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Reply #90 posted 04/07/10 9:10pm

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I think the reason I love the org and these stickys is because, the conversation is interesting, usually peaceful, and it isn't overwhelming. I've thought of joining other MJ forums, but they are overwhelming with the topics of discussion. I like to keep things simple.

Anyway, random question, Does anyone know did Michael sing "Scream" live on the HIStory tour? or was it all a pre-recorded solo version? If so, anyone have a good quality mp3 of it?
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Reply #91 posted 04/07/10 9:16pm

tangerine7

you may try youtube > http://www.youtube.com/wa...BFh6QZZH2c but there is gonna be the fans screaming.
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Reply #92 posted 04/07/10 11:32pm

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An article from 2005 posted on KOP board.

Michael Jackson fans are a strange breed. One would be hard pressed to find another fan community whose object of admiration is the subject of so much unnecessary condemnation. Over time, Michael Jackson enthusiasts have watched their beloved's seemingly global idolization transform into apparent worldwide mischaracterization and mistreatment by the press and public alike. Yet, through it all, true Michael Jackson fans have abandoned him not. If anything, the harder Michael's opponents try to shove him to the depths of despair, the harder his devotees love him, if only for summoning the courage to persist in the midst of it all. Michael's continued endurance is an exercise in strength and resilience in the face of adversity and uncertainty. Michael's fans have learned well the lesson, as they steadfastly brave the almost daily emotional roller coaster ride that is a requisite experience of every Jackson supporter. They marvel at his seemingly inexhaustible talents and applaud his victories. They laugh with him in his happiness; weep with him in his sorrow and pray for him in troubled times. Their hearts are warmed when he is embraced, and bleed when he is ill-treated. Despite the stratospheric highs and seemingly cavernous lows that come with being a Michael Jackson fan, they remain loyal. They, like Michael, refuse to allow naysayers to steal their joy, obstruct their way or shape their opinions. They, like Michael, refuse to have their destiny defined or dictated by another. They also refuse to stand idly by as others attempt to deny Michael his rightfully earned legacy. Simply, Michael Jackson's fans are just like Mike in that they will not be deterred. By nature of their calling, Michael's fans are constantly summoned to put on the full armour, stand on the front lines and fight. Oftentimes with their pen as their sword, they fight alongside and for Michael's right of humanity. By so doing, they fight for tolerance over prejudice, unconditional love over criticism; wisdom over ignorance and justice over inequality - not only for Michael, but for themselves as well. The battles are never-ending, hard-fought and oftentimes mentally and physically exhausting. Still, rather than surrender or reconcile, Michael's fans resist. They resist the desire to abandon Michael when all seems lost. They forsake the notion that theirs is a lost cause. They refuse to throw in the towel and resign themselves to the path of least resistance, which so often involves renouncing their fan support of Michael. When the going gets tough, with weary minds and heavy hearts, they press on. They press on through Michael's tribulations and the attacks to which he is subjected. They press on in spite of tire. They press on despite mockery and question as to why they bother fight at all for Michael Jackson, a man some deem undeserving of their adoration. Hazrat Inayat Khan once said, "God breaks the heart again and again until it stays open". Michael's devotees can see him as living proof of this idea, as he seems to be the embodiment of the notion. His own heart has been broken much and his fans personally feel the sting of each break. By the grace of God, Michael's heart does not become hardened as a result of its frequent fractures. To the contrary, his shattered heart allows for its tenderness and openness. Since out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks, Michael's fans are able to truly see the fullness of his heart when they listen to him articulate his desire for acceptance, understanding, positivity, love and peace through song and speech. As their efforts to break Jackson himself have continually proven unsuccessful, some Michael Jackson opponents have turned their focus to attempting to disband the fan community by attacking his defenders. Time after time, the press uses condescending, defamatory terms to describe Michael's fans. Being referred to as "delusional" and "Michael" is not foreign to Jackson's supporters. However, Michael's devotees choose to ignore the juvenile name-calling and taglines bestowed on them by the media. The fans refuse to allow the press to project its negative, inaccurate perception onto them. This is because Michael Jackson fans realize that such inflammatory terms do not depict their true nature as intelligent, grounded individuals with a healthy admiration for Michael's music, vision and humanitarianism among other things. Interestingly enough, Michael Jackson's influence is global and thus, so is his fan base. His detractors are under the false impression that his fan base is minuscule as well as one-dimensional. To the contrary, Michael Jackson enthusiasts are nothing if not vast and multi-dimensional. They can be found on every continent, in every country worldwide. Michael's fans transcend racial, age and socioeconomic boundaries. The fact that Michael's fans are so diverse adds to their beauty. Few entertainers, if any, can lay claim to having the type of dynamic and varied fan base of which Michael Jackson can boast. If it is true our lives are open books for others to read, then the fans' study of Michael Jackson has taught them more than they ever could have imagined they would learn about life, love and survival. Michael Jackson is a living testament of the notion that whatever one dreams and desires for his or her life can be achieved. Michael lives by the mantra that love should have no limitations -no conditions. Michael has shown all who dare take notice that it is possible to not only stay alive, but to thrive, with grace and fortitude despite adversity. By merely existing, Michael Jackson has taught his fans what it is to dream without fear, to create without boundaries, to listen without prejudice and to love without judgment. Simply, Michael Jackson's fans are a hard act to outshine.
Their loyalty, enthusiasm, intelligence and genuine adoration of their musical idol is unparalleled by other artists' fan communities. However, for all their attributes, when it comes to one particular matter, Michael Jackson's admiring fans, will always be bested. For try as they might, no matter to what infinite degree they say and believe they love Michael Jackson, the King of Pop in true regal fashion, will always say and prove he loves them more ...
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #93 posted 04/08/10 3:43am

NMuzakNSoul

bboy87 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:



Wonder what was going on in the picture with Stevie Wonder. Curious I can guess the year but you know.

It was a Triumph Tour afterparty


Ah, cool! cool Thanks Jay.
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Reply #94 posted 04/08/10 6:36am

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dag said:

An article from 2005 posted on KOP board.

Michael Jackson fans are a strange breed. One would be hard pressed to find another fan community whose object of admiration is the subject of so much unnecessary condemnation. Over time, Michael Jackson enthusiasts have watched their beloved's seemingly global idolization transform into apparent worldwide mischaracterization and mistreatment by the press and public alike. Yet, through it all, true Michael Jackson fans have abandoned him not. If anything, the harder Michael's opponents try to shove him to the depths of despair, the harder his devotees love him, if only for summoning the courage to persist in the midst of it all. Michael's continued endurance is an exercise in strength and resilience in the face of adversity and uncertainty. Michael's fans have learned well the lesson, as they steadfastly brave the almost daily emotional roller coaster ride that is a requisite experience of every Jackson supporter. They marvel at his seemingly inexhaustible talents and applaud his victories. They laugh with him in his happiness; weep with him in his sorrow and pray for him in troubled times. Their hearts are warmed when he is embraced, and bleed when he is ill-treated. Despite the stratospheric highs and seemingly cavernous lows that come with being a Michael Jackson fan, they remain loyal. They, like Michael, refuse to allow naysayers to steal their joy, obstruct their way or shape their opinions. They, like Michael, refuse to have their destiny defined or dictated by another. They also refuse to stand idly by as others attempt to deny Michael his rightfully earned legacy. Simply, Michael Jackson's fans are just like Mike in that they will not be deterred. By nature of their calling, Michael's fans are constantly summoned to put on the full armour, stand on the front lines and fight. Oftentimes with their pen as their sword, they fight alongside and for Michael's right of humanity. By so doing, they fight for tolerance over prejudice, unconditional love over criticism; wisdom over ignorance and justice over inequality - not only for Michael, but for themselves as well. The battles are never-ending, hard-fought and oftentimes mentally and physically exhausting. Still, rather than surrender or reconcile, Michael's fans resist. They resist the desire to abandon Michael when all seems lost. They forsake the notion that theirs is a lost cause. They refuse to throw in the towel and resign themselves to the path of least resistance, which so often involves renouncing their fan support of Michael. When the going gets tough, with weary minds and heavy hearts, they press on. They press on through Michael's tribulations and the attacks to which he is subjected. They press on in spite of tire. They press on despite mockery and question as to why they bother fight at all for Michael Jackson, a man some deem undeserving of their adoration. Hazrat Inayat Khan once said, "God breaks the heart again and again until it stays open". Michael's devotees can see him as living proof of this idea, as he seems to be the embodiment of the notion. His own heart has been broken much and his fans personally feel the sting of each break. By the grace of God, Michael's heart does not become hardened as a result of its frequent fractures. To the contrary, his shattered heart allows for its tenderness and openness. Since out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks, Michael's fans are able to truly see the fullness of his heart when they listen to him articulate his desire for acceptance, understanding, positivity, love and peace through song and speech. As their efforts to break Jackson himself have continually proven unsuccessful, some Michael Jackson opponents have turned their focus to attempting to disband the fan community by attacking his defenders. Time after time, the press uses condescending, defamatory terms to describe Michael's fans. Being referred to as "delusional" and "Michael" is not foreign to Jackson's supporters. However, Michael's devotees choose to ignore the juvenile name-calling and taglines bestowed on them by the media. The fans refuse to allow the press to project its negative, inaccurate perception onto them. This is because Michael Jackson fans realize that such inflammatory terms do not depict their true nature as intelligent, grounded individuals with a healthy admiration for Michael's music, vision and humanitarianism among other things. Interestingly enough, Michael Jackson's influence is global and thus, so is his fan base. His detractors are under the false impression that his fan base is minuscule as well as one-dimensional. To the contrary, Michael Jackson enthusiasts are nothing if not vast and multi-dimensional. They can be found on every continent, in every country worldwide. Michael's fans transcend racial, age and socioeconomic boundaries. The fact that Michael's fans are so diverse adds to their beauty. Few entertainers, if any, can lay claim to having the type of dynamic and varied fan base of which Michael Jackson can boast. If it is true our lives are open books for others to read, then the fans' study of Michael Jackson has taught them more than they ever could have imagined they would learn about life, love and survival. Michael Jackson is a living testament of the notion that whatever one dreams and desires for his or her life can be achieved. Michael lives by the mantra that love should have no limitations -no conditions. Michael has shown all who dare take notice that it is possible to not only stay alive, but to thrive, with grace and fortitude despite adversity. By merely existing, Michael Jackson has taught his fans what it is to dream without fear, to create without boundaries, to listen without prejudice and to love without judgment. Simply, Michael Jackson's fans are a hard act to outshine.
Their loyalty, enthusiasm, intelligence and genuine adoration of their musical idol is unparalleled by other artists' fan communities. However, for all their attributes, when it comes to one particular matter, Michael Jackson's admiring fans, will always be bested. For try as they might, no matter to what infinite degree they say and believe they love Michael Jackson, the King of Pop in true regal fashion, will always say and prove he loves them more ...


I need to frame this and put this on my wall. Seriously, bloody true! Thank you for sharing dag!
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Reply #95 posted 04/08/10 7:56am

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Vanilli said:

dag said:

An article from 2005 posted on KOP board.


I need to frame this and put this on my wall. Seriously, bloody true! Thank you for sharing dag!


I gave up. For all i know it might well be one of the most well written things ever, but it still needs bloody paragraphs. mad
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Reply #96 posted 04/08/10 9:51am

angel345

Marrk said:

Vanilli said:



I need to frame this and put this on my wall. Seriously, bloody true! Thank you for sharing dag!


I gave up. For all i know it might well be one of the most well written things ever, but it still needs bloody paragraphs. mad

I agree, because it's so long, but it's still heartfelt mushy
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Reply #97 posted 04/08/10 11:45am

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I love this recording. Michael sounds just like one of my relatives during this phone call. lol It's great someone (I guess from Ryan's family) uploaded it online. woot!
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #98 posted 04/08/10 11:51am

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Aww @ Michael and Ryan. smile
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Reply #99 posted 04/08/10 12:00pm

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I can´t understand half ot the thing in that Ryan phone convo. I wish there was a transcript.
I need to frame this and put this on my wall. Seriously, bloody true! Thank you for sharing dag!

You´re welcome. I shed a tear or two reading it.
[Edited 4/8/10 12:13pm]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #100 posted 04/08/10 12:14pm

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Marrk said:

Vanilli said:



I need to frame this and put this on my wall. Seriously, bloody true! Thank you for sharing dag!


I gave up. For all i know it might well be one of the most well written things ever, but it still needs bloody paragraphs. mad

It was tough to read like that. I copied it to Word, made the letters bigger and read it this way.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #101 posted 04/08/10 5:37pm

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WaterInYourBath said:



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I love this recording. Michael sounds just like one of my relatives during this phone call. lol It's great someone (I guess from Ryan's family) uploaded it online. woot!


I teared up listening to this. Is that weird? Michael was so sweet,and this is just one example of it. I really do miss him. sad
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #102 posted 04/08/10 6:26pm

tangerine7

This thread seems to be moving slow.. neutral
A picture post then...?
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Reply #103 posted 04/08/10 7:30pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

WaterInYourBath said:



giggle

I love this recording. Michael sounds just like one of my relatives during this phone call. lol It's great someone (I guess from Ryan's family) uploaded it online. woot!


I teared up listening to this. Is that weird? Michael was so sweet,and this is just one example of it. I really do miss him. sad

No, not at all. smile .... neutral
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Reply #104 posted 04/08/10 8:01pm

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EmeraldSkies said:



I teared up listening to this. Is that weird? Michael was so sweet,and this is just one example of it. I really do miss him. sad

No, not at all. smile .... neutral

Nah I miss him like crazy.. for other 'celebs' to be still upset and some of them spent time with MJ shows that Michael is greatly missed by soo many..including myself.
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Reply #105 posted 04/08/10 8:04pm

tangerine7

I wonder if this was Michael's dog then? I had a family dog just like that when I was little. I know Michael said that he didn't like dogs in his laer years but he might have had liked them when younger cause he seemed to have a few.
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Reply #106 posted 04/08/10 8:20pm

Timmy84

Yeah he liked dogs. But I think after one of the dogs died, he suddenly didn't like him. I wonder what got him to be fearful of them.
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Reply #107 posted 04/08/10 8:28pm

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Yeah he liked dogs. But I think after one of the dogs died, he suddenly didn't like him. I wonder what got him to be fearful of them.

I thought that he probably did,because how he loved amimals. I didn't know one had died though. that's always sad when u get close to a dog.I remember either reading or him saying in an video interview, he was talking about how he thought that dogs had the owners personally all bottled up in them. Something to the effect that the dogs' owners put all their bottled up frustration in the dog. Can't remember where I read/listened to him saying that.
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Reply #108 posted 04/08/10 8:29pm

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Timmy84 said:

Yeah he liked dogs. But I think after one of the dogs died, he suddenly didn't like him. I wonder what got him to be fearful of them.

I thought that he probably did,because how he loved amimals. I didn't know one had died though. that's always sad when u get close to a dog.I remember either reading or him saying in an video interview, he was talking about how he thought that dogs had the owners personally all bottled up in them. Something to the effect that the dogs' owners put all their bottled up frustration in the dog. Can't remember where I read/listened to him saying that.


That's probably why. shrug
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Reply #109 posted 04/08/10 8:36pm

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Reply #110 posted 04/08/10 8:44pm

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tangerine7 said:


I thought that he probably did,because how he loved amimals. I didn't know one had died though. that's always sad when u get close to a dog.I remember either reading or him saying in an video interview, he was talking about how he thought that dogs had the owners personally all bottled up in them. Something to the effect that the dogs' owners put all their bottled up frustration in the dog. Can't remember where I read/listened to him saying that.


That's probably why. shrug

yeah.. makes sense since it came from his mouth. I remeber him not exactly liking Elizabeth's lil' dog.
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Reply #111 posted 04/08/10 11:56pm

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Reply #112 posted 04/09/10 1:31am

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^^^Take that away, we already met the grease levels for this thread with pictures of Michael's jheri curl lol
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Reply #113 posted 04/09/10 2:48am

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Reply #114 posted 04/09/10 5:40am

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #115 posted 04/09/10 6:39am

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OMFG omfg. what the fuck wrong with his weird hair? No NO, there is something wrong.
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #116 posted 04/09/10 8:35am

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cloud9


Such a cute picture.

To bad Deepak was so eager to get on any show to speak of Michael's addiction. Some friend.
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Oopsy repeat!
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Reply #118 posted 04/09/10 8:40am

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Timmy84 said:

tangerine7 said:


I thought that he probably did,because how he loved amimals. I didn't know one had died though. that's always sad when u get close to a dog.I remember either reading or him saying in an video interview, he was talking about how he thought that dogs had the owners personally all bottled up in them. Something to the effect that the dogs' owners put all their bottled up frustration in the dog. Can't remember where I read/listened to him saying that.


That's probably why. shrug


I remember reading that Michael's kids, in the last years of his life begged him for a dog and he got them one. biggrin
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Reply #119 posted 04/09/10 10:15am

angel345

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PurpleMedley122 said:



cloud9


Such a cute picture.

To bad Deepak was so eager to get on any show to speak of Michael's addiction. Some friend.

Forget Deepak. I want to snuggle up with MJ cloud9
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