Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Great point Timmy! I mean, when you have released albums for nearly your entire life (solo or otherwise) hell it's hard to keep focusing and worrying about if an album is gonna sell or appeal to an audience. Everybody has done it or is doing it. You can't satisfy everyone else I guess!

Exactly. Don't know why folks think Michael is the only one. Look at Todd Rundgren, he hardly focused on his album before being inspired and moving on to the next album and we all know how James Brown treated albums! Releasing 10 in one year lmao

OK! And in Michael's case to me, he was still releasing quality material well after the 1970s and 1980s. His discography (with The Jackson 5 and Jacksons included) is not really all that spotty. Dangerous, HIStory, Invincible and even the HIStory In The Mix were great albums and they did attract many people. People just don't give correct credit where it's due.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

I agree with what you said about MJ stans worrying too much about sales, certifications and honorary stuff. I'm a hardcore MJ admirer, but I never quite worried about whether albums sold more than others, who was breaking MJ's record and all that jazz. But it's nothing new really.

Now, this whole thing you said about MJ's discography not attaining the same respect from contemporaries is just atrocious. I don't understand what your point is. Clearly, Michael always wanted his work post-Off The Wall to be the biggest, the best ever. Whether people understood it or trashed it, I feel like it was their personal gripe with what MJ was doing either professionally or personally (mostly personally). They weren't worried about the artistic value of the work. Instead, they criticized MJ or some gimmick like sales.

[Edited 8/7/11 14:51pm]

Plus can't we make an argument that both Prince AND Stevie Wonder gave much less of a FUCK about their LATEST projects?! I mean if you're gonna criticize Michael for not focusing on one particular album, might as well every other artist who just plain GIVES UP on an album after ONE WEEK/MONTH!

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

Exactly. Don't know why folks think Michael is the only one. Look at Todd Rundgren, he hardly focused on his album before being inspired and moving on to the next album and we all know how James Brown treated albums! Releasing 10 in one year lmao

OK! And in Michael's case to me, he was still releasing quality material well after the 1970s and 1980s. His discography (with The Jackson 5 and Jacksons included) is not really all that spotty. Dangerous, HIStory, Invincible and even the HIStory In The Mix were great albums and they did attract many people. People just don't give correct credit where it's due.

Exactly.

armpit said:

Why the hell do MJ fans even care if Perry outsells MJ or not? MJ fans are always so anal about sales. Plenty of bullshit sells like hotcakes, and plenty of really good music doesn't even go platinum.

And MJ's discography doesn't get the same respect in terms of the quality of the re-releases like U2 because MJ didn't approach his work from the same mindspace as U2. He made it hard for people to respect his own work because he didn't show a lot of respect for it, himself. It was kinda hard for people to take the man's stuff seriously when he was taking some of his best work and releasing shitty-ass videos for it that were more about how many celebs he could get to do cameos (the "Liberian Girl" video) and shit like that; or parading giant statues of himself down rivers to promote his cd and all that bullshit, and how when the anniversary of his most successful work rolled around, he consented to a bunch of no-talent pop-fuckers remaking the tracks and essentially ruining them in the process.

I think all artists have missteps in their career. I mean look at U2 that you bring up. Does it mean that because they featured boy bands in a video clip (Sweetest Thing) or launched albums in department stores (Pop Mart) or wanted to have the biggest live show (Achtung onwards) that they didn't have the same respect for the music they were producing then to say The Unforgetable Fire?

Music, rightly or wrongly, is nowdays about entertainment not just how good the music is. And almost every artist has done something sucky when it comes to promoting it - Metalica in suits anyone?

mjforever said:

Cascio / MJ - Burn tonight

http://www.mediafire.com/...n4j3w4dfv4

mjforever said:

Cascio / MJ - Burn tonight

http://www.mediafire.com/...n4j3w4dfv4

What a disgrace.

mjforever said:

A man cannot get any hotter than that.

armpit said:

Why the hell do MJ fans even care if Perry outsells MJ or not? MJ fans are always so anal about sales.

Who cares? That's their business.

armpit said:

And MJ's discography doesn't get the same respect in terms of the quality of the re-releases like U2 because MJ didn't approach his work from the same mindspace as U2. He made it hard for people to respect his own work because he didn't show a lot of respect for it, himself. It was kinda hard for people to take the man's stuff seriously when he was taking some of his best work and releasing shitty-ass videos for it that were more about how many celebs he could get to do cameos (the "Liberian Girl" video) and shit like that; or parading giant statues of himself down rivers to promote his cd and all that bullshit, and how when the anniversary of his most successful work rolled around, he consented to a bunch of no-talent pop-fuckers remaking the tracks and essentially ruining them in the process.

This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen in this thread is a good long while. It's just seeping with bullshit. You've really been on a roll as of late.

So how true is this? i've just had a look over at michaeljackson.com and people are putting Burn Tonight on their wish list wtf!

bigd74 said:

So how true is this? i've just had a look over at michaeljackson.com and people are putting Burn Tonight on their wish list wtf!

i would have to say not very true..as far as i know the next album is a greatest hits album in 2011, the album is supposed to have all(most) of michaels hits along with unreleased songs.. to find out more google "michael jackson album 2012..

^^^

MJ was working on a song called "I'm Still The King"?

Hmmm, anyhow that whole wiki article sounds so fake. I don't think any of that is true.

I doubt it's true.

Cinnamon234 said:

^^^

MJ was working on a song called "I'm Still The King"?

Hmmm, anyhow that whole wiki article sounds so fake. I don't think any of that is true.

Yep, he was, with Will.i.am. What a desperate mofo he was.

Who? MJ or will.i.am?

alphastreet said:

Who? MJ or will.i.am?

Mike.

I don't think he was working on it, he probably said that to push buttons mikey WAS a prankster, that's why I love him

I watched that will.i.am clip of the studio again after so many years. I believed then and believe now that it was all a setup to keep his name in the papers in a good way, with WMA's approaching at the time. I was trying not to laugh when MJ was describing how he dissects music though I always loved his metaphors...heck, I think HE looked like he was trying not to laugh, and same with will.i.am sitting there calling MJ the king, and then, it was all quiet

mjforever said:

tangerine7 said:

Please someone help me out I'm trying to find a video that was on youtube not so long ago and I'm pretty sure it was posted here in one of the MJ threads too.. where Michael was in (maybe) a music store and some guy walks up to him and starts singing & dancing like James Brown (I think) and Michael is taken off guard and starts laughing cause he's taken back. If anyone know what I'm speaking of Please,Please direct me to or post the video. Thanks a bunch!

Thanks @ mjforever for posting that for me. I tried searching youtube but couldn't find it.

smoothcriminal12 said:

those poor kids. Wish they could grow up in privacy at least until they are 18.

Every time I see his kids there's always a couple seconds there where I get really confused, because they're so big now and it seems like it was just yesterday that their births were announced.

bigd74 said:

So how true is this? i've just had a look over at michaeljackson.com and people are putting Burn Tonight on their wish list wtf!

That's one of those fake tracklistings fans put together and spread it around. Those fans on the MJ.com are the main culprits of it Sony/MJ Estate isn't going to release another full album of unreleased material this year. 2011 was going to be all about the MICHAEL album. Unfortunately, that didn't work out The Way You Love Me is the last promo single for that album and it was released a couple of weeks ago in various countries

The rest of 2011 and early 2012 was for the deluxe editions of Off The Wall and Bad's 25th anniversary, but it looks like OTW deluxe is shelved indefinitely. We might not see another album until late 2012 or 2013

Bad 25 in 2012

possibly an Immortal soundtrack in 2012

and another full album in 2012 or 2013

Blue Gangster and A Place With No Name both confirmed for the next album

I'm bored enough to actually do the dumbest shit ever, right now.

Yes.

That.

I'm...going to an MJ fan forum.

armpit said:

I'm bored enough to actually do the dumbest shit ever, right now.

Yes.

That.

I'm...going to an MJ fan forum.

This is for your own good

footsweeps armpit and turns off computer

I'm helping you

smoothcriminal12 said:

Michael would be so proud of his kids. He did a great job raising them. I wish them nothing but the best.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blog...diff.shtml

Fans are saying Alien Ant Farm has been confirmed for the tribute concert.

[Edited 8/10/11 10:09am]

bboy87 said:

armpit said:

I'm bored enough to actually do the dumbest shit ever, right now.

Yes.

That.

I'm...going to an MJ fan forum.

This is for your own good

footsweeps armpit and turns off computer

I'm helping you

I actually did go looking around - even to the hoax boards - but it wasn't that long before I went, "I'm bored but not that bored", and said fuck it.