SoulAlive said:

@INTERSCOPEPROMO Interscope Promotion

Yes Fans #Madonna's "Gimme All Your Luvin' is Now being released
to US radio on Friday 2/3 at 12:01 AM PST. U will hear before SuperBowl!

I'm not surprised that the song will be released prior to her Super Bowl performance. She should get a better reaction that way. Everyone will have digested the song by then. She is really giving a freakin clinic on how to best market and promote your shit.

Granted, everyone doesn't have the advantage of being Madonna in the first place but she (they) seem to be making all the right moves. The only potential downfall of course is if the song suck You still have to deliver a hot song when all of the hype is said and done.

Musicslave said:

SoulAlive said:

@INTERSCOPEPROMO Interscope Promotion

Yes Fans #Madonna's "Gimme All Your Luvin' is Now being released
to US radio on Friday 2/3 at 12:01 AM PST. U will hear before SuperBowl!

I'm not surprised that the song will be released prior to her Super Bowl performance. She should get a better reaction that way. Everyone will have digested the song by then. She is really giving a freakin clinic on how to best market and promote your shit.

Granted, everyone doesn't have the advantage of being Madonna in the first place but she (they) seem to be making all the right moves. The only potential downfall of course is if the song suck You still have to deliver a hot song when all of the hype is said and done.

100% and therein lies the problem. I smell "American Life" (the title song) part 2. people will be vicious on this one...it has a very catchy chorus but unless that demo is totally reworked it's going to flop hard as fuck. it's not up to her normal first single standards.

badujunkie said:

100% and therein lies the problem. I smell "American Life" (the title song) part 2. people will be vicious on this one...it has a very catchy chorus but unless that demo is totally reworked it's going to flop hard as fuck. it's not up to her normal first single standards.

Are you the person who kept saying she was never going to release another full-length album?

I'm going to keep asking until somebody fesses up.

Cerebus said:

badujunkie said:

100% and therein lies the problem. I smell "American Life" (the title song) part 2. people will be vicious on this one...it has a very catchy chorus but unless that demo is totally reworked it's going to flop hard as fuck. it's not up to her normal first single standards.

Are you the person who kept saying she was never going to release another full-length album?

I'm going to keep asking until somebody fesses up.

No. I am like the 3rd or 4th biggest M supporter on here and i maintain that she has never made a BAD album - EVER - (can't say the same for MJ, Prince, Tina or Jan much as i love em all) but that her first single choices are often wack (she wanted Candy Shop .. and then chose an even worse song, 4 minutes last time out). i think 'frozen' is HOT but there were so many better songs that could have kicked off the ROL era. The only time she got the first single right was with "Music" and "hung up" imo. in her older releases she didn't have the control to choose, im sure. but anything post 1998 or so i would think she had the choice...

Are you kidding? "4 Minutes" was a perfect choice for first single.That song had all the ingredients for a Top 10 smash in 2008.It's not one of her best singles,but i can't imagine any other song on Hard Candy being the first single.

SoulAlive said:

Are you kidding? "4 Minutes" was a perfect choice for first single.That song had all the ingredients for a Top 10 smash in 2008.It's not one of her best singles,but i can't imagine any other song on Hard Candy being the first single.

you've GOT to be kidding me. that song and video unseated my die hard fandom for a good year. for the first and only time since 1984 or 1985. and im 30.

badujunkie said:

SoulAlive said:

Are you kidding? "4 Minutes" was a perfect choice for first single.That song had all the ingredients for a Top 10 smash in 2008.It's not one of her best singles,but i can't imagine any other song on Hard Candy being the first single.

you've GOT to be kidding me. that song and video unseated my die hard fandom for a good year. for the first and only time since 1984 or 1985. and im 30.

OK...pick another first single from that album I bet you it wouldn't have been nearly as successful as "4 Minutes".

SoulAlive said:

badujunkie said:

you've GOT to be kidding me. that song and video unseated my die hard fandom for a good year. for the first and only time since 1984 or 1985. and im 30.

OK...pick another first single from that album I bet you it wouldn't have been nearly as successful as "4 Minutes".

Beat Goes On.

badujunkie said:

SoulAlive said:

OK...pick another first single from that album I bet you it wouldn't have been nearly as successful as "4 Minutes".

Beat Goes On.

that would have been a great second single

SoulAlive said:

badujunkie said:

Beat Goes On.

that would have been a great second single

I still don't understand why she made a very modern song featuring Kanye West but to not release it as a single. That's so un-modern Madonna.

aardvark15 said:

SoulAlive said:

that would have been a great second single

I still don't understand why she made a very modern song featuring Kanye West but to not release it as a single. That's so un-modern Madonna.

because the record label honchos who shoved her down a more 'urban' route for Hard Candy only saw dollar signs at the mere notion of M featuring Justin and Timbaland. thus they chose the track they thought would be just dumb and central enough to appeal to the tastes of top 40 pop and rhythmic radio - and ultimately 4 minutes is a club song. I think she felt like ok this single I am the 'hook' girl for Timbaland AND JT - let me do more of my own thing but still feature my favorite collaborator Pharrell on the 2nd single which was the brilliant "Give it to Me" MILES AWAY better than the first single 4 min. she didnt want to seem to draw out BOTH Pharell AND Kanye for the second single...but I say that would have been even more popular than 4 min had it been the first single. Imagine her hitting the urban dance scene with a one-two punch of Beat Goes on (lead single) then "heartbeat" (naturally the rap remix would include more Pharrell - and then single 3 could have been the (edited) irresistible, beat knocking and beautiful stranger breakdown MONSTER "Incredible" -- follow that up with a promo - only "Candy Shop" and maybe the actual GOOD timbo duet "Dance 2nite" and it would be one of her biggest records.

MDNA---the sensational new album by Madonna.Available everywhere in late March

badujunkie said:

aardvark15 said:

I still don't understand why she made a very modern song featuring Kanye West but to not release it as a single. That's so un-modern Madonna.

because the record label honchos who shoved her down a more 'urban' route for Hard Candy only saw dollar signs at the mere notion of M featuring Justin and Timbaland. thus they chose the track they thought would be just dumb and central enough to appeal to the tastes of top 40 pop and rhythmic radio - and ultimately 4 minutes is a club song. I think she felt like ok this single I am the 'hook' girl for Timbaland AND JT - let me do more of my own thing but still feature my favorite collaborator Pharrell on the 2nd single which was the brilliant "Give it to Me" MILES AWAY better than the first single 4 min. she didnt want to seem to draw out BOTH Pharell AND Kanye for the second single...but I say that would have been even more popular than 4 min had it been the first single. Imagine her hitting the urban dance scene with a one-two punch of Beat Goes on (lead single) then "heartbeat" (naturally the rap remix would include more Pharrell - and then single 3 could have been the (edited) irresistible, beat knocking and beautiful stranger breakdown MONSTER "Incredible" -- follow that up with a promo - only "Candy Shop" and maybe the actual GOOD timbo duet "Dance 2nite" and it would be one of her biggest records.

You do realize that "4 Minutes" became her biggest hit single since "Vogue",right? Releasing it as the first single made perfect sense (from a commercial standpoint).The song peaked at Number Three and with a little clever manuevuring by Warners,it could have easily reached Number One.It was her most commercial single in years.Imo,these should have been the singles from Hard Candy (in this order)...

4 Minutes---the most 'obvious' hit single on the album

Beat Goes On---They should have released this as a single one week before the album came out (while "4 Minutes" was still in the Top 10).With a really cool video featuring Kanye West and Pharrell,there is no way that this song would have been ignored by US radio.It would have followed "4 Minutes" into the Top 10 with no problem.

Miles Away---Yes,this was actually was released as the third single,but with very little promotion.Madonna should have filmed an amazing,dramatic video.For their part,Warners should have thrown some promotional muscle behind this song.The single edit was weak,as were the remixes.

She's Not Me---A fun,catchy song with an early 80s funk/R&B sound.With a good single edit and an eye-catching video,there is no reason why this song couldn't have done well too.Maybe not Top 10,but definitely Top 40.

I think Devil Wouldn't Recognize You could have possibly been a fifth single,but really,four well-chosen singles would have been enough.

If my 49ers go to the Super Bowl,I'm gonna be ecstatic This will be the greatest SuperBowl ever!

SoulAlive said:

Let's keep this thread on topic,please This discussion is about Madonna's new album,not her arms!

Ikr? Thank you.

Like how many times can you say the same shit over and over - we get it. You don't like her arms. No one agrees with you, and no one gives a shit what you think, and it's not even on-topic, in the first place...

And ... that MDNA cover is an eyegasm. I actually scrolled up a few times to look at it again and that's a good sign cuz I almost never do double-takes.

SoulAlive said:

badujunkie said:

because the record label honchos who shoved her down a more 'urban' route for Hard Candy only saw dollar signs at the mere notion of M featuring Justin and Timbaland. thus they chose the track they thought would be just dumb and central enough to appeal to the tastes of top 40 pop and rhythmic radio - and ultimately 4 minutes is a club song. I think she felt like ok this single I am the 'hook' girl for Timbaland AND JT - let me do more of my own thing but still feature my favorite collaborator Pharrell on the 2nd single which was the brilliant "Give it to Me" MILES AWAY better than the first single 4 min. she didnt want to seem to draw out BOTH Pharell AND Kanye for the second single...but I say that would have been even more popular than 4 min had it been the first single. Imagine her hitting the urban dance scene with a one-two punch of Beat Goes on (lead single) then "heartbeat" (naturally the rap remix would include more Pharrell - and then single 3 could have been the (edited) irresistible, beat knocking and beautiful stranger breakdown MONSTER "Incredible" -- follow that up with a promo - only "Candy Shop" and maybe the actual GOOD timbo duet "Dance 2nite" and it would be one of her biggest records.

You do realize that "4 Minutes" became her biggest hit single since "Vogue",right? Releasing it as the first single made perfect sense (from a commercial standpoint).The song peaked at Number Three and with a little clever manuevuring by Warners,it could have easily reached Number One.It was her most commercial single in years.Imo,these should have been the singles from Hard Candy (in this order)...

4 Minutes---the most 'obvious' hit single on the album

Beat Goes On---They should have released this as a single one week before the album came out (while "4 Minutes" was still in the Top 10).With a really cool video featuring Kanye West and Pharrell,there is no way that this song would have been ignored by US radio.It would have followed "4 Minutes" into the Top 10 with no problem.

Miles Away---Yes,this was actually was released as the third single,but with very little promotion.Madonna should have filmed an amazing,dramatic video.For their part,Warners should have thrown some promotional muscle behind this song.The single edit was weak,as were the remixes.

She's Not Me---A fun,catchy song with an early 80s funk/R&B sound.With a good single edit and an eye-catching video,there is no reason why this song couldn't have done well too.Maybe not Top 10,but definitely Top 40.

I think Devil Wouldn't Recognize You could have possibly been a fifth single,but really,four well-chosen singles would have been enough.

biggest hit since Vogue? I don't think it counts. It was with TIMBERLAKE AND TIMBALAND. In 2006-7-2008, maybe even 2009, Timbo & Timber could have put out a song with Teena Marie (no disrepect Lady T) and it would have been as big as 'Vogue.' I am saying it took away from the madonnaness from the album, the hype, etc, and it made her seem in the end like a bigger novelty/old school act than ever by relying on them for a hit. The album is her lowest selling stateside and i think even worldwide besides "American Life" - fuck, "you can dance" has sold more. i dont think 13 year olds downloading 4 minutes make hard candy a success, and just CREATIVELY, i think it was BAD. just this long time lifelong hard core fan's opinion.

"Hung up" was ALL MADONNA, and 50x better than 4M, and only 3 years earlier made the top ten on it's own when dance music was getting zero airplay, and i think people respect her for that song and consider it the last madonna 'hit' (in the US) - Beat Goes on had a verse from Kanye and backgrounds from Pharrell, but featured much more M and could have been "Holiday" or "Hung up" for 2008 is my point...

no ? it's fun for me to debate you - someone smart up in here! love you DE.

[Edited 1/18/12 7:05am]

SoulAlive said:

MDNA---the sensational new album by Madonna.Available everywhere in late March

badujunkie said:

SoulAlive said:

You do realize that "4 Minutes" became her biggest hit single since "Vogue",right? Releasing it as the first single made perfect sense (from a commercial standpoint).The song peaked at Number Three and with a little clever manuevuring by Warners,it could have easily reached Number One.It was her most commercial single in years.Imo,these should have been the singles from Hard Candy (in this order)...

4 Minutes---the most 'obvious' hit single on the album

Beat Goes On---They should have released this as a single one week before the album came out (while "4 Minutes" was still in the Top 10).With a really cool video featuring Kanye West and Pharrell,there is no way that this song would have been ignored by US radio.It would have followed "4 Minutes" into the Top 10 with no problem.

Miles Away---Yes,this was actually was released as the third single,but with very little promotion.Madonna should have filmed an amazing,dramatic video.For their part,Warners should have thrown some promotional muscle behind this song.The single edit was weak,as were the remixes.

She's Not Me---A fun,catchy song with an early 80s funk/R&B sound.With a good single edit and an eye-catching video,there is no reason why this song couldn't have done well too.Maybe not Top 10,but definitely Top 40.

I think Devil Wouldn't Recognize You could have possibly been a fifth single,but really,four well-chosen singles would have been enough.

biggest hit since Vogue? I don't think it counts. It was with TIMBERLAKE AND TIMBALAND. In 2006-7-2008, maybe even 2009, Timbo & Timber could have put out a song with Teena Marie (no disrepect Lady T) and it would have been as big as 'Vogue.' I am saying it took away from the madonnaness from the album, the hype, etc, and it made her seem in the end like a bigger novelty/old school act than ever by relying on them for a hit. The album is her lowest selling stateside and i think even worldwide besides "American Life" - fuck, "you can dance" has sold more. i dont think 13 year olds downloading 4 minutes make hard candy a success, and just CREATIVELY, i think it was BAD. just this long time lifelong hard core fan's opinion.

"Hung up" was ALL MADONNA, and 50x better than 4M, and only 3 years earlier made the top ten on it's own when dance music was getting zero airplay, and i think people respect her for that song and consider it the last madonna 'hit' (in the US) - Beat Goes on had a verse from Kanye and backgrounds from Pharrell, but featured much more M and could have been "Holiday" or "Hung up" for 2008 is my point...

no ? it's fun for me to debate you - someone smart up in here! love you DE.

Album sales have very little to do with the quality of the music It's very likely that 'MDNA' will sell less copies than Hard Candy.That's the way the business is these days.Why do you think Madonna is involved in so many other business ventures? As for "4 Minutes"....I'm not saying that it was this great,outstanding single that ranks up there with her best work.I'm just saying that it was the PERFECT choice for first single.There was no way that U.S. radio would ignore a song like that.It's the only 'recent' Madonna single that most people know about (it appealed to many people outside of her usual fanbase)..Sure,"Hung Up" is a terrific song but it didn't have the same commercial impact of "4 Minutes" (at least not here in the States).

"Beat Goes On" is a superb song,but I think it should have been the second single.At least we agree on the merits of this song,lol

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SoulAlive said:

MDNA---the sensational new album by Madonna.Available everywhere in late March

WOW.

Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:

MDNA---the sensational new album by Madonna.Available everywhere in late March

WOW.

It's not real of course, but yeah... wow.. I really love this.

xLiberiangirl said:

Timmy84 said:

WOW.

It's not real of course, but yeah... wow.. I really love this.

SoulAlive said:

badujunkie said:

biggest hit since Vogue? I don't think it counts. It was with TIMBERLAKE AND TIMBALAND. In 2006-7-2008, maybe even 2009, Timbo & Timber could have put out a song with Teena Marie (no disrepect Lady T) and it would have been as big as 'Vogue.' I am saying it took away from the madonnaness from the album, the hype, etc, and it made her seem in the end like a bigger novelty/old school act than ever by relying on them for a hit. The album is her lowest selling stateside and i think even worldwide besides "American Life" - fuck, "you can dance" has sold more. i dont think 13 year olds downloading 4 minutes make hard candy a success, and just CREATIVELY, i think it was BAD. just this long time lifelong hard core fan's opinion.

"Hung up" was ALL MADONNA, and 50x better than 4M, and only 3 years earlier made the top ten on it's own when dance music was getting zero airplay, and i think people respect her for that song and consider it the last madonna 'hit' (in the US) - Beat Goes on had a verse from Kanye and backgrounds from Pharrell, but featured much more M and could have been "Holiday" or "Hung up" for 2008 is my point...

no ? it's fun for me to debate you - someone smart up in here! love you DE.

Album sales have very little to do with the quality of the music It's very likely that 'MDNA' will sell less copies than Hard Candy.That's the way the business is these days.Why do you think Madonna is involved in so many other business ventures? As for "4 Minutes"....I'm not saying that it was this great,outstanding single that ranks up there with her best work.I'm just saying that it was the PERFECT choice for first single.There was no way that U.S. radio would ignore a song like that.It's the only 'recent' Madonna single that most people know about (it appealed to many people outside of her usual fanbase)..Sure,"Hung Up" is a terrific song but it didn't have the same commercial impact of "4 Minutes" (at least not here in the States).

"Beat Goes On" is a superb song,but I think it should have been the second single.At least we agree on the merits of this song,lol

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I still totally disagree but I get what you're saying. For selling copies of the song on itunes and getting played on the radio, yes, that song was the best choice for the SHORT TERM of the project. Long term, not so much...

Timmy84 said:

xLiberiangirl said:

It's not real of course, but yeah... wow.. I really love this.

Damn I thought it was real! Just release it Madonna!

Billboard magazine album preview:

Madonna
Title: "M.D.N.A." | Release Date: March

Madonna scored her first top 20 Billboard Hot 100 hit in 1983 with "Holiday" -- and she's been on the move ever since. One of the music industry's few career artists, the singer/songwriter/producer/entrepreneur -- in tandem with longtime manager Guy Oseary ( @guyoseary) -- possesses an innate sense when it comes to reading the pulse of the industry and what her fans want.

Following November rumors, it was formally announced in December that the singer had inked a three-album pact with Interscope -- at a base of $1 million per album. This is in addition to her continuing the 10-year multirights album deal with Live Nation signed in 2007, which is reported to be worth as much as $100 million.

During her three-decade career, Madonna's Nielsen SoundScan-era (1991-present) U.S. album sales stand at 26.9 million, and she holds the record for the most successful tour by a solo artist, according to Billboard Boxscore. The seven-time Grammy Award winner is also a Rock and Roll of Fame inductee. Her last album, 2008's Hard Candy, debuted at No. 1 in 27 countries.

The first studio album under Madonna's new pact -- and first since leaving longtime label Warner Bros. after Hard Candy -- will be released in late March. The yet-untitled set finds Madonna collaborating with producers Martin Solveig and William Orbit. Through spokeswoman Liz Rosenberg, Madonna told Billboard that she's "thrilled" to be collaborating again with Orbit, who co-produced her 1998 album, "Ray of Light."

Also in December, the singer completed the Megaforce-directed video for the new album's first single, "Gimme ...ur Luvin'." Featuring Nicki Minaj and M.I.A., the single arrives the last week of January -- just ahead of Madonna's buzzed-about performance at Super Bowl XLVI's halftime show on Feb. 5. With Cirque du Soleil, Moment Factory and Jamie King in tow as collaborators, the performance is sure to be memorable.

purplethunder3121 said:

SoulAlive said:

MDNA---the sensational new album by Madonna.Available everywhere in late March

Why do fans always come up with the best covers? Send this to her company NOW.

badujunkie said:

SoulAlive said:

Album sales have very little to do with the quality of the music It's very likely that 'MDNA' will sell less copies than Hard Candy.That's the way the business is these days.Why do you think Madonna is involved in so many other business ventures? As for "4 Minutes"....I'm not saying that it was this great,outstanding single that ranks up there with her best work.I'm just saying that it was the PERFECT choice for first single.There was no way that U.S. radio would ignore a song like that.It's the only 'recent' Madonna single that most people know about (it appealed to many people outside of her usual fanbase)..Sure,"Hung Up" is a terrific song but it didn't have the same commercial impact of "4 Minutes" (at least not here in the States).

"Beat Goes On" is a superb song,but I think it should have been the second single.At least we agree on the merits of this song,lol

I still totally disagree but I get what you're saying. For selling copies of the song on itunes and getting played on the radio, yes, that song was the best choice for the SHORT TERM of the project. Long term, not so much...

It's no coincidence that,on the Sticky and Sweet tour,Madonna performed "Vogue" with the music of "4 Minutes" think about it....

SoulAlive said:

Are you kidding? "4 Minutes" was a perfect choice for first single.That song had all the ingredients for a Top 10 smash in 2008.It's not one of her best singles,but i can't imagine any other song on Hard Candy being the first single.

considering what's on the album, yeah, I suppose it's the obvious choice for first single. but that's not saying much. it's a horrible song.

Beat Goes On should have been a single. Probably the first. At least the second. Give It 2 Me was a good single too, except they edited out the wrong parts ("get stupid, get stupid" should have been cut out. at the very least some of the repetition of it.)

I think "Give It 2 Me" is a good single,but not for the American market.It should have been a European single.

"Beat Goes On"---second single in America

"Give It 2 Me"---second single in other countries