MusicAddict95 said:

Lol @ the person who said that Beyonce is more talented and beautiful than Janet.

First of all, I don't know what "beauty" has to do with talent, but whatever. That's subjective anyway. I happen to think Janet is FARRR more beautiful than Beyonce. I mean, Bey, is just your average hood chick from up the block. Janet has that beautiful and distinctive Jackson look!

Secondly, the only talent that Beyonce has over Janet is singing. Bey may be able to sing better, but there is NOTHING distinctive about her voice. Plenty of girls sound like Beyonce. Janet has among the most sensual and distinctive voices that I have heard in music and she uses it very well and to her most creative abilities. I would argue that Janet's voice enhances the music, NOT the other way around. I mean, I can't imagine anyone singing to the beats of Janet's songs other than Janet herself (and her brother Michael, who occasionally sound like one another at times).

Other than that, Beyonce NOR Solange are not more talented BY ANY means than Janet, whatsoever. Anyone who claims otherwise, is straight hating or genuinely delusional. I mean, really, the Knowles sisters having more talent than Janet??!!

You people have lost y'alls damn minds. That's definitely one of the most ridiculous claims I've ever heard on my short time on the org thus far.

Revolution is a total troll

Solange's "Losing You" video is completely inspired by Janet's "Got 'til It's Gone" in every way, and Bey has been inspired by J for years.

SeventeenDayze said:

@Seanmen I knew you would come with those receipts! You better let them know!

I'm with you on that one, I always look forward to seeing Seanman's responses to these Janet threads

Thank u!

RJOrion said:

Oh...boy

I don't see what looks has to do with this (Looks does not validate whether someone is more or less talented) but you're right Janet did get plastic surgery on her nose.

However, so has Beyonce.

I also think Janet was more beautiful than Beyonce in her prime as well not that Beyonce is not an attractive woman but her looks are overrated. Janet has such a gorgeous smile. The Jackson girls were all naturally beautiful women including Rebbie and of course Katherine.

Musicaddict pretty much covered everything I was going to say on the silly comparision between JJ and B. I just want to clarify this one little point.

Beyonce is a better technical singer but Janet is the better emotional singer. There is a difference. Janet has a distinctive voice. Janet connects with people and evokes more emotion in her singing than B which by default makes her a overall better singer imo.

RJOrion said:

someone said," Janet has that beautiful and distinctive Jackson look" lol...i AM a Jackson...that aint the Jackson look... thats Plastic surgery... Beyonce didnt needd to carve her nose up, and buy fake boobies.. and beauty does matter when youre a female popstar..fair or not...beauty and/or visual image is VERY important ..except for Gaga, apparently...and shes a shock artist anyaway

I, and everybody else, as someone pointed out, know that you are a troll, so nobody's paying attention to your posts. No one's taking you seriously and anything you say here on out is just futile on your part.

mjscarousal said:

Oh...boy

I don't see what looks has to do with this (Looks does not validate whether someone is more or less talented) but you're right Janet did get plastic surgery on her nose.

However, so has Beyonce.

I also think Janet was more beautiful than Beyonce in her prime as well not that Beyonce is not an attractive woman but her looks are overrated. Janet has such a gorgeous smile. The Jackson girls were all naturally beautiful women including Rebbie and of course Katherine.

Musicaddict pretty much covered everything I was going to say on the silly comparision between JJ and B. I just want to clarify this one little point.

Beyonce is a better technical singer but Janet is the better emotional singer. There is a difference. Janet has a distinctive voice. Janet connects with people and evokes more emotion in her singing than B which by default makes her a overall better singer imo.

That's what I was saying. We're talking about talent and someone brings up beauty. I mean what does that have anything to do with talent? People can be so hilarious

Scorp said:

Revolution said:

Janet = Bobby Brown or MC Hammer or Chris Brown

HOT as hell for a minute, then faded fast. Their level of HOTNESS was so high, people

can't help but to think that they were better than they were. This is Lady GaGa territory.

The facts are that none of them bring much to the table.

"hot as hell for a minute, then faded fast".....

another example why Janet is gone and never coming back.....

Janet Jackson started entertaining at 7 years of age, even younger than her brother Michael

her first album was released in 1982 and her last album that was standard was what....2004

that's 22 years on the charts but she faded fast?.........

nobody created slow jams as a female entertainer the way Janet Jackson did

Janet Jackson could do a concert right now and the show will last over 3 hours because she has over 2 decades of music in her discography she can perform on the spot, including her first major hit YOUNG LOVE and SAY YOU DO (produced by Rene Moore and Angela Winbush)

when she did her ALL FOR YOU tour in my town in 2002, her show started at 8pm and didn't finish up until around 11:15pm....over 3 hours of performing.....now who else on the scene right now can do that?

I think this poster deliberately said this to push your buttons - and they succeeded.

Only someone who knows jack about pop music would make such an ignorant remark.

SEANMAN said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I'm with you on that one, I always look forward to seeing Seanman's responses to these Janet threads

Thank u!

No, thank YOU

MusicAddict95 said:

Lol @ the person who said that Beyonce is more talented and beautiful than Janet.

First of all, I don't know what "beauty" has to do with talent, but whatever. That's subjective anyway. I happen to think Janet is FARRR more beautiful than Beyonce. I mean, Bey, is just your average hood chick from up the block. Janet has that beautiful and distinctive Jackson look!

Secondly, the only talent that Beyonce has over Janet is singing. Bey may be able to sing better, but there is NOTHING distinctive about her voice. Plenty of girls sound like Beyonce. Janet has among the most sensual and distinctive voices that I have heard in music and she uses it very well and to her most creative abilities. I would argue that Janet's voice enhances the music, NOT the other way around. I mean, I can't imagine anyone singing to the beats of Janet's songs other than Janet herself (and her brother Michael, who occasionally sound like one another at times).

Other than that, Beyonce NOR Solange are not more talented BY ANY means than Janet, whatsoever. Anyone who claims otherwise, is straight hating or genuinely delusional. I mean, really, the Knowles sisters having more talent than Janet??!!

You people have lost y'alls damn minds. That's definitely one of the most ridiculous claims I've ever heard on my short time on the org thus far.

mjscarousal said:

Oh...boy

I don't see what looks has to do with this (Looks does not validate whether someone is more or less talented) but you're right Janet did get plastic surgery on her nose.

However, so has Beyonce.

I also think Janet was more beautiful than Beyonce in her prime as well not that Beyonce is not an attractive woman but her looks are overrated. Janet has such a gorgeous smile. The Jackson girls were all naturally beautiful women including Rebbie and of course Katherine.

Musicaddict pretty much covered everything I was going to say on the silly comparision between JJ and B. I just want to clarify this one little point.

Beyonce is a better technical singer but Janet is the better emotional singer. There is a difference. Janet has a distinctive voice. Janet connects with people and evokes more emotion in her singing than B which by default makes her a overall better singer imo.

I don't think Beyonce's 2005 nose is her original nose. If you check out pics of her from like 2001 you can see that her nose is much bigger than what it was in 2005. So, it seems she's had multiiple nose jobs.

SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

Oh...boy

I don't see what looks has to do with this (Looks does not validate whether someone is more or less talented) but you're right Janet did get plastic surgery on her nose.

However, so has Beyonce.

I also think Janet was more beautiful than Beyonce in her prime as well not that Beyonce is not an attractive woman but her looks are overrated. Janet has such a gorgeous smile. The Jackson girls were all naturally beautiful women including Rebbie and of course Katherine.

Musicaddict pretty much covered everything I was going to say on the silly comparision between JJ and B. I just want to clarify this one little point.

Beyonce is a better technical singer but Janet is the better emotional singer. There is a difference. Janet has a distinctive voice. Janet connects with people and evokes more emotion in her singing than B which by default makes her a overall better singer imo.

I don't think Beyonce's 2005 nose is her original nose. If you check out pics of her from like 2001 you can see that her nose is much bigger than what it was in 2005. So, it seems she's had multiiple nose jobs.

You are actually right. I just wanted to show that she has at least gotten plastic surgery which she ironically (doesn't get flack for like the others)

mjscarousal said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I don't think Beyonce's 2005 nose is her original nose. If you check out pics of her from like 2001 you can see that her nose is much bigger than what it was in 2005. So, it seems she's had multiiple nose jobs.

You are actually right. I just wanted to show that she has at least gotten plastic surgery which she ironically (doesn't get flack for like the others)

That's another big reason why I nearly throw up any time her PR team tries to make comparisons between her and Michael Jackson. She'll never be on the level he was and in fact nobody will be. So, I wish people would stop staying she's the female Michael Jackson. Her music makes no impact, she never got the harsh criticism that Michael got his entire life. Her music expresses no real feelings of pain, anguish, etc. it's all a bunch of crappy girl power themed songs. Beyonce is a phony. Long live Janet!

BlackCat1985 said:

SEANMAN said:

You have got to be joking. I'm going just chalk you up as someone who is either extremely young or woefully uninformed. In case it's the latter, let me give you a bit of info...

Janet has amassed, thus far, a total of 10 hot 100 #1 hit singles and a slew of top 10s. She has more R&B #1 singles than any other female artist, save Aretha Franklin (she even has more R&B #1s than MJ, but, I digress...). When RN 1814 was all said and done, she'd accumulated five Hot 100 #1s (four from that album and "When I Think of You" from CONTROL), and over the next decade she would accumulate five more. Her longest-running #1 wouldn't even happen until 1993, with "That's the Way Love Goes", and even still, eight years later she would nab her second-longest-running #1 with 2001's "All For You"--the longest-running #1 single of 2001. Here is a general rundown of Janet's post-RN chart stats...

1993

That's The Way Love Goes #1 Hot 100 (spent 8 weeks atop the Hot 100 chart, making Janet the Jackson family act with the longest-running #1 song)

If #4 Hot 100

Again #1 Hot 100 (Oscar-nominated)

Because of Love #10 Hot 100

Any Time, Any Place #2 Hot 100 (still consistently sampled by various artists)

You Want This #8 Hot 100

1995

Runaway #3 Hot 100 ("Runaway" made Janet the first female artist in Billboard'​s history to debut in the top ten of the Billboard Hot 100, entering at number six in September 1995)

1997

Together Again #1 Hot 100 (Janet' biggest international hit to date, peaking in the top 5 in most countries)

I Get Lonely #3 Hot 100 (Janet's eighteenth consecutive top ten hit on the Hot 100, setting a record for her as the only female artist to achieve that feat, surpassed only by Elvis Presley and The Beatles)

2000

Doesn't Really Matter #1 Hot 100 (made Janet the first artist to achieve a #1 in the '80s, '90s and 2000s)

2001

All For You #1 Hot 100 (longest-running #1 single of 2001; set a radio record that lasted a decade before finally being broken by Lady Gaga's "Born This Way")

Someone To Call My Lover #3 Hot 100

2008

Feedback #19 Hot 100 (despite lackluster support from Island Def Jam and little radio airplay stemming from her blacklisting, the first single from DISCIPLINE still managed to crack the top 20, becoming Janet's 29th single to do so)

R&B #1s post-RN 1814

The Best Things In Life Are Free (duet w/Luther Vandross)

That's the Way Love Goes

Any Time, Any Place

I Get Lonely

What's It Gonne Be (duet w/Busta Rhymes)

All For You

Call on Me

Dance Chart #1s post-RN 1814

That's the Way Love Goes

If
Scream (duet w/Michael Jackson)

Together Again

Go Deep

All For You

Someone to Call My Lover

All Nite (Don't Stop)

Feedback

Make Me

So, as you can see, "a few hits only" after RN 1814 would be an incorrect assessment.

@Seanmen I knew you would come with those receipts! You better let them know!

I stand by my point. A Chris Brown stan could come up with just as many hit songs if we're pulling out the "dance" or "r & b" or "hip hop" charts. The point is, what did she bring to the table? Dancing. That's it. You Jackson fans seem to drink from the same well. LMAO!

RJOrion said:

someone said," Janet has that beautiful and distinctive Jackson look" lol...i AM a Jackson...that aint the Jackson look... thats Plastic surgery... Beyonce didnt needd to carve her nose up, and buy fake boobies.. and beauty does matter when youre a female popstar..fair or not...beauty and/or visual image is VERY important ..except for Gaga, apparently...and shes a shock artist anyaway

That "Jackson look" was something that Janet has always had, BNJ (before nose job) and after. The doe eyes, high cheekbones and mega-watt smile were not purchased from a plastic surgeon, and they are characteristics that just about all the Jackson offspring possessed. Beyonce is cute, goregous even at times, but Janet in her prime knocks her out of the park. I realize that it's subjective, but Beyonce in all her bewigged glory pales next to LOVE WILL NEVER DO (WITHOUT YOU) Janet, janet.-era Janet, Earth Mother Velvet Rope-era Janet, and so on and so forth.

BlackCat1985 said:

RJOrion said:

someone said," Janet has that beautiful and distinctive Jackson look" lol...i AM a Jackson...that aint the Jackson look... thats Plastic surgery... Beyonce didnt needd to carve her nose up, and buy fake boobies.. and beauty does matter when youre a female popstar..fair or not...beauty and/or visual image is VERY important ..except for Gaga, apparently...and shes a shock artist anyaway

Well I hate to break it to you but both Beyonce and her sister Solange have had nose jobs too. Oh yeah their cousin Kelly Rowland has had one too. So yeah!

Kelendria also has breast implants

RJOrion said:

ok so maybe i trolled a little when i threw Solange in the mix... but Beyonce over Janet in all categories ...in my non delusional opinion...

That says a lot

Revolution said:

BlackCat1985 said:

SEANMAN said: @Seanmen I knew you would come with those receipts! You better let them know!

I stand by my point. A Chris Brown stan could come up with just as many hit songs if we're pulling out the "dance" or "r & b" or "hip hop" charts. The point is, what did she bring to the table? Dancing. That's it. You Jackson fans seem to drink from the same well. LMAO!

And what a trollish point it is. Dude, you said that the public thinks Janet Jackson's career began with CONTROL and ended with RN 1814, and that she had no hits after RN 1814. Anything else you have to say after that is pretty much nullified by your own stupidity.

Revolution said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Revolution said: You thinking Prince is the GOAT doesn't (or at least shouldn't discredit Jane's talent in the slightest. You're a Prince stan though so I'd be better off not trying to compose a logical argument for you to understand especially when it comes to the quality of other artists.

Every level headed person (lol, which may discount many on this thread) puts Prince in the GOAT conversation. Janet, way seperately, was a cute girl who sang a bit and danced her ass off. Nothing more. She didn't write, didn't play and depended on others to have her biggest hits. Did she even choreograph her own moves???

Janet vs Prince....OMG

'every level headed person' means that you feel everybody whodont think like you or like what you like is wrong or somehow less than. um no every level headed person do not think prince is GOAT,what exactly makes a artist the goat? i've never been a prince fan and finds him boring, i guess im not a level headed person. when did it become a negative to have a good team around you? maybe if prince wasnt a egomaniac and could accept input from other talented people he wouldnt have recorded alot of the mediocre music he's put out over the last 20 plus years. and this thread was about janet's music, where did you see anything about janet vs prince until you tried to make it that?

SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

You are actually right. I just wanted to show that she has at least gotten plastic surgery which she ironically (doesn't get flack for like the others)

That's another big reason why I nearly throw up any time her PR team tries to make comparisons between her and Michael Jackson. She'll never be on the level he was and in fact nobody will be. So, I wish people would stop staying she's the female Michael Jackson. Her music makes no impact, she never got the harsh criticism that Michael got his entire life. Her music expresses no real feelings of pain, anguish, etc. it's all a bunch of crappy girl power themed songs. Beyonce is a phony. Long live Janet!

I think those comparisions are hilarious and any sane person would too

Beyonce's entire career has been based on hype. Even with all her vanity and arrogance, she even knows herself that she will never reach the success/impact of Michael. For one thing, she doesn't even have a ounce of his talent and once again SHE knows that but she likes to trick her fans and the public into thinking a certain way about her brand. She is blessed and very lucky because her success is a facade and not based on earned merits. I don't blame Janet for living her life and taking a break from the crazy corrupt music industry.

Yall be easy on Kelly, I like her Plastic surgery is a personal choice and people are entitled to do what they want. I just don't like how people discredit certain celebrities for having it when 99.9% of everyone in hollywood has had plastic surgery

mjscarousal said:

Jackson clan went WAY overboard with the facial surgeries though..

its quite frightening, sad, & funny, all at once...

and poor Jermaine puts some kinda black shoe polish on his hair and motor oil on his face...

Michael spent his final years on earth as a facially mutated freak show...

even though its seems to be accepted behavior in the entertainment industry, plastic surgery looks disgusting on a majority of people who indulge in that weirdness..

ask Mickey Rourke and Lil Kim

RJOrion said:

Jackson clan went WAY overboard with the facial surgeries though..

its quite frightening, sad, & funny, all at once...

and poor Jermaine puts some kinda black shoe polish on his hair and motor oil on his face...

Michael spent his final years on earth as a facially mutated freak show...

even though its seems to be accepted behavior in the entertainment industry, plastic surgery looks disgusting on a majority of people who indulge in that weirdness..

ask Mickey Rourke and Lil Kim

let's be honest....it was really just Michael and Latoya who went overboard with the plastic surgery.Janet may have had some work done,but it's not excessive.

SoulAlive said:

RJOrion said:

Jackson clan went WAY overboard with the facial surgeries though..

its quite frightening, sad, & funny, all at once...

and poor Jermaine puts some kinda black shoe polish on his hair and motor oil on his face...

Michael spent his final years on earth as a facially mutated freak show...

even though its seems to be accepted behavior in the entertainment industry, plastic surgery looks disgusting on a majority of people who indulge in that weirdness..

ask Mickey Rourke and Lil Kim

let's be honest....it was really just Michael and Latoya who went overboard with the plastic surgery.Janet may have had some work done,but it's not excessive.

Michael and LaToya were beyond gorgeous beforehand.

Janet coming out to The Jacksons concert to see her brothers perform!!!

BlackCat1985 said:

MattyJam said:

Michael's worst album (Invincible imo) is better than Janet's best. Michael was a genius. Janet was a good popstar. Lets keep some perspective here people.

In your dreams only...

I love invincible. And I don't disagree w/ michael being a genius, and janet being a a good (great) popstar. But if you can't hear 1814 eating Invincible for breakfast, you're missing half the fun.

MattyJam said:

Michael's worst album (Invincible imo) is better than Janet's best. Michael was a genius. Janet was a good popstar. Lets keep some perspective here people.

This makes me sad

I always thought of you as an objective and reasoned member of this forum with some interesting points of view.

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