Identity said:

Graycap23 said:

Sony bosses apologize for "mistakenly" raising Whitney Houston album prices. (after her passing)

From a business perspective, she's worth more to the corporate machine dead than alive. They undoubtedly are holding meetings right now on which methods to focus on to maximize music sales.

Well now that she's dead, there are no other options.

She'd be worth more alive if only to generate more music to sell after her eventual death.

What do you expect them to do? Not capitalize on an opportunity? It would be irresponsible not to.

Should they ignore the increased demand for her material? Why?

Identity said:

I'd always thought this memorable Diane Warren-penned song could have been a good Bond theme song.

But the Bond tradition is the title song bears the same name as the movie.

'I Learned From the Best,' isn't a Bond title.

SUPRMAN said:

deadmansbones said:

Well, I just don't know why she would need xanax and valium, and according to reports, those were in her possession. I don't they found any illegal drugs?

I just feel like... she spent multiple times in rehab. It's not like she NEVER went to rehab. There had to be a doctor, a counselor.. a professional to call when she started drinking again at least, much less anything else.

From what I read, she was in an out-patient program? Doesn't that mean she and her family had access to a counselor at least?

And apparently, as some of the conversation has indicated, a lot of people don't know what some of the drugs mixed with alcohol can do to your system. The don't really understand the danger even though there might be label warnings or even verbal warnings from a doctor.

Honestly, I just think people basically says.. "She's a grown ass woman..." and don't even try to intervene--not that intervening will necessarily save anyone. But at least a person has to dry.

But this comes from an intervener in a variety of situations. It's just the way I am.

As I said, if I had a friend in a similar situation as Whitney's you had better believe, I try even if I couldn't talk to her directly because she'd probably be...beligerant. I'd figure out a way to try to do something.

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What would you do to intervene with someone you couldn't talk to or was belligerent?

Knock drinks out of their hand all night?

You can't want it for them more than they want it for themselves.

Remember that. It will save you a lot of grief and guilt.

I think many people who want to call Whitney a victim should tune in for an episode of the A&E show 'Intervention'. Many of those addicts have very sad backstories but at the end of the day nobody is forcing them to do the drugs and at those interventions the ones who love them the most always have to let them know that if they continue to use they will be cut out of that family member's life forever and left to wonder the world alone. It sucks to have to divorce a loved one but it sucks even more to just stand back and watch helplessly as that loved one slowly kills him/herself from drug addiction. At the end of the day, Whitney was an addict...all the awards, fame, and fortune really shouldn't blind anyone to that fact. It's very sad how her life ended but it was preventable and she was her own worse enemy in the end for not realizing that the drugs and alcohol were not her salvation...sobriety was and she wasn't able to maintain that salvation and save herself from an untimely death.

HotGritz said:

Musicslave said:

I just saw the Pastor of New Hope Baptist Church saying that they MAY broadcast the service or portions of the service live. Sounds like the family hadn't decided on that one yet.

the hell? they done turned her into Elvis.

The problem is what do you do with the fans who will show up even understanding it is a private service.

Televising the service to an alternate location meets some of that demand.

Not doing so risk people showing up, acting a fool and disrupting the service.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

HotGritz said:

They all want to hear that. From the moment she passed, the first message spread by mainstream media and gossip rags alike was that she OD'd and on top of that they want to say she was broke.

Um yeah, you can produce a movie and buy a new home when you're broke.

I feel sorry for Bobbi Kristina. I hope to god the test don't come back that her mother overdosed. She is going to have to hear that rest of her life about her beautiful mother.

I don't think that would be a problem. She's been listening to people talk about her parents her entire life. She knows them as parents, family, people she knows, loves etc. She knows what she knows and that there is no obligation to correct ever story or inaccuracy.

If she's not immune by now . . . . .

vainandy said:

Musicslave said:

First let me say that I'm not joking when I ask this question.....What was Whitney's funkiest song she ever made? Did she have any obscure joint that most people overlooked and forgotten about? Just asking.....

I never bought a Whitney album, so I don't know if there's some album track that she had that was funky and everyone just forgot about it or what?

Damn I about choked on my drink! Oh Lord, y'all are gonna have to prepare for a double funeral this weekend because I'm dying up in here!

Yes, Andy, you lived to see 'Whitney' and 'funk' in the same sentence without a negative preceding the mention of 'funk(iest).

LMAO

SUPRMAN said:

deadmansbones said:

Well, I just don't know why she would need xanax and valium, and according to reports, those were in her possession. I don't they found any illegal drugs?

I just feel like... she spent multiple times in rehab. It's not like she NEVER went to rehab. There had to be a doctor, a counselor.. a professional to call when she started drinking again at least, much less anything else.

From what I read, she was in an out-patient program? Doesn't that mean she and her family had access to a counselor at least?

And apparently, as some of the conversation has indicated, a lot of people don't know what some of the drugs mixed with alcohol can do to your system. The don't really understand the danger even though there might be label warnings or even verbal warnings from a doctor.

Honestly, I just think people basically says.. "She's a grown ass woman..." and don't even try to intervene--not that intervening will necessarily save anyone. But at least a person has to dry.

But this comes from an intervener in a variety of situations. It's just the way I am.

As I said, if I had a friend in a similar situation as Whitney's you had better believe, I try even if I couldn't talk to her directly because she'd probably be...beligerant. I'd figure out a way to try to do something.

[Edited 2/15/12 8:39am]

What would you do to intervene with someone you couldn't talk to or was belligerent?

Knock drinks out of their hand all night?

You can't want it for them more than they want it for themselves.

Remember that. It will save you a lot of grief and guilt.

and there it is

musicjunky318 said:

Whitney never got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame?

You have to jump through hoops to get a star.

It probably didn't matter enough to her.

A star can't request their own star either if I recall correctly.

SUPRMAN said:

ladygirl99 said:

Again I never said she was murder but I am not ruling out anything.

And also I dont trust LAPD nor coroner reports for being but I give you props of trusting corrupt as LAPD. You continue to believe everything the police is telling the public while I am going to continue to think for myself .

Alrighty then . . . .

Cling to your conspiracy theories and reject all facts.

So let me get this straight - You don't trust anything anyone from the L.A. P.D. or coroner's office says about anything because they are all lies?

How are you going to determine the facts of the case since you can't do your own investigation of the body or the room, nor interview those who were with her?

Make it up I guess?

So according to your logic anyone who asking questions and is not trusting with LAPD (WHO YES ARE FACTS ARE Corrupt GOOGLE IT) are consider to be conspiracist , okay I am no longer going to reply to you its no point debating on this with you.

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SUPRMAN said:

Identity said:

I'd always thought this memorable Diane Warren-penned song could have been a good Bond theme song.

But the Bond tradition is the title song bears the same name as the movie.

'I Learned From the Best,' isn't a Bond title.

There have been exceptions to the rule. Here are some examples:

"Another Way to Die" – Jack White & Alicia Keys for Quantum of Solace

"You Know My Name" by Chris Cornell for Casino Royale

"All Time High" – Rita Coolidge for Octopussy

"Nobody Does It Better'' - Carly Simon for The Spy Who Loved Me

"We Have All the Time in the World" – Louis Armstrong for On Her Majesty's...

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What I want to know with all the medical advancement thats been going on in the last couple of decades why does it still take 6 to 8 weeks to get a toxicology report????

[Edited 2/15/12 19:05pm]

AlexdeParis said:

NaughtyKitty said:

'Glee': Watch Amber Riley Cover Whitney Houston's 'I Will Always Love You' (Video)

In a strange twist of fate, the Fox series had planned to feature the Dolly Parton song in Tuesday's Valentine's Day episode.

Supposedly they filmed this before Whitney's death.

They definitely filmed it before her death. Members of the cast were mentioning it on Twitter Saturday.

I loved it. Of course, I'm one of the few on here who enjoys Glee in general.

She's in love with Chord Overstreet? Dream On!

RnBAmbassador said:

Whitney was up for one in 1995, but none of her handlers got back with the board that does such ceremonies.

Yes. That's what CNN confirmed with the Hollywood Chamber on Mon.

ladygirl99 said:

SUPRMAN said:

Alrighty then . . . .

Cling to your conspiracy theories and reject all facts.

So let me get this straight - You don't trust anything anyone from the L.A. P.D. or coroner's office says about anything because they are all lies?

How are you going to determine the facts of the case since you can't do your own investigation of the body or the room, nor interview those who were with her?

Make it up I guess?

So according to your logic anyone who asking questions and is not trusting with LAPD (WHO YES ARE FACTS ARE Corrupt GOOGLE IT) are consider to be conspiracist , okay I am no longer going to reply to you its no point debating on this with you.

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Not at all.

You don't trust the police so where are you going to get your facts from?

No reason to trust police reports. How do you speak to everyone they spoke to? Who do you know who can or has?

If you don't trust the coroner's report, who else examined the body and took blood and tissue samples?

Just to believe anyone just because they aren't the LAPD or Coroner doesn't add up.

How do they get their information?

Identity said:

SUPRMAN said:

But the Bond tradition is the title song bears the same name as the movie.

'I Learned From the Best,' isn't a Bond title.

There have been exceptions to the rule. Here are some examples:

"Another Way to Die" – Jack White & Alicia Keys for Quantum of Solace

"You Know My Name" by Chris Cornell for Casino Royale

"All Time High" – Rita Coolidge for Octopussy

"Nobody Does It Better'' - Carly Simon for The Spy Who Loved Me

"We Have All the Time in the World" – Louis Armstrong for On Her Majesty's...

[Edited 2/15/12 19:12pm]

The last two seem to be deliberate transgressions.

I knew it wasn't all Bond movies.

lazycrockett said:

What I want to know with all the medical advancement thats been going on in the last couple of decades why does it still take 6 to 8 weeks to get a toxicology report????

[Edited 2/15/12 19:05pm]

Limited number of certified facilities and certified technicians to do the tests.

The tests have to be valid in a legal proceeding.

Get in line . . . .

[Edited 2/15/12 19:30pm]

Whitney Houston's Death Certificate Released

http://news.yahoo.com/whi...-news.html

lazycrockett said:

What I want to know with all the medical advancement thats been going on in the last couple of decades why does it still take 6 to 8 weeks to get a toxicology report????

[Edited 2/15/12 19:05pm]

That's what I wanted to know... I forgot how long it was before you-know-who's report came out.

A large image of Whitney displayed on the side of the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J., Feb. 14, 2012. (AP)

Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

What I want to know with all the medical advancement thats been going on in the last couple of decades why does it still take 6 to 8 weeks to get a toxicology report????

[Edited 2/15/12 19:05pm]

That's what I wanted to know... I forgot how long it was before you-know-who's report came out.

mid to late august from what I recall, so that's about 6-8 weeks, I remember where I was when the headline came out and going to the washroom to cry :*( ugh

SUPRMAN said:

lazycrockett said:

What I want to know with all the medical advancement thats been going on in the last couple of decades why does it still take 6 to 8 weeks to get a toxicology report????

[Edited 2/15/12 19:05pm]

Limited number of certified facilities and certified technicians to do the tests.

The tests have to be valid in a legal proceeding.

Get in line . . . .

[Edited 2/15/12 19:30pm]

The Truth About Toxicology Tests

Why do the forensic toxicology tests take so long?

Getting a complete and accurate forensic toxicology test result can be a lengthy process for a variety of reasons, according to the College of American Pathologists and experts interviewed by WebMD.

There may be a lot of specimens that need to be tested, which means more testing time. And as an investigation proceeds, information about the possibility of another drug being involved may surface, so even more testing may be needed.

When the first round of positive tests have to be confirmed by the more sophisticated method, this may require sending out the specimens to more specialized laboratories. And that adds to the delay.

"Four to six weeks is pretty standard," Magnani says of the time line for forensic toxicology testing. Besides the time needed for painstaking analysis and confirmation, she says, there could be a backlog of tests that need to be done at a particular laboratory.

"Each one should be handled thoroughly, whether they are a celebrity or not," she says.

How do the toxicology reports help determine cause of death?

Experts look to see if the concentration of drugs or poisons are in the toxic or lethal range, Magnani says. They take into account other information, such as symptoms before their death.

For instance, she recalls a man who passed out and when roused by police was so belligerent it took several officers to subdue him. Then he died suddenly.

No physical findings from the autopsy pointed to a cause of death, she says. ''The toxicology report showed the presence of cocaine at a level sufficient to cause death," she says. And the belligerent behavior was another clue.

But not every toxicology report is so clear-cut, Robin says. And television really does present a skewed view of forensic toxicology testing, he and other experts agree.

"At the end of the [TV crime] show, they don't say it's an indeterminate cause of death," he says. But in real life? "Two to five percent of deaths are indeterminate," Robin says, citing forensic literature.

What complicates the process? Drugs of abuse can change constantly, Robin says, with one drug becoming popular, for instance, while others fade in popularity. "You are always looking for what is the new drug [of choice]," he says.

read page 2-3: http://www.webmd.com/ment...sts?page=3

^ Hmm you-know-who died on June 25 and it came out in August...

So February 11... the toxicology reports will come sometime in mid-April then if it gets to six weeks or late March if it's four.

I think Ike Turner and Rick James' toxicology reports took a while too to come out.

The preliminary results was, for Ike, emphysema, and Rick, a heart attack. It didn't become known the real cause of Ike's death until sometime in January or February 2008 (he died in December 2007) and it said he died of a cocaine overdose but he did have problems with emphysema and, allegedly, bipolar disorder (which has been in dispute for a while) while Rick's bloodstream included cocaine but said that he didn't overdose on cocaine that it was indeed a heart attack.

In the case of Whitney, and I guess it relates to you-know-who than Rick and Ike, it seems a little mysterious because they're trying to be clear on what really sent Whitney on outta here. But they may decide if in fact her death was caused by a deadly mix of alcohol and prescription pills (as the coroner allegedly told Whitney's family), they may have to determine what was in her bloodstream.

Timmy84 said:

I think Ike Turner and Rick James' toxicology reports took a while too to come out.

The preliminary results was, for Ike, emphysema, and Rick, a heart attack. It didn't become known the real cause of Ike's death until sometime in January or February 2008 (he died in December 2007) and it said he died of a cocaine overdose but he did have problems with emphysema and, allegedly, bipolar disorder (which has been in dispute for a while) while Rick's bloodstream included cocaine but said that he didn't overdose on cocaine that it was indeed a heart attack.

In the case of Whitney, and I guess it relates to you-know-who than Rick and Ike, it seems a little mysterious because they're trying to be clear on what really sent Whitney on outta here. But they may decide if in fact her death was caused by a deadly mix of alcohol and prescription pills (as the coroner allegedly told Whitney's family), they may have to determine what was in her bloodstream.

The coroner could have clues from the contents of her stomach. Maybe that's why she was eating two sandwiches to put something in her stomach?

Theory: She had the champagne at breakfast or earlier in the day. She has a beer with the burger, pops a pill, goes to relax in the tub. Water's hot, she feels lightheaded and lays back against the tub. Blood pressure drops and she falls asleep, heart goes into cardiac arrest, she dies without waking and slides under the water.

SUPRMAN said:

Timmy84 said:

I think Ike Turner and Rick James' toxicology reports took a while too to come out.

The preliminary results was, for Ike, emphysema, and Rick, a heart attack. It didn't become known the real cause of Ike's death until sometime in January or February 2008 (he died in December 2007) and it said he died of a cocaine overdose but he did have problems with emphysema and, allegedly, bipolar disorder (which has been in dispute for a while) while Rick's bloodstream included cocaine but said that he didn't overdose on cocaine that it was indeed a heart attack.

In the case of Whitney, and I guess it relates to you-know-who than Rick and Ike, it seems a little mysterious because they're trying to be clear on what really sent Whitney on outta here. But they may decide if in fact her death was caused by a deadly mix of alcohol and prescription pills (as the coroner allegedly told Whitney's family), they may have to determine what was in her bloodstream.

The coroner could have clues from the contents of her stomach. Maybe that's why she was eating two sandwiches to put something in her stomach?

Theory: She had the champagne at breakfast or earlier in the day. She has a beer with the burger, pops a pill, goes to relax in the tub. Water's hot, she feels lightheaded and lays back against the tub. Blood pressure drops and she falls asleep, heart goes into cardiac arrest, she dies without waking and slides under the water.

Even if she had had food, they wouldn't have to go through all of that especially since the death sounds drug and alcohol related so it's different from those who die from "natural causes".

If she has slipped under the water, wouldnt there be water in her lungs? even if she went into cardiac arrest and died instantly some water would have traveled into her lungs. That should have been found during the autopsy.

lazycrockett said:

If she has slipped under the water, wouldnt there be water in her lungs? even if she went into cardiac arrest and died instantly some water would have traveled into her lungs. That should have been found during the autopsy.

There was water in her lungs, but not enough to rule it an accidental drowning. They think she died before she went under water.

Musicslave said:

First let me say that I'm not joking when I ask this question.....What was Whitney's funkiest song she ever made? Did she have any obscure joint that most people overlooked and forgotten about? Just asking.....

I never bought a Whitney album, so I don't know if there's some album track that she had that was funky and everyone just forgot about it or what

The Kashif produced "Thinking About You" off her first album and the Laface produced "Who Do You Love" off the I'm Your Baby Tonight album are the closest Whitney ever came to gettin' funky IMO.

lazycrockett said:

If she has slipped under the water, wouldnt there be water in her lungs? even if she went into cardiac arrest and died instantly some water would have traveled into her lungs. That should have been found during the autopsy.

Little water was found in her lungs so they dispute the claim that her death was due to drowning. If it had been drowning, they would've told the family that they were under the impression that she drowned. And that if she drowned then she may have bumped her head in the tub, got a massive head injury and then died as the water filled up the tub and her face was submerged. From the timeline of events, I'm getting an accidental overdose due to a lethal mix of alcohol and pills.

K didnt know. So basically after 20 years of abuse her heart gave out after one final push.