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I don't think Dorf is the issue here....Prince's people told Dorf that he was going to perform on Thursday (I got an email from Dorf's folks stating that P was a sure bet to appear)....Once the Tweet went out, that place got REALLY packed....
So Dorf had nothing to do with making P show up because he (Dorf) somehow misled the public....
The "mess" that you alluded to came about because a Prince affiliated act (NPG) was selling high priced tickets for a series of gigs that usually comes when said act is of a superstar level....Novice fans paying $200 plus for those shows were not there for Shelby and company...They were there because, right or wrong, they expected Prince to perform....
BTW...Prince was pretty fucking dope that night...Smiling and in good spirits.... | |
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We went last night and I must say we were rather disappointed. Not so much because Prince did not show up, we did not think he would, I'm just not sure why the band was called NPG? I did not recognize one musician up there and I've seen the real NPG many times. There were a ton of horn players and they were all decent but no one really stood out. Same for the entire band. It seemed like a soul/funk revue that you would see at a wedding or at a casino. Shelby and Liv were ok but you can see why they are backup singers. And who exactly were the "special guests"? We did not see any. When they finished abruptly most thought that another set was going to be played with some guests but all we got was this awful dj mixing Prince songs with Beyonce and other lousy music. All in all it was basically a waste of time and $80. I'm really surprised that Prince would attach his name to something as mediocre as this. | |
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It's called npg to get prince fans to spend their money in hopes to see prince play... Drain ur pockets in the name of the ALMIGHTY PRINCE ... I hope he does a real US tour and plays some in DALLAS TX ... P.S. NO SHELBY just The purple Afro headed Yoda | |
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jjazznola said:We went last night and I must say we were rather disappointed. Not so much because Prince did not show up, we did not think he would, I'm just not sure why the band was called NPG? I did not recognize one musician up there and I've seen the real NPG many times. There were a ton of horn players and they were all decent but no one really stood out. Same for the entire band. It seemed like a soul/funk revue that you would see at a wedding or at a casino. Shelby and Liv were ok but you can see why they are backup singers. And who exactly were the "special guests"? We did not see any. When they finished abruptly most thought that another set was going to be played with some guests but all we got was this awful dj mixing Prince songs with Beyonce and other lousy music. All in all it was basically a waste of time and $80. I'm really surprised that Prince would attach his name to something as mediocre as this. is this the friday nite shjow that prince was a noshow at thanks [Edited 8/24/13 10:14am] | |
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jjazznola said:We went last night and I must say we were rather disappointed. Not so much because Prince did not show up, we did not think he would, I'm just not sure why the band was called NPG? I did not recognize one musician up there and I've seen the real NPG many times. There were a ton of horn players and they were all decent but no one really stood out. Same for the entire band. It seemed like a soul/funk revue that you would see at a wedding or at a casino. Shelby and Liv were ok but you can see why they are backup singers. And who exactly were the "special guests"? We did not see any. When they finished abruptly most thought that another set was going to be played with some guests but all we got was this awful dj mixing Prince songs with Beyonce and other lousy music. All in all it was basically a waste of time and $80. I'm really surprised that Prince would attach his name to something as mediocre as this. is this the friday nite shjow that prince was a noshow at thanks [Edited 8/24/13 10:19am] | |
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Yes it is Friday night's show that they are talking about. It's interesting too because I suppose someone might get confused by the NPG not being the NPG. Then again, the NPG always changes. But casual fans might not know that. The price was too high, but then again they probably had to give at least some money to the 25 or so people on stage. | |
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3rdeyedude said: paperposter said: jjazznola said:We went last night and I must say we were rather disappointed. Not so much because Prince did not show up, we did not think he would, I'm just not sure why the band was called NPG? I did not recognize one musician up there and I've seen the real NPG many times. There were a ton of horn players and they were all decent but no one really stood out. Same for the entire band. It seemed like a soul/funk revue that you would see at a wedding or at a casino. Shelby and Liv were ok but you can see why they are backup singers. And who exactly were the "special guests"? We did not see any. When they finished abruptly most thought that another set was going to be played with some guests but all we got was this awful dj mixing Prince songs with Beyonce and other lousy music. All in all it was basically a waste of time and $80. I'm really surprised that Prince would attach his name to something as mediocre as this. is this the friday nite shjow that prince was a noshow at thanks Yes it is Friday night's show that they are talking about. It's interesting too because I suppose someone might get confused by the NPG not being the NPG. Then again, the NPG always changes. But casual fans might not know that. The price was too high, but then again they probably had to give at least some money to the 25 or so people on stage. thanks .npg is doing a free show i belive its brrolyn tonight i belive at 8.15 pm with afro jack. wounder what the people who payed 300$ will get sunday [Edited 8/24/13 10:45am] | |
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I know NPG changes but these seemed like all new musicians. The only one is knew was Ryan waters who plays with Sade not Prince. He hasn't even used another guitarist in a while except for Donna. | |
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I guess the question is: when Dorf's folks sent you that email - saying P was a sure bet to appear - was it written so that "appear" seemed like "perform"? Big difference. Not sure from which end this misunderstanding arose.P.S. If he doesn't play on Sunday, a lot of people will be upset, I think. Though that was risk they took. I still think the whole concept (especially the high ticket prices) was a mistake, and I partly blame Dorf and City Winery. | |
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Does anyone believe or have any info about Prince and/or NPG playing The Afropunk Fest in Brooklyn tonight? | |
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hey paperposter - it is kinda hard to read your posts - are you just cutting and pasting and then adding your reply to the very last sentence? just curious because I almost couldn't find what you had typed | |
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Again...I think people's beef (if they have one) should be with Prince and his team...Not City Winery....
There was no misunderstanding in terms of Dorf and his team...By the first shows it was obvious it was an NPG gig (from the website to the billing), with special guests...One such special guest was Alice Smith who basically blew the NPG vocalists off the stage....
That Prince announcement was dropped the same night of the Thursday NPG show...It was Tweeted it out that night...And the fans came out in droves....AND PRINCE ACTUALLY PERFORMED....I think u r confusing things....It was NOT announced that Prince would perform on Friday...Or even this upcoming Sunday....Ya dig?
Again, the real issue is P and his team thinking that novice fans would be cool with dropping all of that money to see his backup singers....It's no wonder that they thought Prince was coming on Friday (which again, was never promoted that way)...They expected it because of the high ticket prices...
The Winery wrote that letter to let fans know to NOT TO EXPECT PRINCE TO SHOW UP JUST BECAUSE HE CAME OUT THURSDAY.....
Because, you know, that's what fans expect from Prince and his team if they are charging rates that platinum artists rarely charge for small clubs....
But yeah...I expected this foolishness as soon as I saw those crazy ticket prices...lol
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Hi There. I too was at the show last night (Friday) and I can tell you Wednesdays show was a million times better. Last night was odd but I'm not sure why. The crowd to me also seem subdued compared to the high energy audience we experienced on Wednesday. I did like te solos the horn players did. Also the arrangments of the songs may have been a factor, but like I said, Wednesday, everything was perfect. | |
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Isn't Dorf the dude that used profanity on the last Spreecast? He called the devout Jehovah Witness Prince a Mf'er! 4 not showing up @ the tribute 4 him @ Carnegie Hall benefit concert last Mar. I thought it was very inappropriate. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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I believe the correct statement was that Michael Dorf has been inviting Prince to Ciy Winery over the past number of years and Prince (he jokingly said "mfer) never showed up. | |
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3rdeyedude said: hey paperposter - it is kinda hard to read your posts - are you just cutting and pasting and then adding your reply to the very last sentence? just curious because I almost couldn't find what you had typed It's something that happend sometimes with the reply editor. Have it 50% of the time. | |
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Sorry Mods, forgot. I can't go back and edit that post to delete the link and other associated band members pics that are on my post. Can you delete the link and the contents of my post altogether, and where anyone else replied to it? Thank you appreciate it. [Edited 8/24/13 19:49pm] | |
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Oh ok! Maybe I misunderstood him.... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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2elijah said:
Sorry Mods, forgot. I can't go back and edit that post to delete the link and other associated band members pics that are on my post. Can you delete the link and the contents of my post altogether, and where anyone else replied to it? Thank you appreciate it. [Edited 8/24/13 19:49pm] R u not even allowed 2 post photos or images or Prince on here anymore?! When did this rule come in2 force? Like no photos of him at all?? | |
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Yes, Wednesday's show was better, audience response wise, moreso because I think on Friday, many who came to that show probably thought Prince was going to show up, and I'm just basing that on the conversations I heard from some fans standing on line outside the winery, and within while the show was going on. However, that also could be due to the vague advertisement and misinformation some fans read on different twitter pages, and elsewehere, where little hints and clues were being confused for a possibility he may show up, and some fans will take that unconfirmed info and run with it.
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What about the beautiful talented Cassie?? will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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I said the whole band worked hard, and yes including Cassie. I couldn't really see Cassie on stage during Wednesday's show, because her keyboard was blocking my view. On Friday, as I was standing on the far right side of stage, so couldn't see her at all, but heard her sing a little more, than she did on Wednesday. So it's all good, she did her part, and like I said, that band works hard, and I enjoyed both shows. I didn't make any plans to attend tonight's show, because I'm worn out just from the two I attended, , so those going, have a great time!
Oh and despite what I stated in my previous post, I have to give a shoutout and thanks to the entire NPG band, especially Liv and Shelby J, for coming to NYC and giving us their best. I appreciate all of them and their talent. They have so much energy, they could roll it up in a candy bar and sell it.
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I must find that song!!!! Why Do you Lie is killin!!!!!!
What's the other song where the horn players serenaded her with the vocoder? I love it.
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I feel in love with Liv's voice when I heard her riff on the Dakota boots duriing 3EG set on Dreamer and She's always inmh hair..Killin it | |
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Yes it is. I think that song you're asking about is 'I decided' | |
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Nothing compared to seeing her sing/perform live though. She has a very, sultry sound. She doesn't hold back. Like I said, she's the new Betty Davis, without a doubt. Liv Warfield--The funk/soul and blues rock Queen. No need to say 'Amen', she already earned that. [Edited 8/25/13 11:33am] | |
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"Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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Well I guess that's good to hear. We all agreed that Friday night was not very good and it was a waste of money. I can't imagine Prince using that band for his own shows. The women are decent singers but are not very unique at all. And again, where were the "special guests"? They needed someone to change thing up. And what was up with that ending? They just kinda stopped playing and that terrible dj started spinning. I guess you live and learn. [Edited 8/25/13 14:09pm] | |
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Awesome song. I just bought it. Now wondering if she released "Why do you lie?" and where can I find it. | |
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