SchlomoThaHomo said:

Musicslave said:

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I'd go with option #2, "No Sleeep" since that's how everything that's official has it spelled. So Cinny, What do you think of the song "No Sl333p"?

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I say "No SLZZZP."

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That'll work too

BET is honoring janet with the first ever 'ultimate icon award'

Blixical said:

MattyJam said:

I'm not JJ's biggest fan by any means, but it's simply not true when folks say she can't sing. You may not personally care for her vocals and granted, she doesn't have the most powerful voice, but why does she have to? Power is only one aspect of singing. Can we only enjoy female vocalists who sound like Whitney and Mariah and the army of American Idol try-hard warblers they've inspired?

I don't expect Janet to sound like Mariah or Whitney.
I don't think anybody expects that.

I just don't think she can sing, is all. I listenned to several

of her albums looking for one track--anything, actually,

that justified her fame. Although several songs were catchy,

her voice was always the weakest part of the tracks.
I just don't get this singer at all. She's darned lucky

to have had Michael for a brother.

you do know there are a gang of mj threads on this site right, did you get lost?

Free2BMe said:

In my opinion, Jam and Lewis' Production and music is what makes this song. Janet's vocals are extremely thin and weak. Jam and Lewis' groove is what is carrying the song.

K

lowkey said:

BET is honoring janet with the first ever 'ultimate icon award'

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I think that's cool but how does this distinguishes itself from their Lifetime Achievement Award? What's' the difference? Hey, maybe we get a great live performance out of it Probably will be the first television performance of "No Sleeep". I hope the choreography is cool like the song. She hasn't had any signature dance moves in a minute.

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NO MO GIL. NO MO GIL.

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He can help pick dancers for her tour, help teach choreography, or even just be a good friend to Janet but please, let someone else new be the lead choreographer this time. There's too many hot new young choreographers that's waiting for an opportunity to work with somebody like her.

Musicslave said:

lowkey said:

BET is honoring janet with the first ever 'ultimate icon award'

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I think that's cool but how does this distinguishes itself from their Lifetime Achievement Award? What's' the difference? Hey, maybe we get a great live performance out of it Probably will be the first television performance of "No Sleeep". I hope the choreography is cool like the song. She hasn't had any signature dance moves in a minute.

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NO MO GIL. NO MO GIL.

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He can help pick dancers for her tour, help teach choreography, or even just be a good friend to Janet but please, let someone else new be the lead choreographer this time. There's too many hot new young choreographers that's waiting for an opportunity to work with somebody like her.

well its not the same as a lifetime achievement award, BET was built in the video era, almost all of the lifetime honorees contributed nothing really to the video/visual era, they probably were never really even played on BET....she is being crown the ultimate icon of music,dance,visual. i think this award will allow deserving artists from the video era to be honored.

Free2BMe said:

lowkey said:

BlackCat1985 said:

lowkey said:

well its not the same as a lifetime achievement award, BET was built in the video era, almost all of the lifetime honorees contributed nothing really to the video/visual era, they probably were never really even played on BET....she is being crown the ultimate icon of music,dance,visual. i think this award will allow deserving artists from the video era to be honored.

Other than Janet and Micheal. Who else can get an award like this. I mean those two to me are the only ones I can see getting it. I know some would say Usher and Beyonce but their videos didn't have the impact that Michael's and Janet's did. It sounds like they created it specifically to honor her.

The BET award should be renamed" The Janet Jackson Ultimate Icon". Since MTV created an award named after her brother. No other female has been an innovator like her.

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lowkey said:

Musicslave said:

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I think that's cool but how does this distinguishes itself from their Lifetime Achievement Award? What's' the difference? Hey, maybe we get a great live performance out of it Probably will be the first television performance of "No Sleeep". I hope the choreography is cool like the song. She hasn't had any signature dance moves in a minute.

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NO MO GIL. NO MO GIL.

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He can help pick dancers for her tour, help teach choreography, or even just be a good friend to Janet but please, let someone else new be the lead choreographer this time. There's too many hot new young choreographers that's waiting for an opportunity to work with somebody like her.

well its not the same as a lifetime achievement award, BET was built in the video era, almost all of the lifetime honorees contributed nothing really to the video/visual era, they probably were never really even played on BET....she is being crown the ultimate icon of music,dance,visual. i think this award will allow deserving artists from the video era to be honored.

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Trust me, I have no problem with her being honored. In fact I believe her legacy has been largely ignored, and purposely omitted (until recently). Is there a breakdown somewhere of what criteria they used to honor her this way? Again, I'm not arguing her being honored. Just wondering why create another award in the first place. I like the idea of honoring what she brought to music, dance & video. Did BET mention that?

BlackCat1985 said:

lowkey said:

well its not the same as a lifetime achievement award, BET was built in the video era, almost all of the lifetime honorees contributed nothing really to the video/visual era, they probably were never really even played on BET....she is being crown the ultimate icon of music,dance,visual. i think this award will allow deserving artists from the video era to be honored.

Other than Janet and Micheal. Who else can get an award like this. I mean those two to me are the only ones I can see getting it. I know some would say Usher and Beyonce but their videos didn't have the impact that Michael's and Janet's did. It sounds like they created it specifically to honor her.

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Which makes it sounds a little contrived to me. But again, I'm not mad. Let me put it this way. It's like saying well, since you're not good enough to meet our criteria for a Lifetime Achievement Award, we'll just come up with something, so you can come on our show and debut a new performance and this will help generate ratings.

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I think honoring her and Smokey Robinson both would have been suffice. It just smells a little too much like when that award show created an award for Beyonce just as she was promoting something (which is often). It thought it was contrived then and this looks suspect to me now. That's all.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

BlackCat1985 said:

lowkey said: Other than Janet and Micheal. Who else can get an award like this. I mean those two to me are the only ones I can see getting it. I know some would say Usher and Beyonce but their videos didn't have the impact that Michael's and Janet's did. It sounds like they created it specifically to honor her.

The BET award should be named" The Janet Jackson Ultimate Icon". Since MTV created an award named after her brother. No other female has been an innovator like her.

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Agreed.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

No other female has been an innovator like her.

http://www.bet.com/news/music/2015/06/23/janet-jackson-to-receive-inaugural-ultimate-icon-music-dance-visual-award.html

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"This is Janet Jackson, people! We are excited beyond belief to present her with our inaugural ULTIMATE ICON: Music Dance Visual award and we are thrilled that she chose the BET Awards as the first step on her new road," said Stephen G. Hill, BET's President of Programming. "An inspiration to many other artists, 'Ms. Jackson' ('cause I'm nasty) blends music, dance and visuals in unique and groundbreaking ways and we look forward to celebrating her storied history... as well as giving the BET Awards audience a peek into her Unbreakable future."

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As she makes her grand return to the music scene, Jackson will be honored like the music royal that she is with performances from three of her biggest contemporary admirers: Tinashe, Jason Derulo and Ciara.

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Ms. Jackson's comeback has already begun with her first single, "No Sleeep," from her upcoming album — her first in seven years — officially premiering yesterday (June 22). The Ultimate Icon: Music Dance Visual award will be another honor that Jackson can add to her résumé as she currently holds six Grammys, two Emmys, a Golden Globe, and many others. She is also the first African-American female artist to have hit singles in each of the last four decades, proving that she is very much deserving of this prestigious distinction.

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Tune in to the 2015 BET Awards this Sunday, June 28, at 8P/7C, hosted by Tracee Ellis Ross and Anthony Anderson. You don't want to miss this!"

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Britney Spears would be an appropriate addition to that tribute line up too. Her whole stage persona screams Janet. Always has. I'm sure Tinashe and Ciara are beyond excited right now. Don't know why Jason Derulo is there. Pardon my ignorance.

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Cinnamon234 said:

I love "No Sleep". I must have listened to it 100 times already. Classic Janet. I wonder if Jimmy & Terry produced it? I'm really looking forward to the album and tour (I'm really hoping she'll add an NYC/NJ date).

Jimmy & Terry are supposed to have produced this whole new album.

purplethunder3121 said:

Cinnamon234 said:

I love "No Sleep". I must have listened to it 100 times already. Classic Janet. I wonder if Jimmy & Terry produced it? I'm really looking forward to the album and tour (I'm really hoping she'll add an NYC/NJ date).

Jimmy & Terry are supposed to have produced this whole new album.

No Avila brothers?

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Musicslave said:

missfee said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Good analogies, and I hope you're right. The world needs a big Janet dancefloor smash for the summer of 2015.

True, but I already love this song and have made it part of my summer 2015 playlist. Reminds me of a warm summer evening.

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MattyJam said:

Blixical said:

This is a real problem for Janet.
First, the woman can not sing. So it is essential that

her songs be catchy and well produced. When that

element is taken out, you have blandness like this.

I don't get Janet Jackson's appeal. A nose-job and lipo

suction doesn't make up for a missing voice.

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I'm not JJ's biggest fan by any means, but it's simply not true when folks say she can't sing. You may not personally care for her vocals and granted, she doesn't have the most powerful voice, but why does she have to? Power is only one aspect of singing. Can we only enjoy female vocalists who sound like Whitney and Mariah and the army of American Idol try-hard warblers they've inspired?

THIS. I'll tell you one thing, you know Janet is back in full effect when the haters start chiming in. LOL. At least they're talking.

JanFan said:

Blixical said:

I don't expect Janet to sound like Mariah or Whitney.
I don't think anybody expects that.

I just don't think she can sing, is all. I listenned to several

of her albums looking for one track--anything, actually,

that justified her fame. Although several songs were catchy,

her voice was always the weakest part of the tracks.
I just don't get this singer at all. She's darned lucky

to have had Michael for a brother.

Oh look someone dragging Michael into a Janet discussion. Let's see if the same ones complaining about Janet fans bringing other artists up will object this.

It's funny how some people ONLY come into Janet threads and they don't chime in until either another artist is brought up, and then scold everyone how "Janet fans ALWAYS bring up other artists!", or either they mention MJ as a point of reference as to why Janet became a superstar, which is beyond beating a dead horse at this point. The Jackson name gave ALL of them opportunity, but Janet was the only other one to become an iconic superstar. The end.

lowkey said:

BET is honoring janet with the first ever 'ultimate icon award'

lowkey said:

Blixical said:

I don't expect Janet to sound like Mariah or Whitney.
I don't think anybody expects that.

I just don't think she can sing, is all. I listenned to several

of her albums looking for one track--anything, actually,

that justified her fame. Although several songs were catchy,

her voice was always the weakest part of the tracks.
I just don't get this singer at all. She's darned lucky

to have had Michael for a brother.

you do know there are a gang of mj threads on this site right, did you get lost?

Free2BMe said:

In my opinion, Jam and Lewis' Production and music is what makes this song. Janet's vocals are extremely thin and weak. Jam and Lewis' groove is what is carrying the song.

I would expect nothing less.

Musicslave said:

lowkey said:

BET is honoring janet with the first ever 'ultimate icon award'

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I think that's cool but how does this distinguishes itself from their Lifetime Achievement Award? What's' the difference? Hey, maybe we get a great live performance out of it Probably will be the first television performance of "No Sleeep". I hope the choreography is cool like the song. She hasn't had any signature dance moves in a minute.

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NO MO GIL. NO MO GIL.

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He can help pick dancers for her tour, help teach choreography, or even just be a good friend to Janet but please, let someone else new be the lead choreographer this time. There's too many hot new young choreographers that's waiting for an opportunity to work with somebody like her.

I was reading somewhere that she actually does have a different choreographer. I think Gil might just be helping with the auditioning/overseeing of the tour this time (PLEASE GOD).

BlackCat1985 said:

Free2BMe said:

In my opinion, Jam and Lewis' Production and music is what makes this song. Janet's vocals are extremely thin and weak. Jam and Lewis' groove is what is carrying the song.

Lol! You know Janet is in full effect when the haters come out. I love JJ and TL, but the hype they are getting now in connection to Janet is the most they've gotten in a long ass time. They need her just as much as she needs them. And I have absolutely no problem with that. Can't wait to see her this Sunday. "No Sleeep" has already broke into the top 10 on iTunes. Let's get it to #1 Jamfam. Let go!!!

AGREED 100%.

DOING THE HAPPY DANCE!!

Raven Symone GEEKING over Janet on The View today...

purplethunder3121 said:

Cinnamon234 said:

I love "No Sleep". I must have listened to it 100 times already. Classic Janet. I wonder if Jimmy & Terry produced it? I'm really looking forward to the album and tour (I'm really hoping she'll add an NYC/NJ date).

Jimmy & Terry are supposed to have produced this whole new album.

You sure, several months ago, there was mention of her traveling around working with many big names.