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Reply #210 posted 10/01/07 11:38am

wonder505

SexyBeautifulOne said:

wonder505 said:



There are many fans who just DON'T CARE. Many fans are not fazed by the request to remove pics or images. Many fans' lives are not affected this, many fans just want to enjoy the music and a good show, and many fans believe there are more important things going on in this world to fight about.

If you choose to personalize this and include yourself in the battle (and you do make some valid points), then so be it, I support you, but don't drag others into this by assuming its about ALL FANS, because its not. This is not to downplay how you and others feel, but there is NO BATTLE between me and Prince. Now do I like what he's doing, hell no! Do I understand how everyone feels, hell yes! but um..like.. whatever.
[Edited 10/1/07 10:11am]


You're entitled to feel the way you do. As I'm entitled to feel the way I do.

I will say this though, while you're standing on the sidelines not wanting to ruffle any Royal feathers, know that those that aren't afraid to, in spite of it all, will be ruffling them for you too! cool


Its not about being "afraid" of anything, like I said, some just don't care or have more important things in their lives to deal with. but i do respect you and others for fighting for what you believe in.
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Reply #211 posted 10/01/07 11:42am

wonder505

tammie said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:



You're entitled to feel the way you do. As I'm entitled to feel the way I do.

I will say this though, while you're standing on the sidelines not wanting to ruffle any Royal feathers, know that those that aren't afraid to, in spite of it all, will be ruffling them for you too! cool


Some people in this forum are taking things too personal.
repeating themselves several times by saying not every fan gives a shit about what is happening.
If you do not care then why are you posting in this discussion.
In the end the people who care, as in the ones that are "ruffeling royal feathers" (love that one) hope to get somewhere with all of this.


Hold on a second. If anyone is taking things personal it is you by this response. Who the hell are you to question me why I'm here. I just stated a fact. No one said you had to agree with it.

I find this to be an interesting discussion, so I participate, but I'm not angry about it, there are folks like me who choose not to personalize this situation and its just not a big deal in my life. that's just me, so what? i still respect those to take a stance in what they believe in.
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Reply #212 posted 10/01/07 11:42am

Graycap23

I'm starting 2 get the feeling that all of this bickering is by design. I wonder what is REALLY going on here?
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Reply #213 posted 10/01/07 11:49am

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wonder505 said:[quote]

tammie said:



Some people in this forum are taking things too personal.
repeating themselves several times by saying not every fan gives a shit about what is happening.
If you do not care then why are you posting in this discussion.
In the end the people who care, as in the ones that are "ruffeling royal feathers" (love that one) hope to get somewhere with all of this.


Hold on a second! If anyone is taking things personal it is you by this response. Who the hell are you to question me why I'm here. I just stated a fact. No one said you had to agree with it. Who do you think you are?
(as you have the right to btw.)
I do not want to offend you in any way whatsoever.
In the end we are all here because we love Prince's music.
I am a person that does critize him when i feel the need to, we do not have to agree on everything

wink
we do not stop playing because we grow old , we grow old because we stop playing
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Reply #214 posted 10/01/07 11:52am

wonder505

tammie said:[quote]

wonder505 said:

tammie said:



Some people in this forum are taking things too personal.
repeating themselves several times by saying not every fan gives a shit about what is happening.
If you do not care then why are you posting in this discussion.
In the end the people who care, as in the ones that are "ruffeling royal feathers" (love that one) hope to get somewhere with all of this.


Hold on a second! If anyone is taking things personal it is you by this response. Who the hell are you to question me why I'm here. I just stated a fact. No one said you had to agree with it. Who do you think you are?
(as you have the right to btw.)
I do not want to offend you in any way whatsoever.
In the end we are all here because we love Prince's music.
I am a person that does critize him when i feel the need to, we do not have to agree on everything

wink


it's all good. i was just a little surprised at the response. i still hope the best for everyone, but i know its more complicated than that.
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Reply #215 posted 10/01/07 11:55am

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^
glad too
we do not stop playing because we grow old , we grow old because we stop playing
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Reply #216 posted 10/01/07 12:02pm

prettymansson

Prettymansson is in the mirror in a trench coat and Bikini Underwear
ever so gently applying black eyeliner and Mascara on..and staring at himself while repeatedly sayin...


C-O-N-T-R-O-V-R-S-Y !





*Actually im eating dinner and reading all this hostile juicy stuff..But the 1st scenario would be funny as hell lol !
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Reply #217 posted 10/01/07 12:03pm

Graycap23

babynoz said:



http://www.amazon.com/Hea...043590194X

If you haven't read it, enjoy.

B.

Good look.
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Reply #218 posted 10/01/07 12:07pm

Gav

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sosgemini said:

Gav said:



So you know how to secure pro-bono representation for a fan site being potentially sued for copyright infringment of photos that you also have on a website that you moderate, yet you don't provide any information other than a vague "I know someone that you don't know".

That's rather sad in my opinion sad


sad?...i don't know you...i don't hang out at hq...i have no vested interest and your tone here doesn't really make me want to jump up and down and help you...this ain't the org's battle. its hqs...and if the time comes when the org has to deal with sh*t then i would be more then happy to pull whatever resources to make sure that the org's rights are protected.


the funny thing is, i was hoping somebody would orgnote me and ask... rolleyes
now like i said, if you had engaged folks in a collaberative tone maybe i would feel compelled to help you out...instead, im rather annoyed...expecially after your above post...what the f*ck is that all about?


*the funny thing is, i was giving your arse a hint and instead you took it as a negative. class!!
[Edited 10/1/07 11:30am]


Sorry, my psychic powers aren't working too well. rolleyes

So basically because I didn't say "pretty please" you couldn't orgnote ME ?

Thanks for the collaborative efforts - I do hope Prince.org don't fall foul of the same fate at a later date.
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Reply #219 posted 10/01/07 12:12pm

DigMeNow

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Reply #220 posted 10/01/07 12:18pm

sosgemini

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Gav said:

sosgemini said:



sad?...i don't know you...i don't hang out at hq...i have no vested interest and your tone here doesn't really make me want to jump up and down and help you...this ain't the org's battle. its hqs...and if the time comes when the org has to deal with sh*t then i would be more then happy to pull whatever resources to make sure that the org's rights are protected.


the funny thing is, i was hoping somebody would orgnote me and ask... rolleyes
now like i said, if you had engaged folks in a collaberative tone maybe i would feel compelled to help you out...instead, im rather annoyed...expecially after your above post...what the f*ck is that all about?


*the funny thing is, i was giving your arse a hint and instead you took it as a negative. class!!
[Edited 10/1/07 11:30am]


Sorry, my psychic powers aren't working too well. rolleyes

So basically because I didn't say "pretty please" you couldn't orgnote ME ?

Thanks for the collaborative efforts - I do hope Prince.org don't fall foul of the same fate at a later date.


no, not pretty please...just you know, just talk to folks sans the assery..that would have been a nice start. and your still doing it.
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Reply #221 posted 10/01/07 12:19pm

DigMeNow

xenophobia2002 said:

some of you really don't get it.... it is a copyright thing, photos, videos, conertmaterial etc.

ofcourse The Org will be next. Lots of prince copyrighted material here as well, but The Org probably will say amen to the web sherrif and fullfil his wishes, while Housequake stood against it, based on law.
This has nothing to do with a US / Europe fan base, and moderators whom you like or not...if you think that, little do you know.



Xenophobia2002, is correct that it is about copyright infringement. Has anyone read what was posted at 3121, the story about Mark Twain and his fight for copyright laws? I don't see any mention of it in any of the forums here.

It really is a shame that people just can't get along,simply said....RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.
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Reply #222 posted 10/01/07 12:44pm

txladykat

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DigMeNow said:

xenophobia2002 said:

some of you really don't get it.... it is a copyright thing, photos, videos, conertmaterial etc.

ofcourse The Org will be next. Lots of prince copyrighted material here as well, but The Org probably will say amen to the web sherrif and fullfil his wishes, while Housequake stood against it, based on law.
This has nothing to do with a US / Europe fan base, and moderators whom you like or not...if you think that, little do you know.



Xenophobia2002, is correct that it is about copyright infringement. Has anyone read what was posted at 3121, the story about Mark Twain and his fight for copyright laws? I don't see any mention of it in any of the forums here.

It really is a shame that people just can't get along,simply said....RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.
[Edited 10/1/07 12:37pm]


hadn't see it since i dont go to 3121.com ...but will check out...could be interesting.
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Reply #223 posted 10/01/07 12:52pm

SMARTYSOFT

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DigMeNow said:

xenophobia2002 said:

some of you really don't get it.... it is a copyright thing, photos, videos, conertmaterial etc.

ofcourse The Org will be next. Lots of prince copyrighted material here as well, but The Org probably will say amen to the web sherrif and fullfil his wishes, while Housequake stood against it, based on law.
This has nothing to do with a US / Europe fan base, and moderators whom you like or not...if you think that, little do you know.



Xenophobia2002, is correct that it is about copyright infringement. Has anyone read what was posted at 3121, the story about Mark Twain and his fight for copyright laws? I don't see any mention of it in any of the forums here.

It really is a shame that people just can't get along,simply said....RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.
[Edited 10/1/07 12:37pm]



AMEN!
SHOULD WE JUDGE ANOTHER, LEST WE BE JUDGED TOO?
If I could be muse 2 the Pharoah......
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Reply #224 posted 10/01/07 1:44pm

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Gav said:

sosgemini said:



there are numerous organizations that promote free speech who would jump all over this case...for free.


Getting pro-bono reprepsentation is not as easy as you think sos.

If only life were that simple.


Gav,

I'd say your best course of action in this injustice would be to:

1. Relaunch Housequake as a text only forum, keep all the same topics. Nothing wrong with talking about bootlegs. Keep all photo and bootleg sharing private between members.

2. Reload Housequake with the Pirate Bay, keeping everything on Swedish servers, transfering ownership of the site "in name" to someone in Sweden. Therefore nothing on the site has to change.

3. Contact the media and make Prince look so bad in this that it destroys his career.

4. Find a lawyer who will challenge "team NPG" on this for free, like before. What happened to Alex Hahn?

You should post all the emails team NPG has sent you over the last three years, that would be hilarious to read, all their stupid requests. I should launch a fan site (f*ckprince.com) just to get in on the game and start getting requests!
"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?"
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Reply #225 posted 10/01/07 1:45pm

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"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?"
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Reply #226 posted 10/01/07 1:59pm

wonder505

lspear76 said:

Gav said:



Getting pro-bono reprepsentation is not as easy as you think sos.

If only life were that simple.


Gav,

I'd say your best course of action in this injustice would be to:

1. Relaunch Housequake as a text only forum, keep all the same topics. Nothing wrong with talking about bootlegs. Keep all photo and bootleg sharing private between members.

2. Reload Housequake with the Pirate Bay, keeping everything on Swedish servers, transfering ownership of the site "in name" to someone in Sweden. Therefore nothing on the site has to change.

3. Contact the media and make Prince look so bad in this that it destroys his career.

4. Find a lawyer who will challenge "team NPG" on this for free, like before. What happened to Alex Hahn?

You should post all the emails team NPG has sent you over the last three years, that would be hilarious to read, all their stupid requests. I should launch a fan site (f*ckprince.com) just to get in on the game and start getting requests!



What do you mean to destroy Prince's career?
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Reply #227 posted 10/01/07 1:59pm

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lspear76 said:


3. Contact the media and make Prince look so bad in this that it destroys his career.

As difficult as that would be to pull off, I don't think that HQ would really want to do that, as others have mentioned it basically exists to discuss and give coverage to Prince's career. I know lots of people are angry, sad, exasperated with all this but let's just see what Aaron et al decide after they have had a little break. Everyone's talking like Prince's team has won, to me it sounds like the attempted compromise just got a little out of hand that's all. (we Brits love understatement wink )
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #228 posted 10/01/07 2:34pm

txladykat

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lspear76 said:

Gav,

You should post all the emails team NPG has sent you over the last three years, that would be hilarious to read, all their stupid requests. I should launch a fan site (f*ckprince.com) just to get in on the game and start getting requests!



bad idea! believe it or not, those emails are copyrighted, and they know it.
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Reply #229 posted 10/01/07 2:42pm

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censored
I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon...
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Reply #230 posted 10/01/07 2:45pm

sosgemini

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txladykat said:

lspear76 said:

Gav,

You should post all the emails team NPG has sent you over the last three years, that would be hilarious to read, all their stupid requests. I should launch a fan site (f*ckprince.com) just to get in on the game and start getting requests!



bad idea! believe it or not, those emails are copyrighted, and they know it.


you can really copyright communication like that? does that mean we can copywright each of our blogs?

updated post: nevermind, i found this: http://www.ivanhoffman.com/rights.html
that means all you folks need to stop quoting me in your responses to my posts. lol
[Edited 10/1/07 14:48pm]
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Reply #231 posted 10/01/07 3:00pm

txladykat

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sosgemini said:

stuff


wink
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Reply #232 posted 10/01/07 3:00pm

txladykat

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saafiir said:



censored


i am so diggin this! lol
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Reply #233 posted 10/01/07 3:22pm

lspear76

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txladykat said:

lspear76 said:

Gav,

You should post all the emails team NPG has sent you over the last three years, that would be hilarious to read, all their stupid requests. I should launch a fan site (f*ckprince.com) just to get in on the game and start getting requests!



bad idea! believe it or not, those emails are copyrighted, and they know it.


Emails are not copyrighted information. That's ridiculous. This whole situation is ridiculous.
"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?"
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Reply #234 posted 10/01/07 3:56pm

Serena

wonder505 said:


he will alienate many, but your acting as if all of his fans are on HQ. He just wrapped up sold out shows in 21 nights overseas, people flew out to see him in Vegas, LA, Minneapolis and London. yeah,not bad for a guy who has been a loser for 10 years. i know what you mean, but you have to understand there are thousands of fans who simply don't care about all this. they just want to enjoy the music and go see a good show.
[Edited 9/30/07 11:26am]


It's really a wonder, Wonder, how you so often post my thoughts and say it in a better way too. thumbs up!
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Reply #235 posted 10/01/07 4:10pm

glt

sigh
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Reply #236 posted 10/01/07 5:12pm

babynoz

wonder505 said:

babynoz said:


If you haven't read it, enjoy. I'm out,.,Steelers kickoff in 5 minutes and my homemade vegetable curry noodle soup is almost done...talk soon.

B.


yummy! cool




Thanks sis...my team lost and I reeked of curry all day but that soup was GOOD!

I should make some for the next round of negotiations in this dispute...just imagine, things could go from this...



To this...



Everybody feels better after a nice bowl of soup!

So...who wants some? biggrin
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #237 posted 10/01/07 5:37pm

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lspear76 said:

txladykat said:




bad idea! believe it or not, those emails are copyrighted, and they know it.


Emails are not copyrighted information. That's ridiculous. This whole situation is ridiculous.

Of course emails can be copyrighted.

Of course, there are grounds for when copyrighted information can be copied.

But it's your suggestion to publish the emails that is ridiculous.
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Reply #238 posted 10/01/07 6:53pm

txladykat

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lspear76 said:

txladykat said:




bad idea! believe it or not, those emails are copyrighted, and they know it.


Emails are not copyrighted information. That's ridiculous. This whole situation is ridiculous.


actually, it is. read the copyright law. And if you can find any interpretation whatsoever that says it is not, then please show me where you found it. Not that I am worried, because you won't find it.

Copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work. Copyright law gives people the right to exclude others from copying what they have written
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Reply #239 posted 10/01/07 7:02pm

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...and to further that. the parties sending communications to housequake specifically claimed copyright and instructed not to publish the communications in the public. to do so at that point would get housequake into deep water. now, that isn't to say that you can't discuss the contents of the email, but you cannot copy the email itself or make it available for viewing in its entirety.
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