vainandy said:

HotGritz said:

good question. I guess its not only age related but speaks to emotional maturity. If you are single and say 40 or 50 then I'd expect the number to be high and by high I mean the number of partners would equal half your age assuming you had a different lover each year since becoming an adult. If you indeed had a different lover for every year of your adulthood e.g. you are 36 and you've had 18 lovers in 18 years then I'd wonder about your emotional maturity and stability. Why have you not taken a break and tried to make a committment?

NOw we could flip this around. What if you had 15 sex partners in a weekend but were pretty much celibate throughout most of your life? There are soooo many ways to look at this.

Asking how many sex partners is too many is basically asking what makes a person a whore.

The only year I counted the men was when I first came out of the closet at age 22. I had 23 that year alone (one number higher than my age at the time). Each year after that, I had more and more until a dry spell in the late 1990s. In the 2000s when I had lost a lot of weight, I made up for lost time and started having threesomes, foursomes, and sometimes even fivesomes. Hell, I stopped even asking their name and if they tried to tell me, I'd tell them..."Your name ain't what I'm interested in". That went on until around 2007 and now I'm back in a dry spell again. But I have been an absolute whore and have loved every minute of it.

because gay men have no purpose other than that...

Dren5 said:

I know a lot of people say it doesn't matter to them but to me it definitely does and it's a definite deal breaker.

I think how many people you've slept with, says something about how much you value yourself and the sexual act as well.

I wouldn't want to be with someone that looks at it as, "It's just fucking".

No fuckin' way.

Because if they say that, that means they will cheat on you,

vainandy said:

HotGritz said:

still tryna wrap my head around these dry spells....so called.

The first dry spell was adjusting from working a night shift for nine years to working a day shift and not being able to stay out at all hours of the night because I wouldn't be able to wake up the next morning. Plus I was tired of the whole scene in the black club due to shit hop and it's dull presence.

I lost a lot of weight in the year 2001 and started feeling my oats again. A friend told me that all the older black gay people and black gay people that had even an ounce of class, no longer went to the black gay club anymore and they went to the white gay club which played trance (which was horrible but it was at least tolerable) and no shit hop which had driven everyone out of the black gay club and all that remained was little youngsters that looked like thugged out Romper Roomers. Well, shit hop has now just about taken over the white gay club also and combine that with the rediculous new law that you can no longer smoke cigarettes in nightclubs, it's just as dull in the white club also. Hell, I simply stay at home on weekends now and play some good music. However, you don't get no dick by staying home. Why do you think I hate and despise shit hop as much as I do. It's not just because it sounds horrible, you can't get no dick these days because of it unless you want to sit there and be in the same room with the bullshit and I just can't stand being in the same room with it.

Here's some footage from one of the black gay clubs (we have two of them now)....

Oh wait until this big heffer gets warmed.

It makes for great comedy but just imagine a whole evening of bullshit music that sounds like this.

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[Edited 4/24/12 10:41am]

that's someone who just might get fucked, but will be left alone for shame of what just happened.

i thought the question was about sex PANTHERS.

can't never have too many panthers.

OldFriends4Sale said:

vainandy said:

The first dry spell was adjusting from working a night shift for nine years to working a day shift and not being able to stay out at all hours of the night because I wouldn't be able to wake up the next morning. Plus I was tired of the whole scene in the black club due to shit hop and it's dull presence.

I lost a lot of weight in the year 2001 and started feeling my oats again. A friend told me that all the older black gay people and black gay people that had even an ounce of class, no longer went to the black gay club anymore and they went to the white gay club which played trance (which was horrible but it was at least tolerable) and no shit hop which had driven everyone out of the black gay club and all that remained was little youngsters that looked like thugged out Romper Roomers. Well, shit hop has now just about taken over the white gay club also and combine that with the rediculous new law that you can no longer smoke cigarettes in nightclubs, it's just as dull in the white club also. Hell, I simply stay at home on weekends now and play some good music. However, you don't get no dick by staying home. Why do you think I hate and despise shit hop as much as I do. It's not just because it sounds horrible, you can't get no dick these days because of it unless you want to sit there and be in the same room with the bullshit and I just can't stand being in the same room with it.

Here's some footage from one of the black gay clubs (we have two of them now)....

Oh wait until this big heffer gets warmed.

It makes for great comedy but just imagine a whole evening of bullshit music that sounds like this.

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[Edited 4/24/12 10:41am]

that's someone who just might get fucked, but will be left alone for shame of what just happened.

Dont think she worries about the shame of anything!

tinaz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

that's someone who just might get fucked, but will be left alone for shame of what just happened.

Dont think she worries about the shame of anything!

Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!

It's been my experience in talking or listening to people that want to get it on when where and however they want to get it on- is that they kinda don't care, and shame is not a factor in their reality. They sorta have their own truth, drive, and motivations that aren't always the same as everyone else's

LadyCasanova said:

Dren5 said:

I know a lot of people say it doesn't matter to them but to me it definitely does and it's a definite deal breaker.

I think how many people you've slept with, says something about how much you value yourself and the sexual act as well.

I wouldn't want to be with someone that looks at it as, "It's just fucking".

No fuckin' way.

Practice makes perfect and I'm sure Micheal Jordan didn't use the same ball everytime...

...okay...stop talking about playing with balls...you just ruined my ability to concentrate at work for the rest of the day.

Yup. I'm done. Going home now.

starkitty said:

i thought the question was about sex PANTHERS.

can't never have too many panthers.

tinaz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

that's someone who just might get fucked, but will be left alone for shame of what just happened.

Dont think she worries about the shame of anything!

no not her, the people that fucked her, after they orgasm the shame comes in and the walk or run of shame takes place

Ottensen said:

tinaz said:

Dont think she worries about the shame of anything!

Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!

It's been my experience in talking or listening to people that want to get it on when where and however they want to get it on- is that they kinda don't care, and shame is not a factor in their reality. They sorta have their own truth, drive, and motivations that aren't always the same as everyone else's

oh there is shame their, or just no conscious

that woman in that video has a low self esteem, she's needy for affection and attention and since she doesn't believe a man or woman will give what she needs, she does this.

And I mean shame on the part of the person who had sex with her. Like a John

OldFriends4Sale said:

CallMeCarrie said:

lol yeah I know, but that signature isn't about sex. Even though sex may have have a part. It's about character and expressing yourself. That's why as a 14yr old who wasn't having sex yet that line always spoke to me, it spoke to me as an artist and a son who was raised by a father that taught us a multiracial identity and to be individuals and not go with the flow of what's in.(that last one was hard sometimes, especially when it came to buying clothes) He'd always say "you could be the person that starts a fashion trend" when he didn't want to by my that pair of suede adidas

I'm define myself as a bohemian. I LOVE pleasure, but I'm also responsible and informed: Sex food drink sleep music art conversation and any combination.

Careless and a lot of random sex has put a lot of people in the grave the poor house or just jaded. I agree with your 2nd paragraph. I love to totally go 100% with another person. Real honest sex focuses you on the other person. You could spend a lifetime expoloring sex with someone. I'll be 40 June 5th and I've learned the Quality will always outweigh Quantity. You can never really focus on 10 people, most people have a problem with 2.

I would say if a person has a pattern of having sex too soon and it ends and that is a regular thing, then that person does have a problem. I have a female friend who is 41 this year never married and 1 child. Beautiful Latina/Black woman intelligent etc but she is going thru a hard emotional time because she does want a LTR, she wants to be married. But she has that problem of introducing sex way too soon. And it happens over and over. I'm not even saying she is having 10 partners a year. But I believe it show a lack of respect for her body (and child) and the men even though they may go there, their breaking it off shows they don't 'respect her' as well. It does show a lack of maturity.

I think a lot of people aren't mentally and emotionally ready for sex. Most people seem to have the idea of jumping in there and hopefully everything else will catch up.

No I don't think if a person is having a lot of sex they are whoring themselves BUT that has a lot to do with who/why/where etc There are people who drop standards to get some, people who lie to get some, people who cheat to get some and only a few who are honest about it.

Random sex is sex with someone you don't know. That to me is on the lines of whoring.

Hook-Up websites, sex adds, Craigslist, anonymous sex.

There are a lot of things people don't consider when they are horny. STDs & HIV rates are not going down. Way too many people are having abortions or having babys because they don't approach sex respectfully which in turn means they are not respecting their bodies.

I think even people 'assume' because it's Prince that he's having a lot of sex all the time. I think he had more sex/sex offers at certain times, and I also think (and he said it in an interview in 1984/85) he's not doing all that people think he is. Everytime we see Prince with a woman we think they are banging. I don't believe 100% that Prince & Misty were having sex.

I want to make sure we are talking about the same thing. The number of sexual relationships over time vs. the number of sexual partners happening at one time. I bolded the statement that makes me wonder if you are talking about having more than one partner at a time. That's not what I've been giving my opinion about, FWIW.

Regarding your friend, I guess we disagree. I don't know her, so she may very well have her issues, but I don't think that that the timing of sex is a problem necessarily (caveat - as long as the 2 people involved are emotionally stable). I don't care if she has sex with someone within hours of meeting him. She isn't disrespecting herself. She may very well feel an honest connection with him. And I think that you shouldn't have preconceived notions about what is proper. If you are in a good place mentally and you aren't being decieved by the other person, then I think it is ok to go with your gut. I don't think it disrespects you if that relationship doesn't turn out how you wanted it to. Hell - even if you wait months/years/until you are married to have sex, there is a good chance the relationship won't work out. Granted, you and I are about the same age, and I wouldn't be saying this if I was 20 years younger, because it does take some growing up in order to know yourself and to read others' intentions. As a 20 year old, I might judge a girl that has sex on the first date. As a 37 year old, I don't.

So I guess a person can look at sex as being a gift that should only be given if you are certain a relationship will work. (Naive IMO)

Or you can look at is a way to express a connection you feel with another person. And you *know* when you feel that connection (it could be minutes/days/months), so truly even if the "relationship" doesn't last, you can still appreciate the moment(s) that you shared.

Whatever, though. Everyone is allowed to decide what's right for them. I'm content with who I am. I think I would have a hard time being with someone who doesn't have enough maturity/insight/experience to know when it is ok to go with what just feels right.

Anyways thanks for the conversation.

OldFriends4Sale said:

it's the circumstances.

there are people who for various reasons whore themselves. A lot of it is loneliness, needing affection the wrong way, trying to prove something, sexual addictions commitment fears and issues and some people are just plain nasty etc

Like some have said, it depends on the age.

People in my opinion who have lots of random sex, in my opinion don't respect their bodies and they don't respect sex.

when I think about it....most (not all) but most of the people that I personally know who behave that way, will sleep with anybody under the sun, have "issues". Not being selective, but just giving into the initial physical attraction...and sometimes just doing it seeking 'fun" seems sad to me. They also tended to be the same people who ended up addicted to substances......

OldFriends4Sale said:

LadyCasanova said:

Practice makes perfect and I'm sure Micheal Jordan didn't use the same ball everytime...

wow your comparing a woman to a basketball?

Just the easy way you did that, shows a lack of respect for sex

Honey, you are getting at the wrong woman with that response. As a woman who received an all

women's higher education and fought for the sexual and reproductive rights of women in a number of countries

you, who I believe may be male and therefore an ally, do not have the power to tell me how

I view women or how I define being a feminist.

For your information, the comparision I was making was not to women but rather the subject being practiced with, be they female,male or not identified. The fact that your mind

automatically jumped to the subjugation of women says something about the way you subconsciously view women, or, what it means to be a woman.

You also lack the power to define sexual relationships for anyone other than yourself.

What is respect for sex? You say it as if there is some universal truth to the matter or an

intrinsic value to sex ITSELF.

Sexual practices are not one in the same across time or space, so don't pretend otherwise.

Your view is just that, your individual opinion that only YOU are responsible for upholding.

The ease of my response was due to my wish to be light about this subject because I understand

and respect that not everyone feels the same way about sex. This *points to the text above* is

what I didn't want to get into. You are not the moral authority on sex so do not presume to tell

me my own feelings, or of the lack of "respect" I, in your ignorant opinion, have for sex.

[Edited 4/26/12 22:37pm]

PurpleJedi said:

LadyCasanova said:

Practice makes perfect and I'm sure Micheal Jordan didn't use the same ball everytime...

...okay...stop talking about playing with balls...you just ruined my ability to concentrate at work for the rest of the day.

Yup. I'm done. Going home now.

Your balls, my mouth?

Sounds like a date to me

People have VERY different approaches and feelings about sex. There are some lines that I would not cross if its not me, and that is okay....but like a beautiful pair of stillettos......just cuz I cant walk in them and I start tripping all over the damn place, it doesn't mean that somebody else can't rock them. I can look and be happy for somebody else looking fab, and totally have no desire to wear them damn shoes. (and no, this is NOT an invitation to makethis a shoe thread )

StillGotIt said:

People have VERY different approaches and feelings about sex. There are some lines that I would not cross if its not me, and that is okay....but like a beautiful pair of stillettos......just cuz I cant walk in them and I start tripping all over the damn place, it doesn't mean that somebody else can't rock them. I can look and be happy for somebody else looking fab, and totally have no desire to wear them damn shoes. (and no, this is NOT an invitation to makethis a shoe thread )

1) Is that an invitation to talk about voyeurism?

2) I feel the same way about anal sex in porn

LadyCasanova said:

PurpleJedi said:

...okay...stop talking about playing with balls...you just ruined my ability to concentrate at work for the rest of the day.

Yup. I'm done. Going home now.

Your balls, my mouth?

Sounds like a date to me

LadyCasanova said:

StillGotIt said:

People have VERY different approaches and feelings about sex. There are some lines that I would not cross if its not me, and that is okay....but like a beautiful pair of stillettos......just cuz I cant walk in them and I start tripping all over the damn place, it doesn't mean that somebody else can't rock them. I can look and be happy for somebody else looking fab, and totally have no desire to wear them damn shoes. (and no, this is NOT an invitation to makethis a shoe thread )

1) Is that an invitation to talk about voyeurism?

2) I feel the same way about anal sex in porn

Be careful about extending this conversation into XXX

LadyCasanova said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

wow your comparing a woman to a basketball?

Just the easy way you did that, shows a lack of respect for sex

Honey, you are getting at the wrong woman with that response. As a woman who received an all

women's higher education and fought for the sexual and reproductive rights of women in a number of countries

you, who I believe may be male and therefore an ally, do not have the power to tell me how

I view women or how I define being a feminist.

For your information, the comparision I was making was not to women but rather the subject being practiced with, be they female,male or not identified. The fact that your mind

automatically jumped to the subjugation of women says something about the way you subconsciously view women, or, what it means to be a woman.

You also lack the power to define sexual relationships for anyone other than yourself.

What is respect for sex? You say it as if there is some universal truth to the matter or an

intrinsic value to sex ITSELF.

Sexual practices are not one in the same across time or space, so don't pretend otherwise.

Your view is just that, your individual opinion that only YOU are responsible for upholding.

The ease of my response was due to my wish to be light about this subject because I understand

and respect that not everyone feels the same way about sex. This *points to the text above* is

what I didn't want to get into. You are not the moral authority on sex so do not presume to tell

me my own feelings, or of the lack of "respect" I, in your ignorant opinion, have for sex.

[Edited 4/26/12 22:37pm]

get off your high horse and stop having a fit, we are typing in cyberspace so I don't know what your intent is.

And we are talking about SEX, if you want to really talk about basketballs then go talk about basketballs. But when you bring phrases and thoughts into a discussion about sex partners be PREPARED to have others read it as such.

Don't you go jumping on the high horse and saying "My mind went there" what the fuck are we talking about?? SEX And you know you were talking about sex and practicing with many partners...

What does me having power have anything to do with anything.

So if a woman replied the same, it would be ok?

If you put a thought out there, don't get offended if someone replies.

If you put your ideas out there, in this discussion EXPECT for people to have a response or don't get involved if your feeling are this easily stirred up.

StillGotIt said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

it's the circumstances.

there are people who for various reasons whore themselves. A lot of it is loneliness, needing affection the wrong way, trying to prove something, sexual addictions commitment fears and issues and some people are just plain nasty etc

Like some have said, it depends on the age.

People in my opinion who have lots of random sex, in my opinion don't respect their bodies and they don't respect sex.

when I think about it....most (not all) but most of the people that I personally know who behave that way, will sleep with anybody under the sun, have "issues". Not being selective, but just giving into the initial physical attraction...and sometimes just doing it seeking 'fun" seems sad to me. They also tended to be the same people who ended up addicted to substances......

I know or have known some people like that too.

I don't believe in sharing my sexual fantasies with strangers or multiple people.

Trust Health Safety are very important.

There was a study about women who were molested and it said they sexually tend to be mostly 'frigid' or 'loose' especially when you see young girls or teens acting out sexually, that's not normal. I would say it's probably the same with boys/males.

I read something similar about men who are secretly homosexual. I mean younger males like in the teens, who start to have a lot of sex with females. And it's a way of 'proving' they are not homosexual.

I have a general concern in a topic like this for peoples individual safety health happiness, but when it can affect society or children then mine/peoples sexual practices are a problem. HIV STDs unwanted pregnancies which leads to more government intervention which can mean higher taxes, children in unhealthy situations from poor - rich. the HIV numbers in our societies are not going down... and yes various kinds of substance abuse can be attached.

OldFriends4Sale said:

LadyCasanova said:

Honey, you are getting at the wrong woman with that response. As a woman who received an all

women's higher education and fought for the sexual and reproductive rights of women in a number of countries

you, who I believe may be male and therefore an ally, do not have the power to tell me how

I view women or how I define being a feminist.

For your information, the comparision I was making was not to women but rather the subject being practiced with, be they female,male or not identified. The fact that your mind

automatically jumped to the subjugation of women says something about the way you subconsciously view women, or, what it means to be a woman.

You also lack the power to define sexual relationships for anyone other than yourself.

What is respect for sex? You say it as if there is some universal truth to the matter or an

intrinsic value to sex ITSELF.

Sexual practices are not one in the same across time or space, so don't pretend otherwise.

Your view is just that, your individual opinion that only YOU are responsible for upholding.

The ease of my response was due to my wish to be light about this subject because I understand

and respect that not everyone feels the same way about sex. This *points to the text above* is

what I didn't want to get into. You are not the moral authority on sex so do not presume to tell

me my own feelings, or of the lack of "respect" I, in your ignorant opinion, have for sex.

[Edited 4/26/12 22:37pm]

get off your high horse and stop having a fit, we are typing in cyberspace so I don't know what your intent is.

And we are talking about SEX, if you want to really talk about basketballs then go talk about basketballs. But when you bring phrases and thoughts into a discussion about sex partners be PREPARED to have others read it as such.

Don't you go jumping on the high horse and saying "My mind went there" what the fuck are we talking about?? SEX And you know you were talking about sex and practicing with many partners...

What does me having power have anything to do with anything.

So if a woman replied the same, it would be ok?

If you put a thought out there, don't get offended if someone replies.

If you put your ideas out there, in this discussion EXPECT for people to have a response or don't get involved if your feeling are this easily stirred up.

1) If you go back and read what I said about this, I never denied that i was talking about sex

partners, i only denied that I was referring to women as such.

2) Again with the "mind went there." I'm not denying that we are discussing sex, I'm pointing out

that it was YOU who automatically assumed I was referring to women.

3)Anytime you r discussing sex or how sex should/is viewed you are discussing power. Who has

the power to regulate normative values, how sexuality is viewed by a community, the different

ways we speak of female sexuality or male sexuality, expression, rights etc. I would be more

than happy to provide you with literature on this.

4) If a woman replied the same, it would not be ok, but it would also be different. Neither would be

right, but the privilege point the speakers are coming from needs to be considered when

we are having discussions like this. As I am often reminded, "check your privilege."

5) I'm not offended, I just believe that ignorance should be corrected, not ignored.

6) The same could be said to you. Your comment was the one that was attacking and judgmental,

don't assume that you can respond negatively to someones post without having them respond

in return with irritation.

7) I do not deny that I rode in on a horse with my response, but you might also want to step off

of yours as well. You, throughout this thread (I have read each response) have made gross

generalizations that are not only unsupported, but also simply illogical.

8) You still have not adressed the questions I have asked, which seems to imply that you don't

care to or simply don't have answers. I can respect not having answers, because I don't have

them either.

OldFriends4Sale said:

LadyCasanova said:

1) Is that an invitation to talk about voyeurism?

2) I feel the same way about anal sex in porn

Be careful about extending this conversation into XXX

If by XXX you mean pornographic material, than you have nothing to worry about, I do not intend

to turn this into erotica.

If by XXX you mean discussing anal sex or pornography I would like you to point me to the

text that states that these discussions are not allowed.

PurpleJedi said:

LadyCasanova said:

Your balls, my mouth?

Sounds like a date to me

Better now that you are here

OldFriends4Sale said:

LadyCasanova said:

Honey, you are getting at the wrong woman with that response. As a woman who received an all

women's higher education and fought for the sexual and reproductive rights of women in a number of countries

you, who I believe may be male and therefore an ally, do not have the power to tell me how

I view women or how I define being a feminist.

For your information, the comparision I was making was not to women but rather the subject being practiced with, be they female,male or not identified. The fact that your mind

automatically jumped to the subjugation of women says something about the way you subconsciously view women, or, what it means to be a woman.

You also lack the power to define sexual relationships for anyone other than yourself.

What is respect for sex? You say it as if there is some universal truth to the matter or an

intrinsic value to sex ITSELF.

Sexual practices are not one in the same across time or space, so don't pretend otherwise.

Your view is just that, your individual opinion that only YOU are responsible for upholding.

The ease of my response was due to my wish to be light about this subject because I understand

and respect that not everyone feels the same way about sex. This *points to the text above* is

what I didn't want to get into. You are not the moral authority on sex so do not presume to tell

me my own feelings, or of the lack of "respect" I, in your ignorant opinion, have for sex.

[Edited 4/26/12 22:37pm]

get off your high horse and stop having a fit, we are typing in cyberspace so I don't know what your intent is.

And we are talking about SEX, if you want to really talk about basketballs then go talk about basketballs. But when you bring phrases and thoughts into a discussion about sex partners be PREPARED to have others read it as such.

Don't you go jumping on the high horse and saying "My mind went there" what the fuck are we talking about?? SEX And you know you were talking about sex and practicing with many partners...

What does me having power have anything to do with anything.

So if a woman replied the same, it would be ok?

If you put a thought out there, don't get offended if someone replies.

If you put your ideas out there, in this discussion EXPECT for people to have a response or don't get involved if your feeling are this easily stirred up.

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LadyCasanova said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Be careful about extending this conversation into XXX

If by XXX you mean pornographic material, than you have nothing to worry about, I do not intend

to turn this into erotica.

If by XXX you mean discussing anal sex or pornography I would like you to point me to the

text that states that these discussions are not allowed.

Stay with the context Lady is all I'm saying

discussing some of these things is one thing, but this thread isn't abou that's all I'm saying

And this has been discussed before, believe it or not this is not an Adult site, there are people underage here too. I've seen a few too many sex threads just turn vulgar

Spinlight said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

get off your high horse and stop having a fit, we are typing in cyberspace so I don't know what your intent is.

And we are talking about SEX, if you want to really talk about basketballs then go talk about basketballs. But when you bring phrases and thoughts into a discussion about sex partners be PREPARED to have others read it as such.

Don't you go jumping on the high horse and saying "My mind went there" what the fuck are we talking about?? SEX And you know you were talking about sex and practicing with many partners...

What does me having power have anything to do with anything.

So if a woman replied the same, it would be ok?

If you put a thought out there, don't get offended if someone replies.

If you put your ideas out there, in this discussion EXPECT for people to have a response or don't get involved if your feeling are this easily stirred up.

If you have something to say say it, I don't get these GIF responses

What do you mean, I'm replying to some bs and it is Pointed right at the persons comments

And I'm allowed to do that.

If someone bitches that I can't respond or have a say in something they publicly put out there then why put it in a post in this thread

[Edited 4/28/12 4:24am]

LadyCasanova said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

get off your high horse and stop having a fit, we are typing in cyberspace so I don't know what your intent is.

And we are talking about SEX, if you want to really talk about basketballs then go talk about basketballs. But when you bring phrases and thoughts into a discussion about sex partners be PREPARED to have others read it as such.

Don't you go jumping on the high horse and saying "My mind went there" what the fuck are we talking about?? SEX And you know you were talking about sex and practicing with many partners...

What does me having power have anything to do with anything.

So if a woman replied the same, it would be ok?

If you put a thought out there, don't get offended if someone replies.

If you put your ideas out there, in this discussion EXPECT for people to have a response or don't get involved if your feeling are this easily stirred up.

1) If you go back and read what I said about this, I never denied that i was talking about sex

partners, i only denied that I was referring to women as such.

It's a comparison, the reference to practicing with basketballs and changing them up for practice vs practicing sex and changing up partners...

2) Again with the "mind went there." I'm not denying that we are discussing sex, I'm pointing out

that it was YOU who automatically assumed I was referring to women.

You were automatically referring to women and sex

3)Anytime you r discussing sex or how sex should/is viewed you are discussing power. Who has the power to regulate normative values, how sexuality is viewed by a community, the different ways we speak of female sexuality or male sexuality, expression, rights etc. I would be more than happy to provide you with literature on this.

I'm not trying to overpower or make a law about sex partners , we are talking about peoples feelings and thoughts on a number of sex partners. individual people in communities families and society does play a big part and always will weither I like it or not. Also how peoples sexuality affects people outside of their bedroom turns into other things. And everyone isn't keeping their sex to themselves. which does spill into the hospitals police stations government offices etc

4) If a woman replied the same, it would not be ok, but it would also be different. Neither would be right, but the privilege point the speakers are coming from needs to be considered when we are having discussions like this. As I am often reminded, "check your privilege."

so prejudice on being a male or female is there. If a man said the same I would still respond the same. Clara Barton & Susan B Anthony fought to hard for me not to consider women equal.

5) I'm not offended, I just believe that ignorance should be corrected, not ignored.

I believe the same which is why I responded to you.

6) The same could be said to you. Your comment was the one that was attacking and judgmental, don't assume that you can respond negatively to someones post without having them respond in return with irritation.

No you are reacting emotionally on that one. You saw my response and got ticked. There was no judgemental. But I guess in society no one should ever say anything about anything people say out of context or do, just look the other way, because that's being judgmental. ok

7) I do not deny that I rode in on a horse with my response, but you might also want to step off of yours as well. You, throughout this thread (I have read each response) have made gross

generalizations that are not only unsupported, but also simply illogical.

I never compared women to objects.

I'm stating my point and what I've seen and experienced.

If it's unsupported and illogical then why are there other here saying the same thing.

And I read too...

Again if you can't handle someone responding to something you've said, try not saying it in a public forum.

8) You still have not adressed the questions I have asked, which seems to imply that you don't

care to or simply don't have answers. I can respect not having answers, because I don't have

them either.

What questions have I not addressed? Because you blew a comment into a book, now I have to respond to every singe thing? But what post with the questions and I'll be glad to go back and respond.

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I am soooooooooooo thankful that Oldfriends4sale is NOT a mod in GD!

JustErin said:

I am soooooooooooo thankful that Oldfriends4sale is NOT a mod in GD!

Me too lol

But I'm still a mod so I could just bring it to a mods attention lol

We've talked about it in the site discussion section

It's not possible but I wish we could have a 18 and up section that could be a bit more free

It still gives me the willies knowing that there are children 15 and under taking part in these discussions, sometimes posing as adults

that Youtube vidio is just slack, I almost vomitted when i saw it

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OldFriends4Sale said:

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I have read your responses and did not re-copy them because they are still up there for people

to read without being copied again.

We could keep going on and on with this, but I really don't see the point. You have your system of

belief and I have mine, they have been stated. I am not trying to change the way you think,

simply pointing out that things are not as simple as they are being presented on this topic.

What I will point out is that something being logical or not does not depend on the amount of people

who agree with the statement. Logic doesn't work that way.

That being said, the offer on the literature (concerning the importance of power, female sexuality,

etc) is still on the table. For you or anyone else who is interested in reading it.

As to the question, you don't need to answer it. Really won't make a difference.