dodger said:

divas21212 said:

I think people will be queuing from very early to get the best spots/door tickets, we can't all get there till 6.30ish, I think wherever you are in the venue the atmosphere & gig will be awesome, I'm so excited. I'll be on the balcony but still think it'll be great from up there

I was actually wondering if there is a balcony. Is it a decent size? I may try n get up there myself

udo said:

unique said:

which will be never in our lifetime

Depends on who you ask.

Most of the naysayers are too scared of democracy.

how would you know that? and who are the naysayers? the simple fact is that most people in scotland don't want independance. most people want to remain part of the uk and want what is known as devo max - which is basically scotland staying part of the uk but having more control over finances etc within scotland. however that's not an option for voters. however a minority of people are still stubborn headedly trying to persuade others to vote for independance without having planned things out properly, and having a load of empty promises without having any plans to make them happen. so naturally most people are against those ludicrous ideas and plan to vote against independence. and democracy will rule and the UK will remain intact. the people who don't want to follow alex salmonds ill though out plans are happy that democracy will rule. i don't think many who are thinking of voting yes as scared of democracy as they seem to crazy they think they will get their way

divas21212 said:

dodger said:

I was actually wondering if there is a balcony. Is it a decent size? I may try n get up there myself

It's just for disabled and their companions I'm afraid....I was quite worried when I originally thought we were all going to have to que due to the reports of pushing and surges as I'm on crutches and was in two minds weather to bother so this has turned out absolutely perfect for me

Just a warning to those not familiar with Manchester who are going to the shows on Friday and Saturday night, the location of the gig Manchester Academy is near a pretty rough side of Manchester, Moss Side.

So yeah, just making people aware.

dodger said:

divas21212 said:

It's just for disabled and their companions I'm afraid....I was quite worried when I originally thought we were all going to have to que due to the reports of pushing and surges as I'm on crutches and was in two minds weather to bother so this has turned out absolutely perfect for me

I'm sure my grandads got some old crutches I can lend for the night

If people were queing already, wouldn't there be some evidence on the Org or tweets by now?

Angelsoncrack said:

Just a warning to those not familiar with Manchester who are going to the shows on Friday and Saturday night, the location of the gig Manchester Academy is near a pretty rough side of Manchester, Moss Side.

So yeah, just making people aware.

Haha, in the official tour thread I made a wisecrack likening Manchester to a South American crime ridden favela. Might be nearer the truth than I expected.

Angelsoncrack said:

wickyb said:

Angelsoncrack said:

Just a warning to those not familiar with Manchester who are going to the shows on Friday and Saturday night, the location of the gig Manchester Academy is near a pretty rough side of Manchester, Moss Side.

So yeah, just making people aware.

It's slap bang in the middle of studentville. Not a rough area at all

You've obviously never been there when the bars ran out of beer.

TheEnglishGent said:

wickyb said:

Angelsoncrack said: It's slap bang in the middle of studentville. Not a rough area at all

You've obviously never been there when the bars ran out of beer.

Moss Side and Salford are pretty much full of Gangs and guns, just giving a warning out to people who are having to walk through these areas late at night. Dodgy as hell.

I've been to many gigs in the Academy and never had a problem, then again i didn't really wonder about

My is mate going to be passing the academy in the next few mins so he's going to let me know whether there really are people queueing already.

colouritin said:

Ppenguin said:

colouritin said:

I'm trying to decide when is best to get there? I finish work (in Liverpool) at 3, might head straight there. Any idea how long the other shows lasted? Trying to best time my return coach!

Varies between 90 minutes and 2.5hrs so far

Brilliant, thanks. 12.30 home is my best bet then, got knows what time it will start

NO ONE is queing outside the Academy or the box office. I live 5 minutes away (walking) and I've just checked.

dandan said:

NO ONE is queing outside the Academy or the box office. I live 5 minutes away (walking) and I've just checked.

so can you tell us what the best pub thats closest is, thanks

unique said:

dandan said:

unique said:

dandan said:

NO ONE is queing outside the Academy or the box office. I live 5 minutes away (walking) and I've just checked.

so can you tell us what the best pub thats closest is, thanks

The venue is on Oxford Road which is basically the heart of the student quater in Manchester and there are countless bars all the way down it.

colouritin said:

SomethingForKate said:

fnksoul said:

HELP needed!! So I'd left my bank card at work last night and had to use someone else's card! And just received an email stating the person who's name appears on the card must bring photo ID! I honestly don't think I can pass as a woman! What do I do?

Wow, I don't know. Probably best to ring the venue and ask for their advice. Hope you can sort it out!

dandan said:

colouritin said:

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barneyboy said:

Angelsoncrack said: TheEnglishGent said: You've obviously never been there when the bars ran out of beer. Moss Side and Salford are pretty much full of Gangs and guns, just giving a warning out to people who are having to walk through these areas late at night. Dodgy as hell. Its nowhere near moss side! PS Salford is 90% a safe area. Its on bloomin Oxford road!!! A busy street with shops and student bars, its completely safe!!!! I dont know where you got your info from.

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Mostly my dad, seen as he grew up in Manchester.

And I'm just saying, in case anyone has to walk through Moss Side to get to hotels/etc its better to get a taxi. I'm aware thar Manchester Academy is in studentland haha.

If anyones intersted I'm planning on queing from around 7am tomorrow to get tickets on the door