oh my god, fuck you right in your earhole. seriously.

nurseV said:

I think Maxwell is inline to get the M.G. of our generation. He's got the elements, but takes them to a new place, and still maintains a note of the old school. R. Kelly.....not so much.

midiscover said:

Marvin is credited as one of the earliest pioneers of the concept album i.e What's Going On, Let's Get It On, I Want You, Here My Dear and so forth. Marvin was the real deal ... R Kelly is a good artist but has a long way to go before he can be considered "great"

haha comparing Rkelly with Marvin Gaye.
Rkelly is mediocrite rnb star,nothing special,MARVIN is true legend.
it's like comparing KANAYA WEST with Stevie Wonder.

midiscover said:

midiscover said:

All of his recent work has been "making me laugh"....its really tiring him trying to be young he forgot all the older fans who like him. These young people aint buying his records. The last good one he made was Chocolate Factory.

U Saved Me / happy People was ok, but the U Saved Me album was uneven and it didnt seem heartfelt ..maybe except for "Peace" and he was just coming off of the trial..it just seemed too much of a rush to get that off his back. Happy people was good too..but all the music sounded the same...after that....MEH to the rest.

paisleypark4 said:

Happy People and U Saved Me was pieced together for sure.

Loveland contained many of those songs.
01 “Spirit” (ended up on Happy People/U Saved Me)
02 “All I” (as yet unreleased, but sampled by Mannie Fresh on his 2004 track “Lady, Lady”)
03 “Leap of Faith” (ended up on Happy People/U Saved Me)
04 “Make Me” (ended up on Chocolate Factory under the name “You Knock Me Out”)
05 “Fly” (extended opera influenced version of “I Believe I Can Fly” as used on the TP-2 Tour)
06 “The World’s Greatest” (was already released on the Ali OST)
07 “(Step) In The Name Of Love” (ended up on Chocolate Factory in both original mix and remix, which was a No. 1 R&B hit)
08 “Love For Me” (renamed “Far More” and was available on the bonus Loveland CD with the first pressings of Chocolate Factory)
09 “Somethings Never Change” (as yet unreleased, a very 1970s Stevie Wonder-like track)
10 “Forever And Ever” (a.k.a. “Marry Me” - ended up on Chocolate Factory under the name “Forever”)
11 “You Bring Me Joy” (as yet unreleased, a soulful bedroom ballad)
12 “Make You My Baby” (track given to Joe and appeared on his 2003 album And Then…)
13 “Come to Daddy” (originally part of the BOBW tracklisting, unknown if this would have been on Loveland)
14 “Kiss You In Those Places” ( still unreleased, but appeared on original TP-3: Reloaded tracklisting, but not final album)
15 “More and More” (track given to Joe, was a single, and appeared on his 2003 album And Then…)

paisleypark4 said:

Ummm
this is why I think he's a musical genius

He can make music like this


for shits and giggles

and then do moving tracks like this

ernestsewell said:

nusouldownunder said:

I thought that was Curtis Mayfield I guess I freaked some of you'll out with this thread

Which only proves that the mainstream will never recognize his true potential if he keeps doing hip hop. His balladry is untouchable. A phenomenal range, can do just about every technique in singing and easily the best male R&B singer of our generation.

Oh well...

midiscover said:

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Maybe the mainstream has taste. Those ballads are pure sap and everbody knows it.

There's no such thing like the new Marvin Gaye!!!!

laurarichardson said:

I stopped reading after that

midiscover said:

I stopped reading after this considering you have
Gerald Levert(r.i.p)
Maxwell
Stokley


[Edited 7/30/09 11:19am]

phunkdaddy said:

Maxwell?
I don't know the other two but I'll check them out
but I still think he's the best from this generation.
[Edited 7/30/09 11:34am]

midiscover said:

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No, you should keep reading don't you think it is odd that R.Kelly has been around for over a decade and the masses have not cauagt on to his great talent
(LOL)

Could it be because he is such a hack and if you have not heard anything by Gerald Levert or Stockley you need to turn in your RnB card.

You have not even taken the time listento enough artist to crown this guy as the best.

Go back to school and learn something
[Edited 7/30/09 11:56am]

If R would come correct and bring some quality work, I'd support it

Not sure if I'd buy it but I'd support it lol

Justin Timberflake is the new James Brown..lol

InsatiableCream said:

double co-sign

phunkdaddy said:

Sgt Pepper was a concept album as well. So was John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band (1970), it's even called The Primal Scream album.

2freaky4church1 said:

I thought MJ was the new JB. and JT was the new MJ?

This thread is about their voices people, nothing else. But I don't get where you get the comparison from. They are quite different vocally

VenusBlingBling said:

I can see where they might compare the 2 on some songs, but no one in their right mind could possibly think that R. is as good or better than Marvin.

daPrettyman said:

So what are the similarities?

VenusBlingBling said:

Not so much similarities, but on certain songs, R. has really been influenced by Marvin in his delivery. Especially if you hear certain songs on "The Chocolate Factory" or "Happy People".

Marvin was his own voice, while R Kelly got started biting Aaron Hall.

Giovanni777 said:

indeed!

'dre

laurarichardson said:

Instead of making caddy remarks like "Go back to school and learn something" just respect my opinion and move on! and I'm sure people are fully aware of his talent. He's internationally known and as you may know has wrote countless hits.

Marvin may be the strongest influence for an entire genre of music, you might have heard of it... it's called Neo Soul. In addition, Marvin wasn't just great with the love songs. His ability to sing about deep cultural and political issues put him in a singular category.

I like plenty of his songs but ain't nothing about "the zoo" genius, that makes me crack up and be like WTF everytime.