Oh boy, he is going on and on on Facebook. I don't even wanna post the latest. I feel sorry for him.

Attention To Whom Ever:

Prince well never be forgotten in life. even through our disagreements, it was Prince who taught me how to be a STAR instead of just a guitar player. So always, much love to Prince & Morris! Those two bad mother fuckers gave me my world wide shot, and I more than delivered what was expected of but I know I've more than paid in full$$$$$

Prince truly was not an influence,... because we influenced by a lot of the same players, mainly SLY STONE! I'm still trying to be SLY STONE!!!!!!!

And if you don't agree or believe lets agree to disagree Peacefully!

LovePeace,
Jesse Johnson Bey ♥

Is Jesse sure he wants to be or end up like Sly Stone? Has he seen Sly lately? The difference between being influenced by Prince vs Sly Stone and ending up like one of them, is that Prince went on to become a successful and serious musician/performer, still filling arenas, whereas Sly ended up by the wayside. Now although I have the utmost respect for Sly Stone's contributions to music and all the memories of his music that I listened to and enjoyed, and still do, I think Jesse better think twice on which one he would rather be like or end up like...Prince or Sly?

Wake up Jesse, you can't be that damn clueless.

[Edited 12/16/11 19:41pm]

Are we sure this is actually truly Jese Johnson posting on that FB page? Is it confirmed that it is actually his FB and not a fan?

Prince was not an influence?

Please explain why most of your output sounds like it came straight from the purple vault?

I can only hope that isn't him.

Some of those posts on his FB page are questionable. Sounds like someone crying out for help. That long one, just before the last one posted here, well, very questionable.

Oh Jesus...

sosgemini said:

Oh boy, he is going on and on on Facebook. I don't even wanna post the latest. I feel sorry for him.

I saw that other one, the long one talking about his guitar, etc. He doesn't sound right for some reason. Whatever is bothering him, I hope he works it out.

[Edited 12/16/11 20:43pm]

2elijah said:

sosgemini said:

Oh boy, he is going on and on on Facebook. I don't even wanna post the latest. I feel sorry for him.

I saw that other one, the long one talking about his guitar, etc. He doesn't sound right for some reason.

Post that. I hate going into Facebook with all of its changes lately...

Timmy84 said:

2elijah said:

I saw that other one, the long one talking about his guitar, etc. He doesn't sound right for some reason.

Post that. I hate going into Facebook with all of its changes lately...

Okay, here it goes. What do you think? You think he's okay? He did respond to one of his friends on his page to an earlier post on there, that he is the real Jesse Johnson on that FB page.. So apparently it's him posting those comments. Just sounds a bit off, and I don't want to sound like I'm talking bad about him either, because I'm not. Just wonder if he is okay because his posts are coming off like he's a bit confused.

Jesse Johnson

Pleasure and only Pleasure is what I'm thriving for when I'm bringing forth my electric noise to you and your earholes.♥

When I play guitar, I touch the strings so gently that I want the sound to literally drip from my fingers. Sometimes I press the guitar against my body so that I can feel my heartbeat thru it! I love large amplifiers with a lot of paper moving (Speakers) your pants and shirt. I...t's really an out of body experience.♥

But remember the sound has to be so Warm and Sensually Electric and Spiritual too!♥

That's why Crystals, Turquoise, Onyx, Silver, and the sort adorn my instruments in an attempt to draw in good energy as well as send out good clean uplifting energy to you that feel what i'm trying to say. I say trying to say because no one has control over creativity. So we try to coax her into caressing us for if only just a little while. ♥

I fall asleep playing guitar at least 6 out of 7 nights, not writing just playing. When i don't fall asleep playing I dream of playing something or with some one cool! (I dig that drummer Quest on the Fallon show and the bass player women with the short hair, Michele, I can't pronounce her name but she's fucking amazing to hear get off, i mean she's scary!)

I'm still very intrigued by guitar and people like Hendrix, Al & BB King, James Page, Ed Hazel, Tony Iommi, and Curtis Mayfield, Wes, Spanky, Jubu, Pat Martino, and how they pulled so much from such a limited instrument, as apposed to piano that is.

Please excuse me for boring you about guitar, but at times she's been my only friend (or at least she's had to share me with another woman)

For those who don't like my music or anything about thy, lets just RESPECTFULLY to agree to DISAGREE. So love one, and not always all!

LovePeace,

[Edited 12/16/11 21:21pm]

I don't think it's Jesse. If it is..then...trouble in gotham.

I am certain now that he posts here on the org. Well, pretty sure. There are quite a few people that post similarly here. Zalaria is a mystery no more.

2elijah said:

Timmy84 said:

Okay, here it goes. What do you think? You think he's okay? He did respond to one of his friends on his page to an earlier post on there, that he is the real Jesse Johnson on that FB page.. So apparently it's him posting those comments. Just sounds a bit off, and I don't want to sound like I'm talking bad about him either, because I'm not. Just wonder if he is okay because his posts are coming off like he's a bit confused.

Jesse Johnson

Pleasure and only Pleasure is what I'm thriving for when I'm bringing forth my electric noise to you and your earholes.♥

When I play guitar, I touch the strings so gently that I want the sound to literally drip from my fingers. Sometimes I press the guitar against my body so that I can feel my heartbeat thru it! I love large amplifiers with a lot of paper moving (Speakers) your pants and shirt. I...t's really an out of body experience.♥

But remember the sound has to be so Warm and Sensually Electric and Spiritual too!♥

That's why Crystals, Turquoise, Onyx, Silver, and the sort adorn my instruments in an attempt to draw in good energy as well as send out good clean uplifting energy to you that feel what i'm trying to say. I say trying to say because no one has control over creativity. So we try to coax her into caressing us for if only just a little while. ♥

I fall asleep playing guitar at least 6 out of 7 nights, not writing just playing. When i don't fall asleep playing I dream of playing something or with some one cool! (I dig that drummer Quest on the Fallon show and the bass player women with the short hair, Michele, I can't pronounce her name but she's fucking amazing to hear get off, i mean she's scary!)

I'm still very intrigued by guitar and people like Hendrix, Al & BB King, James Page, Ed Hazel, Tony Iommi, and Curtis Mayfield, Wes, Spanky, Jubu, Pat Martino, and how they pulled so much from such a limited instrument, as apposed to piano that is.

Please excuse me for boring you about guitar, but at times she's been my only friend (or at least she's had to share me with another woman)

For those who don't like my music or anything about thy, lets just RESPECTFULLY to agree to DISAGREE. So love one, and not always all!

LovePeace,

[Edited 12/16/11 21:21pm]

I think there's trouble in Gotham for sure.

[Edited 12/16/11 21:38pm]

Genesia said:

The Original 6ven!

Always wanted to ask, am I the only one who doesn't understand the translated "Original SevenVen" name?

I understand using numbers as a replacement for letters (The Gr8ful Dead etc), but I just don't get what they are trying to accomplish with "7ven".

sly is one of the baddest cats to do it in this business. prince has become succesful by imitating sly look and music.

That is sad news, I was all excited about The Time getting back together, and I love the O7 album!

I guess the other O7 guys will regret their newly chosen name, now that there are only six left it would be a bit strange to still use it.

CANUHELPME said:

They should ask Prince to join the band. LOL They would still be the O7.

LOL, that is what I thought too! WOuld be awesome, even if it was only for one album or tour.

He ain't on drugs is he ?

Vendetta1 said:

babynoz said:

I'm about to pull out my Verbal Penetration cd so I can stomp on it.

Noooooo......

This time comes when we have to do things for ourselves and not for anyone else. My feeling is Jesse was not doing the reunion for himself but for fans.

i'll look forward to seeing him in chicago, hopefully.

Well, if that's the case, then that's even worse, isn't it? He would basically be shitting on The Time's fans and not caring what we wanted.

SoulAlive said:

Theories about Jesse's departure...

***Perhaps Jesse is feeling restless? The band were "planning" a tour for 2012 but I'm not sure if those plans were set in stone.Maybe he didn't wanna sit around,playing the occasional gig while waiting for the guys to decide to do a full tour? Maybe things weren't moving fast enough for Jesse.

***Maybe he's really pissed with Prince about the name change thing and wants to "speak his mind",but the other members are encouraging him not to? Jesse has always been the type of person who speaks his mind.I recall a blistering 1987 interview in Rock N' Soul magazine where he tore Prince a new one...lol...maybe it's hard for him to hold back now?

***Recent shows featured mostly old Time classics,and very little new material.Maybe Jesse is tired of "living in the past" and wants to play the new stuff? Maybe he wants the tour to focus mostly on 'Condensate' but the other guys don't agree?

what do you guys think?

I definitely don't think Prince forcing any name change is responsible for this. I'm almost inclined to think it's #3, and he was wanting to put more new shit (or maybe more of his own stuff) on the show's setlist. It also could be the acts they're planning on touring with are who he feels acts that should be playing behind him/them instead of the other way around.

All I know is he has COMPLETELY let the boys down and his and O7's fans down! This shit ain't cool with me at all. Now they gotta go get another guitarist for the group and get him rehearsed (they might as well bring in Tori Ruffin), and then their name is no longer accurate, as you stated before. They're no longer gonna be all the original members. What now? Original 6ix Plus 1ne??

rdhull said:

What a dick move.

Okay, Mark Waid.

Maybe Jesse Johnson is all of the above or none of them. He seems to be a...self possessed person, if you may, but that doesn't excuse commiting to an album by a group he decided to get re-involved with, making an album with them, and then not sticking around long enough to at least support that album with the publicized planned tour behind it. Shades of Prince past, anyone?

When u think about it no one knows for sure what is going down. It may not be Jesse thats causing him to wanna leave, maybe its somebody else or other disputes going on within the band but Jesse is just the one thats just spilling the beans and saying what he feels. Either way its ashame that this has happened so suddenly. Hope they can sort something out like replace him and continue with the band, but its not looking favourable.

I bet Prince is laughing his arse off at all this and TO7 now.

The other members should've said something by now.

JoeyC said:

He ain't on drugs is he ?

Okay, I didn't want to be the first to say it but if you watch the interview that was posted here from a local mpls station where he wouldn't shut up, that was the first thing I thought. The over talking, the ADD, he couldn't stop moving around....

Yet, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say no.

SoulAlive said:

Theories about Jesse's departure...

***Perhaps Jesse is feeling restless? The band were "planning" a tour for 2012 but I'm not sure if those plans were set in stone.Maybe he didn't wanna sit around,playing the occasional gig while waiting for the guys to decide to do a full tour? Maybe things weren't moving fast enough for Jesse.

***Maybe he's really pissed with Prince about the name change thing and wants to "speak his mind",but the other members are encouraging him not to? Jesse has always been the type of person who speaks his mind.I recall a blistering 1987 interview in Rock N' Soul magazine where he tore Prince a new one...lol...maybe it's hard for him to hold back now?

***Recent shows featured mostly old Time classics,and very little new material.Maybe Jesse is tired of "living in the past" and wants to play the new stuff? Maybe he wants the tour to focus mostly on 'Condensate' but the other guys don't agree?

what do you guys think?

these are very plausable theories. i 4 one am hoping they work this shit out . Jesse is sick on the guitar and tori comes very close, but like some have mentioned, the name of the band is now fucked. One thing that has "bothered" me about this reunion is like it seems Jimmy Jam and Jesse have been the most "vocalist" while Morris is like in the background not saying much.

2elijah said:

HonestMan13 said:

www.funktopia.com/funk-news/jesse-johnson-calls-it-quits-with-the-original-7ven/

Honestman12, Here's some info from that article link you posted. They basically just posted his FB posts from yesterday, and included the most recent ones after that. Seriously though, what kind of juice is Jesse drinking with these FB rants? Based on his last post, looks like he wants to move on.

Posted from above article link:

www.funktopia.com/funk-news/jesse-johnson-calls-it-quits-with-the-original-7ven/

..and then

"It is really me Jesse Johnson formerly of a few fucking bands. But I understand, there are so many pretenders, but it’s really me. I feel really bad for thevpeople who were looking forward to seeing me with The Time or whoever, but you will see and hear me especially hear me forever! Music never dies, people do. Please excuse my spelling here and there I’m typing with one finger on my iPad.
LoovePeace, Jesse Johnson Bey ♥ (Birth name, I rarely use it in the entertainment world)

and then lastly this morning with

No old just new! Always reach for the stars! Always reach! Always venture into the unknown, creatively that is! Never become complacent or live on your past achievements. And never, I do mean never, worry about what people think of your music, clothing, etc…ESPECIALLY if you dig/love what your doing.
LovePeace, Jesse Johnson Bey ♥

!

[Edited 12/16/11 8:27am]

something in that bolded part about living on past achievements can seem 2 be a conflict of jesse's vision vs jimmy jam's vision of the band. perhaps jesse did want 2 play more current material

sosgemini said:

JoeyC said:

He ain't on drugs is he ?

Okay, I didn't want to be the first to say it but if you watch the interview that was posted here from a local mpls station where he wouldn't shut up, that was the first thing I thought. The over talking, the ADD, he couldn't stop moving around....

Yet, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say no.

I really, REALLY hope he's not. Playing with El Debarge and D'Angelo ain't gon' help his case if he is! Those two have iffy track records.

Jesse needs to get it together. He is really confusing his fans with these erratic post. I'm starting to worry about him. But find it odd that the reat of the band has remained quiet. i think its about to hit the fan soon and its not going 2 b pretty.

[Edited 12/17/11 13:08pm]

This is nuts.