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Printablesuga10 said: I dare someone to interview Dr. Nick and ask him if he's feeling Deja-Vu all over again.
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Timmy84 said: ehuffnsd said: if she had been alive. You mean "he" and yeah I meant if Elvis had become a NEW STAR in the '70s like MJ and then died at 50 this year, the same thing we're seeing with MJ would've no doubt happen to Elvis. There would be murder conspiracies, leaks and shit. He probably won't get any coverage about his children but he'll no doubt be called "a drug addict" as the LAPD has basically labeled MJ in their investigation. Elvis' mother died in 1958 oh and Michael was a drug addict. you can't get around that. [Edited 8/10/09 15:05pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Timmy84 said: You mean "he" and yeah I meant if Elvis had become a NEW STAR in the '70s like MJ and then died at 50 this year, the same thing we're seeing with MJ would've no doubt happen to Elvis. There would be murder conspiracies, leaks and shit. He probably won't get any coverage about his children but he'll no doubt be called "a drug addict" as the LAPD has basically labeled MJ in their investigation. Elvis' mother died in 1958 oh and Michael was a drug addict. you can't get around that. [Edited 8/10/09 15:05pm] Elvis mother's name was Gladys. Vernon was his father's name. Remember Joseph Jackson said "they killed my boy", that's why I mentioned Vernon's name.  I didn't say his mother.  | |
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Timmy84 said: ehuffnsd said: Elvis' mother died in 1958 oh and Michael was a drug addict. you can't get around that. [Edited 8/10/09 15:05pm] Elvis mother's name was Gladys. Vernon was his father's name. Remember Joseph Jackson said "they killed my boy", that's why I mentioned Vernon's name. I didn't say his mother. i could have sworn you originally stated mother, that's why i commented with she i didn't see a name. i think you edited while i was replying. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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suga10 said: Timmy84 said: LOL I see. But let's compared Presley's death with Jackson's. OK, Elvis reportedly went into his bathroom at around, what 12:00-something when he croaked over, Elvis laid there for about an hour or two (I think) before Ginger Alden woke up to find Elvis, in his underwear, on the floor face down. There were reports from that day that said Elvis was given CPR, but one of his bodyguards, who wasn't there, said that didn't happen because Elvis had dropped on his chin and that immediately cut off passage making CPR impossible. Doctors who arrived didn't dare yet declare Elvis dead, so they brought him to the hospital. At this point, FOUR hours had already passed when Elvis croaked. Elvis was already dead but doctors still tried to resuscitate him until his personal nurse screamed in tears to stop because Elvis was already looking pale and gone. News reports originally said that he died of cardiac arrhythmia according to autopsy reports though this was always disputed (and that could be a reason why they haven't yet announced the cause of Michael's death because Elvis' autopsy reports was a lie). During all of this, Elvis' people took out all the drugs Elvis was using and emptied them in hopes in not telling the world that Elvis was addicted to prescription pills. This made the investigation into Elvis' death confusing because Memphis police couldn't yet investigate any possible doctors who may have given him the drugs that killed him though it was reported Elvis had taken his pills hours before his death and a 1994 autopsy into his body said he died of a violent heart attack though it's believed he died of multiple drug toxicity. Police tried charging Dr. Nick (Elvis' doctor) for negligence in 1980 but they couldn't prove Nick was guilty because Nick was trying to wean Elvis off his prescription drug cocktail in his final years. Conrad Murray is the Dr. Nick of the new millennium in this case though UNLIKE Dr. Nick, Michael had just hired him days before his death. I wonder how long it took until they called 911 on Elvis, probably longer than MJ's. Also Elvis was struggling with his weight too in his final days, which could have been another factor in why he died. Funny thing is Elvis was already slowly killing himself with all that food, MJ was trying not to get over indulgent with whatever food he ate, as his chef said, MJ wanted to be healthy for the tour. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Timmy84 said: Elvis mother's name was Gladys. Vernon was his father's name. Remember Joseph Jackson said "they killed my boy", that's why I mentioned Vernon's name. I didn't say his mother. i could have sworn you originally stated mother, that's why i commented with she i didn't see a name. i think you edited while i was replying. No the only parts I edited was the past tense of the quote "they murder/murdered my boy", other than that, I never even had "mother" or "father" in there. I just said the dude's name. | |
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Man so many parallels between Elvis and Michael's death
Presley's final performance was in Indianapolis at the Market Square Arena, on June 26, 1977. According to many of his entourage who accompanied him on tour, it was the "best show he had given in a long time" with "some strong singing".[60]
Elvis last performance on June 26 1977, and Michael last performance June 24 2009 Death was officially pronounced at 3:30 pm at the Baptist Memorial Hospital.
Michael Jackson 2:26 PM (LA time), but only a an hour apart almost. Elvis Presley was buried at Forest Hill Cemetery in Memphis, next to his mother
Michael- Forest Lawn Cemetary. | |
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suga10 said: Man so many parallels between Elvis and Michael's death
Presley's final performance was in Indianapolis at the Market Square Arena, on June 26, 1977. According to many of his entourage who accompanied him on tour, it was the "best show he had given in a long time" with "some strong singing".[60]
Elvis last performance on June 26 1977, and Michael last performance June 24 2009 Michael Jackson 2:26 PM (LA time), but only a an hour apart almost. Elvis Presley was buried at Forest Hill Cemetery in Memphis, next to his mother
Michael- Forest Lawn Cemetary. I heard Michael's paternal grandmother was laid to rest at Forest Lawn Cemetery. | |
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What does this mean 
http://www.tmz.com/ UPDATE: This is really important. The judge just appointed a guardian ad litem for the 3 Jackson kids. That means they will have independent representation in court proceedings. The notion -- that the interests of the kids may not completely square with the interests of Katherine Jackson or the estate. It's not unusual this happened, but it's significant.
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suga10 said: What does this mean
http://www.tmz.com/ UPDATE: This is really important. The judge just appointed a guardian ad litem for the 3 Jackson kids. That means they will have independent representation in court proceedings. The notion -- that the interests of the kids may not completely square with the interests of Katherine Jackson or the estate. It's not unusual this happened, but it's significant.
Hell if I know. | |
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Timmy84 said: ehuffnsd said: i could have sworn you originally stated mother, that's why i commented with she i didn't see a name. i think you edited while i was replying. No the only parts I edited was the past tense of the quote "they murder/murdered my boy", other than that, I never even had "mother" or "father" in there. I just said the dude's name. for some reason than i guess with Katherine on my mind i thought you were speaking of his mother i didn't notice the name... i tend to skim alot. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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suga10 said: What does this mean
http://www.tmz.com/ UPDATE: This is really important. The judge just appointed a guardian ad litem for the 3 Jackson kids. That means they will have independent representation in court proceedings. The notion -- that the interests of the kids may not completely square with the interests of Katherine Jackson or the estate. It's not unusual this happened, but it's significant.
the kids will have someone represent them seperately from their grandmother and the estate "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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ehuffnsd said: Timmy84 said: No the only parts I edited was the past tense of the quote "they murder/murdered my boy", other than that, I never even had "mother" or "father" in there. I just said the dude's name. for some reason than i guess with Katherine on my mind i thought you were speaking of his mother i didn't notice the name... i tend to skim alot. Oh OK, I gotcha. | |
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A Place With No Name was recorded in 1998 in London. Produced by Michael and Dr. Freeze "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: A Place With No Name was recorded in 1998 in London. Produced by Michael and Dr. Freeze
So in other words it's part of the "Invincible" sessions. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: A Place With No Name was recorded in 1998 in London. Produced by Michael and Dr. Freeze
So in other words it's part of the "Invincible" sessions. yep, the ORIGINAL sessions "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: So in other words it's part of the "Invincible" sessions. yep, the ORIGINAL sessions Interesting. | |
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Jackson merchandise deal delayed
(AP) – 32 minutes ago LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson fans will have to wait a little longer for official merchandise after a judge delayed his approval of key contracts. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff declined to rule on merchandising deals after the singer's mother raised several issues. Beckloff wants to appoint an attorney to represent the interests of Jackson's three children, who are substantial beneficiaries to their father's estate, along with Katherine Jackson. The proposed agreements are between Jackson's estate and concert promoter AEG Live and merchandiser Bravado, which would get worldwide rights to sell Jackson-themed goods and exhibit memorabilia. Beckloff said Monday he will decide on the issue in a week, if not sooner. Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. | |
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ehuffnsd said: jamgirl said: UPDATE: AEG is proposing a Michael Jackson memorabilia tour that would visit three cities. Y is AEG in anyways s a part of his estate? because they invested some 35million dollars that they need to make back and he they have legal contracts that require it probably. Theyve already made it back, havent they? Alof of fans didnt even get refunds. They got commemorative tickets + they just sold the rehearsal footage for $60 million. | |
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dreamfactory313 said: ehuffnsd said: because they invested some 35million dollars that they need to make back and he they have legal contracts that require it probably. Theyve already made it back, havent they? Alof of fans didnt even get refunds. They got commemorative tickets + they just sold the rehearsal footage for $60 million. i doubt it. they've lost revune for the dates that MJ was schedule and other events had to be scheduled outside of the O2 which is run by AEG [Edited 8/10/09 16:05pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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M- She ordered some movies and we (inaudible) with it ...she tried to (inaudible) the whole (inaudible)..... (quietly speaking almost whisper) and I let (her or it? ) even thought I shouldn't (inaudible) but after that it was everyday. The whole summer she became (inaudible) (one?) with (static) ..I love her very much .. (inaudible) she is too spoiled.. G- Oh my god...wow..amazingly (inaudible) found out on tour. M- I am also like a (inaudible) ..dual roles (inaudible) in ...not easy girl. Why (inaudible)this happen to me? Just when I (inaudible) it/she fits perfect in (inaudible) life and I stayed away but still this happens . Her /the family will never let it be.. so I better get use to it cause she (inaudible) has a couple of (inaudible) left. (sighs loud) Here what I think from Blurbs in between all the inaudible and noisy static parts which were so many with these juicy parts..ughh So I am just adding some words that probably should go in the inaudible parts. they were watching movies or tired of watching . she tried to (do something to him) the whole (time) he was watching. whispers ..I liked it but (can't hear this part) I let her (sounds like) (do it )(lol) even though I shouldn't give in but after that everyday. The whole summer she became (one with me ). (sounds like-- she is not satisfied).....she is spoiled. I am also like a (I think he says) father..she has a couple of months?? ( i think) left with me.. Ok here's the random stuff ( bits and pieces I could here between all static)..don't quote me on this..lol , I am "guessing" this is what he is saying... first something about not having sex but being creative. This is not a sentence..I just got the part "sex...not yet..creative" I think she wants to stay a virgin but still wants him. Then something about head ..(Glenda asks "WHAT" )..then he says it adamantly "oral sex you know" then she says something to the effect" ..well you have to be fair?? do it also (somewhere else in the noise) he says " first time i want to so bad" then somewhere else after a minute of noise "should be memorable" ( it sounds like to me ..he wants her to remain a virgin but maybe do other things instead..hence third base question.) He sounds like he really likes maybe loves this girl. He further says sporadically in between noise.."i'm scared" (3 minute pause)"disappointed" " I'm a perfectionist" (about 2 minutes pause) "hurts" (2 min pause) "innocent" "purity" "look into her eyes" ( 2 min pause)Glenda says "its fine" "just try" something about a "light bulb"?? and something about a "fish bowl"..i have no idea what he means about the light bulb and fish bowl!! They giggle a lot and she laughs really loud so drowns out what he is saying..but I think he is saying he is thinking about it or had it..cause I don't think he is asking Glenda about her sex life..heheh And then he goes on to say these random words "is third base consider sex" ( pause) "It pains me" ( 1 min pause)" she' gets stiff" " she cuddles after"( pause) " satisfied" ( min pause) "immature" " I really want to" ( pause)" it s like coffee??" ( pause)"don't buy until u try???lol" (again I don't know what the heck that means) lol I think these parts are toooo random to post in the 6-1 conversation plus I can't be 100% on these since I don't know what context he is discussing it in. | |
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somewhere unrelated to this i read someone makin fun of mj for talking in bases, that's hilarious | |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: Oh shit, Katherine's mad:
Jackson's mother objects to deals updated 1 hour, 22 minutes ago By Alan Duke CNN LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- The dispute between Michael Jackson's mother and the men Jackson chose to run his estate after his death threatens to delay or derail plans for a documentary of the pop singer's last days. Katherine Jackson has accused the executors of her son Michael's estate of "keeping her in the dark." Katherine Jackson's lawyers objected in court Monday to the deals made by the Michael Jackson estate's special administrators with concert promoter AEG Live and merchandising company Bravado. The lawyer for AEG Live, which promoted Jackson's shows in London, England, told Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff that the company has already made many concessions to the estate and could not make more. She suggested the company might walk away from the deals, which would include production of a documentary about Jackson's last months using Jackson rehearsal video. Howard Weitzman, a lawyer for the special administrators, told the judge the deals were "aggressively negotiated and reflect the exhaustion of all parties on give and take, and greatly benefit the estate." "I don't believe there is room for more negotiation," Weitzman said. Provisions of the agreements state that if Beckloff does not approve them by the end of Monday, the deals would be canceled and would have to be renegotiated. The judge has previously said he may approve them even if Katherine Jackson objects. The judge ordered a break in the hearing to allow the two sides to talk while he looked at Katherine Jackson's objection. He said he received her objection only minutes before the hearing began Monday morning. Beckloff on Friday approved a contract with Columbia Pictures, which had Katherine Jackson's blessing, but that deal depends on the other agreements also being approved by the judge. Jermaine Jackson, Michael Jackson's older brother, told CNN's Larry King last week that he likes the deals, which he said could bring in nearly $100 million into the Michael Jackson estate. Katherine Jackson and Jackson's three children are the main beneficiaries of the estate, which is controlled by Jackson's former lawyer, John Branca, and longtime Jackson friend and music executive John McClain. Katie don't like NONE a dis! Katie has been made for a while. MJ knew his family was incompetent and incapable of managing his business affairs, which is why he named two attorneys as executors of the estate. Katherine needs to chill out and allow them to start generating revenue for herself and the children. | |
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listen to this craziness
Billie Jean: I Want to Bond With Blanket Posted Aug 10th 2009 7:50PM by TMZ Staff Billie Jean Jackson is bound and determined to be a part of Blanket's life -- she just filed legal papers, begging the court to give her three days a week with Michael Jackson's youngest son. Billie Jean asks the court to grant her three wishes: 1) Hire a handwriting expert to check Michael's will for forgeries 2) Not to be arrested by Katherine Jackson or John Branca 3) Get to visit Blanket every Friday, Saturday and Sunday at 2 PM And there's this: "MICHAEL JACKSON IS GOD, and GOD cannot die, yet his ESTATE is in this probate court." Let that simmer for a bit. [Edited 8/10/09 17:35pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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Oh Jesus... | |
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Timmy84 said: Oh Jesus...
Make you want to holler , I can't wait till this stuff die down and this is coming from a mj fan | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Oh Jesus...
Make you want to holler , I can't wait till this stuff die down and this is coming from a mj fan Me too and all these suggestions that the reason the autopsy is not revealed yet because some fans are confident of murder charges is kinda redundant. Might as well say what killed him, they did leak sources and stuff. | |
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Glad to hear Michael is finally buried ... I just hope it was overseen by at least
one family member. Another thought I hope Debbie's visitation with the children are supervised,I just hope she doesn't ask the kids questions turn what ever the say in simple conversation around,then run to the courts to push for full custody. The judges decision is final but Katherine is going to be in the court room alot more with all of Michael's "friends" and strangers claiming to be the children's parent. | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: Make you want to holler , I can't wait till this stuff die down and this is coming from a mj fan Me too and all these suggestions that the reason the autopsy is not revealed yet because some fans are confident of murder charges is kinda redundant. Might as well say what killed him, they did leak sources and stuff. I don't look at it as murder but hmmm but yeah it's just too much release some old tours of his on DVD and let him rest in peace | |
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