.....So what's the problem....

Um, no. The wrong assumption was that i was talking specifically about YOU. Now where i characterized the initial response from YOU as "kool-aid-kid" like, the rest of my statement applies to the MOB mentality present on the Org when anyone has anything less than glowing to say about Prince.

I don't pay attention to what you post, sorry. Don't care that much.

Now you brought up two specific examples of where i out of NOWHERE personally attacked others for merely praising or admiring Prince. Let's look at that.

You brought up the USA Today article. I mentioned that according to the numbers in the ARTICLE, Prince hadn't had a platinum record since D&P other than Musicology which i don't think counts. Where's the attack? That's a comment based on the numbers provided? An observation. My only other comment was disagreeing with someone that Musicology sold a million copies at retail.

So what's the problem there?

And the D'Angelo thread.

My first comment on the thread was me talking about my personal experiences working on promoting the D'Angelo records and mentioning a similarity i found with Marvin Gaye. Then i disagreed with the take that since Prince doesn't have a problem releasing albums in a "timely manner" that every other artist should be held up to that standard and any artist that doesn't either isn't "an artist" or is "whining". I took it a step further and insinuated that people that aren't artists themselves maybe shouldn't judge those who are and decide what their artistic output should be. I then took umbrage with a comment that insinuated that someone like Marvin Gaye is LESS of an artist than Prince.

The FIRST appearance of me even calling someone a "kool-aid-kid" is on PAGE FOUR of the thread when i called someone that in response to a comment that Marvin didn't even write all of his own stuff.

The rest is there in black and white.

I don't mind being the bad guy on the Org, it's fine really. I'm comfortable with being disliked, but i don't think the myth equals reality. I usually don't go on the offensive unless i feel provoked in some manner, or if i feel like some kool-aid-kid is talking down to me.

You got proof otherwise, point it out. Those 2 examples weren't it, though.[Edited 8/15/08 12:34pm]

.....So what's the problem....

Wait a minute...I don't think that's fair!!!! Up to now I had not even posted on this thread so how am I getting blamed for all of this!!!!

Wait a minute...I don't think that's fair!!!! Up to now I had not even posted on this thread so how am I getting blamed for all of this!!!!

Wow. Someone expresses an opinion and the kool-aid kids attack like pirahna with a wounded tuna in the water. There's a shocker.

I've ALWAYS maintained that when W&L left after Parade you could absolutely hear a change in P's music and not for the better.

They gave his music a sophistication that i miss dearly.

And what i think Simon is trying to get across, is where W&L seem to be comfortable with themselves enough to make music is not only being used to score major television shows, but also working on their own stuff that sounds incredible, Prince sounds like the older he gets the more desperate he is to try and figure out how to "get back on top".

Sorry, kool-aid-kids. As much as ya'll would like a "Stepford Wives" forum where everyone thinks Prince is the music messiah that ya'll like to think he is and everyday will be "Starfish and Coffee", it's not going to be like that.

Every Prince fan doesn't have to be a robot. We can have a honest and frank discussion about the man, flaws and all.

Now ya'll got two targets. Have at it.

discuss...

The two songs off the new album are markedly better than anything Prince has recently released. It appears that Prince's girls have grown up and Prince hasn't.

It's been a recurrent complaint and one shouted down... can you hear it now?

Beyond All The Midnights In The World, the last album sounded quite desperate... Now W&L have come along and shown it to have been that, at least.

One hopes that Prince will mature and make music that speaks... not so, at the moment, he merely bleats and hopes a purple shroud will mask a deficit of ideas.

I don't think most people understand what an impact W&L made on Prince and his music back in the day. Prince was very hip, alternative and avant-garde in his ideas and sounds back then. Some of it HAS to be attributed to his close musical relationship with W&L.

In 2008, W&L's new music sounds much more cerebral and thought-provoking than Prince's latest efforts. They are different artists for sure but I have to say that based upon the two new tracks from W&L, Prince's music is falling flat in comparison.

yeah this is what happend 2 prince's music after wendy and lisa left:

1. it got FUNKIER
2. he went back 2 his r & b roots and that's what revolution fans hate

1. um, NO.
2. wrong, AGAIN.

not even close.

ok here is ur challenge: name one revolution track that u consider funky and i will name one that's even FUNKIER than that past the revolution

GAME ON

Like every time someone tries this, NO.
We won't agree. So there's no point. I'll name a track, you'll say [blank] is funkier, i won't agree, blah blah blah.

Let's just agree to disagree, shall we?

I don't think most people understand what an impact W&L made on Prince and his music back in the day. Prince was very hip, alternative and avant-garde in his ideas and sounds back then. Some of it HAS to be attributed to his close musical relationship with W&L.

In 2008, W&L's new music sounds much more cerebral and thought-provoking than Prince's latest efforts. They are different artists for sure but I have to say that based upon the two new tracks from W&L, Prince's music is falling flat in comparison.

ok here is ur challenge: name one revolution track that u consider funky and i will name one that's even FUNKIER than that past the revolution

GAME ON

U honestly think the Revelution was funkeir than Princes other bands?

I don't think most people understand what an impact W&L made on Prince and his music back in the day. Prince was very hip, alternative and avant-garde in his ideas and sounds back then. Some of it HAS to be attributed to his close musical relationship with W&L.

In 2008, W&L's new music sounds much more cerebral and thought-provoking than Prince's latest efforts. They are different artists for sure but I have to say that based upon the two new tracks from W&L, Prince's music is falling flat in comparison.