But seriously, he sounds cool and sincere.

Besides, he never stole a $100 dollars from me for a CD never sent me.

Besides we talk shit about Prince, but everyone knows even Bart still loves him.

[Edited 12/20/11 14:13pm]

rdhull said:

Timmy84 said:

Plus I'm sure Jesse was talking about those who commented on his Facebook page and not here. Y'all act like everybody and their mama knows about this site. Some of y'all are even convinced Jesse posts here. Come on now lol only Prince and his folks know (or did know).

Bingo again. He is repsonding to fools on his fb.

BTW I posted a comment asking if he was okay becasue his previous writings were a bit disturbing and veiled. It was erased. So no negativity for Jesse even if it comnes form a place of concern. If folks are making statements about Jesse and drug use, address it and keep it movin. It isnt like he (and Leeds) are being so forthcoming anyways. These comments and many others are to be expected when you get news of this caliber for a project of O7 caliber. I mean really now: folks are cool with Jesse and his rooster cogburn analogies etc but clown when Prince does his Prince speak and such.

Again..double standards.

I have no problem owning that I was the first to bring up my observations based on *his* behavior during the interview and I'm glad he cleared it up. Yet, stop acting irratic during interviews and stop posting crazy gobbly gooo on FB and people won't start worrying about you.

And if your a public figure, stop acting shocked when people question your public crazyness. Shoot, because of my public advocacy work, I too get people starting rumors and asking questions and you know it? It's part of the job and I have to just deal. So Jesse, deal! Dig?

sosgemini said:

rdhull said:

Bingo again. He is repsonding to fools on his fb.

BTW I posted a comment asking if he was okay becasue his previous writings were a bit disturbing and veiled. It was erased. So no negativity for Jesse even if it comnes form a place of concern. If folks are making statements about Jesse and drug use, address it and keep it movin. It isnt like he (and Leeds) are being so forthcoming anyways. These comments and many others are to be expected when you get news of this caliber for a project of O7 caliber. I mean really now: folks are cool with Jesse and his rooster cogburn analogies etc but clown when Prince does his Prince speak and such.

Again..double standards.

I have no problem owning that I was the first to bring up my observations based on *his* behavior during the interview and I'm glad he cleared it up. Yet, stop acting irratic during interviews and stop posting crazy gobbly gooo on FB and people won't start worrying about you.

And if your a public figure, stop acting shocked when people question your public crazyness. Shoot, because of my public advocacy work, I too get people starting rumors and asking questions and you know it? It's part of the job and I have to just deal. So Jesse, deal! Dig?

I agree. And what you posted about his erratic musings wasn't disrespectful etc. You simply spoke about it and even stated concern.

What is odd to me si in the interviews and dvd, he is forthright (and outspoken) without using veiled metaphors etc. How come on a fb page he becomes all enigmatic and mysterious in hios owrdings? Im not against jesse, I love him more than most folks here profess too , trust. His playing and style were on the spot for me and to me even now. Having him, Jam, and terry together on one reelase was manna from heaven to me. So my meandering thoughts on this ios not trying to disrespect Jesse but maybe an indictment of us here, but however, if you are going to put shit on FB in the manmnner he has, you open yourself for criticsm, concern, conjecture, ...and clowning. Jesse Johnson is not above reproach. Yall know how we do it

PAPAROBBIE said:

Jesse Johnson

I feel as though I'm lowering my self values to address this awful, horrible lie/rumor. So I will address this subject once and only once: I have never indulged, advecated the use, or even had the slightest curiosity about personally using drugs. It's incredibley irresponsible to spread rumors of such a nature or any kind for that matter about anyone. It's hurtful, it's disrespectful, it's extremely built on the foundation of cowardice, and more importantly, it minamises the true struggles as well as under appreciates those that have fought the fight and have over come their sever chemical addictions.

As far as me not playing between a certain time, there wasn't a set time for me to play my guitar. This entire week, including yesterday was intirely and tirelessly dedicated to the children and their respective families. What the children/families needed most from all involved; The Young Creator, (and friends i.e. me included) was to deliver on gifts, food, appreciation of their struggles, and to know some one cares, and that my rude ass friends, we did that till we all shed tears of joy!!!!!!

So I ask again with all do respect, for those have nothing positive or beautiful to add to any of our lives, meaning us who dig what positives we together bring to this sight do us all a huge, huge favor and stay the fuck off this sight. We are all grown and I'm sure for the most part know about all the ugliness that happens ever fucking day in the world. So I personally love it when I read comments that are beautiful, full of excitement, and inspiring to me.

So please take that self important comment bull some where else, because it's not wanted or needed here. I also would like to apologize if I offended you because like I sang before: " I beg your pardon I didn't mean you, I'll take the blame you don't stand accuse" (Black In America)
P.S.
Everything we provided including gifts, prizes, food, and performing,
we did all for the love of it. Freeeeeee!

(Hey Hector the other song was "Maggot Brain" and as Hector will testify, I only drink French Press Coffee and damn Ra Pour's coffee is amazing!)

Keep It Soulful!
PeaceLove,
Jesse Johnson Bey ♥

PAPAROBBIE said:

Jesse Johnson

I feel as though I'm lowering my self values to address this awful, horrible lie/rumor. So I will address this subject once and only once: I have never indulged, advecated the use, or even had the slightest curiosity about personally using drugs. It's incredibley irresponsible to spread rumors of such a nature or any kind for that matter about anyone. It's hurtful, it's disrespectful, it's extremely built on the foundation of cowardice, and more importantly, it minamises the true struggles as well as under appreciates those that have fought the fight and have over come their sever chemical addictions.

As far as me not playing between a certain time, there wasn't a set time for me to play my guitar. This entire week, including yesterday was intirely and tirelessly dedicated to the children and their respective families. What the children/families needed most from all involved; The Young Creator, (and friends i.e. me included) was to deliver on gifts, food, appreciation of their struggles, and to know some one cares, and that my rude ass friends, we did that till we all shed tears of joy!!!!!!

So I ask again with all do respect, for those have nothing positive or beautiful to add to any of our lives, meaning us who dig what positives we together bring to this sight do us all a huge, huge favor and stay the fuck off this sight. We are all grown and I'm sure for the most part know about all the ugliness that happens ever fucking day in the world. So I personally love it when I read comments that are beautiful, full of excitement, and inspiring to me.

So please take that self important comment bull some where else, because it's not wanted or needed here. I also would like to apologize if I offended you because like I sang before: " I beg your pardon I didn't mean you, I'll take the blame you don't stand accuse" (Black In America)
P.S.
Everything we provided including gifts, prizes, food, and performing,
we did all for the love of it. Freeeeeee!

(Hey Hector the other song was "Maggot Brain" and as Hector will testify, I only drink French Press Coffee and damn Ra Pour's coffee is amazing!)

Keep It Soulful!
PeaceLove,
Jesse Johnson Bey ♥

I think its funny that they would rather break up than actually work to sell their album. Not surprised. Lets face it, without Prince we now see what it is.

dandeeland said:

I think its funny that they would rather break up than actually work to sell their album. Not surprised. Lets face it, without Prince we now see what it is.

dandeeland said:

I think its funny that they would rather break up than actually work to sell their album. Not surprised. Lets face it, without Prince we now see what it is.

Somebody needs to be the "boss". They needed it back then and they need it now.

dandeeland said:

I think its funny that they would rather break up than actually work to sell their album. Not surprised. Lets face it, without Prince we now see what it is.

prince doesn't even 'sell" his own albums so regardless of whether prince got invovled or not, hopefully the time will continue in some form or fashion

They are done. Its obvious they have already stopped updating and promoting this project. I am sure that this validates the reason Prince had for not backing this as they obvious were not serious to follow through. Jesse...what a schmuck!! Its hilarious to me because he has always thought he was bigger than what he is. I wish the Time would just replace him with Tori because lets face it, they don't need Jesse at all. Tori is just as good and can fill in nicely. But.. that is wishful thinking as the O7 is now completely dead. R.I.P. I guess its back to the "Morris Day and the Time" touring festival days for ol Morris!!

this is very disapointing damn..

I suggest that we wait to hear from the rest of the members of O7 before we leap to any conclusions...

has any other member said anything yet anywhere?

L4OATheOriginal said:

dandeeland said:

I think its funny that they would rather break up than actually work to sell their album. Not surprised. Lets face it, without Prince we now see what it is.

prince doesn't even 'sell" his own albums so regardless of whether prince got invovled or not, hopefully the time will continue in some form or fashion

Yeah, share THAT! Prince don't follow his own shit through 2 months after releasing it either, so this is all par the course.

To Whom It May Concern!

Prince don't have to. He has already made his money. Its up to us to keep the word out...Which most don't or care to which is sad...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

To Whom It May Concern!

Prince don't have to. He has already made his money. Its up to us to keep the word out...Which most don't or care to which is sad...

wait wait wait, so ur saying it's up 2 the fans 2 be his PR dept now? we're the ones that have 2 send tracks to the radio station, create videos, go into record stores and post flyers?

his last album wasn't even "available" in the states ..a year later and still no 20ten in the stores

wow and what is our fee for doing his promotional work?

It's useless if he's releasing the albums through newspaper outlets in some European countries and no one else can afford it.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Its up to us to keep the word out...Which most don't or care to which is sad...

That's Prince's job or his record company and promo department. The Beatles broke up in 1970 and still outsell Prince today. They also get written up in magazines a lot and continue to have books put out about them. Prince was never a really big mainstream seller other than Purple Rain and maybe 1999.

MickyDolenz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Its up to us to keep the word out...Which most don't or care to which is sad...

That's Prince's job or his record company and promo department. The Beatles broke up in 1970 and still outsell Prince today. They also get written up in magazines a lot and continue to have books put out about them. Prince was never a really big mainstream seller other than Purple Rain and maybe 1999.

That is why we as fans should bond together and be team leaders like other artist have.But Prince fans are selfish and rather put him down then help. But artist don't sell records anymore.Besides The Beatles which is an unfair comparison. There fans are like no other and They're a group with individual followings of each member.Also Prince had way more than two mainstream sellers....Don't down play his mega sells.

^ Adele's selling records.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

MickyDolenz said:

That's Prince's job or his record company and promo department. The Beatles broke up in 1970 and still outsell Prince today. They also get written up in magazines a lot and continue to have books put out about them. Prince was never a really big mainstream seller other than Purple Rain and maybe 1999.

That is why we as fans should bond together and be team leaders like other artist have.But Prince fans are selfish and rather put him down then help. But artist don't sell records anymore.Besides The Beatles which is an unfair comparison. There fans are like no other and They're a group with individual followings of each member.Also Prince had way more than two mainstream sellers....Don't down play his mega sells.

The fans are not the only reason. The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, etc have the record companies, media, and advertising agencies pushing them. They're heard and/or seen on commercials, movies, video games, and lots of other places. They have plays, circus shows, tribute bands/performers also. Their material is constantly being repacked/remastered/remixed/re-released. So new generations hear and buy their stuff. Elvis really became a big money maker when Precilla Presley started marketing his image and opened up Graceland to the public after he died. Prince isn't pushed in the same way, and few of his songs are played on oldies stations. Prince going independent didn't help his cause either. Hardly anyone knows Prince's post Warners material but hardcore fans and most of it is out of print. His last big hit single was in 1994.

I didn't say Prince had only two albums that were popular, but those are the biggest as far as mainstream popularity goes and then Diamonds & Pearls. Prince was never accepted or sold in the same way as Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Madonna, Bon Jovi, George Michael, U2, or Lionel Richie did. Nor did many of his singles get a lot of airplay or became big hits. Prince was never press friendly, so they have nothing to write about him or any reason to. John Lennon was always talking to reporters about anything and everything. So there's lots of material to reprint. Prince would never do something like Anthology (Beatles) or have his music made into a stage play like Billy Joel, Neil Diamond, Frankie Valli, etc. Prince was banning his music from Youtube and threatening to sue people for putting his photos on websites. So he's letting himself become more and more obscure. B.B. King appears in commercials and guest star on TV programs which keeps him out there where people can see him although he doesn't get much radio airplay.

MickyDolenz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That is why we as fans should bond together and be team leaders like other artist have.But Prince fans are selfish and rather put him down then help. But artist don't sell records anymore.Besides The Beatles which is an unfair comparison. There fans are like no other and They're a group with individual followings of each member.Also Prince had way more than two mainstream sellers....Don't down play his mega sells.

The fans are not the only reason. The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, etc have the record companies, media, and advertising agencies pushing them. They're heard and/or seen on commercials, movies, video games, and lots of other places. They have plays, circus shows, tribute bands/performers also. Their material is constantly being repacked/remastered/remixed/re-released. So new generations hear and buy their stuff. Elvis really became a big money maker when Precilla Presley started marketing his image and opened up Graceland to the public after he died. Prince isn't pushed in the same way, and few of his songs are played on oldies stations. Prince going independent didn't help his cause either. Hardly anyone knows Prince's post Warners material but hardcore fans and most of it is out of print. His last big hit single was in 1994.

I didn't say Prince had only two albums that were popular, but those are the biggest as far as mainstream popularity goes and then Diamonds & Pearls. Prince was never accepted or sold in the same way as Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Madonna, Bon Jovi, George Michael, U2, or Lionel Richie did. Nor did many of his singles get a lot of airplay or became big hits. Prince was never press friendly, so they have nothing to write about him or any reason to. John Lennon was always talking to reporters about anything and everything. So there's lots of material to reprint. Prince would never do something like Anthology (Beatles) or have his music made into a stage play like Billy Joel, Neil Diamond, Frankie Valli, etc. Prince was banning his music from Youtube and threatening to sue people for putting his photos on websites. So he's letting himself become more and more obscure. B.B. King appears in commercials and guest star on TV programs which keeps him out there where people can see him although he doesn't get much radio airplay.

One word MASTER TAPES! When Prince owns those U will c a big difference..........He will be all over the place and still be relatively still young compared to them. The owner of those artist Masters is handiling them very well. So will Princey.......

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

One word MASTER TAPES! When Prince owns those U will c a big difference..........He will be all over the place and still be relatively still young compared to them. The owner of those artist Masters is handiling them very well. So will Princey.......

What does that have to do with anything? The Beatles don't own their masters (Parlophone does), and Michael Jackson owns their publishing. The surviving Beatles (+ Olivia & Yoko) do have approval over any use of their recordings, though. Very few acts own their master tapes, and their music is out there (ie The Temptations). Master tapes also doesn't have anything to do with media coverage either. I've heard that TV programs tend to avoid Prince's music because he asks for too much money. One of his songs was in a early 1980's Different Strokes episode, but was edited out when the show was released on DVD. So he's pricing himself out of the market.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

MickyDolenz said:

The fans are not the only reason. The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, etc have the record companies, media, and advertising agencies pushing them. They're heard and/or seen on commercials, movies, video games, and lots of other places. They have plays, circus shows, tribute bands/performers also. Their material is constantly being repacked/remastered/remixed/re-released. So new generations hear and buy their stuff. Elvis really became a big money maker when Precilla Presley started marketing his image and opened up Graceland to the public after he died. Prince isn't pushed in the same way, and few of his songs are played on oldies stations. Prince going independent didn't help his cause either. Hardly anyone knows Prince's post Warners material but hardcore fans and most of it is out of print. His last big hit single was in 1994.

I didn't say Prince had only two albums that were popular, but those are the biggest as far as mainstream popularity goes and then Diamonds & Pearls. Prince was never accepted or sold in the same way as Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Madonna, Bon Jovi, George Michael, U2, or Lionel Richie did. Nor did many of his singles get a lot of airplay or became big hits. Prince was never press friendly, so they have nothing to write about him or any reason to. John Lennon was always talking to reporters about anything and everything. So there's lots of material to reprint. Prince would never do something like Anthology (Beatles) or have his music made into a stage play like Billy Joel, Neil Diamond, Frankie Valli, etc. Prince was banning his music from Youtube and threatening to sue people for putting his photos on websites. So he's letting himself become more and more obscure. B.B. King appears in commercials and guest star on TV programs which keeps him out there where people can see him although he doesn't get much radio airplay.

One word MASTER TAPES! When Prince owns those U will c a big difference..........He will be all over the place and still be relatively still young compared to them. The owner of those artist Masters is handiling them very well. So will Princey.......

damn u need 2 stop right here .. wake up nothing ur saying is gonna change anything. accept the facts of what others are saying about prince here. it's nice 2 have hope but this is just ..laughable what ur saying. prince screwed prince and no matter how much we would like 4 things 2 change in outside world it just won't. unless prince changes it himself and it's not gonna happen anytime soon

L4OATheOriginal said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

One word MASTER TAPES! When Prince owns those U will c a big difference..........He will be all over the place and still be relatively still young compared to them. The owner of those artist Masters is handiling them very well. So will Princey.......

damn u need 2 stop right here .. wake up nothing ur saying is gonna change anything. accept the facts of what others are saying about prince here. it's nice 2 have hope but this is just ..laughable what ur saying. prince screwed prince and no matter how much we would like 4 things 2 change in outside world it just won't. unless prince changes it himself and it's not gonna happen anytime soon

Prince has not screwed Prince. He is still and have been very successful. Even MJ wasn't selling his latest records like he use to b 4 his untimely death.Now his sales are over the roof. So stop being so negative & think positive....

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

damn u need 2 stop right here .. wake up nothing ur saying is gonna change anything. accept the facts of what others are saying about prince here. it's nice 2 have hope but this is just ..laughable what ur saying. prince screwed prince and no matter how much we would like 4 things 2 change in outside world it just won't. unless prince changes it himself and it's not gonna happen anytime soon

Prince has not screwed Prince. He is still and have been very successful. Even MJ wasn't selling his latest records like he use to b 4 his untimely death.Now his sales are over the roof. So stop being so negative & think positive....

yeah but michael wasn't taking a fight for his masters and was still selling 10 times over prince. this isnt a mj vs prince debate i'm trying 2 say here, i'm just saying that prince's excercise over control will never sit right with the music world. he's right 4 claiming what's his, but the industry wants 2 u play by the rules and because he does this, no matter if he gets his masters back as long as he's alive he never will do what needs 2 be done properly 2 market his material. i'm not being negative, i'm being realistic

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

damn u need 2 stop right here .. wake up nothing ur saying is gonna change anything. accept the facts of what others are saying about prince here. it's nice 2 have hope but this is just ..laughable what ur saying. prince screwed prince and no matter how much we would like 4 things 2 change in outside world it just won't. unless prince changes it himself and it's not gonna happen anytime soon

Prince has not screwed Prince. He is still and have been very successful. Even MJ wasn't selling his latest records like he use to b 4 his untimely death.Now his sales are over the roof. So stop being so negative & think positive....

Mike didn't have any "latest" records. His last album released while he was living came out in 2001. After Thriller, he's only released 5 albums of new material, and one of those was with The Jacksons (Victory). If you count the remix album Blood On The Dance Floor, that's 6 albums. Those few did better than Prince's post Warners albums, even with the bad press.

[Edited 12/23/11 22:43pm]

MickyDolenz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince has not screwed Prince. He is still and have been very successful. Even MJ wasn't selling his latest records like he use to b 4 his untimely death.Now his sales are over the roof. So stop being so negative & think positive....

Mike didn't have any "latest" records. His last album released while he was living came out in 2001. After Thriller, he's only released 5 albums of new material, and one of those was with The Jacksons (Victory). If you count the remix album Blood On The Dance Floor, that's 6 albums. Those few did better than Prince's post Warners albums, even with the bad press.

[Edited 12/23/11 22:43pm]

I'm not talking about who did better.I'm just talking about sales wise Invincible compared to his early albums sold less. But I regret bringing MJ into this. Its not about him here. This is Prince world.

V10LETBLUES said:

Besides, he never stole a $100 dollars from me for a CD never sent me.

Ha ha ha! Dez is SO spiritual doing that...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

MickyDolenz said:

Mike didn't have any "latest" records. His last album released while he was living came out in 2001. After Thriller, he's only released 5 albums of new material, and one of those was with The Jacksons (Victory). If you count the remix album Blood On The Dance Floor, that's 6 albums. Those few did better than Prince's post Warners albums, even with the bad press.

[Edited 12/23/11 22:43pm]

I'm not talking about who did better.I'm just talking about sales wise Invincible compared to his early albums sold less. But I regret bringing MJ into this. Its not about him here. This is Prince world.

Not really, this thread is not about Prince at all. It's about The Original 7ven and Jesse Johnson. As far as Mike's albums go, I think Invincible sold more than early albums like Ben and Forever Michael.