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Thread started 10/22/12 11:21pm

Pokeno4Money

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Is it ever okay for a man to punch a female?

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhTq85Q0SUro3x38mr

Seems like the majority of the people on the bus were happy that the older bus driver clocked the 25-year-old female after she spit on him and hit him. Most of the people who have commented are supportive of the bus driver, too.

Personally I think the guy was wrong for doing what he did, it's not like he was ever in danger of being seriously hurt. If I was in his shoes, I would have definitely kicked the female off the bus. But punch her in the head with a vicious uppercut? No, too excessive.

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Reply #1 posted 10/23/12 12:35am

AsherFierce

If a woman steps up to you like she a man, like if she's trying to be Michaela Tyson or some ish. then yeah. Don't start shit won't be shit. That applies to everybody male or female. smile

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Reply #2 posted 10/23/12 1:57am

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I not going to watch this because I already know how this is going to go down and I know it involves"us". I don't want hear any silliness because I'm Black. The level of violence, the knee jerk reaction to insults or folks talking shit gets a lot people killed in our community. Before this silly women ever spat on this bus driver or laid a hand on him, he should've called into dispatch to document what was going on and sought the assistance of law enforcement. Unless his life was in danger — and I doubt it — he should kept his mouth closed and allowed this woman to rant and rave until power authorities came. Riding public transportation isn't a right it is a privilege.

This all could've gone horribly wrong for both parties. When he hit her , she could've fallen and struck her head on an object or the blow of his hit could've caused more serious harm. Self-defense is allowed only when your life is immediate danger, I doubt his life was. Spitting, slapping anyone for any reason is about the lowest form of depravity, I can only imagine his outrage. Instead of some people recording this they should 've been using their phones to call law enforcement. Pathetic.

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Reply #3 posted 10/23/12 4:26am

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If you put your hands on me, male or female, Imma beat the shit out of you

End of story

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Reply #4 posted 10/23/12 4:32am

RodeoSchro

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A young man struck my daughter not too long ago.

Since then, it has not gone well for either him or his father. That's all I'm going to say.

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Reply #5 posted 10/23/12 4:52am

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It's not ok for anyone to punch anyone, unless it's legitimate self-defence.

I don't understand the whole it's ok to hit a man but not a woman.

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Reply #6 posted 10/23/12 5:18am

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JustErin said:

It's not ok for anyone to punch anyone, unless it's legitimate self-defence.

I don't understand the whole it's ok to hit a man but not a woman.

I totally agree.

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μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #7 posted 10/23/12 5:23am

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Lammastide said:

JustErin said:

It's not ok for anyone to punch anyone, unless it's legitimate self-defence.

I don't understand the whole it's ok to hit a man but not a woman.

I totally agree.

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Reply #8 posted 10/23/12 5:48am

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TD3 said:

I not going to watch this because I already know how this is going to go down and I know it involves"us". I don't want hear any silliness because I'm Black. The level of violence, the knee jerk reaction to insults or folks talking shit gets a lot people killed in our community. Before this silly women ever spat on this bus driver or laid a hand on him, he should've called into dispatch to document what was going on and sought the assistance of law enforcement. Unless his life was in danger — and I doubt it — he should kept his mouth closed and allowed this woman to rant and rave until power authorities came. Riding public transportation isn't a right it is a privilege.

This all could've gone horribly wrong for both parties. When he hit her , she could've fallen and struck her head on an object or the blow of his hit could've caused more serious harm. Self-defense is allowed only when your life is immediate danger, I doubt his life was. Spitting, slapping anyone for any reason is about the lowest form of depravity, I can only imagine his outrage. Instead of some people recording this they should 've been using their phones to call law enforcement. Pathetic.

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Don't worry, this is a gender issue, not a race issue

White women physically assault men just the same

I've watched shows like Judge Judy and I was surprised at the number of women who think it's ok to sue a man who hit her, just to find out she hit him first

Judge Judy 100% of the time rips the women open and the man wins the case

1.) Men are strong Women are weak

2.) Men don't have feelings

3.) Men are harder to kill

My mother told us at an early age "as we entered school like 4 5 6 grades, that you don't put your hands on anyone, except to defend yourself. Followed by other guidelines about it being ok to run, and get to someone in authority asap. But she also said, She did not take care of our skin and to have some girl scratch our faces, so if a girl tries to attack you, you don't put your hands on her you take something in your hand and knock her down. And then come tell me about it. She said because girls think it's ok to hit boys but boys aren't supposed to hit girls. And that's the truth

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Reply #9 posted 10/23/12 6:00am

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tinaz said:

Lammastide said:

I totally agree.

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Add one more to the mix. Punching anyone other than in self defense is never OK.

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Reply #10 posted 10/23/12 6:08am

uPtoWnNY

Depends on the situation. I doubt I'd hit a woman who spits or hits me (she'd wind up with serious damage). Like Chris Rock said, I'd shake the shit out of her.

However, if she's stupid enough to come at me with a weapon, it's all over for her.

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Reply #11 posted 10/23/12 6:36am

Dave1992

This really is an interesting question.

Obviously, I think it should never be "okay" to phisically attack anyone (even if they attacked you first). Ideally, you would look for another way to deal with it (even in situations where there seems to be no other way).

Realistically, though, it would be a lot to expect anyone to contain (rightful) anger and still act rationally and keep it to themselves. I have lit a lot of people in my younger years, even though I always knew it wasn't okay to do so.

When it comes to women, there have been one or two instances where I really felt like I was dealing with a complete idiot, a complete moron who is provoking the fact they knew I probably wasn't going to hit them just because they are female. What was I going to do? I simply went away, making myself look as if I was afraid or running away from her. Looking back, I'm proud because it was the right decision and I do not care about "looking weak" to her, but sometimes I do with I would have put her back into her place, so that she would never ever behave like that again and it would be a lesson learned.

In an extreme situation, where I feel like I can't control my anger anymore, I'd probably do the following: expose her and show her that I am physically much stronger and that she's fucking with the wrong guy, grab her so that she can't move, push her against a wall, look into her eyes and slowly tell her that I will fuck her to pieces if she doesn't get off me. If that doesn't work I'd probably push her to the ground.

But throw a punch? I don't think I could.

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Reply #12 posted 10/23/12 7:18am

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There definitely is a double standard.

It's 2012 and supposedly we're striving for "gender equality"...at home, at school, in the workplace, etc.

Then, some women feel like they can step up in anger to a man like an equal, but not deal with the consequences. When the retribution is REAL (like in the video) then all of a sudden we're back to 1950's gender roles and a man "shouldn't hit a woman".

shrug

Or - (somewhat related?) what about women who get off on provoking fights between their boyfriend/spouse and other dudes??? Women who will go to a club with their man and then flirt/tease a stranger so that the two of them get into a fight? How is THAT not stone-age mentality???

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Reply #13 posted 10/23/12 7:29am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Depends on the situation. I doubt I'd hit a woman who spits or hits me (she'd wind up with serious damage). Like Chris Rock said, I'd shake the shit out of her.

However, if she's stupid enough to come at me with a weapon, it's all over for her.

shaking, would fall under the same heading of assault

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Reply #14 posted 10/23/12 7:30am

Dave1992

PurpleJedi said:

There definitely is a double standard.

It's 2012 and supposedly we're striving for "gender equality"...at home, at school, in the workplace, etc.

Then, some women feel like they can step up in anger to a man like an equal, but not deal with the consequences. When the retribution is REAL (like in the video) then all of a sudden we're back to 1950's gender roles and a man "shouldn't hit a woman".

shrug

Or - (somewhat related?) what about women who get off on provoking fights between their boyfriend/spouse and other dudes??? Women who will go to a club with their man and then flirt/tease a stranger so that the two of them get into a fight? How is THAT not stone-age mentality???

While I think you're spot-on with your reasoning, I think the main reason behind (my take on) this "don't hit women" stance (which I share) stems rather from the "spare the weak" attitude.

I wouldn't hit a woman just like I wouldn't hit a child, just because in most cases they are ridiculously weak and it would feel embarrassing and simply dispensable to hit them. shrug

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Reply #15 posted 10/23/12 7:33am

breese

I'm a on the fence. It would be far preferable that this sort of thing never happens.

On the other hand, tolerance of people acting that way is part of why our society is crumbling.

It's good to see that, if you act pure ghetto, there's immediate and unmistakable consequence.

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Reply #16 posted 10/23/12 7:33am

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Dave1992 said:

PurpleJedi said:

There definitely is a double standard.

It's 2012 and supposedly we're striving for "gender equality"...at home, at school, in the workplace, etc.

Then, some women feel like they can step up in anger to a man like an equal, but not deal with the consequences. When the retribution is REAL (like in the video) then all of a sudden we're back to 1950's gender roles and a man "shouldn't hit a woman".

shrug

Or - (somewhat related?) what about women who get off on provoking fights between their boyfriend/spouse and other dudes??? Women who will go to a club with their man and then flirt/tease a stranger so that the two of them get into a fight? How is THAT not stone-age mentality???

While I think you're spot-on with your reasoning, I think the main reason behind (my take on) this "don't hit women" stance (which I share) stems rather from the "spare the weak" attitude.

I wouldn't hit a woman just like I wouldn't hit a child, just because in most cases they are ridiculously weak and it would feel embarrassing and simply dispensable to hit them. shrug

nod

hmmm So then...if a dude smaller/weaker than you came up to your face and spit on you and hit you...would you also not hit back?

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Reply #17 posted 10/23/12 7:35am

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breese said:

I'm a on the fence. It would be far preferable that this sort of thing never happens.

On the other hand, tolerance of people acting that way is part of why our society is crumbling.

It's good to see that, if you act pure ghetto, there's immediate and unmistakable consequence.

I agree.

Our society places little value on "respect" nowadays.

...and it goes both ways.

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Reply #18 posted 10/23/12 7:37am

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Dave1992 said:

PurpleJedi said:

There definitely is a double standard.

It's 2012 and supposedly we're striving for "gender equality"...at home, at school, in the workplace, etc.

Then, some women feel like they can step up in anger to a man like an equal, but not deal with the consequences. When the retribution is REAL (like in the video) then all of a sudden we're back to 1950's gender roles and a man "shouldn't hit a woman".

shrug

Or - (somewhat related?) what about women who get off on provoking fights between their boyfriend/spouse and other dudes??? Women who will go to a club with their man and then flirt/tease a stranger so that the two of them get into a fight? How is THAT not stone-age mentality???

While I think you're spot-on with your reasoning, I think the main reason behind (my take on) this "don't hit women" stance (which I share) stems rather from the "spare the weak" attitude.

I wouldn't hit a woman just like I wouldn't hit a child, just because in most cases they are ridiculously weak and it would feel embarrassing and simply dispensable to hit them. shrug

Most of the women I know aren't that weak!

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Reply #19 posted 10/23/12 7:40am

Dave1992

PurpleJedi said:

Dave1992 said:

While I think you're spot-on with your reasoning, I think the main reason behind (my take on) this "don't hit women" stance (which I share) stems rather from the "spare the weak" attitude.

I wouldn't hit a woman just like I wouldn't hit a child, just because in most cases they are ridiculously weak and it would feel embarrassing and simply dispensable to hit them. shrug

nod

hmmm So then...if a dude smaller/weaker than you came up to your face and spit on you and hit you...would you also not hit back?

Ideally I wouldn't, no. Now, I don't know if I'd have the self-control I would want myself to have in a moment like that, but I would definitely think more often about hitting him than about hitting a dude at least as strong as me. shrug

edit: The problem is, things like that hardly ever happen to me. I'm so skinny, it would be very unlikely to meet a dude who's even skinnier! smile

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Reply #20 posted 10/23/12 7:41am

Dave1992

breese said:

Dave1992 said:

While I think you're spot-on with your reasoning, I think the main reason behind (my take on) this "don't hit women" stance (which I share) stems rather from the "spare the weak" attitude.

I wouldn't hit a woman just like I wouldn't hit a child, just because in most cases they are ridiculously weak and it would feel embarrassing and simply dispensable to hit them. shrug

Most of the women I know aren't that weak!

So you're a Fat-Fighters coach then? smile

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Reply #21 posted 10/23/12 7:50am

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PurpleJedi said:

There definitely is a double standard.

It's 2012 and supposedly we're striving for "gender equality"...at home, at school, in the workplace, etc.

Then, some women feel like they can step up in anger to a man like an equal, but not deal with the consequences. When the retribution is REAL (like in the video) then all of a sudden we're back to 1950's gender roles and a man "shouldn't hit a woman".

shrug

Or - (somewhat related?) what about women who get off on provoking fights between their boyfriend/spouse and other dudes??? Women who will go to a club with their man and then flirt/tease a stranger so that the two of them get into a fight? How is THAT not stone-age mentality???

oh of course

I've seen movies, current movies and shows where a woman punches(they don't slap as much anymore) they punch in the face their boyfriend, husband etc and it's like cheered "independant woman power" but if that was the opposite it would be "violence against women"

right, it's this back in forth that I have to compartmentalize and things like 'holding a door open for a woman' because they are weak? which is where that comes from

The other day I was going into Barns & Nobles and there was a younger woman that had come thru the 1st door and saw me and stopped, waited for me to open the incoming door and stepped thru, she had nothing in her arms... And I just tripped out on that

I will hold a door for elderly people M or F, I will hold the door for children, for people who have stuff in their arms/hands, and possibly for a woman I think is cute(chivalry, trying to get noticed, maybe a date) but not for just anyone

there are all these things that stem from the same place

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Reply #22 posted 10/23/12 7:53am

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JustErin said:

It's not ok for anyone to punch anyone, unless it's legitimate self-defence.

I don't understand the whole it's ok to hit a man but not a woman.

yeahthat

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Reply #23 posted 10/23/12 7:53am

breese

Dave1992 said:

breese said:

Most of the women I know aren't that weak!

So you're a Fat-Fighters coach then? smile

lol Close, I live in Wisconsin!

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Reply #24 posted 10/23/12 7:54am

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Dave1992 said:

PurpleJedi said:

nod

hmmm So then...if a dude smaller/weaker than you came up to your face and spit on you and hit you...would you also not hit back?

Ideally I wouldn't, no. Now, I don't know if I'd have the self-control I would want myself to have in a moment like that, but I would definitely think more often about hitting him than about hitting a dude at least as strong as me. shrug

edit: The problem is, things like that hardly ever happen to me. I'm so skinny, it would be very unlikely to meet a dude who's even skinnier! smile

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lol

Basically what you're saying is that you're not a bully. Whish is awesome.

However, there are women out there who could probably wipe the floor with you (or most men) and not break a nail.

So (just to keep this conversation going)...would you throw a punch at a woman who's clearly of equal or greater physical composure/level?

Because that's the gist of this topic. Is hitting a woman simply because she is a woman "bad".

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Reply #25 posted 10/23/12 7:56am

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If u should have the audacity to launch your bodily fluids upon me, that ass is getting whooped.

Than U

That is all!

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Reply #26 posted 10/23/12 7:58am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PurpleJedi said:

There definitely is a double standard.

It's 2012 and supposedly we're striving for "gender equality"...at home, at school, in the workplace, etc.

Then, some women feel like they can step up in anger to a man like an equal, but not deal with the consequences. When the retribution is REAL (like in the video) then all of a sudden we're back to 1950's gender roles and a man "shouldn't hit a woman".

shrug

Or - (somewhat related?) what about women who get off on provoking fights between their boyfriend/spouse and other dudes??? Women who will go to a club with their man and then flirt/tease a stranger so that the two of them get into a fight? How is THAT not stone-age mentality???

oh of course

I've seen movies, current movies and shows where a woman punches(they don't slap as much anymore) they punch in the face their boyfriend, husband etc and it's like cheered "independant woman power" but if that was the opposite it would be "violence against women"

right, it's this back in forth that I have to compartmentalize and things like 'holding a door open for a woman' because they are weak? which is where that comes from

The other day I was going into Barns & Nobles and there was a younger woman that had come thru the 1st door and saw me and stopped, waited for me to open the incoming door and stepped thru, she had nothing in her arms... And I just tripped out on that

I will hold a door for elderly people M or F, I will hold the door for children, for people who have stuff in their arms/hands, and possibly for a woman I think is cute(chivalry, trying to get noticed, maybe a date) but not for just anyone

there are all these things that stem from the same place

nod

I am polite to everyone...men, women, children...and the whole "hold the door open" mindset is lost nowadays. I was at Dunkin Donuts the other day...a woman comes in and there's another woman pushing a stroller right behind her. The first woman walks in and lets the door slam shut behind her.

disbelief

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Reply #27 posted 10/23/12 7:59am

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illimack said:

If u should have the audacity to launch your bodily fluids upon me, that ass is getting whooped.

Than U

That is all!

Welll...unless she's cute...and the mood is right...

razz

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Reply #28 posted 10/23/12 8:00am

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breese said:

I'm a on the fence. It would be far preferable that this sort of thing never happens.

On the other hand, tolerance of people acting that way is part of why our society is crumbling.

It's good to see that, if you act pure ghetto, there's immediate and unmistakable consequence.

yeah, but that has never been in the history of the human race

I agree, I wouldn't even call it ghetto, because in the "Wild West" that's how it was handled too lol

it really a more recent thing, maybe last 20yrs that people being allowed to get away with stuff like that has been ok

I will go back to Judge Judy, I've seen many cases where her judgement ended in, "You hit first(M/F) and you got your tooth knocked out, now you want the court to make you whole? Chalk it up to life lesson, You can't put your hands on someone else!!!"

I do think (just like with bullies) people handled the offending party, a lesson is learned and it may stop, other than that, turning the other cheek just teaches them to continue on

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For Dave:

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