ecnirp98 said:

DeadlyGoldfish said:

ecnirp98 said: The guy at the front of the queue is @jaycochrane1983, he's done his own ticketing line system and the queue is on the left of the venue entrance on right, he's doing updates from there so follow him for info. He's been there since last night!!

Cheers, I saw the pic he tweeted with the 3 wristbands!

yeah saw that, my hat comes off to the guy, been there since yesterday evening it seems, Dedication

ecnirp98 said:

WetDream said:

I have been talking to someone in que and they said this:-

Tix for people at the door will go on sale at 10am.

There is no seperate que for people with tix.

There were over 30 people in the que from 7:30am.

It will be the same situation tomorrow.

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Is this confirmed? I have a ticket for tonight but friend is desperate for one, I could leave work and be there in 15 mins if they are onsale at 10am? or if anyone could buy me one in the queue I would happy come straight away and pay them?

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I'm just passing on info shared with me. As always, it is not 100%. Could be the venue misinforming him or vice versa.

EDIT: The guy i am speaking to has confirmed that they will be going on sale at 7pm and that he was misinformed by staff

EDIT 2: It is now indeed TWO ques.

[Edited 2/21/14 2:22am]

WetDream said:

ecnirp98 said:

Is this confirmed? I have a ticket for tonight but friend is desperate for one, I could leave work and be there in 15 mins if they are onsale at 10am? or if anyone could buy me one in the queue I would happy come straight away and pay them?

[Edited 2/21/14 1:41am]

I'm just passing on info shared with me. As always, it is not 100%. Could be the venue misinforming him or vice versa.

EDIT: The guy i am speaking to has confirmed that they will be going on sale at 7pm and that he was misinformed by staff

EDIT 2: It is now indeed TWO ques.

[Edited 2/21/14 2:22am]

Yep, lots of smoke and mirrors going on, not having a go at anyone for posting what they hear, just informing people of what I was told incase anyone was considering making the mad rush from work like me !

ecnirp98 said:

WetDream said:

I'm just passing on info shared with me. As always, it is not 100%. Could be the venue misinforming him or vice versa.

EDIT: The guy i am speaking to has confirmed that they will be going on sale at 7pm and that he was misinformed by staff

EDIT 2: It is now indeed TWO ques.

[Edited 2/21/14 2:22am]

Yep, lots of smoke and mirrors going on, not having a go at anyone for posting what they hear, just informing people of what I was told incase anyone was considering making the mad rush from work like me !

Aye. Same here. I just think, what would i want to know and read here to make an informed decision? So i asked about it to a guy who is in the que on Facebook and shaed it all here to help ease people like me.....it's just a shame it ain't always right!

Any locals got any parking tips for (relatively) close to the venue?

WetDream said:

ecnirp98 said:

Yep, lots of smoke and mirrors going on, not having a go at anyone for posting what they hear, just informing people of what I was told incase anyone was considering making the mad rush from work like me !

Aye. Same here. I just think, what would i want to know and read here to make an informed decision? So i asked about it to a guy who is in the que on Facebook and shaed it all here to help ease people like me.....it's just a shame it ain't always right!

So if it's 2 queues, I'd be surprised if they open doors for ticketed people and people purchasing at the same time, so I am guessing people who buy tickets on the door will then have to go and join the queue of people with tickets who started queuing before the doors open?

Checking of ID against ticket is going to take time as well, if they do it, my friend bought my ticket so I'm taking allsorts of authorisations to prove she has transferred the ticket to me.

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I bought tickets off Seatwave, but I'm now terrified I won't get in because I don't have any ID that matches the name on the ticket... help! Any suggestions??

Jen2005 said:

I bought tickets off Seatwave, but I'm now terrified I won't get in because I don't have any ID that matches the name on the ticket... help! Any suggestions??

My view on this is if they enforce the ID checks there will be a lot of people outside very upset. I would expect there will be alot of trouble as a result.

If they had done it as ticketless entry (needing the card and ID as the only way to gain access) from the start it would be fine, everyone would know the score and it's nearly impossible for touts to benefit from such a system. The system they chose is open to abuse, has been abused and while touts are scum the venues can do alot more to prevent it.

Jen2005 said:

fnksoul said:

You need a written letter from the person who bought the ticket staying your name, their name, last 4 digits of the card used and signed

Easy enough to fabricate on the spot. (just need the four figures if they indeed can check those)

fnksoul said:

Jen2005 said:

I bought tickets off Seatwave, but I'm now terrified I won't get in because I don't have any ID that matches the name on the ticket... help! Any suggestions??

You need a written letter from the person who bought the ticket staying your name, their name, last 4 digits of the card used and signed

I don't have that card information though - Seatwave seems to be completely anonymous? I don't think there's any way of contacting the individual...

Hope everyone manages to get in ok and has fun.

stupid double post

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Jen2005 said:

fnksoul said:

Jen2005 said: You need a written letter from the person who bought the ticket staying your name, their name, last 4 digits of the card used and signed

I don't have that card information though - Seatwave seems to be completely anonymous? I don't think there's any way of contacting the individual...

call seatwave as they sold you the ticket. thats what their customer service is for

I've just spoken to some minion on the phone at the box office help desk, and she made it very clear that if photo ID did not match the name on the ticket then the ticket would be invalid and you would not be allowed into the venue.

She said it was to'protect' fans from ticket touts - when I argued that I was a fan who would lose a lot of money if the venue did not allow me in, she just kept saying the same thing over and over (obviously reading from a script).

Don't know what to do... the Manchester Academy website only added the photo ID requirement yetsreday - I bought the Seatwave tickets on Wednesday night!!

Don't know what to do...

Jen2005 said:

fnksoul said:

For anyone not in manchester yet...... It's raining!

Isn't it always?

LOTS of fans will have taken the desperation route and bought from the resell sites like Seatwave......... I dont think they'll turn them all away, cos there will be a lot of PISSED OFF ANGRY people at the doors if they do. Dont leave until you ALL get in. You have as much right to be there as others. Its the touts and resell sites that need punishing, not honest genuine fans who have spent hundreds to get in.

SomethingForKate said:

These are e-tickets right? Change the name on e-ticket before printing, or use a photo-editing tool if it's not straight forward. I've done this before for other shows and it's never a problem but if they're checking names against Ids, you need to make them match somehow! Good luck y'all! SFK

This situation with the Tickets is flawed to the max, at the end of the day, the only winners are the touts? If they buy tickets to sell, and sell them at a higher price, only Fans who want to be there will pay it, The touts get paid, the "Fan" woudlnt get entry, its not rocket science that the only winner will be the touts weather they stop that person getting in or not. Its a joke,

I have a written letter from the person who bought my ticket, the bank card, and Photo id of them (Only a cost co card haha but still has a photo on) If i dont get in im going to be seriously pissed.

fnksoul said:

SomethingForKate said:

These are e-tickets right? Change the name on e-ticket before printing, or use a photo-editing tool if it's not straight forward. I've done this before for other shows and it's never a problem but if they're checking names against Ids, you need to make them match somehow! Good luck y'all! SFK

This situation with the Tickets is flawed to the max, at the end of the day, the only winners are the touts? If they buy tickets to sell, and sell them at a higher price, only Fans who want to be there will pay it, The touts get paid, the "Fan" woudlnt get entry, its not rocket science that the only winner will be the touts weather they stop that person getting in or not. Its a joke,

I have a written letter from the person who bought my ticket, the bank card, and Photo id of them (Only a cost co card haha but still has a photo on) If i dont get in im going to be seriously pissed.

I dont think they can now enforce this. IF at the time of sale they made it clear that an ID was required etc etc then there would have been no secondary market. They cant suddenly change the rules after a couple of days. Once 50 people start kicking off then I dont see that this will work.

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Thats what Im predicting. I think the new policy introduced yesterday will make people think twice and poss stop buying from resell sites from now on. But if people show up with tickets and no photo ID or purchase card, it's totally unfair not to let them in.

Just had a generic email from Seatwave saying that they will refund the tickets if we can't get entry because the Manchester Academy policy has changed.

Why the hell couldn't they insist on photo ID from the beginning when tickets went on sale instead of deciding the day before when people have already bought tickets at huge prices elsewhere?! This does not help or protect fans. Cock-up!!

slimeyc said:

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I dont think they can now enforce this. IF at the time of sale they made it clear that an ID was required etc etc then there would have been no secondary market. They cant suddenly change the rules after a couple of days. Once 50 people start kicking off then I dont see that this will work.

[Edited 2/21/14 3:46am]

Exactly, plus, as much as i hate touts who prey on fans, they also do alot of fans a favour, the sale the other night, unless you were at home refreshing pages and things you wouldnt have had a clue about, loads will have missed out, so will have to do to them for tickets, they give people another chance of going, yeah probably fleecing them, but if the person is willing to pay it (I have done in the past for other artists) then why shouldnt they go?

Jen2005 said:

Just had a generic email from Seatwave saying that they will refund the tickets if we can't get entry because the Manchester Academy policy has changed.

Why the hell couldn't they insist on photo ID from the beginning when tickets went on sale instead of deciding the day before when people have already bought tickets at huge prices elsewhere?! This does not help or protect fans. Cock-up!!

My suggestion is everyone tweet Kiran, wether you have a ticket bought by yourself or not ,enough people tweet she might put something out to confirm ok, and the more who can the better? Plus if shes getting alot of negative tweets it doenst look great on them. https://twitter.com/KIKITkiran

Jen2005 said:

Just had a generic email from Seatwave saying that they will refund the tickets if we can't get entry because the Manchester Academy policy has changed.

Why the hell couldn't they insist on photo ID from the beginning when tickets went on sale instead of deciding the day before when people have already bought tickets at huge prices elsewhere?! This does not help or protect fans. Cock-up!!

I agree, stating at purchase time that photo ID was required for entry at time of purchase would have put off allot of touters, also, would have killed the sell on market as people would known it was a big risk to buy a ticket from companies like seatwave etc, Glastonbury do a system like this.

Also, limit tickets sales to 1 or 2 per person, so fans had a chance to buy tickets, rather than all being sold quickly in bulk orders of 4 and resold later. This all smells of last minute panicking sending emails to purchasers, changing T&C after sale is something I think they would struggle to defend legally.

A couple of hundred fans with tickets and not allowed in at 7pm is gonna be a recipe for trouble.

[Edited 2/21/14 3:59am]

SomethingForKate said:

These are e-tickets right? Change the name on e-ticket before printing, or use a photo-editing tool if it's not straight forward. I've done this before for other shows and it's never a problem but if they're checking names against Ids, you need to make them match somehow! Good luck y'all! SFK

I'd be careful editing the name manually, a name can be inserted into a bar code (but I doubt they will do this - I work with scanning guns in IT), my advice would be try the original first, have an edited print out as backup to use later if refused entry ....

ecnirp98 said:

SomethingForKate said:

These are e-tickets right? Change the name on e-ticket before printing, or use a photo-editing tool if it's not straight forward. I've done this before for other shows and it's never a problem but if they're checking names against Ids, you need to make them match somehow! Good luck y'all! SFK

I'd be careful editing the name manually, a name can be inserted into a bar code (but I doubt they will do this - I work with scanning guns in IT), my advice would be try the original first, have an edited print out as backup to use later if refused entry ....

Yeah thats what i thought, contemplated it myself, but the ticket doesnt have the last 4 digits of the card used so Id imagine if it is scanned some info comes up to show this?