dearmother said:

That's what I don't understand.

They were live like queens and kings at Havenyhurst years before, and they just didn't understand how to save their money properly, and stop being dependent on Michael for every little thing.

Jermaine had every chance to launch a successful career of his own, but screwed it up. Jermaine doesn't impress me one bit for some of the things he did. If he can't afford child support, stop messing around with women. Stop nagging your brother for a Jackon 5 tour b/c of problems you put yourself in.
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it doesn't sound like janet's all that embedded in the family either, figures

it doesn't sound like janet's all that embedded in the family either, figures

Does anyone find it incredibly ironic that the same justice system that wanted to lock michael up for good is trying so hard to gather evidence for the people who killed him?

dearmother said:

Michael and Janet isolating themselves from the family ain't nothing new tho, there's members of my family that we isolate from because they never ever call us unless it was for food or a get-together, they don't never randomly call up. Then some get pissy when you don't call them either, lol.

mozfonky said:

justice is blind

Timmy84 said:

But Janet doesn't isolate herself.

Plenty of photos of her with her family at every little thing. Taj accompanying her to Ellen, Genevieve going to the studio with her, out shopping with LaToya.

Janet didn't do the isolation shit like Mike...and it cost him...alot

That's how he ended up with the Arvizos and the Chandlers and the Lesters...

His family may ask for money, but trust, he wasn't gonna end up accused of child molestation twice.

dearmother said:

That's what I don't understand.

They were live like queens and kings at Havenyhurst years before, and they just didn't understand how to save their money properly, and stop being dependent on Michael for every little thing.

Jermaine had every chance to launch a successful career of his own, but screwed it up. Jermaine doesn't impress me one bit for some of the things he did. If he can't afford child support, stop messing around with women. Stop nagging your brother for a Jackon 5 tour b/c of problems you put yourself in.
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jamgirl said:

Janet also had a normal upbringing too and she wasn't thrown into having a musical career at an early age too.

Janet was 16 when she started thinking about her career seriously.

We all know that Michael's issues go all the way back to Gary, when Joe was extremely hard on him.

suga10 said:

i agree with this

anyone who thinks otherwise should read up on how he was pressured into the victory tour and how that all went to shit. it sounds like the brothers/papa joe would get katherine to talk michael into stuff. not cool.

Janet also had a normal upbringing too and she wasn't thrown into having a musical career at an early age too.

Janet was 16 when she started thinking about her career seriously.

We all know that Michael's issues go all the way back to Gary, when Joe was extremely hard on him, and that's why he isolated himself in the years to come.
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btw im not sayin thats the ONLY reason mj isolated himself from his family but it's a part of it

jamgirl said:

Janet also had a normal upbringing too and she wasn't thrown into having a musical career at an early age too.

Janet was 16 when she started thinking about her career seriously.

We all know that Michael's issues go all the way back to Gary, when Joe was extremely hard on him, and that's why he isolated himself in the years to come.
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ehuffnsd said:

Read my quote on my signature, lol.
Can't say Richard was lying.
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suga10 said:

yeah janet wasn't exposed to the same crap michael was..and the stuff she did have in common with michael i think she probably learned from it pretty quickly.

dearmother said:

Right the Victory Tour.

And don't forget, the Pepsi Commericial too which his family forced him into doing, and we all know the consequences of that ad.

No Pepsi Commercial= No painkiller addiction.
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Maybe she wasn't.

But I guess as they say, the more talented you are, the more fucked up your life tends to be.

Timmy84 said:

i'm an idealist. do you think i run around to protests in full nun drug because it's fun?

you think its normal to regurgitate at the sight of your father?

I heard that michael had Schizophrenia is there any truth to that?

suga10 said:

REALLY...

His family FORCED him into doing that commercial....

OK.

I see.

And that is y he did commercials for Pepsi during the Bad and Dangerous eras until the allegations in 93.

U ppl amaze me somtimes with such bullshit.

jamgirl said:

and the more pressure from others around you, some people might be equipped to deal with it..some arent
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babybugz said:

I never heard that.

dearmother said:

Or to say shit to get sympathy of ppl.

I don't bleev that for a second, Michael was LYING when he said that.