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Thread started 11/05/07 1:46pm

Jana91

Perez Hilton: Prince Hates His Fans!

The gossip gangster has just posted on his website the media buzz surrounding the Prince Fans United site. Check it out at Perezhilton.com, and the not so nice comments being left by his readers.
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Reply #1 posted 11/05/07 2:13pm

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well, imago said it all along "prince hates his fans" and i guess he does

lol
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #2 posted 11/05/07 2:19pm

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I SENT THEM THAT WITH THE TITLE TO BOOT!

You all can thank me later. nod

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Reply #3 posted 11/05/07 2:39pm

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IstenSzek said:

well, imago said it all along "prince hates his fans" and i guess he does

lol



Agreed
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Reply #4 posted 11/05/07 2:42pm

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So do I.
I wanna get the kind that you put up on the ceiling.
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Reply #5 posted 11/05/07 2:59pm

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Jana91 said:

The gossip gangster has just posted on his website the media buzz surrounding the Prince Fans United site. Check it out at Perezhilton.com, and the not so nice comments being left by his readers.


Some of the comments are what we all have been saying for years. Even the non-fan gets it. Prince does not. You know what? I would really care less if he had a great site that allowed us to be fans, but he doesn't nor does he provide anything in it's place.

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Reply #6 posted 11/05/07 3:07pm

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I hate when people say "Prince hates his fans". I always thought, how would they know. Like they know what Prince is thinking, or had some kinda private conversation with him, where as those were his exact words.
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But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #7 posted 11/05/07 3:12pm

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Rinluv said:

I hate when people say "Prince hates his fans". I always thought, how would they know. Like they know what Prince is thinking, or had some kinda private conversation with him, where as those were his exact words.
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I think it's due to actions being louder than words.
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Reply #8 posted 11/05/07 3:23pm

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Kissmequick said:

Rinluv said:

I hate when people say "Prince hates his fans". I always thought, how would they know. Like they know what Prince is thinking, or had some kinda private conversation with him, where as those were his exact words.
[Edited 11/5/07 15:08pm]


I think it's due to actions being louder than words.

Yeah, I get that part.. But also seriously I wouldn't go as far by saying that Prince hates us or his fans because of his actions to do what ever he is trying to do. Like protecting his self image as a JW. Or just his music. But I don't care if he does or if he doesn't. I just didn't like that term "Prince Hates His Fans"..
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #9 posted 11/05/07 3:31pm

PurpleCharm

IstenSzek said:

well, imago said it all along "prince hates his fans" and i guess he does

lol

lol
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Reply #10 posted 11/05/07 3:37pm

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I am just curious, in the same instance, does Bill Gate hate his fans because he charges for say MS Word and we can not freely distribute it? I work for Software Company, and we provide an enabling technology, and you better believe we charge royalties. If you don't pay, we will come after you. Our IP, our trade and service marks, our copyrights are ours, and we created them, researched them, and paid to own the registrations. Do you think software companies have more rights than entertainers when it comes to being paid for their, lack of a better word, wares?
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Reply #11 posted 11/05/07 3:50pm

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iknowwhoyouare said:

I am just curious, in the same instance, does Bill Gate hate his fans because he charges for say MS Word and we can not freely distribute it? I work for Software Company, and we provide an enabling technology, and you better believe we charge royalties. If you don't pay, we will come after you. Our IP, our trade and service marks, our copyrights are ours, and we created them, researched them, and paid to own the registrations. Do you think software companies have more rights than entertainers when it comes to being paid for their, lack of a better word, wares?

Does Bill Gates threaten people who post pictures of his dorky face? Does he remove videos of his speeches or interviews? I'm down with not letting people bootleg the hell out of your music, thats stealing. But some of the things he does, and his heavy handed approach is ridiculous.
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Reply #12 posted 11/05/07 4:08pm

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Rinluv said:

Kissmequick said:



I think it's due to actions being louder than words.

Yeah, I get that part.. But also seriously I wouldn't go as far by saying that Prince hates us or his fans because of his actions to do what ever he is trying to do. Like protecting his self image as a JW. Or just his music. But I don't care if he does or if he doesn't. I just didn't like that term "Prince Hates His Fans"..


How do you think he views us? Maybe the word "Hate" is a bit strong. But why does he treat us the way he does? Besides all of this, I've heard many things to suggest that he has contempt for us.

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Reply #13 posted 11/05/07 4:10pm

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Reply #15 posted 11/05/07 4:15pm

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ToraToraDreams said:

iknowwhoyouare said:

I am just curious, in the same instance, does Bill Gate hate his fans because he charges for say MS Word and we can not freely distribute it? I work for Software Company, and we provide an enabling technology, and you better believe we charge royalties. If you don't pay, we will come after you. Our IP, our trade and service marks, our copyrights are ours, and we created them, researched them, and paid to own the registrations. Do you think software companies have more rights than entertainers when it comes to being paid for their, lack of a better word, wares?

Does Bill Gates threaten people who post pictures of his dorky face? Does he remove videos of his speeches or interviews? I'm down with not letting people bootleg the hell out of your music, thats stealing. But some of the things he does, and his heavy handed approach is ridiculous.


I get what you are saying, although in 2005 Microsoft did sue resellers in 8 states for illegal distribution. But, I think the recent major activity is based on YouTube releasing that new software more than anything, not Prince hating his fans. It is not like Prince has anything to do with the process, he filed a lawsuit to protect his interests. The YouTube software or his attorney's must have some sort of spiders going and searching sites, and sending out a standard letter, based purely on content matching not on Prince targeting anyone. Maybe I am taking it too personally given my personal opinion (collector of royalties, and a fan of Prince the musician), but it is all good, and just my opinionated 2 cents.
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Reply #16 posted 11/05/07 4:28pm

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Prince doesn't understand true love, he thinks love is a bumber sticker, like funk, which he stole from JB
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #17 posted 11/05/07 4:35pm

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iknowwhoyouare said:

ToraToraDreams said:


Does Bill Gates threaten people who post pictures of his dorky face? Does he remove videos of his speeches or interviews? I'm down with not letting people bootleg the hell out of your music, thats stealing. But some of the things he does, and his heavy handed approach is ridiculous.


I get what you are saying, although in 2005 Microsoft did sue resellers in 8 states for illegal distribution. But, I think the recent major activity is based on YouTube releasing that new software more than anything, not Prince hating his fans. It is not like Prince has anything to do with the process, he filed a lawsuit to protect his interests. The YouTube software or his attorney's must have some sort of spiders going and searching sites, and sending out a standard letter, based purely on content matching not on Prince targeting anyone. Maybe I am taking it too personally given my personal opinion (collector of royalties, and a fan of Prince the musician), but it is all good, and just my opinionated 2 cents.

Microsoft had every right to sue those distributers. I dont think u get me. I'm talking about petty crap. Like siking lawyers on non profit sites that post a picture of you or an interview video.
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Reply #18 posted 11/05/07 4:36pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Prince doesn't understand true love, he thinks love is a bumber sticker, like funk, which he stole from JB

If that's true,
then I feel sorry for him.

I finally came to understand true love when I heard the theme song from Titanic.
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Reply #19 posted 11/05/07 4:37pm

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iknowwhoyouare said:

ToraToraDreams said:


Does Bill Gates threaten people who post pictures of his dorky face? Does he remove videos of his speeches or interviews? I'm down with not letting people bootleg the hell out of your music, thats stealing. But some of the things he does, and his heavy handed approach is ridiculous.


I get what you are saying, although in 2005 Microsoft did sue resellers in 8 states for illegal distribution. But, I think the recent major activity is based on YouTube releasing that new software more than anything, not Prince hating his fans. It is not like Prince has anything to do with the process, he filed a lawsuit to protect his interests. The YouTube software or his attorney's must have some sort of spiders going and searching sites, and sending out a standard letter, based purely on content matching not on Prince targeting anyone. Maybe I am taking it too personally given my personal opinion (collector of royalties, and a fan of Prince the musician), but it is all good, and just my opinionated 2 cents.



Honestly Bill Gates and Prince are Apples and Oranges. Bill doesn't have people dedicate sites to him nor does he go on tour and have followers like Prince does. Really you can't compare the two.

We all love Prince's music. This has nothing to do about putting up his videos or putting up pics. And no it wasn't just a spider crawling around and found that youtube clip. Even if it was, that spider didn't send out the cease and disisst order. One would think (hope even) that it wasn't a blip and an instant C&D order based on that blip. Someone looked at it and made the decision to send it out.

Most of what this is about is Prince's "right" to control what lies there on the web that is about him. As far as I know there was no copyright infringement on P.org. He doesn't own the domain, nor any of the images. I mean how would it be if let's say the President of the US said all things printed or said about him was against copyright law? That he owns all pics and discussions about him. Or what if what ever you said about him had to be approved? It's called freedom of speech and it's a great thing.

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Reply #20 posted 11/05/07 4:55pm

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superspaceboy said:

Rinluv said:


Yeah, I get that part.. But also seriously I wouldn't go as far by saying that Prince hates us or his fans because of his actions to do what ever he is trying to do. Like protecting his self image as a JW. Or just his music. But I don't care if he does or if he doesn't. I just didn't like that term "Prince Hates His Fans"..


How do you think he views us? Maybe the word "Hate" is a bit strong. But why does he treat us the way he does? Besides all of this, I've heard many things to suggest that he has contempt for us.

Personally, I don't know how he veiws us, or thinks of his fan base as a whole. But I think deep down inside Prince is just a sensitive person. And like everyone Prince doesn't wanna be taken advantage of. He wants that security.
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #21 posted 11/05/07 5:32pm

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man, i always knew he was a nut... seriously..
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Reply #22 posted 11/05/07 5:41pm

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None of us should really be surprised. This is coming from the same man who picked out his wife's clothes and wouldn't allow her to call him.

Prince is an abusive, isolated, narcissistic control freak. He has always been this way.

It's still unbelievable how arrogant he's become, though, that he seems to think he can get away with abusing his fans by taking away their right to do the kinds of things that promulgate his legacy in the first place.

This guy really needs to reconnect with common reality. It's time to come back from Prince World and discover what it means to be authentic.

You can't sing against the Bush Government on your latest album and then act like a dictator yourself and expect people to blindly accept it.

I wouldn't necessarily say that Prince hates his fans, but he's definitely taking a dominant approach of trying to dictate what a Prince fan can and cannot do. That's just not reasonable or even realistic on Prince's part, and it will come back to haunt him if he keeps it up at this pace.

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Reply #23 posted 11/05/07 5:56pm

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Prince doesn't hate anybody...he just doesn't want to be idolized. It hurts, but I totally understand where he's coming from...he's not shutting us out...there comes a time when a line has to be drawn...
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Reply #24 posted 11/05/07 6:04pm

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minniemiko89 said:

Prince doesn't hate anybody...he just doesn't want to be idolized. It hurts, but I totally understand where he's coming from...he's not shutting us out...there comes a time when a line has to be drawn...


He doesn't want to be idolized, but he wants us to buy clothes from Chelsea and other items in his store. You can't have it both ways.
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Reply #25 posted 11/05/07 6:10pm

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IstenSzek said:

well, imago said it all along "prince hates his fans" and i guess he does

lol

touched




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Reply #26 posted 11/05/07 6:40pm

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I hate to say it, but I think Perez Hilton is right.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #27 posted 11/05/07 6:51pm

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I'm a freelance writer/photographer. You can bet I ask sites to take down stuff they used without getting permission first. Does that mean I hate them? Not at all. The whole point of copyright law is to allow the original creator of something to decide where, when and how (if at all) something gets disseminated. I don't know if fanaticism means people automatically forget this "minor" detail or what. But come on folks, this should be common sense. Prince doesn't hate his fans. If he did he sure as heck wouldn't ever play aftershows or have a website at all. The man has always been on the forefront of sticking up for artist's rights and this is no different. It may seem over the top because it's only pictures, but it's still THE LAW for pete's sake. Sites should be happy they weren't sued years ago (by anyone, including the major media sites they all rip off on a daily basis) because copyright violation carries ridiculous fines that not one of us on this forum would EVER want to pay. And that's for each infringement.
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Reply #28 posted 11/05/07 6:54pm

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minniemiko89 said:

Prince doesn't hate anybody...he just doesn't want to be idolized. It hurts, but I totally understand where he's coming from...he's not shutting us out...there comes a time when a line has to be drawn...


Then he should have gotten a regular job! I bet he doesn't mind the idolization when he talks to his accountant!
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Reply #29 posted 11/05/07 7:32pm

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deepabove said:

I'm a freelance writer/photographer. You can bet I ask sites to take down stuff they used without getting permission first. Does that mean I hate them? Not at all. The whole point of copyright law is to allow the original creator of something to decide where, when and how (if at all) something gets disseminated. I don't know if fanaticism means people automatically forget this "minor" detail or what. But come on folks, this should be common sense. Prince doesn't hate his fans. If he did he sure as heck wouldn't ever play aftershows or have a website at all. The man has always been on the forefront of sticking up for artist's rights and this is no different. It may seem over the top because it's only pictures, but it's still THE LAW for pete's sake. Sites should be happy they weren't sued years ago (by anyone, including the major media sites they all rip off on a daily basis) because copyright violation carries ridiculous fines that not one of us on this forum would EVER want to pay. And that's for each infringement.



Well said!

Too well i may add, .... i think you will have to talk down to this crowd or they just wont get it! wink
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