unique said:

udo said:

Do you think the poeple are properly aware of the facts, the situation, etc?

I was referring to the elite saying nay.

of course they aren't. they never are. and that's the problem with democracy. millions of people voting who don't have a fucking clue. however it's pretty clear that the majority don't want the country split up, and it's the uncertaintainty due to lack of facts from SNP and the yes brigade that helps drive that. lots of statements made of ridiculous schemes with nothing to say how they could possible acheive it, and other statements made about things they wish to do when those who have the real say in the matter say they won't be letting them do it, or it won't be like SNP lays out at least. it's the normal people who are the main ones saying no, not the elite

At least two things:

- Fossil fuels from the North sea

- 'The City'

Although the well output is dwindling the control over the income generated is an interesting issue.

That bankster place is taxing the country as a whole, breaking loose is a good thing.

The establishment is only projecting problems but there's plenty of ways to give Scottland more independence. How else did the other parts of the empire do similar stuff back in the days?

Y00t00b has interesting vids about the various different types of former empire states.

If you know that less control -a smaller state- improves the economy, then a small agile Scottland would have very good chances of establishing itself as a viable entity with independence of some sorts.

Now what were are the remaining tickets?

udo said:

unique said:

of course they aren't. they never are. and that's the problem with democracy. millions of people voting who don't have a fucking clue. however it's pretty clear that the majority don't want the country split up, and it's the uncertaintainty due to lack of facts from SNP and the yes brigade that helps drive that. lots of statements made of ridiculous schemes with nothing to say how they could possible acheive it, and other statements made about things they wish to do when those who have the real say in the matter say they won't be letting them do it, or it won't be like SNP lays out at least. it's the normal people who are the main ones saying no, not the elite

At least two things:

- Fossil fuels from the North sea

- 'The City'

Although the well output is dwindling the control over the income generated is an interesting issue.

That bankster place is taxing the country as a whole, breaking loose is a good thing.

The establishment is only projecting problems but there's plenty of ways to give Scottland more independence. How else did the other parts of the empire do similar stuff back in the days?

Y00t00b has interesting vids about the various different types of former empire states.

If you know that less control -a smaller state- improves the economy, then a small agile Scottland would have very good chances of establishing itself as a viable entity with independence of some sorts.

Now what were are the remaining tickets?

well that may be your opinion, but it's the opinions of those voting that count. and at the end of the day, independance isn't wanted by most people, so it's not going to happen. the world is very different now compared to years gone by. we live in an internet connected world instead of one that needs boats to get around. people can jump on a plane and chance countries in hours instead of days. there has been a huge change in the world in the last 15 years from the internet alone

Anybody in the queue yet?

23 i see!

Hazza said:

Hazza said:

good luck to them, wonder how many tix r on open sale?

Can somebody at the venue confirm to me that tickets will be available at the door for the 22nd as well?

(I have updated this post to the corrected info)

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I have been talking to someone in que and they said this:-

Tix for people at the door will go on sale at 7pm

There are two ques, one for door tix and one for the online tix.

There were over 30 people in the que from 7:30am.

It will be the same situation tomorrow.

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[Edited 2/21/14 2:25am]

AlphabetS said:

Good morning. It would be appreciated if those in queue would send updates throughout the day. I will arrive in Manchester about 4pm and am trying to be positive and that I will have a chance to get in. Updates on confirmed number of tickets on door would also be very helpful. Anyone there now?

Whitnail said:

Well, according to my GF, (who is much younger than me, and loves the Foo Fighters and QOTSA) Prince is glam rock, and yes, I have made a mental note to go to the health centre to find the drugs that fit that prescription.

On that rather unhelpful note, I wish all of you in the Q, a happy and funky day/night, tear it up Manchester, Bambi needs a twin...

WetDream said:

AlphabetS said:

Whitnail said:

So you there? What's queue like?

I am not in the Q...

mikeyaddict said:

Good luck to u hardy souls waiting out - starting work early today so I can knock off early so just arrived in Bolton. At least it looks like a clear day, even if that means it may be a little cold! …and despite out bitching and moaning at times I think us on the org should all be very proud of ourselves! Looking at discussions over the last weeks it has struck me that we are a great bunch of people! Big up everyone and I hope that everyone is able to get in! I pray if not he does a second who for u!

Amen to that!

Who here is going to the show tomorrow?

WetDream said:

I have been talking to someone in que and they said this:-

Tix for people at the door will go on sale at 10am.

There is no seperate que for people with tix.

There were over 30 people in the que from 7:30am.

It will be the same situation tomorrow.

[Edited 2/21/14 0:02am]

Is this confirmed? I have a ticket for tonight but friend is desperate for one, I could leave work and be there in 15 mins if they are onsale at 10am? or if anyone could buy me one in the queue I would happy come straight away and pay them?

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ecnirp98 said:

WetDream said:

I have been talking to someone in que and they said this:-

Tix for people at the door will go on sale at 10am.

There is no seperate que for people with tix.

There were over 30 people in the que from 7:30am.

It will be the same situation tomorrow.

[Edited 2/21/14 0:02am]

Is this confirmed? I have a ticket for tonight but friend is desperate for one, I could leave work and be there in 15 mins if they are onsale at 10am? or if anyone could buy me one in the queue I would happy come straight away and pay them?

[Edited 2/21/14 1:41am]

I just phoned the Academy and explained I had to leave work if they go on sale at 10am, so he went and checked and said they will not be onsale until 19:00, they would not confirm how many tickets are availble. Good luck to everyone queuing !

[Edited 2/21/14 2:00am]

ecnirp98 said:

What we thinking the chances are of an Aftershow if he is only doing the one gig?

DeadlyGoldfish said:

ecnirp98 said:

I just phoned the Academy and explained I had to leave work if they go on sale at 10am, so he went and checked and said they will not be onsale until 19:00, they would not confirm how many tickets are availble. Good kuck to everyone queuing !

The guy at the front of the queue is @jaycochrane1983, he's done his own ticketing line system and the queue is on the left of the venue entrance on right, he's doing updates from there so follow him for info. He's been there since last night!!

Cheers, I saw the pic he tweeted with the 3 wristbands!

fnksoul said:

Heading down from Bolton around 3. i am soooh excited!!!!!

WetDream said: