1.

If he didn't want to do the show because he doesn't like the show that would be totally fine but not going on because he might have to talk to the contestants is really sad.


Yes. I think it would be cool and quite good if he did it. But I just thinks he's so damn shy that he tries to avoid such things as much as possible. It's kinda sad when you think that he's been in the business for 28 years and should have got used to it. But that's one of the things that makes him so intriguing. It's really hard to tell if this avoidence is a good thing or not. So far he's doing alright.
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Reply #5 posted 04/12/06 2:00pm

Browntree007

FUCK "american idol".
[Edited 4/12/06 14:01pm]
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Reply #6 posted 04/12/06 2:01pm

PurpleKnight

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Maybe he doesn't wanna speak to a bunch of fucking morons who sing songs others have written and get an instant record deal as a result that allows them to bombard the US with shit music.

They'd just say the same dumb shit too.

"OMG MR. PRINCE I LOVED PURPLE RAIN!!1"

[Edited 4/12/06 14:06pm]
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #7 posted 04/12/06 2:02pm

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i hope this thread stays up....thats all im saying...

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Reply #8 posted 04/12/06 2:05pm

Graycap23

A professional like Prince has NO business on this corny ass show. That being said, I wish he would do it but it's HIS choice.
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Reply #9 posted 04/12/06 2:06pm

wonder505

bigsexy said:

Sorry if the headline offends you but this whole Prince not doing American Idol
because he doesn't want to talk or inter-act with the kids on the show is
really sad. Don't get me wrong I love Prince and his music but I really think he feels like he's God almighty himself sometimes. Why does he feel like he is above talking to people who admire him. If he would have went on American Idol and was really cool with all the kids,showed his wit,sense of humor and showed 30 million people watching at home that he isn't as weird as most people see him as and then did a killer performance on there, his album sales would have sky rocketed back to #1.

If he didn't want to do the show because he doesn't like the show that would be totally fine but not going on because he might have to talk to the contestants is really sad.



What a fan you are. You choose to damn this man and call him an asshole before you even got a chance to hear his side of the story. rolleyes
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Reply #10 posted 04/12/06 2:07pm

OdysseyMiles

A**hole


It's become habit for people on the Org to use this term when referring to Prince, someone they don't even know personally. Makes no sense.

As far as American Idol, the guy has his reasons for whatever decision he made regarding that glorified talent show. I've heard he was offered to come on the Howard Stern show, but he would only agree to perform and not do an interview. Stern said "screw that".
Why does he do what he does? 'Cause it's his life, I guess.
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Reply #11 posted 04/12/06 2:10pm

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Well with Stern, he did it 'cause Stern would've started off the interview by saying "You've banged a ton of hot chicks. Did you have anal with Carmen?"
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Reply #12 posted 04/12/06 2:11pm

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The sad thing, is that Prince has managed to get the WORST out of both sides of this situation. On the one hand, simply by considering the possibility of doing this show, he has gone down in people's perceptions. On the other hand, by not doing it, he has shown himself (arguably) to be arrogant and egotistical!

The whole situation is a complete paradox. This show and others like it are the reason why pop music is in such a shallow, unimaginative state right now. It's the reason why talents like Prince are being kept out of the limelight. To go on the show would be to go against the vacuous pop he has been railing against in recent years.

And yet a show like this would be the perfect launching pad for Prince to get back to the top where he belongs! No wonder he was tempted.

Thinking about it, on balance, I really wish he'd done the show. I wish he'd sat down with the contestants and shown he isn't wierd and can be very normal and approachable, maybe taught them some basic musicianship that no doubt they lack, much in the same way he tried to teach Beyonce simple scales on the piano. And then put on a kick-ass show where he out-sung them and out-performed them and left the judges forever in his awe.
[Edited 4/12/06 14:16pm]
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Reply #13 posted 04/12/06 2:15pm

wonder505

metalorange said:

The sad thing, is that Prince has managed to get the WORST out of both sides of this situation. On the one hand, simply by considering the possibility of doing this show, he has gone down in people's perceptions. On the other hand, by not doing it, he has shown himself (arguably) to be arrogant and egotistical!

The whole situation is a complete paradox. This show and others like it are the reason why pop music is in such a shallow, unimaginative state right now. It's the reason why talents like Prince are being kept out of the limelight. To go on the show would be to go against the vacuous pop he has been railing against in recent years.

And yet a show like this would be the perfect launching pad for Prince to get back to the top where he belongs! No wonder he was tempted.



Why is everybody acting as if American Idol is the be all and end all of media. It's like if you get offered and don't go on this show, then you're like the anti-Christ or something. What if he was simply TOO BUSY to be sitting around and talking to kids who would most likely butcher his songs anyways. Why are you people so obsessed with American Idol???
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Reply #14 posted 04/12/06 2:18pm

OdysseyMiles

PurpleKnight said:

Well with Stern, he did it 'cause Stern would've started off the interview by saying "You've banged a ton of hot chicks. Did you have anal with Carmen?"


That's obvious lol. I was just pointing out that P just does what he feels is best for him.
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Reply #15 posted 04/12/06 2:19pm

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He should do Oprah! It's been 10 years now! smile
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Reply #16 posted 04/12/06 2:25pm

WillyWonka

Anx said:

maybe he doesn't believe in the way they're trying to pursue success. what does a man who built his legend on writing all his own music, playing all his own instruments, and producing all his albums have to say to a bunch of kids who think they can go on a game show and sing a few karaoke songs and have the kind of fame it's taken him years of hard work to achieve?

good for prince, i say.


EXACTLY.
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Reply #17 posted 04/12/06 2:28pm

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Anx said:

maybe he doesn't believe in the way they're trying to pursue success. what does a man who built his legend on writing all his own music, playing all his own instruments, and producing all his albums have to say to a bunch of kids who think they can go on a game show and sing a few karaoke songs and have the kind of fame it's taken him years of hard work to achieve?

good for prince, i say.


AMEN!!!!!
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Reply #18 posted 04/12/06 2:28pm

twister6

Graycap23 said:

bigsexy said:

Sorry if the headline offends you but this whole Prince not doing American Idol
because he doesn't want to talk or inter-act with the kids on the show is
really sad. Don't get me wrong I love Prince and his music but I really think he feels like he's God almighty himself sometimes. Why does he feel like he is above talking to people who admire him. If he would have went on American Idol and was really cool with all the kids,showed his wit,sense of humor and showed 30 million people watching at home that he isn't as weird as most people see him as and then did a killer performance on there, his album sales would have sky rocketed back to #1.

If he didn't want to do the show because he doesn't like the show that would be totally fine but not going on because he might have to talk to the contestants is really sad.


Do u believe EVERYTHING u read?


Read what?
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Reply #19 posted 04/12/06 2:29pm

metalorange

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wonder505 said:


Why is everybody acting as if American Idol is the be all and end all of media. It's like if you get offered and don't go on this show, then you're like the anti-Christ or something. What if he was simply TOO BUSY to be sitting around and talking to kids who would most likely butcher his songs anyways. Why are you people so obsessed with American Idol???


American Idol is simply a top example of current culture which is based on feeling you have a right to everything you want without having to work for it. The sort of culture that breeds obese people waiting for a slimming pill to invented rather than doing some exercise. That moan about floods and increase in tornadoes but don't want to give up their gas-guzzling cars. The sort of culture where people sue for millions for the slightest thing. Where record companies would rather turn out one-hit wonders for maximum profit than invest in longterm development of artists and bands.

As for Prince being too busy, well, any other popstar you would argue that he should get his priorities straight. His album is complete and out there; apart from rehearsing for a forthcoming tour he shouldn't really have anything else on his plate other than promoting the album. But Prince is probably busy recording new tracks that will never see the light of day.
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Reply #20 posted 04/12/06 2:30pm

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Browntree007 said:

FUCK "american idol".
[Edited 4/12/06 14:01pm]



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Reply #21 posted 04/12/06 2:30pm

padawan

metalorange said:

The sad thing, is that Prince has managed to get the WORST out of both sides of this situation. On the one hand, simply by considering the possibility of doing this show, he has gone down in people's perceptions. On the other hand, by not doing it, he has shown himself (arguably) to be arrogant and egotistical!

The whole situation is a complete paradox. This show and others like it are the reason why pop music is in such a shallow, unimaginative state right now. It's the reason why talents like Prince are being kept out of the limelight. To go on the show would be to go against the vacuous pop he has been railing against in recent years.

And yet a show like this would be the perfect launching pad for Prince to get back to the top where he belongs! No wonder he was tempted.

Thinking about it, on balance, I really wish he'd done the show. I wish he'd sat down with the contestants and shown he isn't wierd and can be very normal and approachable, maybe taught them some basic musicianship that no doubt they lack, much in the same way he tried to teach Beyonce simple scales on the piano. And then put on a kick-ass show where he out-sung them and out-performed them and left the judges forever in his awe.
[Edited 4/12/06 14:16pm]


Aye. Very balanced post.

My only disagreement would be in people's desires for Prince to prove himself as "normal" and "approachable" and the like. No, the dude is is not normal, does not want to be perceived as normal, and has made strict guidelines as to how and when and by whom he is to be approached. That ain't normal.

I say do talk shows, do American Idol, Bandstand, whatever, and be as weird as humanly possible. Be a primadonna, be a diva, be a self-absorbed bratty aging pop star. Cuz that's what he is.

Whenever Prince tries to be normal it hurts my eyes and ears.
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Reply #22 posted 04/12/06 2:34pm

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bigsexy said:

Sorry if the headline offends you but this whole Prince not doing American Idol
because he doesn't want to talk or inter-act with the kids on the show is
really sad. Don't get me wrong I love Prince and his music but I really think he feels like he's God almighty himself sometimes. Why does he feel like he is above talking to people who admire him. If he would have went on American Idol and was really cool with all the kids,showed his wit,sense of humor and showed 30 million people watching at home that he isn't as weird as most people see him as and then did a killer performance on there, his album sales would have sky rocketed back to #1.

If he didn't want to do the show because he doesn't like the show that would be totally fine but not going on because he might have to talk to the contestants is really sad.



Ok...Like this is surprisiong behavior for Prince...the guy who gave one of the strangest interviews to Dick Clark at only 19. This AI thing is very on par with how he is as a person. Talking through other people and puppets...rarely giving interviews and when he does it's regurgitated spin. And he wouldn't be talking to people who admire him...just kids, who probably aren't even fans. He'd be letting down his personna and guard for a TV show that goes against almost everything he believes in as a musician.

I get the show. But I can't see these kids belting out P tunes (in front of him) nor can I see him coaching something he feels should be inherent anyway. And I can't see him not being the center of the show...performance or not.

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Reply #23 posted 04/12/06 2:38pm

wonder505

metalorange said:[quote]

wonder505 said:


Why is everybody acting as if American Idol is the be all and end all of media. It's like if you get offered and don't go on this show, then you're like the anti-Christ or something. What if he was simply TOO BUSY to be sitting around and talking to kids who would most likely butcher his songs anyways. Why are you people so obsessed with American Idol???


American Idol is simply a top example of current culture which is based on feeling you have a right to everything you want without having to work for it. The sort of culture that breeds obese people waiting for a slimming pill to invented rather than doing some exercise. That moan about floods and increase in tornadoes but don't want to give up their gas-guzzling cars. The sort of culture where people sue for millions for the slightest thing. Where record companies would rather turn out one-hit wonders for maximum profit than invest in longterm development of artists and bands.

You could not have put it any better, I hope the author of this thread reads it. clapping
[Edited 4/12/06 14:39pm]
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Reply #24 posted 04/12/06 2:39pm

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metalorange said:



The whole situation is a complete paradox. This show and others like it are the reason why pop music is in such a shallow, unimaginative state right now. It's the reason why talents like Prince are being kept out of the limelight. To go on the show would be to go against the vacuous pop he has been railing against in recent years.


EXACTLY!



Thinking about it, on balance, I really wish he'd done the show. I wish he'd sat down with the contestants and shown he isn't wierd and can be very normal and approachable,


But he's not. He IS wierd and eccentric and not that approachable, really.

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Reply #25 posted 04/12/06 2:41pm

wonder505

superspaceboy said:

metalorange said:



The whole situation is a complete paradox. This show and others like it are the reason why pop music is in such a shallow, unimaginative state right now. It's the reason why talents like Prince are being kept out of the limelight. To go on the show would be to go against the vacuous pop he has been railing against in recent years.


EXACTLY!



Thinking about it, on balance, I really wish he'd done the show. I wish he'd sat down with the contestants and shown he isn't wierd and can be very normal and approachable,


But he's not. He IS wierd and eccentric and not that approachable, really.



Do you honestly believe that Prince gives a sh*t about who thinks he's weird?
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Reply #26 posted 04/12/06 2:42pm

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Anx said:

maybe he doesn't believe in the way they're trying to pursue success. what does a man who built his legend on writing all his own music, playing all his own instruments, and producing all his albums have to say to a bunch of kids who think they can go on a game show and sing a few karaoke songs and have the kind of fame it's taken him years of hard work to achieve?

good for prince, i say.


So do I!! clapping
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Reply #27 posted 04/12/06 2:46pm

WillyWonka

metalorange said:

American Idol is simply a top example of current culture which is based on feeling you have a right to everything you want without having to work for it. The sort of culture that breeds obese people waiting for a slimming pill to invented rather than doing some exercise. That moan about floods and increase in tornadoes but don't want to give up their gas-guzzling cars. The sort of culture where people sue for millions for the slightest thing. Where record companies would rather turn out one-hit wonders for maximum profit than invest in longterm development of artists and bands.



Great post and great points.

Today's culture also places much too much on the superficial over substance. You see that all the time on AI as well...the heavier one, or the one with the less "marketable" looks, won't get far even if their voice is superior to the Hot Guy or the BarbieGirl With The Big Chest and a lot of those types have that "have a right to everything you want without having to work for it" mentality. They think their looks will carry them where their lack of talent won't take them -- and, sadly, they're often times proven correct. confused

It's too bad that, admittedly, American Idol could've and would've given Prince great exposure that he could use right now, but I'm glad he's not going on it.

Integrity will get rewarded, imo.
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Reply #28 posted 04/12/06 2:48pm

WillyWonka

superspaceboy said:

But he's not. He IS wierd and eccentric and not that approachable, really.



nod

And that's one of the reasons I think he's so much better and so far superior than these cookie-cutter, forgettable, throwaway pop 'artists' that AI and the record companies churn out. Prince is unique and there's never been anyone like him. He doesn't conform.
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Reply #29 posted 04/12/06 2:50pm

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Didja HEAR what those people did to Queen songs last night? If I were Prince, I wouldn't want to stick around listening to those people butcher my songs, either. At first, I thought, if the rumour that he didn't want to hang with the "kids" (they aren't all kids) was true, it was not the nicest thing, but very much in alignment with what I believe I know of Prince. But after last night's carnage...gahh....really, the world does not need Kelly Pickler (looks good on PAYpur? whut duz thayat mean? Aye down't hayave an ayxcent!) trying to sing Kiss, IMHO.
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