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Discuss Anything & Everything MJ - Part 12

To prevent the forum from getting flooded with MJ this and that threads I've created a sticky so you all can get it out of your systems and post to your hearts delight.

Do not be surprised if threads get lock and redirected here.


And to refresh your memories I post http://prince.org/msg/8/299566


Ok..... post away about Michael Jackson.


Part 11 - http://prince.org/msg/8/332844
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Reply #1 posted 04/06/10 3:43pm

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Still with the MJ stickies, Here's me thinking the rate of MJ conversation was petering out a bit so less need for them.

Oh well, i guess i won't be posting after ten pages as usual. Seeing as it takes forever to reply. too much lag for some reason. Is it all the pics? confused

Still, nice they're here i suppose.

Off topic, i spent about 5 hours googling tonight trying to find the 12 inch version of 'Let's Get Serious' by Claymaine. Love that song, it's in my top10 by any Jackson. Worth it, every minute, got it in 320kbps, but really what a monumental ballache that was. mad
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cool
Beautiful pics


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Beautiful pics eek


Mike looks good!
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Marrk said:


Beautiful pics eek


Mike looks good!


damn straight. That second pic, he might have been lean but damn, he looks strong and powerful. That's why we need tour DVD's. I'm surprised his brothers aren't pushing Katherine/Mclain etc to get stuff out like this. Perhaps they are. They gotta eat. smile
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Reply #6 posted 04/06/10 4:34pm

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Mike looks good!


damn straight. That second pic, he might have been lean but damn, he looks strong and powerful. That's why we need tour DVD's. I'm surprised his brothers aren't pushing Katherine/Mclain etc to get stuff out like this. Perhaps they are. They gotta eat. smile

nod I would fall over if we ever get things like destiny,triumph,victory etc. on dvd.. I want that so bad.

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Next issues for the Jackson 5 in 2010

http://www.jackson5abc.com/news/

By Yoann, 21/12/2009

The French magazine Vibrations proposes in its issue of December / January 2009, an interview with Harry Weinger, responsible of the Motown reissues. The latter refers to the future projects of the firm, including a Live At The Forum!

Vibrations Magazine : Could you talk about the unreleased songs by the Jackson 5 which are still sleeping in the vaults?

Harry Weinger : (He takes out a CD stack from the drawer: Jackson 5 Rare Number 1, Jackson 5 Rare Number 2, Jackson 5 Live At The Forum) : The Corporation made, with the Jackson 5, a superb cover version of "Mama Told Me Not To Come ", a song which, at that time, was competing with a song by the Jackson 5 for the top of the charts. "Mama Told Me Not To Come" is very touching because it tells the story of kids who are at a party they should not be, and then someone tells them a dirty thing: "We have stolen your keys! You can't go! " And the boys lament: "My mother will kill me, I habe to go home, Mama told me not to come." "Mama Told Me Not To Come" spotted number 1 which was formerly by "The Love You Save" by the J5, hence the idea of them recording a cover version.

I mentioned "If I Can not Nobody Can not" part of the tracks that have filtered from internet before I was in charge. "Would You Would You Baby" which is in the vaults under a different title, "Love Trip", "Making Life A Little Easier For You", another song from The Corporation. There is also a cover of "What's So Good About Goodbye" sung originally by the Miracles.

On our CD I Want You Back! Unreleased Masters there is a song titled "Love Call", for which we also have another version with the same instrumental, but with completely different lyrics, and re-recorded a few months later when Michael's voice was being transformed, which probably explains it was never released. This version is incredible, but we had to make a choice for the CD and our small committee chose the first version of "Love Call".

Next year, maybe we will release an expanded version of the CD and we'll put the second version of "Love Call" for people to compare.

As for the "Live At The Forum", there are two shows, recorded in 1970 and 1972, which are quite different. In 1970, the songs were longer, the group talked between songs, they last night, while in 1972 they had more hits like "Sugar Daddy" or "Mama's Pearl" and Michael sang his own songs, along with Jermaine.
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http://www.kotaku.com.au/...ideo-game/

Last week, Sony shelled out $US200 million for the rights to release 10 new posthumous Michael Jackson albums, DVDs and video games between now and 2017 reports The Independent.
This is the largest advanced sum ever paid to a musician.
The “new” material was recorded by Jackson over three decades and includes never-before-released remixes, plus totally new tracks. According to The Independent, an album is scheduled for November. And after that, the newspaper states that anniversary editions of Bad and Thriller as well as an updated take on Off the Wall, a DVD compilation and a Michael Jackson video game.
Jackson, who passed away last year, had his own video game, Michael Jackson’s Moonwalker from Sega and also appeared in music games Space Channel 5, its sequel and Midway’s fighting games Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2.
The King of Pop was reportedly working on a video game at the time of his death. MJJ Productions, Jackson’s production company, has been working on this unannounced home console title for “several months”. Word has it that the game features both Jackson’s likeness and his recorded speech as well as many of his hit songs.
“I am sure it will still be released,” a MJJ Productions rep was quoted as saying. “Michael loved games.”
In Japan, Sony released a PS3 bundle with a Blu-ray copy of documentary This Is It.
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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bboy87 said:

Next issues for the Jackson 5 in 2010

http://www.jackson5abc.com/news/

By Yoann, 21/12/2009

The French magazine Vibrations proposes in its issue of December / January 2009, an interview with Harry Weinger, responsible of the Motown reissues. The latter refers to the future projects of the firm, including a Live At The Forum!

Vibrations Magazine : Could you talk about the unreleased songs by the Jackson 5 which are still sleeping in the vaults?

Harry Weinger : (He takes out a CD stack from the drawer: Jackson 5 Rare Number 1, Jackson 5 Rare Number 2, Jackson 5 Live At The Forum) : The Corporation made, with the Jackson 5, a superb cover version of "Mama Told Me Not To Come ", a song which, at that time, was competing with a song by the Jackson 5 for the top of the charts. "Mama Told Me Not To Come" is very touching because it tells the story of kids who are at a party they should not be, and then someone tells them a dirty thing: "We have stolen your keys! You can't go! " And the boys lament: "My mother will kill me, I habe to go home, Mama told me not to come." "Mama Told Me Not To Come" spotted number 1 which was formerly by "The Love You Save" by the J5, hence the idea of them recording a cover version.

I mentioned "If I Can not Nobody Can not" part of the tracks that have filtered from internet before I was in charge. "Would You Would You Baby" which is in the vaults under a different title, "Love Trip", "Making Life A Little Easier For You", another song from The Corporation. There is also a cover of "What's So Good About Goodbye" sung originally by the Miracles.

On our CD I Want You Back! Unreleased Masters there is a song titled "Love Call", for which we also have another version with the same instrumental, but with completely different lyrics, and re-recorded a few months later when Michael's voice was being transformed, which probably explains it was never released. This version is incredible, but we had to make a choice for the CD and our small committee chose the first version of "Love Call".

Next year, maybe we will release an expanded version of the CD and we'll put the second version of "Love Call" for people to compare.

As for the "Live At The Forum", there are two shows, recorded in 1970 and 1972, which are quite different. In 1970, the songs were longer, the group talked between songs, they last night, while in 1972 they had more hits like "Sugar Daddy" or "Mama's Pearl" and Michael sang his own songs, along with Jermaine.


The J5 release news excites me as much as any MJ news. I love being a fan of all his career. Was listening to a live version of 'Who's Loving You' (not Ed Sullivan) my girl commented how unique he was, how brilliant a vocalist he was and even back then, causing bedlam as a little kid, literally there'll never be anybody like him again.

I'm proud of MJ.
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Marrk said:

bboy87 said:

Next issues for the Jackson 5 in 2010

http://www.jackson5abc.com/news/

By Yoann, 21/12/2009

The French magazine Vibrations proposes in its issue of December / January 2009, an interview with Harry Weinger, responsible of the Motown reissues. The latter refers to the future projects of the firm, including a Live At The Forum!



The J5 release news excites me as much as any MJ news. I love being a fan of all his career. Was listening to a live version of 'Who's Loving You' (not Ed Sullivan) my girl commented how unique he was, how brilliant a vocalist he was and even back then, causing bedlam as a little kid, literally there'll never be anybody like him again.

I'm proud of MJ.


you're gonna make me cry... bawl
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http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/03/report-sony-to-release-michael-jackson-video-game/

Last week, Sony shelled out $US200 million for the rights to release 10 new posthumous Michael Jackson albums, DVDs and video games between now and 2017 reports The Independent.
This is the largest advanced sum ever paid to a musician.
The “new” material was recorded by Jackson over three decades and includes never-before-released remixes, plus totally new tracks. According to The Independent, an album is scheduled for November. And after that, the newspaper states that anniversary editions of Bad and Thriller as well as an updated take on Off the Wall, a DVD compilation and a Michael Jackson video game.
Jackson, who passed away last year, had his own video game, Michael Jackson’s Moonwalker from Sega and also appeared in music games Space Channel 5, its sequel and Midway’s fighting games Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2.
The King of Pop was reportedly working on a video game at the time of his death. MJJ Productions, Jackson’s production company, has been working on this unannounced home console title for “several months”. Word has it that the game features both Jackson’s likeness and his recorded speech as well as many of his hit songs.
“I am sure it will still be released,” a MJJ Productions rep was quoted as saying. “Michael loved games.”
In Japan, Sony released a PS3 bundle with a Blu-ray copy of documentary This Is It.


It all sounds great. I always wonder what dvd though..
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Reply #12 posted 04/06/10 5:57pm

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tangerine7 said:

bboy87 said:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/03/report-sony-to-release-michael-jackson-video-game/

Last week, Sony shelled out $US200 million for the rights to release 10 new posthumous Michael Jackson albums, DVDs and video games between now and 2017 reports The Independent.
This is the largest advanced sum ever paid to a musician.
The “new” material was recorded by Jackson over three decades and includes never-before-released remixes, plus totally new tracks. According to The Independent, an album is scheduled for November. And after that, the newspaper states that anniversary editions of Bad and Thriller as well as an updated take on Off the Wall, a DVD compilation and a Michael Jackson video game.
Jackson, who passed away last year, had his own video game, Michael Jackson’s Moonwalker from Sega and also appeared in music games Space Channel 5, its sequel and Midway’s fighting games Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2.
The King of Pop was reportedly working on a video game at the time of his death. MJJ Productions, Jackson’s production company, has been working on this unannounced home console title for “several months”. Word has it that the game features both Jackson’s likeness and his recorded speech as well as many of his hit songs.
“I am sure it will still be released,” a MJJ Productions rep was quoted as saying. “Michael loved games.”
In Japan, Sony released a PS3 bundle with a Blu-ray copy of documentary This Is It.


It all sounds great. I always wonder what dvd though..


I'd watch a compilation of Mike doing the most boring, mundane things. I have done. The Mexico depositon is something only a die hard fan can watch more than once. "i wrote that" over and over. Still fascinating to me.

sigh
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Reply #13 posted 04/06/10 6:01pm

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It all sounds great. I always wonder what dvd though..


I'd watch a compilation of Mike doing the most boring, mundane things. I have done. The Mexico depositon is something only a die hard fan can watch more than once. "i wrote that" over and over. Still fascinating to me.

sigh

Yeah I love watching anything Michael..I just hope they release something that's not been ofically released before..like perhaps hard to find videos. something.
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http://www.irishtimes.com...23030.html

When Michael Jackson lived in Ireland for five months, it was in Paddy Dunning’s lodge in Westmeath. Now, his host unveils a model of the King of Pop and remembers his stay

‘I NEVER ASKED him to moondance, and I never asked him for a picture. Michael said that when he was leaving. He said, ‘Paddy, you’re the only person who I’ve met in my whole entire life who’s never asked me for a picture.”

Entrepreneur Paddy Dunning is talking about Michael Jackson, who, with his children, spent five months in 2006 living at Dunning’s recording studio complex at Grouse Lodge in Co Westmeath. The photograph that accompanies this article, and in which the two do finally appear together, is of a live Dunning and a brand-new waxwork of Jackson, which went on show yesterday at the National Wax Museum Plus; another of Dunning’s businesses.

Grouse Lodge is located some winding potholed miles from the village of Rosemount in Co Westmeath, among lovely countryside peppered with cairns and historic sites. It’s purposely unsigned, but that hasn’t stopped many famous names in the music industry finding it. Among those who have used the studios here, which opened in 2002, are Snow Patrol, Bloc Party, REM, Shirley Bassey, Stereophonics, Manic Street Preachers, The Thrills and Westlife.

The studio’s most famous resident to date, however, was undoubtedly Michael Jackson. After the 2005 trial in California, when Jackson was acquitted of charges of child sexual abuse allegations, he spent very little time in the US. Five months of 2006 were spent in rural Westmeath. Rumours leaked out at the time of Jackson being sighted in Moate, Kilbeggan or Horseleap; locations that all seemed surreally unlikely places for the Prince of Pop to be wandering around.

Paddy Dunning sits over coffee in one of the converted stableblocks at the secluded Grouse Lodge, reminiscing about Jackson’s time there, together with his children Prince Michael Junior, Paris and Blanket, and their nanny and tutor. There are two recording studios and comfortable, but modest, accommodation in a variety of converted stone buildings in the complex. The all-in price for renting the studios, accommodation and food used to be €1,500 a day; now it is a “recession-friendly” €850 a day.
Across the road from Grouse Lodge is Coolatore House, a beautiful late Victorian mansion, which can also be rented by artists or the public.


Jackson lived in the Grouse Lodge complex for a month, and at Coolatore for four. Seamus Heaney has also stayed there for a period. The weekend before I arrive, 14 gardaí had rented the house for a hen party.
“Michael had heard about the place through an agent; he had lots of agents,” Dunning relates. Once the family arrived, the gates were closed and the Jackson children settled down to a routine of lessons in a small room off one of the studios, playing with Dunning’s two children in the afternoons. Jackson made his own porridge in the mornings, favoured grilled chicken, fish and rice for dinner, went for walks, and read The Irish Times daily.
“He was very interested in how this country worked, and the boom that was on here at the time. He was an avid reader of The Irish Times ; he read it every day from start to finish.”

At the time of his death last summer, Jackson was reported to be taking an extensive range of drugs on a regular basis. However, Dunning says he saw no evidence of this. “Not that I saw and he was here, or around, all the time. We’d go for walks, and he was fit. Michael could move really quickly; I’ve never seen anyone move so quickly. He was like a ballet dancer.”

The staff working at Grouse Lodge did not even tell their partners who the studio’s current resident was, although Dunning himself cracked. “I eventually told my mam,” he confesses. “And then my mam was saying prayers for Michael. And then Michael rang his mother and told her that my mother was saying prayers for him, and then she was saying prayers for my mother, so I went back to my mother and told her ‘Michael Jackson’s mother is saying prayers for you, Mam’. My mother is a small little lady up in Walkinstown and it’s just mad to think that Michael Jackson’s mother was saying prayers for her.”

Jackson, one of the world’s most recognisable faces, sometimes left the estate to explore other parts of Ireland, usually accompanied by Dunning. How was it that nobody in Ireland appeared to notice him?

“Sometimes they did,” Dunning replies simply. “Sometimes I’d drive him to Dublin and we’d pull up a red light and Michael would look out the window, because he’d be sitting up front with me, and a person would not believe their eyes. They would go into semi-shock at the sight, not knowing what to believe – is this Michael Jackson that’s pulled up alongside me on Dame Street or wherever?”

The pair of them sang in the car as they drove around the country. “Although I’m a crap musician, I can say I’ve played with Michael Jackson,” Dunning laughs. “I played drums with him. And I sang with Michael. We’d be singing in the car. We sang that song, The Girl Is Mine , that Michael recorded with Paul McCartney. He did Paul McCartney’s part, and I did Michael Jackson.”

One of the places that Dunning took Jackson was to the nearby Hill of Úisneach, a historic site associated with the High Kings of Ireland. “He loved history and mythology,” says Dunning, who is developing a Mayday festival around Úisneach – the Festival of the Fires – which will, he hopes, eventually radiate out across Ireland.

A fire will be lit on Úisneach on the evening of May 1st, where there will be music, craft, a market, and talks about the history and mythology of the area. Sharon Shannon, Mundy, Kíla and others are scheduled to play. Landowners with hills in surrounding areas are being invited to light their own hilltop fires at dusk, and gather their communities to celebrate Mayday.

Dunning’s dream is to develop it into a 32-county festival that will attract the diaspora back to their local regions, and bring in seasonal revenue. “We want to send a global invitation to all the diaspora to come back to their home county in May to celebrate the ancient festival of Bealtaine.” He doesn’t like talking about the possibility of rain on the evening.

Although staff, neighbours, the shopkeepers at Rosemount – and Dunning’s small children – kept quiet about the fact Michael Jackson was in residence, in the end, a US reporter eventually revealed his whereabouts. One Billy Bush, nephew of George Bush senior, first cousin of George Bush junior and presenter of Access Hollywood , a syndicated cable entertainment-news show, arrived to interview Jackson in Westmeath. He went into nearby Moate straight after filming and told the men, women, children and dogs in the street where Jackson was. “Stupid man,” Dunning says mournfully, but really, could any other result have been reasonably expected?

Jackson departed the midlands soon afterwards, to attend the funeral of soul icon, James Brown. He left the Dunnings his television; toys that had been bought for Prince Michael Junior, Paris and Blanket; various hats; a signed piece of wood (all visitors sign a slice of tree trunk); and a page of scrawled signature in the Visitors’ Book. “He was a very generous man,” says Dunning.

Jackson had agreed, in theory, to open Dunning’s Wax Museum last summer. “We’d told him about the museum. He was always interested in wax museums. He said, ‘If I’m around, I’ll launch it for you’. He was due to be in England at the time to do the shows at O2, and we were going to be going over to the shows and all of that. It was a massive shock when we heard he was dead.”
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2010/0407/1224267823030.html

When Michael Jackson lived in Ireland for five months, it was in Paddy Dunning’s lodge in Westmeath. Now, his host unveils a model of the King of Pop and remembers his stay

‘I NEVER ASKED him to moondance, and I never asked him for a picture. Michael said that when he was leaving. He said, ‘Paddy, you’re the only person who I’ve met in my whole entire life who’s never asked me for a picture.”

Entrepreneur Paddy Dunning is talking about Michael Jackson, who, with his children, spent five months in 2006 living at Dunning’s recording studio complex at Grouse Lodge in Co Westmeath. The photograph that accompanies this article, and in which the two do finally appear together, is of a live Dunning and a brand-new waxwork of Jackson, which went on show yesterday at the National Wax Museum Plus; another of Dunning’s businesses.

Grouse Lodge is located some winding potholed miles from the village of Rosemount in Co Westmeath, among lovely countryside peppered with cairns and historic sites. It’s purposely unsigned, but that hasn’t stopped many famous names in the music industry finding it. Among those who have used the studios here, which opened in 2002, are Snow Patrol, Bloc Party, REM, Shirley Bassey, Stereophonics, Manic Street Preachers, The Thrills and Westlife.

The studio’s most famous resident to date, however, was undoubtedly Michael Jackson. After the 2005 trial in California, when Jackson was acquitted of charges of child sexual abuse allegations, he spent very little time in the US. Five months of 2006 were spent in rural Westmeath. Rumours leaked out at the time of Jackson being sighted in Moate, Kilbeggan or Horseleap; locations that all seemed surreally unlikely places for the Prince of Pop to be wandering around.

Paddy Dunning sits over coffee in one of the converted stableblocks at the secluded Grouse Lodge, reminiscing about Jackson’s time there, together with his children Prince Michael Junior, Paris and Blanket, and their nanny and tutor. There are two recording studios and comfortable, but modest, accommodation in a variety of converted stone buildings in the complex. The all-in price for renting the studios, accommodation and food used to be €1,500 a day; now it is a “recession-friendly” €850 a day.
Across the road from Grouse Lodge is Coolatore House, a beautiful late Victorian mansion, which can also be rented by artists or the public.


Jackson lived in the Grouse Lodge complex for a month, and at Coolatore for four. Seamus Heaney has also stayed there for a period. The weekend before I arrive, 14 gardaí had rented the house for a hen party.
“Michael had heard about the place through an agent; he had lots of agents,” Dunning relates. Once the family arrived, the gates were closed and the Jackson children settled down to a routine of lessons in a small room off one of the studios, playing with Dunning’s two children in the afternoons. Jackson made his own porridge in the mornings, favoured grilled chicken, fish and rice for dinner, went for walks, and read The Irish Times daily.
“He was very interested in how this country worked, and the boom that was on here at the time. He was an avid reader of The Irish Times ; he read it every day from start to finish.”

At the time of his death last summer, Jackson was reported to be taking an extensive range of drugs on a regular basis. However, Dunning says he saw no evidence of this. “Not that I saw and he was here, or around, all the time. We’d go for walks, and he was fit. Michael could move really quickly; I’ve never seen anyone move so quickly. He was like a ballet dancer.”

The staff working at Grouse Lodge did not even tell their partners who the studio’s current resident was, although Dunning himself cracked. “I eventually told my mam,” he confesses. “And then my mam was saying prayers for Michael. And then Michael rang his mother and told her that my mother was saying prayers for him, and then she was saying prayers for my mother, so I went back to my mother and told her ‘Michael Jackson’s mother is saying prayers for you, Mam’. My mother is a small little lady up in Walkinstown and it’s just mad to think that Michael Jackson’s mother was saying prayers for her.”

Jackson, one of the world’s most recognisable faces, sometimes left the estate to explore other parts of Ireland, usually accompanied by Dunning. How was it that nobody in Ireland appeared to notice him?

“Sometimes they did,” Dunning replies simply. “Sometimes I’d drive him to Dublin and we’d pull up a red light and Michael would look out the window, because he’d be sitting up front with me, and a person would not believe their eyes. They would go into semi-shock at the sight, not knowing what to believe – is this Michael Jackson that’s pulled up alongside me on Dame Street or wherever?”

The pair of them sang in the car as they drove around the country. “Although I’m a crap musician, I can say I’ve played with Michael Jackson,” Dunning laughs. “I played drums with him. And I sang with Michael. We’d be singing in the car. We sang that song, The Girl Is Mine , that Michael recorded with Paul McCartney. He did Paul McCartney’s part, and I did Michael Jackson.”

One of the places that Dunning took Jackson was to the nearby Hill of Úisneach, a historic site associated with the High Kings of Ireland. “He loved history and mythology,” says Dunning, who is developing a Mayday festival around Úisneach – the Festival of the Fires – which will, he hopes, eventually radiate out across Ireland.

A fire will be lit on Úisneach on the evening of May 1st, where there will be music, craft, a market, and talks about the history and mythology of the area. Sharon Shannon, Mundy, Kíla and others are scheduled to play. Landowners with hills in surrounding areas are being invited to light their own hilltop fires at dusk, and gather their communities to celebrate Mayday.

Dunning’s dream is to develop it into a 32-county festival that will attract the diaspora back to their local regions, and bring in seasonal revenue. “We want to send a global invitation to all the diaspora to come back to their home county in May to celebrate the ancient festival of Bealtaine.” He doesn’t like talking about the possibility of rain on the evening.

Although staff, neighbours, the shopkeepers at Rosemount – and Dunning’s small children – kept quiet about the fact Michael Jackson was in residence, in the end, a US reporter eventually revealed his whereabouts. One Billy Bush, nephew of George Bush senior, first cousin of George Bush junior and presenter of Access Hollywood , a syndicated cable entertainment-news show, arrived to interview Jackson in Westmeath. He went into nearby Moate straight after filming and told the men, women, children and dogs in the street where Jackson was. “Stupid man,” Dunning says mournfully, but really, could any other result have been reasonably expected?

Jackson departed the midlands soon afterwards, to attend the funeral of soul icon, James Brown. He left the Dunnings his television; toys that had been bought for Prince Michael Junior, Paris and Blanket; various hats; a signed piece of wood (all visitors sign a slice of tree trunk); and a page of scrawled signature in the Visitors’ Book. “He was a very generous man,” says Dunning.

Jackson had agreed, in theory, to open Dunning’s Wax Museum last summer. “We’d told him about the museum. He was always interested in wax museums. He said, ‘If I’m around, I’ll launch it for you’. He was due to be in England at the time to do the shows at O2, and we were going to be going over to the shows and all of that. It was a massive shock when we heard he was dead.”


Nice to hear stories like that. Hate to bring up a semi off topic comparison, but when it was mentioned MJ returned to the U.S. after James Brown got ill and then died, it reminds me of when reports said Marvin had returned from Belgium to the states after his mother got sick. Oddly enough within two and a half years, MJ dies. Kinda ironic. confused
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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2010/0407/1224267823030.html

When Michael Jackson lived in Ireland for five months, it was in Paddy Dunning’s lodge in Westmeath. Now, his host unveils a model of the King of Pop and remembers his stay

‘I NEVER ASKED him to moondance, and I never asked him for a picture. Michael said that when he was leaving. He said, ‘Paddy, you’re the only person who I’ve met in my whole entire life who’s never asked me for a picture.”

Entrepreneur Paddy Dunning is talking about Michael Jackson, who, with his children, spent five months in 2006 living at Dunning’s recording studio complex at Grouse Lodge in Co Westmeath. The photograph that accompanies this article, and in which the two do finally appear together, is of a live Dunning and a brand-new waxwork of Jackson, which went on show yesterday at the National Wax Museum Plus; another of Dunning’s businesses.

Grouse Lodge is located some winding potholed miles from the village of Rosemount in Co Westmeath, among lovely countryside peppered with cairns and historic sites. It’s purposely unsigned, but that hasn’t stopped many famous names in the music industry finding it. Among those who have used the studios here, which opened in 2002, are Snow Patrol, Bloc Party, REM, Shirley Bassey, Stereophonics, Manic Street Preachers, The Thrills and Westlife.

The studio’s most famous resident to date, however, was undoubtedly Michael Jackson. After the 2005 trial in California, when Jackson was acquitted of charges of child sexual abuse allegations, he spent very little time in the US. Five months of 2006 were spent in rural Westmeath. Rumours leaked out at the time of Jackson being sighted in Moate, Kilbeggan or Horseleap; locations that all seemed surreally unlikely places for the Prince of Pop to be wandering around.

Paddy Dunning sits over coffee in one of the converted stableblocks at the secluded Grouse Lodge, reminiscing about Jackson’s time there, together with his children Prince Michael Junior, Paris and Blanket, and their nanny and tutor. There are two recording studios and comfortable, but modest, accommodation in a variety of converted stone buildings in the complex. The all-in price for renting the studios, accommodation and food used to be €1,500 a day; now it is a “recession-friendly” €850 a day.
Across the road from Grouse Lodge is Coolatore House, a beautiful late Victorian mansion, which can also be rented by artists or the public.


Jackson lived in the Grouse Lodge complex for a month, and at Coolatore for four. Seamus Heaney has also stayed there for a period. The weekend before I arrive, 14 gardaí had rented the house for a hen party.
“Michael had heard about the place through an agent; he had lots of agents,” Dunning relates. Once the family arrived, the gates were closed and the Jackson children settled down to a routine of lessons in a small room off one of the studios, playing with Dunning’s two children in the afternoons. Jackson made his own porridge in the mornings, favoured grilled chicken, fish and rice for dinner, went for walks, and read The Irish Times daily.
“He was very interested in how this country worked, and the boom that was on here at the time. He was an avid reader of The Irish Times ; he read it every day from start to finish.”

At the time of his death last summer, Jackson was reported to be taking an extensive range of drugs on a regular basis. However, Dunning says he saw no evidence of this. “Not that I saw and he was here, or around, all the time. We’d go for walks, and he was fit. Michael could move really quickly; I’ve never seen anyone move so quickly. He was like a ballet dancer.”

The staff working at Grouse Lodge did not even tell their partners who the studio’s current resident was, although Dunning himself cracked. “I eventually told my mam,” he confesses. “And then my mam was saying prayers for Michael. And then Michael rang his mother and told her that my mother was saying prayers for him, and then she was saying prayers for my mother, so I went back to my mother and told her ‘Michael Jackson’s mother is saying prayers for you, Mam’. My mother is a small little lady up in Walkinstown and it’s just mad to think that Michael Jackson’s mother was saying prayers for her.”

Jackson, one of the world’s most recognisable faces, sometimes left the estate to explore other parts of Ireland, usually accompanied by Dunning. How was it that nobody in Ireland appeared to notice him?

“Sometimes they did,” Dunning replies simply. “Sometimes I’d drive him to Dublin and we’d pull up a red light and Michael would look out the window, because he’d be sitting up front with me, and a person would not believe their eyes. They would go into semi-shock at the sight, not knowing what to believe – is this Michael Jackson that’s pulled up alongside me on Dame Street or wherever?”

The pair of them sang in the car as they drove around the country. “Although I’m a crap musician, I can say I’ve played with Michael Jackson,” Dunning laughs. “I played drums with him. And I sang with Michael. We’d be singing in the car. We sang that song, The Girl Is Mine , that Michael recorded with Paul McCartney. He did Paul McCartney’s part, and I did Michael Jackson.”

One of the places that Dunning took Jackson was to the nearby Hill of Úisneach, a historic site associated with the High Kings of Ireland. “He loved history and mythology,” says Dunning, who is developing a Mayday festival around Úisneach – the Festival of the Fires – which will, he hopes, eventually radiate out across Ireland.

A fire will be lit on Úisneach on the evening of May 1st, where there will be music, craft, a market, and talks about the history and mythology of the area. Sharon Shannon, Mundy, Kíla and others are scheduled to play. Landowners with hills in surrounding areas are being invited to light their own hilltop fires at dusk, and gather their communities to celebrate Mayday.

Dunning’s dream is to develop it into a 32-county festival that will attract the diaspora back to their local regions, and bring in seasonal revenue. “We want to send a global invitation to all the diaspora to come back to their home county in May to celebrate the ancient festival of Bealtaine.” He doesn’t like talking about the possibility of rain on the evening.

Although staff, neighbours, the shopkeepers at Rosemount – and Dunning’s small children – kept quiet about the fact Michael Jackson was in residence, in the end, a US reporter eventually revealed his whereabouts. One Billy Bush, nephew of George Bush senior, first cousin of George Bush junior and presenter of Access Hollywood , a syndicated cable entertainment-news show, arrived to interview Jackson in Westmeath. He went into nearby Moate straight after filming and told the men, women, children and dogs in the street where Jackson was. “Stupid man,” Dunning says mournfully, but really, could any other result have been reasonably expected?

Jackson departed the midlands soon afterwards, to attend the funeral of soul icon, James Brown. He left the Dunnings his television; toys that had been bought for Prince Michael Junior, Paris and Blanket; various hats; a signed piece of wood (all visitors sign a slice of tree trunk); and a page of scrawled signature in the Visitors’ Book. “He was a very generous man,” says Dunning.

Jackson had agreed, in theory, to open Dunning’s Wax Museum last summer. “We’d told him about the museum. He was always interested in wax museums. He said, ‘If I’m around, I’ll launch it for you’. He was due to be in England at the time to do the shows at O2, and we were going to be going over to the shows and all of that. It was a massive shock when we heard he was dead.”


You know, interesting stories like this convince me Michael was more normal and down to earth than most people realise, i think he craved that. I bet he had a peaceful time in Ireland, i hope he did. I know he was hounded and harrassed, so this must have been pleasant experience for him for a time. I'm glad he got to experience that even just for a few months.

I have heard he recorded some traditional Irish folk music while there with local musicians, there was an article online (i think at the KOP) with the musicians saying how it could be amongst his final recordings and they were trying to figure what to do with them.
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Reply #17 posted 04/06/10 6:41pm

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Yeah I love stories like that, this further proves that Michael wanted to be regarded as another human being, he was trying hard not to let people think he had to play Michael Jackson 24-7 like he was kinda forced to be as a kid and as a young adult.
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Reply #18 posted 04/06/10 7:23pm

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tangerine7 said:

cool



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Reply #19 posted 04/06/10 7:55pm

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Marrk said:

tangerine7 said:



It all sounds great. I always wonder what dvd though..


I'd watch a compilation of Mike doing the most boring, mundane things. I have done. The Mexico depositon is something only a die hard fan can watch more than once. "i wrote that" over and over. Still fascinating to me.

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Reply #20 posted 04/06/10 8:39pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

tangerine7 said:

cool



Oh my...faint

wink I've been drooling over these pictures for a long minute now and just now seen it says 'hot dog' on his shirt. lol guess I wasn't lookin' at his shirt. wink lol
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Reply #21 posted 04/06/10 8:42pm

tangerine7

Thanks for posting the article(s). Post some more good stories bboy87. I love reading about Michael. I hope to keep hearing more 'new' positive stuff about the man.
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Reply #22 posted 04/06/10 10:15pm

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Reply #23 posted 04/06/10 10:36pm

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Pardon the title.

‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #24 posted 04/06/10 10:53pm

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Bester24 said:

eek


Is it just me,or does Emanuel look a little to old to be drinking from a bottle?
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Reply #25 posted 04/06/10 10:54pm

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tangerine7 said:

EmeraldSkies said:



Oh my...faint

wink I've been drooling over these pictures for a long minute now and just now seen it says 'hot dog' on his shirt. lol guess I wasn't lookin' at his shirt. wink lol


lol neither was I. biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 04/06/10 11:27pm

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2-4-2010) Roger Friedman reported the following today in his column, Showbiz411:

Spike Lee is right now finishing up shooting “Inside Man 2″ with Denzel Washington and Clive Owen.

But come this summer, residents of Brooklyn may find Lee’s crew setting up shop in their neighborhoods.

The word is that Spike will roll into one of his own films, tentatively titled “Brooklyn Loves Michael Jackson.”

I’m told he’s already lined up Samuel L. Jackson, John Turturro, Julianne Moore, and Rosie Perez.

“It’s a huge cast,” says a source, “and it’s all about the gentrification of Brooklyn.”

More names are soon to be announced, with more Lee regulars expected to be included. Some of them could be Anthony Mackie and Kerry Washington, who were in a lesser Lee film called “She Hate Me.” They deserve a second chance!

About that title: Spike did put on a Michael Jackson birthday extravaganza last summer in Prospect Park called “Brooklyn Loves Michael Jackson.” He may be using this title temporarily. We’ll see how it all plays out.

If this film is anything like “Crooklyn,” a Lee favorite of mine, that means a lot of good music. Maybe Spike should call it “Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough.”
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Reply #27 posted 04/06/10 11:38pm

tangerine7

..Just thought I'd post this...
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Reply #28 posted 04/07/10 12:03am

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Michael at New York's American Museum of Natural History 1984
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Reply #29 posted 04/07/10 3:24am

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Hilarious!


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