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Reply #240 posted 12/16/09 2:48pm

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I'm glad you mention The Temptations because they are a perfect example of how a comeback should be. They were old as hell when Rick James got them back together to do "Standing On The Top" and not only was it an ass shaker but the song kicked ass. But then again, the mainstream had taste back then.

I don't think The Jacksons' new album will be a complete flop because of all the media attention that is on them after Michael's death. A lot of the youngsters as well as the old fans will buy it because of all the hype that's going on after Michael's death. But in the long run, when Michael's death wears off, the youngsters will get bored with them and move on. If they were smart, they would focus on the older crowd which has no jams coming which they long for. I'm not saying they will stick with them because a lot of older people have become dull ass "family" types these days but their kids will be graduating soon and moving out and our divorce years will start occurring then....maybe that's when things will liven up....when these dull asses get divorces like the even older blues generation and starts going to the hole in the walls. lol

But with all the focus on The Jacksons right now, instead of them selling out, they really should try to do something to try to change things instead of being dull idiots and going along with the program. What they need to do is throwdown and throwdown hard! Take the shit hop drum machines out of the studio, load them at the truck, and drop them off at Toys R Us. It's the Christmas season and some four year old would love to have those fisher price toys they are recording with. Get a drummer and a bassist in there, speed things up, and tear the roof of the motherfucker. Tell the dead asses if they can't throwdown, sit down. Hell, they could even throw a chant on the record...."Either throw your ass down or SIT your ass down!". lol
I just can't see them on Ellen singin and dancin to promote the album .... maybe a sit down with Poprah or Larry.
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Reply #241 posted 12/16/09 2:48pm

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MOL said:

lowkey said:



wasnt said he refused to pay because he couldnt, according to jermaine's ex-babymomma tito stopped paying the tuition because his wife left him, i guess he felt he was hurting her or whatever. michael paid because those are his nephews and he wanted to, his brother didnt ask him to.

Don't be so naive. Tito could afford expensive cars and toys yet he couldn't pay his for his sons' education? Jermaine's ex wife STATED IN HER BOOK, DIRECTLY, that Tito was NOT a responsible father. His wife left him? HE CHEATED ON HIS WIFE IN FRONT OF HER. He left his wife, not the contrary you blind mouse. Nobody asked Michael to pay, because nobody gave a shit about the kids' education. They asked him to pay for their Rolls Royces...they didn't ask him to pay for their kids' education because they didn't care enough about it.
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Didn't all of the Jackson brothers cheat on their wives (not including MJ)?
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Reply #242 posted 12/16/09 2:51pm

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daPrettyman said:

MOL said:


Don't be so naive. Tito could afford expensive cars and toys yet he couldn't pay his for his sons' education? Jermaine's ex wife STATED IN HER BOOK, DIRECTLY, that Tito was NOT a responsible father. His wife left him? HE CHEATED ON HIS WIFE IN FRONT OF HER. He left his wife, not the contrary you blind mouse. Nobody asked Michael to pay, because nobody gave a shit about the kids' education. They asked him to pay for their Rolls Royces...they didn't ask him to pay for their kids' education because they didn't care enough about it.
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Didn't all of the Jackson brothers cheat on their wives (not including MJ)?

Marlon is the only one who didn't cheat
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Reply #243 posted 12/16/09 2:51pm

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Evvy said:

vainandy said:



I'm glad you mention The Temptations because they are a perfect example of how a comeback should be. They were old as hell when Rick James got them back together to do "Standing On The Top" and not only was it an ass shaker but the song kicked ass. But then again, the mainstream had taste back then.

I don't think The Jacksons' new album will be a complete flop because of all the media attention that is on them after Michael's death. A lot of the youngsters as well as the old fans will buy it because of all the hype that's going on after Michael's death. But in the long run, when Michael's death wears off, the youngsters will get bored with them and move on. If they were smart, they would focus on the older crowd which has no jams coming which they long for. I'm not saying they will stick with them because a lot of older people have become dull ass "family" types these days but their kids will be graduating soon and moving out and our divorce years will start occurring then....maybe that's when things will liven up....when these dull asses get divorces like the even older blues generation and starts going to the hole in the walls. lol

But with all the focus on The Jacksons right now, instead of them selling out, they really should try to do something to try to change things instead of being dull idiots and going along with the program. What they need to do is throwdown and throwdown hard! Take the shit hop drum machines out of the studio, load them at the truck, and drop them off at Toys R Us. It's the Christmas season and some four year old would love to have those fisher price toys they are recording with. Get a drummer and a bassist in there, speed things up, and tear the roof of the motherfucker. Tell the dead asses if they can't throwdown, sit down. Hell, they could even throw a chant on the record...."Either throw your ass down or SIT your ass down!". lol
I just can't see them on Ellen singin and dancin to promote the album .... maybe a sit down with Poprah or Larry.

By the time the album comes out, Oprah will be off the air and they will end up on Ellen. lol
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Reply #244 posted 12/16/09 2:52pm

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daPrettyman said:


Didn't all of the Jackson brothers cheat on their wives (not including MJ)?

Marlon is the only one who didn't cheat

He wasn't part of the Paula Abdul mess? Or the Whitney Houston mess?
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Reply #245 posted 12/16/09 2:52pm

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daPrettyman said:

Evvy said:

I just can't see them on Ellen singin and dancin to promote the album .... maybe a sit down with Poprah or Larry.

By the time the album comes out, Oprah will be off the air and they will end up on Ellen. lol

You say that likes it's a bad thing lol

Ellen is more watchable than Ms. Sofia lol
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Reply #246 posted 12/16/09 2:53pm

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daPrettyman said:


By the time the album comes out, Oprah will be off the air and they will end up on Ellen. lol

You say that likes it's a bad thing lol

Ellen is more watchable than Ms. Sofia lol

Not to me. I LOVE the QUEEN O!!! Ellen annoys me.
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Reply #247 posted 12/16/09 3:04pm

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I'm probably wrong but I think they can still have a legacy without being pressured to put on a concert.

I think they could all write books and hold workshops to teach younger artists what they learned performing on the road before Motown and all the stuff they learned at Motown from the writers and producers there. They don't have to put any personal stuff in it if they don't want to.

As far as performing as "The Jackson 4our" they are counting the days like Frankie Beverly without Maze.
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Reply #248 posted 12/16/09 3:30pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #249 posted 12/16/09 3:31pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #250 posted 12/16/09 3:33pm

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marlon and his grandkids, they are ADORABLE!



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Reply #251 posted 12/16/09 3:44pm

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Stevena Jackson '12

Name: Stevena Jackson
Year: 2012
House: Assigned to Winthrop, live in Matthews
Concentration: Philosophy
Hometown: Los Angeles
Relationship Status: Single



Describe yourself in 5 words: Spontaneous. Confident. Determined. Honest. Obsessively clean.
Do you have any previous modeling experience? Yes, I started my career in modeling at age 3. I was represented by Ford Models and did print for companies such as Guess, Land's End, and more.
Why are you modeling for Eleganza this year? I love modeling, I didn't have time to do it anymore in high school and this was the perfect opportunity to get involved with something that I really missed.
What is your favorite thing about Eleganza? The crazy rehearsals. The music is always great, the company is wonderful, and even though it's long hours we still have a great time.
What is your best physical feature? My hair!! It definitely is my most defining feature, my "signature" I guess you could say.
If you could change one thing about your body what would it be? I'd like to maybe reach 5'5" one day. That'd be nice.
What is your favorite place to eat in Harvard Square? Qdoba! Didn't have to think twice.
Where is the best place to go on a Saturday night at Harvard? As long as I'm with my girls, it doesn't matter.
Where is the worst place to go on a Saturday night at Harvard? Lamont. UHS. Annenberg. Any of those.
Tell us one thing about you that people are usually surprised to hear: People are usually surprised that I'm half Persian (and that I speak it too), I usually get somewhere in South America. But nope, half persian and half black.
Anything else you’d like to tell us? It's going to be an amazing show, I better see everyone out there!
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Reply #252 posted 12/16/09 3:50pm

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randy jr is in the first episode


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Reply #253 posted 12/16/09 3:52pm

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mimi07 said:

Marrk said:



i watched it on youtube, i saw no evidence of that.

they called janet on her birthday which is in may

Sure did!
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Reply #254 posted 12/16/09 3:58pm

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I don't doubt that the Jacksons (be it the 4 orignals or all 5) can make a great album featuring brand new material, all they need to do is be orignal and keep that diva Jermaine in line before he gets out of control.

What would be painful to see is the Jacksons performing old J5 or The Jacksons material without Michael.

Matter of fact, I saw on the show how they wanted to do one of Michael's songs, now that would be interesting, but listening to 'I Want You Back' 'ABC' 'I'll Be There' 'Can You Feel It' without Michael, I don't know confused .
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Reply #255 posted 12/16/09 4:37pm

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I hope MJ's unreleased tracks get the attention this mess of a show is getting.
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Reply #256 posted 12/16/09 4:53pm

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Vanilli said:

I hope MJ's unreleased tracks get the attention this mess of a show is getting.

when they're released they will

what's wrong with the show?
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Reply #257 posted 12/16/09 4:56pm

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mimi07 said:

Vanilli said:

I hope MJ's unreleased tracks get the attention this mess of a show is getting.

when they're released they will

what's wrong with the show?
[Edited 12/16/09 16:53pm]

Im enjoying the show.
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Reply #258 posted 12/16/09 5:05pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

mimi07 said:


when they're released they will

what's wrong with the show?
[Edited 12/16/09 16:53pm]

Im enjoying the show.

me 2
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Reply #259 posted 12/16/09 5:09pm

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Was I the only one who watched the show and appreciated Marlon and Tito a lot more and resented Jermaine a lot more? It was such a nice surprise to see Katherine Jackson. She is a true class act.


Agreed. Marlon and Tito have awesome personalities and are now my faves (well aside from MJ). They both seemed really level headed and down to earth. Jackie I found to be sweet and sensitive, but he was kinda laid back.

Jermaine behaved just like I thought he would. Total camera hog and diva. He thinks it's all about him. After watching the show, I dislike him now even more than I did before. But I admit he can sing and is talented.

If the Jackson's do come out with a new record though, I will probably buy it if it's any good but I have to say it will never be the same without Michael for me.Watching the Jackson brothers rehearse on the show and in the studio, it was so noticeable that without Michael, the group is really lacking something. It's not just about vocals either 'cause as I said Jermaine can sing very well, but no one in the group has that charisma and energy MJ did. He was a great frontman and simply cannot be replaced.

Oh well, I suppose they have to move on of course. I do hope the new album is good and a success for them.
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Reply #260 posted 12/16/09 5:43pm

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i have mixed feeling about jermaine, but i can kinda understand him not wanting to pay that alejandra chick, her ass is living with his mother.he did try to get custody of his 2 sons and its been reported that he gives his oldest son money directly but not the mother. mrs jackson has gone to court to get her out of the house but the jufge always sides with the babymother for some reason.

The same Jermaine who refused to wish his kids "happy Birthday"? Jermaine is a younger version of Joe and that is the reason as to why he was his old man's favorite child.
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ok when did jermaine's kid tell you he didnt wish his kids a happy birthday?
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Reply #261 posted 12/16/09 5:52pm

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wasnt said he refused to pay because he couldnt, according to jermaine's ex-babymomma tito stopped paying the tuition because his wife left him, i guess he felt he was hurting her or whatever. michael paid because those are his nephews and he wanted to, his brother didnt ask him to.

Don't be so naive. Tito could afford expensive cars and toys yet he couldn't pay his for his sons' education? Jermaine's ex wife STATED IN HER BOOK, DIRECTLY, that Tito was NOT a responsible father. His wife left him? HE CHEATED ON HIS WIFE IN FRONT OF HER. He left his wife, not the contrary you blind mouse. Nobody asked Michael to pay, because nobody gave a shit about the kids' education. They asked him to pay for their Rolls Royces...they didn't ask him to pay for their kids' education because they didn't care enough about it.
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im not naive at all i just dont act like i know whats going on behind these peoples doors or what they have in their bank accounts, ect. jermaine's babymomma (she was never his wife)wrote a book and passed on second hand info,tito's sons seem to think he was a great father and i will believe them over you and jermaine's former girlfriend, who herself got pregnant by a married man. him cheating on his wife is their business not yours, i really dont kn ow what you was trying to say with this comment 'he left his wife not the contrary' huh? i understand you are a super weird mj fanatic but you really need to chill talking about people not caring for their kids and shit like that.
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Reply #262 posted 12/16/09 6:01pm

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lowkey said:

MOL said:


The same Jermaine who refused to wish his kids "happy Birthday"? Jermaine is a younger version of Joe and that is the reason as to why he was his old man's favorite child.
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ok when did jermaine's kid tell you he didnt wish his kids a happy birthday?

lol who knows
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Reply #263 posted 12/16/09 6:48pm

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'scuse my ignorance. great thread by the way, but whose daughter is Steveana? and who in the hell is Brandi and Suggy?
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Reply #264 posted 12/16/09 6:54pm

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'scuse my ignorance. great thread by the way, but whose daughter is Steveana? and who in the hell is Brandi and Suggy?

Steveana is Steven's daughter. Siggy and Brandi are Sigmund's kids.
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Reply #265 posted 12/16/09 7:44pm

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MOL said:


Don't be so naive. Tito could afford expensive cars and toys yet he couldn't pay his for his sons' education? Jermaine's ex wife STATED IN HER BOOK, DIRECTLY, that Tito was NOT a responsible father. His wife left him? HE CHEATED ON HIS WIFE IN FRONT OF HER. He left his wife, not the contrary you blind mouse. Nobody asked Michael to pay, because nobody gave a shit about the kids' education. They asked him to pay for their Rolls Royces...they didn't ask him to pay for their kids' education because they didn't care enough about it.
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im not naive at all i just dont act like i know whats going on behind these peoples doors or what they have in their bank accounts, ect. jermaine's babymomma (she was never his wife)wrote a book and passed on second hand info,tito's sons seem to think he was a great father and i will believe them over you and jermaine's former girlfriend, who herself got pregnant by a married man. him cheating on his wife is their business not yours, i really dont kn ow what you was trying to say with this comment 'he left his wife not the contrary' huh? i understand you are a super weird mj fanatic but you really need to chill talking about people not caring for their kids and shit like that.



Well said! It's so tired -hearing people talk about the personal details of these people's lifes like they live with them! Just enjoy the music and stop with all the family drama and gossip!
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Reply #266 posted 12/16/09 8:06pm

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Stevena Jackson '12

Name: Stevena Jackson
Year: 2012
House: Assigned to Winthrop, live in Matthews
Concentration: Philosophy
Hometown: Los Angeles
Relationship Status: Single



Describe yourself in 5 words: Spontaneous. Confident. Determined. Honest. Obsessively clean.
Do you have any previous modeling experience? Yes, I started my career in modeling at age 3. I was represented by Ford Models and did print for companies such as Guess, Land's End, and more.
Why are you modeling for Eleganza this year? I love modeling, I didn't have time to do it anymore in high school and this was the perfect opportunity to get involved with something that I really missed.
What is your favorite thing about Eleganza? The crazy rehearsals. The music is always great, the company is wonderful, and even though it's long hours we still have a great time.
What is your best physical feature? My hair!! It definitely is my most defining feature, my "signature" I guess you could say.
If you could change one thing about your body what would it be? I'd like to maybe reach 5'5" one day. That'd be nice.
What is your favorite place to eat in Harvard Square? Qdoba! Didn't have to think twice.
Where is the best place to go on a Saturday night at Harvard? As long as I'm with my girls, it doesn't matter.
Where is the worst place to go on a Saturday night at Harvard? Lamont. UHS. Annenberg. Any of those.
Tell us one thing about you that people are usually surprised to hear: People are usually surprised that I'm half Persian (and that I speak it too), I usually get somewhere in South America. But nope, half persian and half black.
Anything else you’d like to tell us? It's going to be an amazing show, I better see everyone out there!
Freeze College Magazine

I don't know which one I should marry and impregnate: Steveanna or Brandi.....

decisions...decisions... lol
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Reply #267 posted 12/16/09 8:11pm

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bboy87 said:

mimi07 said:

Stevena Jackson '12

Name: Stevena Jackson
Year: 2012
House: Assigned to Winthrop, live in Matthews
Concentration: Philosophy
Hometown: Los Angeles
Relationship Status: Single



Describe yourself in 5 words: Spontaneous. Confident. Determined. Honest. Obsessively clean.
Do you have any previous modeling experience? Yes, I started my career in modeling at age 3. I was represented by Ford Models and did print for companies such as Guess, Land's End, and more.
Why are you modeling for Eleganza this year? I love modeling, I didn't have time to do it anymore in high school and this was the perfect opportunity to get involved with something that I really missed.
What is your favorite thing about Eleganza? The crazy rehearsals. The music is always great, the company is wonderful, and even though it's long hours we still have a great time.
What is your best physical feature? My hair!! It definitely is my most defining feature, my "signature" I guess you could say.
If you could change one thing about your body what would it be? I'd like to maybe reach 5'5" one day. That'd be nice.
What is your favorite place to eat in Harvard Square? Qdoba! Didn't have to think twice.
Where is the best place to go on a Saturday night at Harvard? As long as I'm with my girls, it doesn't matter.
Where is the worst place to go on a Saturday night at Harvard? Lamont. UHS. Annenberg. Any of those.
Tell us one thing about you that people are usually surprised to hear: People are usually surprised that I'm half Persian (and that I speak it too), I usually get somewhere in South America. But nope, half persian and half black.
Anything else you’d like to tell us? It's going to be an amazing show, I better see everyone out there!
Freeze College Magazine

I don't know which one I should marry and impregnate: Steveanna or Brandi.....

decisions...decisions... lol

I don't know how many times I'm gonna tell lil dude, watch back ...
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Reply #268 posted 12/16/09 8:23pm

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Stevanna was smart enough to get an education and make a name for herself instead of milking off the Jackson name. She's gonna be the Rashida Jones of the family.
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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:


I don't know which one I should marry and impregnate: Steveanna or Brandi.....

decisions...decisions... lol

I don't know how many times I'm gonna tell lil dude, watch back ...

you can have Genevieve and Rebbie's daughters cool lol
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