whistle said:

so, let me get this straight: it isn't actually dangerous to your health to be overweight, it's just a conspiracy by fashion magazines and the media to eradicate fat people.

ai ai ai

Of course it can be. It isn't always, however. And it's all relative. There are all kinds of habits that affect our health, regardless of our weight.

The point the above ladies are trying to make is you can't judge the overall health of a person simply by looking at them. There are "skinny" folks who eat horribly and never exercise and smoke all the livelong day. There are overweight folks who are marathon runners who eat well. When I weighed 50 pounds more than I do today my blood pressure was great, my cholesterol & glucose levels were all normal and the only advice my doctor gave me at the time was to take in more calcium and vitamin D.

I am still considered roughly 20 pounds overweight (I need to lose 21 to get to the very tippy top of the "normal" range for my height, age and gender) and yet I exercise regularly and I'd wager to say I eat better than the vast majority of americans.

KatSkrizzle said:

DaveT said:

Those women are fine looking ladies....but again as other people have said, the photos have been photoshopped still. So you have to ask whether what was removed would affect how attractive they actually are? Possible stretch marks may have been removed and other such things. They are also under a ton of mark up and hair product, so again is this really what these women look like?

The sad thing is, they would still be considered good looking ladies without all this tinkering!

Having said that, there is a fine line. Saying bigger women are still hot is fine, alot of them are....but ladies, don't take that as permission to never get off the sofa ever again, to never hit the gym, to live off crap food,etc. Aside from the lardy implications your actual health could be at risk!

Case in point, with the summer here in the UK you wouldn't believe the amount of size 18 plus ladies shoe-horning themselves into size 10 or 12 clothes and sweating themselves around town (UK sizes here, not sure what the US equivalent is). Honey, that's not a good look.

I think size 14 or 16 is fine, 18 (unless you're super tall) or up and its not good...more to the point its probably damaging your health.

I find that really patronizing. As a solid female that could most likely bench your ass under the table, and out plyometrics your ass, I find it offensive. I've been athletic all my life. Sports, 1/2 marathons, and leisure sports too. Lane Bryant's mannequin is exclusively a mold of an American Speed Skater's body. Yeah there are a lot of people that don't do the right thing, but as a solid chick I do. And I love the look on every doctor's face when I tell them I ran a half marathon, work out daily, and my cholesterol is lower than yours. Oh and how LOW my resting heart rate is.

Never assume. And besides, it's not about how I look, it's about my health first. And like I said before, my man likes the way it tastes either way, so we are good in that dept. too.

PunkMistress said:

DaveT said:

Looks aside (and I think alot of it comes more down to whether a woman is pretty or not, rather then whether she is small or large)...

...I think we're missing the point here. Its all well and good saying that overweight girls (and guys for that matter) and still sexy, but what about the HEALTH IMPLICATIONS.

What about MINDING YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS. I hope you don't take that personally, because I don't know you. But what ABOUT the "health implications"? Shit, my husband weighs twice as much as I do, and I have a million more health issues than he does.

We all make poor health choices, whether smoking, drinking, too little sleep, overindulging, what have you.

Just because someone's fat doesn't give everyone a right to poke into their personal choices under the guise of worrying about their health.

ZombieKitten said:

2freaky4church1 said:

They are a bit overweight but they are very pretty. Obese women are different.

What I don't get is why do good looking black dudes like fat white women? lol

isn't all that to do with early sexual associations? you have to look far back into a person's psyche and see what happened to them during their sexual awakenings

like that girl who likes dead people, she grew up living a floor up from a mortuary, and her first sexual encounter was with a handsome dead boy

wait....WHAT?...who???

*blurg*

KatSkrizzle said:

DaveT said:

Those women are fine looking ladies....but again as other people have said, the photos have been photoshopped still. So you have to ask whether what was removed would affect how attractive they actually are? Possible stretch marks may have been removed and other such things. They are also under a ton of mark up and hair product, so again is this really what these women look like?

The sad thing is, they would still be considered good looking ladies without all this tinkering!

Having said that, there is a fine line. Saying bigger women are still hot is fine, alot of them are....but ladies, don't take that as permission to never get off the sofa ever again, to never hit the gym, to live off crap food,etc. Aside from the lardy implications your actual health could be at risk!

Case in point, with the summer here in the UK you wouldn't believe the amount of size 18 plus ladies shoe-horning themselves into size 10 or 12 clothes and sweating themselves around town (UK sizes here, not sure what the US equivalent is). Honey, that's not a good look.

I think size 14 or 16 is fine, 18 (unless you're super tall) or up and its not good...more to the point its probably damaging your health.

I find that really patronizing. As a solid female that could most likely bench your ass under the table, and out plyometrics your ass, I find it offensive. I've been athletic all my life. Sports, 1/2 marathons, and leisure sports too. Lane Bryant's mannequin is exclusively a mold of an American Speed Skater's body. Yeah there are a lot of people that don't do the right thing, but as a solid chick I do. And I love the look on every doctor's face when I tell them I ran a half marathon, work out daily, and my cholesterol is lower than yours. Oh and how LOW my resting heart rate is.

Never assume. And besides, it's not about how I look, it's about my health first. And like I said before, my man likes the way it tastes either way, so we are good in that dept. too.

Thickness................is my weakness.

Graycap23 said:

Thickness................is my weakness.

The beauty is the beauty of the heart.....

insatiable3: you are gorgeous, don't let anyone break you down, you're beautiful the way you are....

[Edited 7/28/10 7:18am]

whistle said:

so, let me get this straight: it isn't actually dangerous to your health to be overweight, it's just a conspiracy by fashion magazines and the media to eradicate fat people.

ai ai ai

Ah, no. What people are saying is that being overweight (not obese) doesn't automatically mean that you have health issues.

And if fashion magazines are trying to eradicate fat people, it's not working - people are fatter than ever. I hate the argument that mags are making young girls too skinny, that's just not happening.

JustErin said:

whistle said:

so, let me get this straight: it isn't actually dangerous to your health to be overweight, it's just a conspiracy by fashion magazines and the media to eradicate fat people.

ai ai ai

Ah, no. What people are saying is that being overweight (not obese) doesn't automatically mean that you have health issues.

And if fashion magazines are trying to eradicate fat people, it's not working - people are fatter than ever. I hate the argument that mags are making young girls too skinny, that's just not happening.

I agree.

It's the food that is so readily available that is making people fat. And what the average american household calls a heathy well balanced meal, is way over portioned and it's basically just shitty food.

Like seriously, not lately cuz I haven't been giving a fuck what I eat. But seriously, grocery shopping for my family is always so stressful for me cuz the majority of stuff sold to put in your motuh has little or no nutritional value, and it's not even worth eating IMO. And now that my kids need to take lunches to daycare, I get even more stressed, cuz I'd always buy them bottled water and they'd come home complaining they want juice boxes like the other kids, and the juice boxes are junk too, and the ones that aren't are WAYYYYYY expensive. They make these cereals that are absolute GARBAGE that appeal to kids with all their cartoon characters and what not. And the quick little snacks they make for lunches are garbage too. And don't even get me started on yogurt.......they make trix and dora and those chuggable things, and they're fucking junk. OMG, its ridiculous. Or what about fruit snacks?????? Fuckin, what have we turned into? I KNOW instead of eating gummy bears lets eat a fucking APPLE Poptarts for breakfast??????? Store bought pb & j's in a pouch???????? Mother fucker, you can't MAKE a pb & J????

COME ON!!!!!!!!!

ladies, don't take that as permission to never get off the sofa ever again, to never hit the gym, to live off crap food,etc.

don't hate!

BklynBabe said:

ladies, don't take that as permission to never get off the sofa ever again, to never hit the gym, to live off crap food,etc.

don't hate!

TotalANXiousNESS said:

JustErin said:

Ah, no. What people are saying is that being overweight (not obese) doesn't automatically mean that you have health issues.

And if fashion magazines are trying to eradicate fat people, it's not working - people are fatter than ever. I hate the argument that mags are making young girls too skinny, that's just not happening.

I agree.

It's the food that is so readily available that is making people fat. And what the average american household calls a heathy well balanced meal, is way over portioned and it's basically just shitty food.

Like seriously, not lately cuz I haven't been giving a fuck what I eat. But seriously, grocery shopping for my family is always so stressful for me cuz the majority of stuff sold to put in your motuh has little or no nutritional value, and it's not even worth eating IMO. And now that my kids need to take lunches to daycare, I get even more stressed, cuz I'd always buy them bottled water and they'd come home complaining they want juice boxes like the other kids, and the juice boxes are junk too, and the ones that aren't are WAYYYYYY expensive. They make these cereals that are absolute GARBAGE that appeal to kids with all their cartoon characters and what not. And the quick little snacks they make for lunches are garbage too. And don't even get me started on yogurt.......they make trix and dora and those chuggable things, and they're fucking junk. OMG, its ridiculous. Or what about fruit snacks?????? Fuckin, what have we turned into? I KNOW instead of eating gummy bears lets eat a fucking APPLE Poptarts for breakfast??????? Store bought pb & j's in a pouch???????? Mother fucker, you can't MAKE a pb & J????

COME ON!!!!!!!!!

all this time i thought it was just me!!!

i have a seriously hard time shopppin for food for my self

thank god my children are grown

no daycare at least

but anyway..

with them growning up..when we to the grocery..people around would hear them begging for stuff and just

cuz they'd be askin for trees (broccoli) and salads..

and dont forget the carrots (sugar i know but still)

and apples to MAKE applesauce with..

oh!!

and i would ask if they wanted cookies or potato chips..

and they would say to me,

but mom cant you just make us some cookies at home?

TotalANXiousNESS said:

JustErin said:

Ah, no. What people are saying is that being overweight (not obese) doesn't automatically mean that you have health issues.

And if fashion magazines are trying to eradicate fat people, it's not working - people are fatter than ever. I hate the argument that mags are making young girls too skinny, that's just not happening.

I agree.

It's the food that is so readily available that is making people fat. And what the average american household calls a heathy well balanced meal, is way over portioned and it's basically just shitty food.

Like seriously, not lately cuz I haven't been giving a fuck what I eat. But seriously, grocery shopping for my family is always so stressful for me cuz the majority of stuff sold to put in your motuh has little or no nutritional value, and it's not even worth eating IMO. And now that my kids need to take lunches to daycare, I get even more stressed, cuz I'd always buy them bottled water and they'd come home complaining they want juice boxes like the other kids, and the juice boxes are junk too, and the ones that aren't are WAYYYYYY expensive. They make these cereals that are absolute GARBAGE that appeal to kids with all their cartoon characters and what not. And the quick little snacks they make for lunches are garbage too. And don't even get me started on yogurt.......they make trix and dora and those chuggable things, and they're fucking junk. OMG, its ridiculous. Or what about fruit snacks?????? Fuckin, what have we turned into? I KNOW instead of eating gummy bears lets eat a fucking APPLE Poptarts for breakfast??????? Store bought pb & j's in a pouch???????? Mother fucker, you can't MAKE a pb & J????

COME ON!!!!!!!!!

But just because that food is out there it doesnt mean you have to buy it... YOU are in control of your children, Junk foods should only be a treat, moderation is always the key...

My kids would of LOVED to have a pop every nite with dinner, what did they get..Milk.. No foo foo chocolate or strawberry sugar loaded flavored crap either... They had a choice of milk or water...

Sure we had chips and stuff, but I made snacks like beef jerky, dried apples... If you spinkle the apples with a bit of cinnamon they are awesome! I too opted for homeade things that way I could control how much fat and sugar they had... And until they were a certain age they had to ask to get a snack, and if they didnt want to eat an apple, well then they werent very hungry were they!

DaveT said:

BklynBabe said:

don't hate!

I'm not hating, I'm just hoping some of the scarily overweight behemoths that frequent my local town centre are reading this! haha All joking aside, it wasnt a dig at those larger ladies (and gents for that matter) that are fit and healthy...more power to you! I know plenty of stick thin folk that could benefit from some lifestyle adjustment, so to speak. On a side note, is it just here in the UK where it costs so much more to eat good food? Fruit and veg costs so much compared to some of the junk you can buy for pennies! You can understand why some poorer families choose to live off rubbish when they can't afford the healthier options...

this is a good part of the problem here..the cheaper food is not as good for you..if you're on a budget or using food stamps, etc. you're buying to get as much food as you can..

which sadly does not equate to good for you food as much as it should..

This pic was for another thread but it fits here too.

The origin of my appreciation for curves comes from my Mommy.

She was always thick but I always had the sexiest mom of my class she'd walk in the room and all the dads would be all

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/mommorro.jpg[/img:$uid]

tinaz said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

I agree.

It's the food that is so readily available that is making people fat. And what the average american household calls a heathy well balanced meal, is way over portioned and it's basically just shitty food.

Like seriously, not lately cuz I haven't been giving a fuck what I eat. But seriously, grocery shopping for my family is always so stressful for me cuz the majority of stuff sold to put in your motuh has little or no nutritional value, and it's not even worth eating IMO. And now that my kids need to take lunches to daycare, I get even more stressed, cuz I'd always buy them bottled water and they'd come home complaining they want juice boxes like the other kids, and the juice boxes are junk too, and the ones that aren't are WAYYYYYY expensive. They make these cereals that are absolute GARBAGE that appeal to kids with all their cartoon characters and what not. And the quick little snacks they make for lunches are garbage too. And don't even get me started on yogurt.......they make trix and dora and those chuggable things, and they're fucking junk. OMG, its ridiculous. Or what about fruit snacks?????? Fuckin, what have we turned into? I KNOW instead of eating gummy bears lets eat a fucking APPLE Poptarts for breakfast??????? Store bought pb & j's in a pouch???????? Mother fucker, you can't MAKE a pb & J????

COME ON!!!!!!!!!

But just because that food is out there it doesnt mean you have to buy it... YOU are in control of your children, Junk foods should only be a treat, moderation is always the key...

My kids would of LOVED to have a pop every nite with dinner, what did they get..Milk.. No foo foo chocolate or strawberry sugar loaded flavored crap either... They had a choice of milk or water...

Sure we had chips and stuff, but I made snacks like beef jerky, dried apples... If you spinkle the apples with a bit of cinnamon they are awesome! I too opted for homeade things that way I could control how much fat and sugar they had... And until they were a certain age they had to ask to get a snack, and if they didnt want to eat an apple, well then they werent very hungry were they!

this she knows

i believe..

what i heard was all that packaged EASY food is there and well..

pb&j already made??!!??!! in the cart..

if you're in a hurry or lazy or whatever it is that doesnt let you see what kind of short cuts those really are..you'll buy them

the market is flooded with crap like this..no i dont buy that crap..

but as long as the next 2 or 3 people do..it's NOT going anywhere

like all those frozen dinners overloaded with fat and sodium and even excess sugar...

its so easy to put it in a microwave and heat it up..

much easier thaan COOKING a dinner that has better nutritional value..

i never had any of that fruit snack crap in my house

and very rarely chips and sodas (pop) sorry ive been a bit southernized here

while my little sister bought into the snacks and fruit things and little bags of chips etc.

and her children the 2 oldest both at some point were over weight..the oldest in danger of developing diabetes..

when i heard that.. i had a talk with her..explained a few things you know.. shes not so bad with it now..

but

het youngest is chubbin up and i worry bout that..

his father doesnt really let him play outside and he had any number of video games to play

like father...

im going over later today..

and might hang around long enough to see if he wants to go to the park and shoot hoops..

johnart said:

This pic was for another thread but it fits here too.

The origin of my appreciation for curves comes from my Mommy.

She was always thick but I always had the sexiest mom of my class she'd walk in the room and all the dads would be all

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/mommorro.jpg[/img:$uid]

Hot.

I hope my son talks about me like this one day.

I don't consider any of those girls as overweight at all. The problem is, the image that the media has put out there as sexy since the 1990s is the sickly, beanpole look. They look like drug addicts and by today's standards, even beautiful women like Jacklyn Smith or Valeri Bertinelli would be considered overweight.

I find a big girl like Nell Carter to be beautiful also. When "Gimme A Break" really took off and she stopped wearing housedresses and started wearing more makeup, started doing her hair, and started wearing nice clothes, I found her to be absolutely beautiful both inside and out. With a woman, I see beauty as a strong woman who fixes herself up, dresses real nice, don't take no shit off no man, and carries herself with an attitude and confidence that she's the hottest thing walking regardless of whether she's considered beautiful by the masses or not. I also found that big girl on "Amen", the one that dressed nice and sang really well, to be beautiful. It's all about the attitude and self confidence. But then again, I'm gay though so what the hell do I know when it comes to women anyway because no matter how beautiful I may consider them, I'm not attracted to any of them sexually...not even a pretty thing like Halle Berry.

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[Edited 7/28/10 9:36am]

johnart said:

This pic was for another thread but it fits here too.

The origin of my appreciation for curves comes from my Mommy.

She was always thick but I always had the sexiest mom of my class she'd walk in the room and all the dads would be all

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/mommorro.jpg[/img:$uid]

She is FIERCE!

Go 'head, Mama Johnart!!!!

johnart said:

This pic was for another thread but it fits here too.

The origin of my appreciation for curves comes from my Mommy.

She was always thick but I always had the sexiest mom of my class she'd walk in the room and all the dads would be all

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/mommorro.jpg[/img:$uid]

WOW!

Reminds me of a young Lainie Kazan. She was smokin' hot back in the day.

[Edited 7/28/10 10:20am]

johnart said:

This pic was for another thread but it fits here too.

The origin of my appreciation for curves comes from my Mommy.

She was always thick but I always had the sexiest mom of my class she'd walk in the room and all the dads would be all

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/mommorro.jpg[/img:$uid]

LOOK AT HER!!!!!

LOVE IT.

johnart said:

This pic was for another thread but it fits here too.

The origin of my appreciation for curves comes from my Mommy.

She was always thick but I always had the sexiest mom of my class she'd walk in the room and all the dads would be all

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/mommorro.jpg[/img:$uid]

Get 'em, Mama!

Your mother is BEAUTIFUL.

johnart said:

This pic was for another thread but it fits here too.

The origin of my appreciation for curves comes from my Mommy.

She was always thick but I always had the sexiest mom of my class she'd walk in the room and all the dads would be all

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/mommorro.jpg[/img:$uid]

Now that's what I call a good looking, healthy woman...great figure and a real glow about her...

johnart said:

This pic was for another thread but it fits here too.

The origin of my appreciation for curves comes from my Mommy.

She was always thick but I always had the sexiest mom of my class she'd walk in the room and all the dads would be all

[img:$uid]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/jgascot/personal/mommorro.jpg[/img:$uid]

Now that's what I call a good looking, healthy woman...great figure and a real glow about her...

DaveT said:

PunkMistress said:

What about MINDING YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS. I hope you don't take that personally, because I don't know you. But what ABOUT the "health implications"? Shit, my husband weighs twice as much as I do, and I have a million more health issues than he does.

We all make poor health choices, whether smoking, drinking, too little sleep, overindulging, what have you.

Just because someone's fat doesn't give everyone a right to poke into their personal choices under the guise of worrying about their health.

Don't worry, I don't take any posts on here personally ...going by how often people misread, make assumptions, misquote you, if I did I'd have taken a jump out the window long ago! I take your point about leaving people be to live how they want to, that's cool. But, if you have friends or relatives that you simply wanted to have around a bit longer instead of popping their clogs early...and my post was aimed at this genuine reason, rather than a shallow dig at looks and vanity...would it not be ok to say "Hey, I say this 'cos I love you, I think you need to make a change"...??

I'd like all of my loved ones to be around a bit longer instead of dying early, yes.

But honestly, I'm really not the type that suggests life changes to people as a habit. I very much believe in "live and let live" - even when I strongly disagree with the way others live. Anyway, where would that kind of inquiry begin and end? Asking all the smokers in my life to quit, all the fatties to lose weight, all the drinkers to go dry, all the compulsive exercisers to take it easy so they don't have a heart attack?

I understand what you're saying, but my answer is no, I wouldn't say that to a loved one - unless I was observing them engaging in truly reckless and risky behavior. If a friend or family member suddenly started eating 15 boxes of doughnuts a day or something, I might inquire as to whether everything was okay.

DaveT said:

KatSkrizzle said:

I find that really patronizing. As a solid female that could most likely bench your ass under the table, and out plyometrics your ass, I find it offensive. I've been athletic all my life. Sports, 1/2 marathons, and leisure sports too. Lane Bryant's mannequin is exclusively a mold of an American Speed Skater's body. Yeah there are a lot of people that don't do the right thing, but as a solid chick I do. And I love the look on every doctor's face when I tell them I ran a half marathon, work out daily, and my cholesterol is lower than yours. Oh and how LOW my resting heart rate is.

Never assume. And besides, it's not about how I look, it's about my health first. And like I said before, my man likes the way it tastes either way, so we are good in that dept. too.

Oh, and don't take it personally, but sorry to disappoint you on the off-topic, I bet I'm fitter than you p*ssing contest... ...but I play rugby semi-professionally and I've run the London Marathon 3 out of the last 5 years (for the British Heart Foundation)....I don't profess to be a fitness guru by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm sure I could at least give you a run for your money, no pun intended!

None taken. I find that a lot of people will say "hey, go take a walk!" And I'll be like, "I hike a mountain a few times a week, care to join?" And they're like...um....

So I see your point. I felt clumped into a category, as we solid chicks usually are. But I'm far fitter than the average slim person, so I take it quite seriously. I'm eye to eye with you now. I'm seeing where you are coming from.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

JustErin said:

Ah, no. What people are saying is that being overweight (not obese) doesn't automatically mean that you have health issues.

And if fashion magazines are trying to eradicate fat people, it's not working - people are fatter than ever. I hate the argument that mags are making young girls too skinny, that's just not happening.

I agree.

It's the food that is so readily available that is making people fat. And what the average american household calls a heathy well balanced meal, is way over portioned and it's basically just shitty food.

Like seriously, not lately cuz I haven't been giving a fuck what I eat. But seriously, grocery shopping for my family is always so stressful for me cuz the majority of stuff sold to put in your motuh has little or no nutritional value, and it's not even worth eating IMO. And now that my kids need to take lunches to daycare, I get even more stressed, cuz I'd always buy them bottled water and they'd come home complaining they want juice boxes like the other kids, and the juice boxes are junk too, and the ones that aren't are WAYYYYYY expensive. They make these cereals that are absolute GARBAGE that appeal to kids with all their cartoon characters and what not. And the quick little snacks they make for lunches are garbage too. And don't even get me started on yogurt.......they make trix and dora and those chuggable things, and they're fucking junk. OMG, its ridiculous. Or what about fruit snacks?????? Fuckin, what have we turned into? I KNOW instead of eating gummy bears lets eat a fucking APPLE Poptarts for breakfast??????? Store bought pb & j's in a pouch???????? Mother fucker, you can't MAKE a pb & J????

COME ON!!!!!!!!!

I see that with my niece and nephew. They like junk and eat junk because it's around them all day. But they also crave water and fruit. I think it's what their parents eat. My sister's kids a VERY sporty though (runs in our genes) and I think sometimes when a human body is working so hard, if you stop and listen it will crave what it needs. If she isn't taking them on mountain hikes, they're at swim meets, soccer camp, lacrosse camp, basketball camp...man those kids make me tired!

Poor kids these days, if they get mad, here's candy, they get sad, here's candy...we're teaching them to cope with food. Poor kids.

PunkMistress said:

DaveT said:

Don't worry, I don't take any posts on here personally ...going by how often people misread, make assumptions, misquote you, if I did I'd have taken a jump out the window long ago! I take your point about leaving people be to live how they want to, that's cool. But, if you have friends or relatives that you simply wanted to have around a bit longer instead of popping their clogs early...and my post was aimed at this genuine reason, rather than a shallow dig at looks and vanity...would it not be ok to say "Hey, I say this 'cos I love you, I think you need to make a change"...??

I'd like all of my loved ones to be around a bit longer instead of dying early, yes.

But honestly, I'm really not the type that suggests life changes to people as a habit. I very much believe in "live and let live" - even when I strongly disagree with the way others live. Anyway, where would that kind of inquiry begin and end? Asking all the smokers in my life to quit, all the fatties to lose weight, all the drinkers to go dry, all the compulsive exercisers to take it easy so they don't have a heart attack?

I understand what you're saying, but my answer is no, I wouldn't say that to a loved one - unless I was observing them engaging in truly reckless and risky behavior. If a friend or family member suddenly started eating 15 boxes of doughnuts a day or something, I might inquire as to whether everything was okay.

I think pointing out something singles a person out and it can backfire. Sometimes people are not ready to face themselves. Weight is most likely a SYMPTOM and not a problem. It's a perpetuating cycle.

For instance, my mom singled me out as a child. All I can remember is my mother throwing fat in a sentence when she'd had enough of me. Fat brat, fat ass, fat and lazy, fat and dumb. And I came from a big family. Table full of skinny kids and my chubby ass It wasnt so much saddening but rather numbing. And that's when I developed a food/self hate obsession.

My mom later told me she saw my weight as a reflection of her, and my chubby ass told the world that she had failed as a mother. Needless to say I developed a mean case of crash diets, bullemia, and anorexia as a little kid and into adulthood. So pointing things out can really backfire. And that shit cost me $3000 in some damn therapy as an adult! Bullshit!

Is it just me, or am I seeing more white & asian ladies with bodies like their black & latino sisters? It wasn't like this when I was in high school back in the 70s. It's all good.