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Printable JazzMeUp said: Efan said: The aftershow argument doesn't wash either. Have you ever been to a Prince show or aftershow that started on time? He loves the power of knowing he can get people there and then making them wait.
Prince really hasn't been at the forefront of fighting for artists' rights. He definitely has fought for his own, but rarely have his efforts been for others. Er, it obviously hasn't crossed your mind that he might have needed a break to restore his energy after the main show (ie have a shower, change his clothes, have some food and maybe even take a nap, and who knows what else) basically relax a little, before giving his fans something well worth the wait! No? Sorry if this shocks you, but Prince is not a robot! MANY times Prince would purposefully have fans wait. How else do you explain how an after show could just end up being no show but it'd be Prince mingling and looking down on the crowd. It's not just the aftershows...but the parties at paisley as well...where there was no show prior that he had to regain his energy. But you'd still get the "invite" and show up and wait in hopes something would happen. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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TheDoctor said: It's probably all because he saw someone's post of the "red suspenders picture" of him.
Well, I'D probably threaten to sue to get that picture removed if it were me!   | |
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JazzMeUp said: I'm sure Prince does not lack reasons for his behaviour.
He could be reacting against the concept of "fan" which clashes with his beliefs (i.e. that God must come first)... Or maybe he is simply trying to reclaim his own identity which he feels has been stolen, misinterpreted or disgraced by many. Who knows what we would do if we were in his position? From a distance, it seems easy to be famous and living the glamorous life, but at the end of the day we're all humans and we have to deal with our emotions, regardless of how rich or poor we are. Being rich does not protect someone from being emotionally or psychologically hurt. And as the saying goes: "Hurt people, hurt people". Having said that, it would be a real shame if this website had to be closed down, as I have met some great people through these forums... i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito. dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts. | |
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Anxiety said: JazzMeUp said: I'm sure Prince does not lack reasons for his behaviour.
He could be reacting against the concept of "fan" which clashes with his beliefs (i.e. that God must come first)... Or maybe he is simply trying to reclaim his own identity which he feels has been stolen, misinterpreted or disgraced by many. Who knows what we would do if we were in his position? From a distance, it seems easy to be famous and living the glamorous life, but at the end of the day we're all humans and we have to deal with our emotions, regardless of how rich or poor we are. Being rich does not protect someone from being emotionally or psychologically hurt. And as the saying goes: "Hurt people, hurt people". Having said that, it would be a real shame if this website had to be closed down, as I have met some great people through these forums... i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito. dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts.  I'm firmly planted in denial | |
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Prince, I love you. I will still buy all his new cds and go to all of his shows and i think most of you will continue to do the same. As a matter of a fact, i will buy his old cds again if one of them gets scatched. The people on perezhilton are ridiculous, all of them say he is a has been or he releases cds every 6 or 7 years or he cant sing. If you are going to critize the man, at least make sense. Prince sucks? Yes and the patriots suck too. Peyton Manning is also a horrible QB and the United States is the worst country on planet earth (wonderful album)-give me a break people. Prince is the man and his music is the best, git wit it people. | |
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Anxiety said: JazzMeUp said: I'm sure Prince does not lack reasons for his behaviour.
He could be reacting against the concept of "fan" which clashes with his beliefs (i.e. that God must come first)... Or maybe he is simply trying to reclaim his own identity which he feels has been stolen, misinterpreted or disgraced by many. Who knows what we would do if we were in his position? From a distance, it seems easy to be famous and living the glamorous life, but at the end of the day we're all humans and we have to deal with our emotions, regardless of how rich or poor we are. Being rich does not protect someone from being emotionally or psychologically hurt. And as the saying goes: "Hurt people, hurt people". Having said that, it would be a real shame if this website had to be closed down, as I have met some great people through these forums... i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito. dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts. Well Stated Anx. | |
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Nothinbutjoy said: Anxiety said: i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito. dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts. lol [Name calling snip - luv4u], you still with this shit, now tring to giving advice on life? 
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Anxiety said: Giovanni777 said: Bravo! I gotta say that people should try 2 gain some perspective on this. The way it is being reported by the media is very slanted, so 2 speak. Also... since it is being done in a "legal method", it comes off sounding very harsh and extreme. Prince surely does NOT "hate" his "family of friends", as he would call them. The other thing folks should consider, is he may be planning something on a grand and generous scale 4 his "fams"... Peace. ~G i think YOUR perspective, while struggling admirably to pacify, is extremely generous. i have a clear understanding about why prince would want to control a great deal of the content he and his legal teams have gone after in the past. sure, sometimes i arrived at that "perspective" after a good deal of grumbling and teeth-gnashing, but after several of his past crusades, i "get it". this time? i have a lot of history to draw upon and a lot of insights into the artist and the man - years of it, from all over the place - and i've yet to find one proper, compelling argument that suggests why a picture of someone with a prince-themed tattoo violates prince's rights. or why a picture of my friends sitting on my couch - that JUST HAPPENS to have a prince poster in the background - is violating prince's rights. i can't "gain perspective" on how that's reasonable. and ya know what? i've been listening. waiting. still am. and as of now, i still have nothing. Case Closed.  | |
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I am late to the Bill Gates comparison. But just try infringing on Microsoft (C) copyright and see what happens.
Try selling even legal Microsoftt software that is USED and see what happens. Microsoftt really tight in protecting their copyright. They will shut you down quickly (cause they must have programs that seach the web or something sinister). Now prince is doing the same just like Ben said in his podcast, he agreed to that point. Henry H. 0+> Fan From Virginia | |
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violetblues said: Nothinbutjoy said: lol [name calling snip - luv4u], you still with this shit, now tring to giving advice on life?
[Troll bait snip - luv4u] come back when you have a response that doesn't involve namecalling and language that you can use to make yourself feel bigger than other people. at the end of the day, we're spouting opinions based on factual events and you're still talking shit like you're lucy van pelt. | |
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violetblues said: lspear76 said: What copyright protected work? A photo not owned by him? My opinion that his music since 1987 sucks? Please tell me. Listen carefully boy, if a person(maybe you) asks permission of owner of whatever copyright work, and if granted then its ok! and....sometimes people ask that you pay a fee for their work got it.  violet blues, u have answered correctly about copyrighted material, what u have not taken on board is that people r not and won't "get over" is the fact that their freedom to put together their arrangement of written words, or their personally taken photo, are being infringed upon. Control of royalties is something we (most of us) understand of course, P trying to control what people write on the web about him on a discussion forum or putting their personally taken pictures up or even just quoting lyrics, with citation.... Thats what people don't and refused to get. And its on this that prince actually has no legal right as far as the net is concerned..... But then he always loves to make the way and set the new presidency... The real question is do we all want to live with an internet where we can't chat and share our views and opinions and our photos and inspired artwork (inspired by prince or anyone who else who has intellectual property)? Do we want to live with an internet that becomes overly edited, in every way that no one dare speak their opinions about anything. Yes ok, threaten to sue over your copyrighted work not being credited and paid royalties, but don't dictate over stuff that hasn't got any of your names against it, mr nelson. we have names too, and we can arrange our words as we please too, and do with our photos we have taken as we please too. so there child!
For me there is the future bigger picture, and for now I'm too politically annoyed to fully express my disappointment over this pathetic potential court case. There is much more in life to worry over than whether a fan has a tattoo of ur face on their pussey, or where ever, or if they r discussing u, ur lovers, or quoting ur lyrics. It is prince that needs to get over himself....so that he can truly find himself and be himself at one, and stop constantly jumping from one facet to the next so he doesn't have to sit a while in his core! "nuff" said for now.... and now for my very own words which many of u can go on to quote , just write my pseudonym next to it, no money required,
"learn to understand the root of your motive for your actions and you will know thyself and love thyself" lovealotbare. I would also like to credit ben for the emoticon artwork used.     
edited for grammar sense [Edited 11/6/07 19:26pm] ( all words arranged herein this post are the copyright of lovealotbare and can be quoted with the appropriate citation "lovealotbare" and weblink to the original arrangement of words! ) | |
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I suggest you stop with the name calling and trolling. If I see anything or you get reported, I'll deal with you accordingly. You are on notice. | |
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i was snipped
You cowards
!!Yea right its called CENSORSHIP isnt that what you are supposodly whinning (fighting ) about? TWO not ONE threads i stated with a diffrent point of view about your ridiculous PFU were not only locked but dissapear completely | |
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violetblues said: [Name calling trolling baiting snip - luv4u]
I suggest you stop with the name calling and trolling. If I see anything or you get reported, I'll deal with you accordingly. You are on notice. the truth hurts doesnt it?  | |
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Anxiety said: JazzMeUp said: I'm sure Prince does not lack reasons for his behaviour.
He could be reacting against the concept of "fan" which clashes with his beliefs (i.e. that God must come first)... Or maybe he is simply trying to reclaim his own identity which he feels has been stolen, misinterpreted or disgraced by many. Who knows what we would do if we were in his position? From a distance, it seems easy to be famous and living the glamorous life, but at the end of the day we're all humans and we have to deal with our emotions, regardless of how rich or poor we are. Being rich does not protect someone from being emotionally or psychologically hurt. And as the saying goes: "Hurt people, hurt people". Having said that, it would be a real shame if this website had to be closed down, as I have met some great people through these forums... i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito. dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts. | |
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violetblues...are you purposely trying to get banned? | |
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Anxiety said: i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito.
dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts.  | |
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christos7 said: Anxiety said: i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito.
dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts. double- that's a great commentary! | |
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violetblues said: i was snipped
You cowards
!!Yea right its called CENSORSHIP isnt that what you are supposodly whinning (fighting ) about? TWO not ONE threads i stated with a diffrent point of view about your ridiculous PFU were not only locked but dissapear completely 1) duplicate threads of any topic will get locked. 2) name calling is against site rules...its not allowed, period. 3) we understand there are laws (rules) that we must follow on this site but prince's legal representation has crossed the line. 4) ummm....yeah. Space for sale... | |
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Anxiety said: JazzMeUp said: I'm sure Prince does not lack reasons for his behaviour.
He could be reacting against the concept of "fan" which clashes with his beliefs (i.e. that God must come first)... Or maybe he is simply trying to reclaim his own identity which he feels has been stolen, misinterpreted or disgraced by many. Who knows what we would do if we were in his position? From a distance, it seems easy to be famous and living the glamorous life, but at the end of the day we're all humans and we have to deal with our emotions, regardless of how rich or poor we are. Being rich does not protect someone from being emotionally or psychologically hurt. And as the saying goes: "Hurt people, hurt people". Having said that, it would be a real shame if this website had to be closed down, as I have met some great people through these forums... i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito. dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts. | |
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Anxiety said: JazzMeUp said: I'm sure Prince does not lack reasons for his behaviour.
He could be reacting against the concept of "fan" which clashes with his beliefs (i.e. that God must come first)... Or maybe he is simply trying to reclaim his own identity which he feels has been stolen, misinterpreted or disgraced by many. Who knows what we would do if we were in his position? From a distance, it seems easy to be famous and living the glamorous life, but at the end of the day we're all humans and we have to deal with our emotions, regardless of how rich or poor we are. Being rich does not protect someone from being emotionally or psychologically hurt. And as the saying goes: "Hurt people, hurt people". Having said that, it would be a real shame if this website had to be closed down, as I have met some great people through these forums... i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito. dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts. Does everyone really wear tennis shoes at the supermarket? I was there at lunchtime and I didn't notice. I will pay more attention next time (I really hate it when I miss out on a new trend). | |
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JazzMeUp said: Anxiety said: i understand the possibility of prince wanting to redirect the concept of having "fans" and not wanting to be idolized, but if that's his plan, then how is it okay to charge over $3,000 for a concert ticket? what's with all the glamorous megacelebrity post-awards parties? what's with the mythologized polyamorous twin concubine/lovers? for someone who wants to eschew idolatry, he sure knows how to act like elvis, howard hughes and liberace all wrapped up in one big campy burrito. dude needs to talk to cat stevens, patti smith and joni mitchell. these are people who actually walked away from fame for the sake of what was important to them - spirituality, family, sanity. he wants his ideals but he doesn't want to give up the superstar lifestyle. dude: if you wanna have a "normal" life, you're gonna have to learn how to put on a pair of tennis shoes and go to the damn supermarket like the rest of us - WITHOUT YOUR MAKEUP. just some thoughts. Does everyone really wear tennis shoes at the supermarket? I was there at lunchtime and I didn't notice. I will pay more attention next time (I really hate it when I miss out on a new trend). i wore snot-green jellies with taps last time i was at trader joes, but i had big pants on so i don't think anyone saw.  | |
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fuck perez hilton  he's just a little mess maker just love to stir up gossip he doesnt know what the fuck he s talking about | |
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fuchsy77 said: Well that little purple nazi can stop hating me from now on...
Don't get too upset with PRINCE, try to understand... Despite his immense musical talent the “short man” complex undoubtedly plays a huge factor in trying to control EVERYTHING. Being 1-2” shorter than the AVERAGE FEMALE must reek havoc on your psyche no matter how many women find you attractive or how much you can do musically. What he's doing is short sighted(no pun intended) but I'll still buy and admire his music | |
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Anxiety said: JazzMeUp said: Does everyone really wear tennis shoes at the supermarket? I was there at lunchtime and I didn't notice. I will pay more attention next time (I really hate it when I miss out on a new trend). i wore snot-green jellies with taps last time i was at trader joes, but i had big pants on so i don't think anyone saw. ouch.you just made my cheeks hurt from laughing so hard. i swear, you and imago are on a roll right now . posts like this are the key therein that brings so many of us back, time and time again | |
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Anxiety said: JazzMeUp said: Does everyone really wear tennis shoes at the supermarket? I was there at lunchtime and I didn't notice. I will pay more attention next time (I really hate it when I miss out on a new trend). i wore snot-green jellies with taps last time i was at trader joes, but i had big pants on so i don't think anyone saw. I'm confused now, could you please confirm what you meant earlier by "normal"? | |
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JazzMeUp said: Anxiety said: i wore snot-green jellies with taps last time i was at trader joes, but i had big pants on so i don't think anyone saw. I'm confused now, could you please confirm what you meant earlier by "normal"? if my definition of "normal" really means THAT much to you, then you're in my prayers. | |
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Anxiety said: JazzMeUp said: I'm confused now, could you please confirm what you meant earlier by "normal"? if my definition of "normal" really means THAT much to you, then you're in my prayers. No, it doesn't really, your post had just confused me a little that's all. But maybe you should start praying for this site instead. | |
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JazzMeUp said: Anxiety said: if my definition of "normal" really means THAT much to you, then you're in my prayers. No, it doesn't really, your post had just confused me a little that's all. But maybe you should start praying for this site instead. and maybe we all could use a good laugh once in a while. | |
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