bboy87 said:

Thanks for posting.

carlcranshaw said:

this is a joke right? joe hates gays.

dearmother said:

It's one of those (REO Speedwagon voice) "Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who....." stories I've heard from people in the industry. It's like the thing at the baseball game I mentioned. It's not etched in stone as a fact but one of those "Industry Stories".

What's weird is we had a band manager from LA who told us this years ago before Stacey Brown along with the Gina Sprauge story and we were like "No blankety blank way. I don't believe that."

So as always use your sense of discernment.

carlcranshaw said:

it sounds like something from that Velvet Rope forum though.....

dearmother said:

Not only does he hate gays, but do you really think that he would do that to one of his kids? The guy is an asshole and he abused his children physically and emotionally, but let's be real, I doubt he did this to purposely harm them. In his twisted mind he was probably thinking that it was for their own good. He obviously did care about them. If anything, I think he probably forced Michael to be with women at a young age to "make him a man." That's probably one more thing that affected Michael's relationship with women.

LaSeles said:

Yeah I agree with this. I think that allegation is pushing it too far along with the sexual abuse of his daughters claim. I don't believe Joe wanted to hurt them in that kind of way. I think he did the horrible things he did as a way of making sure they always obeyed him.

Maybe, if there is any kind of truth to the rumour, it could be that Joe was too trusting and eager for more business deals and didnt know the sexual abuse was going on. Maybe he thought the businessmen actually did want to discuss business with Michael. But I just can't see any of that kind of stuff going on. As soft as Michael is I dont think he would of let that happen or put up with it. He still seemed quite strong behind the shyness

Stacy Brow is full of it. Just another shit stirrer who had a man-crush on Jackson.

I often wonder how people like him make a living. I mean, who pays them... gives them employment and currency... for the worthless shit they do?

Arnotts said:

Destroying his kids' self-esteem was a way of getting control. Joe wanted his kids to think they were nothings and that they needed him for the rest of their lives, therefore they would never fire him as their manager. That was Joe's way of controlling his kids, of making sure he would always be able to make money off of them.

The abuse was also a way of scaring his kids and, therefore, make them obey him. It was a way of making them do exactly what he wanted. A way of making them do exactly what he desired, without any opposition (because they were frightened). Latoya mentioned that in her book, by the way!
And Joe had another strategy: isolate his sons from the world. An isolated person tends to be naive, easily manipulable. That's exactly what Joe wanted. He didn't wnat Michael to "get smart" because he would start realizing that some of Joe's management choices only benefited his father's money-hungry ways. Joe wanted to keep Michael naive and manipulable so that he would always be capable of deceiving his son, of making bad career choices for him (choices that would only benefit Joe) without opposition from his son, without being fired, without protest.

PS: I think Joe is an evil guy, but I don't think he would let his slave/son be sexually abused, because: 1- He hates gays. 2- He thinks Michael had to have sex with women in order to "become a man". Being sexually abused wouldn't help the process. However, do I believe that Joe was capable of prostituting his son for a LOT of money? Yes.
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Two different reports:










I refuse to believe in this. I sincerely don't think Joe is that bad.

To anyone who doens't know who Daphne Barak is, here's a brief explanation: she's just like Mike Walker, former National Enquirer's director.
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Heres a link to a song they couldnt get clearance for

What have We Done (features a Michael Jackson sample)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4S1T2EER

love it!!

on a vh1 special they said some family member tipped in to buy mj a prostitute. at least that story was believable

well not thatd need to buy a woman when thtey had those groupies. i wonder if the bros. ever pressured mj to have sex with women

I spent this afternoon browsing through the Opus. It's a beautiful tribute to MJ. But, despite the size of it and its many pages it still doesn't cover EVERYTHING, I guess his phenomenal career can't be contained in a book. I smiled all the way through, but when I reached the end and closed the book, a sadness came over me. I didn't want the book to end. I'm fine now, though. That's just how it is being a lover of MJ.

ViintageJunkiie said:

wishing death on someone is not good but doing so doesnt' make you a killer. if i wish for a million dollars does that make me a millionaire?
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that would be nice wouldn't it

Posted at MJJC:

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FINAL UPDATE: ALBUM SALES FOR 2009, BOTH US AND GLOBALLY.

*Jackson SOLD 24,800,000 albums in 2009 including Jackson 5 material, Motown, and Sony albums.

*Sony shipped 30,000,000 albums in 2009 while Motown shipped 1,500,000

*Jackson sold 9,000,000 albums in the US which makes him the best selling act this year.

*Jackson is the biggest selling musical act in the US, UK, Europe, Japan, and Globally.

*MJ's Global sales were huge and outpaced the nearest competition by over double. (#2 were The Beatles who sold 11 million albums this year vs Jackson's 24.8 million).

bboy87 said:

wow

bboy87 said:

What was this for? Looks like the same outfit MJ wore on one of the covers to his singles from Thriller

ViintageJunkiie said:

This was the Sam Emerson photoshoot from 1983

more pictures from that photoshoot




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mimi07 said:

Over the Christmas break my family had an impromptu Michael Jackson dance party with every generation participating. We chatted about MJ's influence, his energy. My aunt said she wondered if he knew he was appreciated and LOVED as much as he is and I said ABSOLUTELY! How could he have not known how much he was adored by his fans? No one can have the kinds of successes that he continues to have (even in death) and not know how special he was to us. This guy sold out the O2 Arena 50 times (and probably could have sold it out 100 times) in record time. The outpouring of LOVE and GRIEF worldwide has been unprecedented in every nook and cranny of the globe. Sure. He knew he was loved

What will become of Michael's giving tree at Neverland? Is it still standing tall? I think that tree is like a piece of pop culture history. If it wasn't for that tree, the world might not have some of Michael's most well known songs. I hope whoever ends up with Neverland Ranch keeps that tree well taken care.

I don't remember if I saw it in Jermaine's interview on Larry King from Neverland back in July or not. Anyone know?

Vanilli said:

Is it that tree that Martin Bashir was scared to climb?

dreamfactory313 said:

I'm sure he loved the adulation of his fans, but I remembered in his book "Moonwalker" when he was talking about fame, he said everyone wants a piece of him. Therefore, I am sure he went through moments where he wondered is he loved because he's Micheal Jackson or is he truly loved because he's Micheal Jackson, especially his inner circle of people.

angel345 said:

That's the one. I love that tree.
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MSNBC reports that Los Angeles prosecutors and the LAPD are seeking manslaughter charges against Dr. Murray and they'll be going to a grand jury in 2010.

This is the only link I could find at the moment: Jackson Doctor Conrad Murray to Avoid Murder Charge? -Newsroom| Posted on 12/28/09|Filed Under Pop Culture, Michael Jackson

Embattled physician Conrad Murray will likely evade murder charges related to the death of Michael Jackson if sources close to the Los Angeles District Attorney's office are correct. According to the Daily Beast, prosecutors have decided to avoid a complicated murder charge and will instead look to charge the same man who administered what has been called a "lethal cocktail" of drugs with manslaughter. While currently, Dr. Murray is allowed to practice, sources say he could be charged early next year when prosecuters present their case to a grand jury. Dr. Murray has been under investigation since Jackson's death June 25. http://www.singersroom.co.../...Search + Results *article from another fansite.
Wonder how true this is...??

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tangerine7 said:

*sighs*

I swear Thriller Michael and Bad Michael are two different artists