sosgemini said:

JoeyC said:

He ain't on drugs is he ?

Okay, I didn't want to be the first to say it but if you watch the interview that was posted here from a local mpls station where he wouldn't shut up, that was the first thing I thought. The over talking, the ADD, he couldn't stop moving around....

Yet, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say no.

Anyone have the link to this? I've searched the forum but didn't find it.

rdhull said:

sosgemini said:

Okay, I didn't want to be the first to say it but if you watch the interview that was posted here from a local mpls station where he wouldn't shut up, that was the first thing I thought. The over talking, the ADD, he couldn't stop moving around....

Yet, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say no.

Anyone have the link to this? I've searched the forum but didn't find it.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

rdhull said:


Anyone have the link to this? I've searched the forum but didn't find it.

I think this the one he's referring to: http://www.myfoxtwincitie...nov-3-2011

Is that the long version? The long version is really bad. When he's not talking he is fidgeting and at a couple points he rudely starts playing the guitar or fine tuning it while others are talking. I've been around a lot of tweakers and his behavior reminded me of those people.

I'm sure I am wrong---I hope I am.

Here is the long (full version) of the interview: http://www.myfoxtwincitie...nov-4-2011

Pokeno4Money said:

Genesia said:

The Original 6ven!

Always wanted to ask, am I the only one who doesn't understand the translated "Original SevenVen" name?

I understand using numbers as a replacement for letters (The Gr8ful Dead etc), but I just don't get what they are trying to accomplish with "7ven".

At Motown the Jackson brothers were often billed as "Jackson 5ive". Jimmy Jam himself said that is where they got "Original 7ven" from.

On 'The Original 7ven'

"That's exactly what we are," said Lewis, adding that they discussed using "the Tyme" and other names. "There's been a lot of people who have been in The Time. We are the only original seven."

According to Jam, the spelling is a takeoff on when Michael Jackson and his brothers called themselves "The Jackson 5ive." But he understands if fans are confused.

"People can call us the Time if they want," he said. "We just can't call ourselves that."

[Edited 12/17/11 11:46am]

NinaB said:

No one knows what goes on behind closed doors...is it really nescesary 2 totally assasinate his character ?!! The Time / 07 are my favourite band & i've loved the fella's for over 25 yrs (majority of my life) I was very very happy/excited with news of them getting back together /new cd / tour etc...so yes , i'm not happy bout this either...BUT i'm NOT going 2 say spitefull & mean things about people (& a situation) I DONT ACTUALLY KNOW PERSONALY... the part no one is commenting on is when jj basically said if he stayed they may lose their friendship... Some if not most of this thread has left a bad taste in my mouth , some of u even seem gleefull with your nasty mean spirited so called jokes

Two weeks ago Jesse johnson was a guitar god to the org and today he's an alleged druggie and an egomaniac! People are like wolves on here sometimes waiting for the next piece of raw meat to devour.

SoulAlive said:

Theories about Jesse's departure...

***Perhaps Jesse is feeling restless? The band were "planning" a tour for 2012 but I'm not sure if those plans were set in stone.Maybe he didn't wanna sit around,playing the occasional gig while waiting for the guys to decide to do a full tour? Maybe things weren't moving fast enough for Jesse.

***Maybe he's really pissed with Prince about the name change thing and wants to "speak his mind",but the other members are encouraging him not to? Jesse has always been the type of person who speaks his mind.I recall a blistering 1987 interview in Rock N' Soul magazine where he tore Prince a new one...lol...maybe it's hard for him to hold back now?

***Recent shows featured mostly old Time classics,and very little new material.Maybe Jesse is tired of "living in the past" and wants to play the new stuff? Maybe he wants the tour to focus mostly on 'Condensate' but the other guys don't agree?

what do you guys think?

I tend 2 agree w/U SoulAlive. When I saw them in MPLS, the show was AWESOME, but 95% classics!!! The only NEW stuff the did was "Strawberry Lake (and only as an intro)" and "Trendin' ". If ur new stuff is as crackin' as theirs, then what's w/all this old sh*t????

And by watchin' the documentary U can tell that Morris more so than Jesse wants 2 give Prince THA BIZNESS ]over the name-change thing......

CANUHELPME said:

Maybe Jesse thinks the band should play the new music and the other members think they should play the Time songs.

I think that's part of the problem too......

Well as dissappointed as I am. I also feel I can't say much until I know the whole story. Sort of why I withheld commenting on the name change thing because I have yet to know what Prince's reasonings were and the O7 never mentioned it. Until I find out both sides, I'm not going to assassinate Jesse's character whether he has a big ego or not. I think as fans we are selfish in expecting someone to stay in a situation they hate. How would anyone like someone to demand that of you? Just a thought. I do agree that this puts a huge damper on the name. Prince must be laughing his butt off.

sosgemini said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

I think this the one he's referring to: http://www.myfoxtwincitie...nov-3-2011

Is that the long version? The long version is really bad. When he's not talking he is fidgeting and at a couple points he rudely starts playing the guitar or fine tuning it while others are talking. I've been around a lot of tweakers and his behavior reminded me of those people.

I'm sure I am wrong---I hope I am.

The long version's link should actually be on the page of this link.

I hope y'all are wrong too about him on that shit. I just originally thought he was just excited and bursting with enthusiasm and that that was why he was the one always talkin' and movin' and playin' and shit.

HonestMan13 said:

HonestMan13 said:

NinaB said:

No one knows what goes on behind closed doors...is it really nescesary 2 totally assasinate his character ?!! The Time / 07 are my favourite band & i've loved the fella's for over 25 yrs (majority of my life) I was very very happy/excited with news of them getting back together /new cd / tour etc...so yes , i'm not happy bout this either...BUT i'm NOT going 2 say spitefull & mean things about people (& a situation) I DONT ACTUALLY KNOW PERSONALY... the part no one is commenting on is when jj basically said if he stayed they may lose their friendship... Some if not most of this thread has left a bad taste in my mouth , some of u even seem gleefull with your nasty mean spirited so called jokes

Two weeks ago Jesse johnson was a guitar god to the org and today he's an alleged druggie and an egomaniac! People are like wolves on here sometimes waiting for the next piece of raw meat to devour.

I think a lot of the reaction here comes from being hurt over his leaving the band before things could REALLY get started. We waited over 20 years for a new album from these guys, and the album hasn't even been out for 2 months and already he's bailing on the group and their fans. He's still one of the fiercest guitars players, period, but if there is any so-called "devouring", it's probably just a knee-jerk reaction to feeling left high and dry yet again by JJ.

HonestMan13 said:

NinaB said:

No one knows what goes on behind closed doors...is it really nescesary 2 totally assasinate his character ?!! The Time / 07 are my favourite band & i've loved the fella's for over 25 yrs (majority of my life) I was very very happy/excited with news of them getting back together /new cd / tour etc...so yes , i'm not happy bout this either...BUT i'm NOT going 2 say spitefull & mean things about people (& a situation) I DONT ACTUALLY KNOW PERSONALY... the part no one is commenting on is when jj basically said if he stayed they may lose their friendship... Some if not most of this thread has left a bad taste in my mouth , some of u even seem gleefull with your nasty mean spirited so called jokes

Two weeks ago Jesse johnson was a guitar god to the org and today he's an alleged druggie and an egomaniac! People are like wolves on here sometimes waiting for the next piece of raw meat to devour.

Don't twist things. I thought that something was up in the video immediately. It wasn't until *he* started to let his crazy shine via his FB page that I brought it up. The ownership is his and his alone.

HonestMan13 said:

NinaB said:

No one knows what goes on behind closed doors...is it really nescesary 2 totally assasinate his character ?!! The Time / 07 are my favourite band & i've loved the fella's for over 25 yrs (majority of my life) I was very very happy/excited with news of them getting back together /new cd / tour etc...so yes , i'm not happy bout this either...BUT i'm NOT going 2 say spitefull & mean things about people (& a situation) I DONT ACTUALLY KNOW PERSONALY... the part no one is commenting on is when jj basically said if he stayed they may lose their friendship... Some if not most of this thread has left a bad taste in my mouth , some of u even seem gleefull with your nasty mean spirited so called jokes

Two weeks ago Jesse johnson was a guitar god to the org and today he's an alleged druggie and an egomaniac! People are like wolves on here sometimes waiting for the next piece of raw meat to devour.

He's STILL a guitar god to me. I've already praised him twice in my comments for his work on the CD, and in shows. However, I do think it's sad that the reunion was so short lived.

sosgemini said:

Here is the long (full version) of the interview: http://www.myfoxtwincitie...nov-4-2011

very interesting..in a lot of ways, not just concerning Jesse (but hearing things fomr their mouths regarding Prince, Morris' all to quiet demeanor etc)...I mean all the things Jesse is stating about family too...its almost like when you have beef with someone and you finally get back together and talk and OVERDO the love...saying things that are kind of more than you probably feel out of embarrassment for the past or something.....

but to go from that interview to saying 'I gots ta go..Morris and Prince are cool doe..but later for yall etc'....I dont know

HonestMan13 said:

Two weeks ago Jesse johnson was a guitar god to the org and today he's an alleged druggie and an egomaniac! People are like wolves on here sometimes waiting for the next piece of raw meat to devour.

The internet is an amazing place to visit, but some people spend too much time saying negative things
about others. I liked it when we didn't have this much access to information about the celebraties we like. You didn't know who, what, when, where or how until it was necessary.

sunlite said:

HonestMan13 said:

Two weeks ago Jesse johnson was a guitar god to the org and today he's an alleged druggie and an egomaniac! People are like wolves on here sometimes waiting for the next piece of raw meat to devour.

The internet is an amazing place to visit, but some people spend too much time saying negative things
about others. I liked it when we didn't have this much access to information about the celebraties we like. You didn't know who, what, when, where or how until it was necessary.

You want to be plugged back into the matrix?

sosgemini said:

umanbing said:

sosgemini said:

Here is the long (full version) of the interview: http://www.myfoxtwincitie...nov-4-2011

Thanks for posting. This was an interesting and long interview. It was funny hearing them tell old stories. The funniest part was at 27:00 and Jerome starts talking about the "most inevitable" and Jessie says, "The who?" "What happened?" :lol Those brothers have known each other for a long time. I wish the best for all of them. They're cool. Jessie's expressing his feelings like most people do on their facebook profile.

talking about roosters and shit?

sosgemini said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

I think this the one he's referring to: http://www.myfoxtwincitie...nov-3-2011

Is that the long version? The long version is really bad. When he's not talking he is fidgeting and at a couple points he rudely starts playing the guitar or fine tuning it while others are talking. I've been around a lot of tweakers and his behavior reminded me of those people.

I'm sure I am wrong---I hope I am.

I notice that to .But choose not to address it here.Just enjoyed his honesty.I know he has a past that has been kept quiet. He seems like a tortured soul.

L4OATheOriginal said:

2elijah said:

[Edited 12/16/11 8:27am]

something in that bolded part about living on past achievements can seem 2 be a conflict of jesse's vision vs jimmy jam's vision of the band. perhaps jesse did want 2 play more current material

Could be. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what the fellas have to say about the future of the band, and how Jesse's departure will be handled by them, if he doesn't return to the group.

rdhull said:

sosgemini said:

Okay, I didn't want to be the first to say it but if you watch the interview that was posted here from a local mpls station where he wouldn't shut up, that was the first thing I thought. The over talking, the ADD, he couldn't stop moving around....

Yet, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say no.

Anyone have the link to this? I've searched the forum but didn't find it.

Jesse has had erratic behavior in the past and there was rumors of him taking drugs so who knows. Im not implying that drugs had anything to do with him leaving the OG's im just saying that something doesn't seem quite right. Jesse is eccentric so his Facebook posts and the interviews might just be a part of that. Either way i wish him and The Time the best and im highly disappointed.

JoeyC said:

rdhull said:

Anyone have the link to this? I've searched the forum but didn't find it.

Jesse has had erratic behavior in the past and there was rumors of him taking drugs so who knows. Im not implying that drugs had anything to do with him leaving the OG's im just saying that something doesn't seem quite right. Jesse is eccentric so his Facebook posts and the interviews might just be a part of that. Either way i wish him and The Time the best and im highly disappointed.

He also had that gun to his head episode in the early 90's...relationship issues enduced. I vaguely remember him making not light of the incident, but saying it was an act due to a big argument with his s.o. However, who does that?

let me just throw this out there and see what y'all say about this

okay morris still tours as morris day and the time and basically is doing what the O7 have done in their 2 gigs.

if morris was 2 "replace' the time with the 07 plus say tori on guitar, couldn't they technically still tour under the name morris day and the time?

when they did the vegas shows, they were known as the time

L4OATheOriginal said:

let me just throw this out there and see what y'all say about this

okay morris still tours as morris day and the time and basically is doing what the O7 have done in their 2 gigs.

if morris was 2 "replace' the time with the 07 plus say tori on guitar, couldn't they technically still tour under the name morris day and the time?

when they did the vegas shows, they were known as the time

Im thinking the reason Day was allowed to use the "..and The Time" moniker was becasue Jimmy, Terry, and Jesse were not involved. Im thinking he has something against so called "turn coats" of back in the day put something in his craw possibly. So as long as those folks were not involved, then everything was cool. But now ...uh uh. Not with most of them back in the fold again. Just a theory.

MickyDolenz said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Always wanted to ask, am I the only one who doesn't understand the translated "Original SevenVen" name?

I understand using numbers as a replacement for letters (The Gr8ful Dead etc), but I just don't get what they are trying to accomplish with "7ven".

At Motown the Jackson brothers were often billed as "Jackson 5ive". Jimmy Jam himself said that is where they got "Original 7ven" from.

On 'The Original 7ven'

"That's exactly what we are," said Lewis, adding that they discussed using "the Tyme" and other names. "There's been a lot of people who have been in The Time. We are the only original seven."

According to Jam, the spelling is a takeoff on when Michael Jackson and his brothers called themselves "The Jackson 5ive." But he understands if fans are confused.

"People can call us the Time if they want," he said. "We just can't call ourselves that."

[Edited 12/17/11 11:46am]

Now I know, thank you Micky

Pokeno4Money said:

Now I know, thank you Micky

You're welcome. I also think "Original 7ven" is easier to search for than "Original 7". Just like "The Beatles" is easier than "The Beetles". "Original 7" pretty generic, just like "The Time", "The Family", "The Cars", and "The Eagles".

MadamGoodnight said:

HonestMan13 said:

Two weeks ago Jesse johnson was a guitar god to the org and today he's an alleged druggie and an egomaniac! People are like wolves on here sometimes waiting for the next piece of raw meat to devour.

He's STILL a guitar god to me. I've already praised him twice in my comments for his work on the CD, and in shows. However, I do think it's sad that the reunion was so short lived.

He's still a guitar god to me too, and if I don't like what he did I'm gonna say so. He backed out of a commitment and let a lot of people down at a crucial time and I'm not amused. His increasingly bizarre posts on fb are troubling too.

Now, if dude is genuinely troubled I would take that into consideration and suggest he get some help to cope with whatever but I stand by my statement that what he did was foul.