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Reply #150 posted 10/28/08 5:31am

dseann

MuthaFunka said:

E News reported the boy had been shot several times. Unbelievable.

I'd love to have just 10 minutes in a room with this sick-ass muthafucka, and I'd beat him until he's a vegetable.


Ten minutes is too long. Just give me ten bullets for his two kneecaps and then leave the piece of meat alive for the courts. mad
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Reply #151 posted 10/28/08 9:24am

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Julia Hudson, sister of Jennifer Hudson, updated her myspace page. She spoke about the deaths of her mother Darnell Hudson, brother Jason Hudson, and only son Julian. And she says that loving a certain person may have cost her the beautiful family she had. Here’s a snippet:

LETS SEE IM 29 YEARS OLD I HAVE ONE CHILD AND I’M ALWAYS BORED, I LOVE TO HAVE FUN EVEN START A LITTLE S*** HERE AND THEIR i HAVE TWO YOUNGER SIBLINGS MY SISTER IS JENNIFER HUDSON YES THE JENNIFER HUDSON AND MY BROTHER IS JASON,I GUESS IT’S TIME TO UPDATE THIS WHEN I STARTED MY MYSPACE ALL OF THE ABOVE WAS TRUE , NOW BECAUSE I CHOSE TO DO WHAT WAS NATURAL TO ME AND LOVE SOMEONE , IT COST ME MY BEAUTIFUL FAMILY MY WONDERFUL BEAUTIFUL LOVING SUPPORTING MOTHER DARNELL, MY TRUE BLUE BABY BROTHER JASON , I LOVE U BIG BABY … AND LAST BUT NEVER NOT LEAST MY ONLY SON JULIAN , MY INNOCENT BABY ONE THAT WAS SHELTERED FROM ALL THE EVIL OIN THE WORLD BECAUSE WE LOVED HIM SO MUCH…



She also addresses the questions as to why she was updating her myspace page throughout this tragedy:

THAT WAS A WAY TO MAYBE HELP ME GET MY SON, MY BABY THE ONE I CARRIED UNDER MY HEART FOR 8 1/2 MONTHS THE SON IT TOOK ME 21 HOURS OF LABOR TO BRING HERE THE SON I GREW TO KNOW AND LOVE FOR JUST A FEW MONTHS OVER 7 YEARS THATS WHY …


She goes on to thank her loving friends for all that they did throughout these last few horrifying days. And she left her status as “numb”. There is still no update on William Balfour who has been in custody since Friday. William’s girlfriend, however, tells police he is indeed involved in the slayings. And it seems as though Julia is speaking about him when she talks about loving someone who could have cost her family. So sad.
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Reply #152 posted 10/28/08 9:28am

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Academy Award-winning singer and actress Jennifer Hudson stood again in the Cook County medical examiner's office, clutching the hands of loved ones as they identified the body of yet another slain relative -- her 7-year-old nephew, Julian King.

Even before family members arrived at the morgue Monday, they had been told that the three-day search for the 2nd grader had ended when his body was found slumped in the back seat of a sport-utility vehicle parked on a West Side street.

Amid visibly shaken family members in the medical examiner's office, Hudson bowed her head as if in prayer, then looked up.

"Yes, that's him," she told medical examiner officials as the family stood with her in an adjoining room and looked at a video monitor showing the boy's face.


The toll was inescapable: Hudson had lost her mother, her brother and now her nephew to a murderous rampage.

Even as the family gathered to answer one painful question, police searched the Chevrolet Suburban to answer others.

Officers questioned William Balfour, 27, the estranged husband of Julian's mother, on Friday night, but he stopped talking when police suggested he take a polygraph test, law-enforcement sources said. Balfour has not been charged in the slayings.

Although the sources say Balfour remains the focus of the investigation, the motive remains murky. Police say there have been ongoing disputes between him and his estranged wife, Julia Hudson, and her family.

Hudson's mother and brother had thrown him out of their Englewood house in the past, sources said. Julia Hudson also told police that Balfour had threatened the family. A source said Balfour told Julia Hudson he would kill her if he found out she had a boyfriend, despite the fact that he had other girlfriends.

In another incident, sources said, Julia Hudson arrived Friday morning at Sunrise Bus Co. on payday and discovered her wages had been garnished because of unpaid car payments. Sources said Balfour had taken her car months earlier but promised to make the payments on the vehicle. After seeing her pay stub, Julia Hudson called Balfour to complain about the unpaid bills, sources said.

Police believe that Balfour went to the Hudson family home Friday and shot through the front door, striking Hudson's brother, Jason. Hudson's mother, Darnell Donerson, came into the living room, screaming, and Balfour shot her as well, sources said. Shell casings were also found in the child's room, but there were no bullet holes or other signs of violence there. Much of the account of what police believe happened that day came from an interview with a girlfriend of Balfour's, sources said.

The sources also said Balfour's girlfriend contradicted his alibi and told police that he was involved in the slayings.


Police have not ruled out the possibility that more than one person was involved, though Supt. Jody Weis said Monday that Balfour was currently their only "person of interest."

On Sunday morning, officials transferred Balfour to Stateville Correctional Center, saying that because he was a suspect in the slayings, he violated conditions of parole for a 1999 conviction for attempted murder.

Over the weekend, the city scoured the area near the first shooting scene and a grid east of where the boy eventually was found. Officers and volunteers taped missing-person posters up in area shops, and vigils were held in Englewood.

But Julian was found Monday morning on the West Side after a tiny dog named Li'l Man howled and barked at an unfamiliar white SUV parked in the 1300 block of South Kolin Avenue.

The Chihuahua's reaction drew the attention of his owner, John Louden. The SUV matched the description of one police had sought in the killings since Friday. It remains unclear if police had canvassed the block, but some neighbors say they had seen the SUV since Friday. But no one called police before Monday.

Louden, 75, went inside and told his wife, Lynnette. Neighbors said the pace of drug dealing nearby often brought strange cars to the block. But when the Loudens saw the Suburban's license-plate number appear on television, Lynnette Louden called 911.

"The first thing I thought was," she said, " 'Lord, don't let the baby be in there.' "

But he was.

Julian was found slumped over in the back seat of the Suburban, shot in the head. A bullet was found lodged in the vehicle, leading detectives to believe he had been shot in the vehicle. Police don't know precisely when he was killed, saying they are waiting for more information from the medical examiner's office. Police are hoping to find physical evidence at the two crime scenes that breaks the case.

A prayer service was held for the three slain family members in Pleasant Gift Missionary Baptist Church, where one of Hudson's cousins is a minister.

And on the block where the shootings happened near 70th Street and Yale Avenue, about 100 friends and strangers gathered for a candlelight vigil of song and prayer Monday evening.

Surrounded by stuffed animals, balloons and posters that had grown throughout the day, the crowd sang Jennifer Hudson's song "Spotlight."

On behalf of the Hudson family, the Pleasant Gift Missionary Baptist Church announced establishment of the Hudson-King Domestic Violence Prevention Fund, c/o Seaway Bank and Trust Co., P.O. Box 19522, Chicago, Ill., 60619.
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Reply #153 posted 10/28/08 9:37am

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Just sick sick sick and I hate the fact that I’m so interested in this case but I can’t get it off my mind.

So a Chihuahua spotted the car first.

Jennifer’s brother was shot first but was found in the bedroom. If he didn’t die instantly I wonder what he was going into the bedroom for.

I know Balfour’s mother was saying that he couldn’t have done this (like mother’s always do even if their child is point blank guilty) but she also said something that sounded like the Hudson family was shady or that there was ongoing drama between the two and she didn’t like them. That made me think once again something was Balfour was up even tho he was no longer considered a suspect.

I can’t imagine having to identify a deceased loved one. Continued strength for Jennifer and her family to get through this.
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Reply #154 posted 10/28/08 10:02am

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Julia Hudson, sister of Jennifer Hudson, updated her myspace page. She spoke about the deaths of her mother Darnell Hudson, brother Jason Hudson, and only son Julian. And she says that loving a certain person may have cost her the beautiful family she had. Here’s a snippet:

LETS SEE IM 29 YEARS OLD I HAVE ONE CHILD AND I’M ALWAYS BORED, I LOVE TO HAVE FUN EVEN START A LITTLE S*** HERE AND THEIR i HAVE TWO YOUNGER SIBLINGS MY SISTER IS JENNIFER HUDSON YES THE JENNIFER HUDSON AND MY BROTHER IS JASON,I GUESS IT’S TIME TO UPDATE THIS WHEN I STARTED MY MYSPACE ALL OF THE ABOVE WAS TRUE , NOW BECAUSE I CHOSE TO DO WHAT WAS NATURAL TO ME AND LOVE SOMEONE , [b]IT COST ME MY BEAUTIFUL FAMILY MY WONDERFUL BEAUTIFUL LOVING SUPPORTING MOTHER DARNELL, MY TRUE BLUE BABY BROTHER JASON , I LOVE U BIG BABY … AND LAST BUT NEVER NOT LEAST MY ONLY SON JULIAN , MY INNOCENT BABY ONE THAT WAS SHELTERED FROM ALL THE EVIL OIN THE WORLD BECAUSE WE LOVED HIM SO MUCH…[/b]



She also addresses the questions as to why she was updating her myspace page throughout this tragedy:
THAT WAS A WAY TO MAYBE HELP ME GET MY SON, MY BABY THE ONE I CARRIED UNDER MY HEART FOR 8 1/2 MONTHS THE SON IT TOOK ME 21 HOURS OF LABOR TO BRING HERE THE SON I GREW TO KNOW AND LOVE FOR JUST A FEW MONTHS OVER 7 YEARS THATS WHY …


She goes on to thank her loving friends for all that they did throughout these last few horrifying days. And she left her status as “numb”. There is still no update on William Balfour who has been in custody since Friday. William’s girlfriend, however, tells police he is indeed involved in the slayings. And it seems as though Julia is speaking about him when she talks about loving someone who could have cost her family. So sad.


sigh Only God can take that kind of guilt away from her.
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Reply #155 posted 10/28/08 10:07am

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dseann said:

MuthaFunka said:

E News reported the boy had been shot several times. Unbelievable.

I'd love to have just 10 minutes in a room with this sick-ass muthafucka, and I'd beat him until he's a vegetable.


Ten minutes is too long. Just give me ten bullets for his two kneecaps and then leave the piece of meat alive for the courts. mad


I can dig that, too.
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Reply #156 posted 10/28/08 10:12am

shesoffthewall

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Surrounded by stuffed animals, balloons and posters that had grown throughout the day, the crowd sang Jennifer Hudson's song "Spotlight."



No to sound mean but they need to be singing "Precious Lord, Take My Hand." confused
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Reply #157 posted 10/28/08 10:16am

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WTF

So this was something personal, right? Im not trying to bring any negativity to this, but what type of neighborhood was this? I'm suprised Jennifer didnt move her family to some upscale area...not that this couldn't happen anywhere, im just saying...

My hearts and prayers go out to JH....

My thoughts and prayers go out to The Hudson Family. I can't understand for the life of me why Jennifer Hudson would not have moved her mother from this neighborhood. The neighbors say it is common to hear gun shots. I've also heard that her mother did not want to move from the neighborhood....I find that hard to believe for a 57 year old woman that is hearing gunshots on a regular basis. All black entertainers I can think of that rose to fame, first thing they did was move their parents up out of the ghetto. They were even part of their management team. Perfect example Keyshia Cole....we all know the story. I am know trying to be negative but as I take a deep breath from this whole situation I can't help but to ask why....afterall she said her mother was behind her making it. I really believe she rose to fame and left her family behind....you've rarely seen her mother with her in the spotlight. Time will tell all. I think this new fiancee btw is using her similar to they way Howard Stern used Anna Nicole Smith. He is after her success. This is indeed a sad story but it is not looking good in the eyes of Hollywood. The media has already begun to build this up as to "why" she didn't relocate her mother. Fantasia even moved her mother as soon as she made it. Some will say you can't force her to move...then why didn't she have the house more secure like gated...that way none of u would see a giant barbeque pit in the front yard....all ghettofied. I hope I didn't offend anyone but this hurts.

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WTF? I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Jennifer didn't leave her family behind! You can look at the photos on all of their myspace pages and tell that this was a very close-knit family. If you didn't see her mom much is because Jennifer has said in interviews repeatedly that her mom didn't want to be in the spotlight. Her mother said she doesn't even tell people that J.Hud is her daughter. This is an average family, some people don't become "Hollywood" over night if you've lived a certain life for years. Her mom owned that home for nearly 2 decades. She didn't want to move.
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memories mar my mind
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Reply #158 posted 10/28/08 10:16am

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Not trying to be picky but they really need to stop reporting information from these "sources". Before a creditor can garnish your wages, you have to be sued and they have to win a judgment against you. If you don't show up to court, then a default judgment is issued. Lawsuits don't normally happen after a few missed payments. Plus, you have to be notified before your wages are garnished.

Was Balfour employed? Probably not considering he had a felony record. So if he did not have job, how could he be trusted with making car payments.

Unfortunately, the Hudson's family business is about to be aired as more information comes out. It's not going to be pretty.
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Reply #159 posted 10/28/08 10:22am

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Scorpion said:

4bjb said:




WTF? I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Jennifer didn't leave her family behind! You can look at the photos on all of their myspace pages and tell that this was a very close-knit family. If you didn't see her mom much is because Jennifer has said in interviews repeatedly that her mom didn't want to be in the spotlight. Her mother said she doesn't even tell people that J.Hud is her daughter. This is an average family, some people don't become "Hollywood" over night if you've lived a certain life for years. Her mom owned that home for nearly 2 decades. She didn't want to move.



That's crazy... It was already reported that she offered to buy her Mother a new home and her Mother refused to move
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Reply #160 posted 10/28/08 10:56am

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Parents in general often don’t want to leave the community and environment that they’re familiar with. And imagine having to up and leave possibly the only area you’ve known or the place you’ve called home for the last 20 or 30 years.
The problem with that is I think it possibly makes the parent a target and could also endanger the celebrity. If people find out that you’re the mother or father of a celebrity all sorts of ideas run through the crazy minds of some people (like kidnapping) not to mention those waiting for you to come home and visit.

Quentin Richardson lost his second brother to robbery shooting when thiefs waited for he and his father to come home where they lived (south side of Chicago). They knew his brother kept equipment in the house. Maybe they didn’t know he was Quentin’s brother but they probably did since the family lived there for years.

If I lived in a bad area and I could get out, I’m gone. I don’t think my mother would have a choice in the matter either especially if she lived in the way these places are described and if she wanted me to still come and visit. And there will be no adult siblings or siblings who are involved in shady activity or dealing with shady people living with her. You’re grown, get your own.

You've got every day people who won't even date guys/girls that live in bad areas because they don't want to have to visit you. Cold but true. There's nothing like feeling a bullet whiz past your head to motivate you to pack your bags and hit the road.
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Reply #161 posted 10/28/08 10:57am

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Scorpion said:

4bjb said:




WTF? I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Jennifer didn't leave her family behind! You can look at the photos on all of their myspace pages and tell that this was a very close-knit family. If you didn't see her mom much is because Jennifer has said in interviews repeatedly that her mom didn't want to be in the spotlight. Her mother said she doesn't even tell people that J.Hud is her daughter. This is an average family, some people don't become "Hollywood" over night if you've lived a certain life for years. Her mom owned that home for nearly 2 decades. She didn't want to move.


It is ridiculous. That woman loves her family. Jennifer was on that Barbara Walter's special "10 Most Fascinating" and all she did was talk about her family, her mother and sister especially. She said that they keep her humble and are real to her. From my experience of watching Jennifer in interviews, she doesn't come off as affected by Hollywood. She's very down to earth and almost doesn't even really stand out, except for her singing voice. She's almost boring in interviews, but she's just real and no frills about her.
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Reply #162 posted 10/28/08 11:23am

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PurpleCharm said:

Not trying to be picky but they really need to stop reporting information from these "sources". Before a creditor can garnish your wages, you have to be sued and they have to win a judgment against you. If you don't show up to court, then a default judgment is issued. Lawsuits don't normally happen after a few missed payments. Plus, you have to be notified before your wages are garnished.
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In Illinois ... if your credit is 'shaky' you are often asked to sign a 'Wage Assignment'. This often applies to car loans, personal loans, furniture loans and payday advance loans. The line to get you to get credit this way is... "Bad credit..? No problem. Your job is your credit."

This document is a binding agreement that allows creditors the right to bypass all the hassle associated with standard judgements... and garnish your wages. They can often do this after even one missed payment. But usually will wait until after a few. And since you signed the agreement in advance... there is no additional notification required... they already told you what would happen. If payment isn't met... just look for the money to be taken from your check.

And yeah... I have practical experience with these arrangements.
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Reply #163 posted 10/28/08 11:36am

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JackieBlue said:

Parents in general often don’t want to leave the community and environment that they’re familiar with. And imagine having to up and leave possibly the only area you’ve known or the place you’ve called home for the last 20 or 30 years.
The problem with that is I think it possibly makes the parent a target and could also endanger the celebrity. If people find out that you’re the mother or father of a celebrity all sorts of ideas run through the crazy minds of some people (like kidnapping) not to mention those waiting for you to come home and visit.

Quentin Richardson lost his second brother to robbery shooting when thiefs waited for he and his father to come home where they lived (south side of Chicago). They knew his brother kept equipment in the house. Maybe they didn’t know he was Quentin’s brother but they probably did since the family lived there for years.

If I lived in a bad area and I could get out, I’m gone. I don’t think my mother would have a choice in the matter either especially if she lived in the way these places are described and if she wanted me to still come and visit. And there will be no adult siblings or siblings who are involved in shady activity or dealing with shady people living with her. You’re grown, get your own.

You've got every day people who won't even date guys/girls that live in bad areas because they don't want to have to visit you. Cold but true. There's nothing like feeling a bullet whiz past your head to motivate you to pack your bags and hit the road.
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True some of the neighborhoods described are bad... but lets put it in perspective. Its usually worst to those who don't live there. Those who live there are often comfortable. You have block clubs and community activist in many of these areas. Crime occurs every where.... in affluent areas as well as poor ones. the nature of the crimes may be different... but crime is crime none the less.

Urban life is what it is. This situation reminds me of a movie... 'The Lost Boys' The only way the vampires could get into your house was if you invited them in.

That is at the core of the real problem. You can take a person from the ghetto... but you seldom take the ghetto out of the person. Look at how many celebs and athletes with all thier millions move from their 'ghetto'... but still can't stop the ghetto life style ..and often one way or another pay the price.
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Reply #164 posted 10/28/08 11:41am

PurpleCharm

BigDaddyHQ said:

PurpleCharm said:

Not trying to be picky but they really need to stop reporting information from these "sources". Before a creditor can garnish your wages, you have to be sued and they have to win a judgment against you. If you don't show up to court, then a default judgment is issued. Lawsuits don't normally happen after a few missed payments. Plus, you have to be notified before your wages are garnished.
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In Illinois ... if your credit is 'shaky' you are often asked to sign a 'Wage Assignment'. This often applies to car loans, personal loans, furniture loans and payday advance loans. The line to get you to get credit this way is... "Bad credit..? No problem. Your job is your credit."

This document is a binding agreement that allows creditors the right to bypass all the hassle associated with standard judgements... and garnish your wages. They can often do this after even one missed payment. But usually will wait until after a few. And since you signed the agreement in advance... there is no additional notification required... they already told you what would happen. If payment isn't met... just look for the money to be taken from your check.

And yeah... I have practical experience with these arrangements.


Thanks for the info. I thought only the feds/state government could garish without a judgment.

**Marks Illinois off the list of states to move to.**
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Reply #165 posted 10/28/08 12:01pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

JackieBlue said:

Parents in general often don’t want to leave the community and environment that they’re familiar with. And imagine having to up and leave possibly the only area you’ve known or the place you’ve called home for the last 20 or 30 years.
The problem with that is I think it possibly makes the parent a target and could also endanger the celebrity. If people find out that you’re the mother or father of a celebrity all sorts of ideas run through the crazy minds of some people (like kidnapping) not to mention those waiting for you to come home and visit.

Quentin Richardson lost his second brother to robbery shooting when thiefs waited for he and his father to come home where they lived (south side of Chicago). They knew his brother kept equipment in the house. Maybe they didn’t know he was Quentin’s brother but they probably did since the family lived there for years.

If I lived in a bad area and I could get out, I’m gone. I don’t think my mother would have a choice in the matter either especially if she lived in the way these places are described and if she wanted me to still come and visit. And there will be no adult siblings or siblings who are involved in shady activity or dealing with shady people living with her. You’re grown, get your own.

You've got every day people who won't even date guys/girls that live in bad areas because they don't want to have to visit you. Cold but true. There's nothing like feeling a bullet whiz past your head to motivate you to pack your bags and hit the road.
[Edited 10/28/08 10:58am]



True some of the neighborhoods described are bad... but lets put it in perspective. Its usually worst to those who don't live there. Those who live there are often comfortable. You have block clubs and community activist in many of these areas. Crime occurs every where.... in affluent areas as well as poor ones. the nature of the crimes may be different... but crime is crime none the less.

Urban life is what it is. This situation reminds me of a movie... 'The Lost Boys' The only way the vampires could get into your house was if you invited them in.

That is at the core of the real problem. You can take a person from the ghetto... but you seldom take the ghetto out of the person. Look at how many celebs and athletes with all thier millions move from their 'ghetto'... but still can't stop the ghetto life style ..and often one way or another pay the price.


I agree ... I grew up in one of the worst projects in Brooklyn and i felt quite safe and at home there,But once we left that area, Shit you can't pay me to go back there now
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Reply #166 posted 10/28/08 12:09pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

JackieBlue said:

Parents in general often don’t want to leave the community and environment that they’re familiar with. And imagine having to up and leave possibly the only area you’ve known or the place you’ve called home for the last 20 or 30 years.
The problem with that is I think it possibly makes the parent a target and could also endanger the celebrity. If people find out that you’re the mother or father of a celebrity all sorts of ideas run through the crazy minds of some people (like kidnapping) not to mention those waiting for you to come home and visit.

Quentin Richardson lost his second brother to robbery shooting when thiefs waited for he and his father to come home where they lived (south side of Chicago). They knew his brother kept equipment in the house. Maybe they didn’t know he was Quentin’s brother but they probably did since the family lived there for years.

If I lived in a bad area and I could get out, I’m gone. I don’t think my mother would have a choice in the matter either especially if she lived in the way these places are described and if she wanted me to still come and visit. And there will be no adult siblings or siblings who are involved in shady activity or dealing with shady people living with her. You’re grown, get your own.

You've got every day people who won't even date guys/girls that live in bad areas because they don't want to have to visit you. Cold but true. There's nothing like feeling a bullet whiz past your head to motivate you to pack your bags and hit the road.
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True some of the neighborhoods described are bad... but lets put it in perspective. Its usually worst to those who don't live there. Those who live there are often comfortable. You have block clubs and community activist in many of these areas. Crime occurs every where.... in affluent areas as well as poor ones. the nature of the crimes may be different... but crime is crime none the less.

Urban life is what it is. This situation reminds me of a movie... 'The Lost Boys' The only way the vampires could get into your house was if you invited them in.

That is at the core of the real problem. You can take a person from the ghetto... but you seldom take the ghetto out of the person. Look at how many celebs and athletes with all thier millions move from their 'ghetto'... but still can't stop the ghetto life style ..and often one way or another pay the price.


Yes, I agree crime is everywhere and of course tragedies can happen anywhere. I think the idea of not being able to take the ghetto out of people is true. Why is it that there are guys who never have an altercation or an arrest their entire pro-career and then there are athletes that seemingly can’t stay out of trouble. Getting shot is almost some sort of rite of passage or having a bullet scar, the equivalent of a new tattoo. Maybe some of the people are comfortable because they don’t know any better. There is an oppressive energy in these areas and that’s not to say that good things and good people can’t come out of such environments but I believe many dreams and lives die prematurely because of it.
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Reply #167 posted 10/28/08 6:20pm

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her sister has a lot of pics on myspace
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Reply #168 posted 10/28/08 6:35pm

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still can't believe this incident and when i see pictures of little Julian, it's sad.

and my friend just told me last night that their next door neighbor was a victim of a home invasion on Sunday. that immediately made me think of this incident.

it's scary, it could happen to anyone.
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Reply #169 posted 10/28/08 8:07pm

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Suspect Had June Arrest
October 28, 2008
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The convicted felon suspected in the Chicago slayings of Oscar-winner Jennifer Hudson's mother, brother and nephew was arrested on a drug charge in June, but authorities declined to return him to prison on a parole violation, internal parole records show.

Corrections Department spokesman Derek Schnapp said officials who reviewed the cocaine-possession case against William Balfour determined "the evidence that was presented during that time wouldn't have necessarily warranted a violation."

A judge dismissed the charge for lack of probable cause in July, but under the strict rules of the state's parole program, Balfour could have gone back to prison just for the arrest.

No one has been charged in the shooting deaths of Hudson's mother, 57-year-old Darnell Donerson, her brother, 29-year-old Jason Hudson, and 7-year-old nephew Julian King.

The older victims were found in the family's home Friday afternoon. Julian's body was found in the back of an SUV on Chicago's West Side on Monday; authorities declared his death a homicide Tuesday.

Around the time the first bodies were found, Balfour's parole agent had reached him by phone after Balfour missed a meeting with him that day. Balfour told the agent he was "baby-sitting on the West Side of Chicago," according to the documents, obtained by The Associated Press.

The agent said he thought he heard a child in the background during the call. Balfour was taken into custody later Friday.

Balfour, Julian's stepfather and the estranged husband of Hudson's sister, served seven years for attempted murder and vehicular hijacking.

The Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for Balfour on Saturday for violating terms of his parole by possessing a weapon and failing to attend anger management counseling and a substance abuse program, according to his parole history report.

The records indicate a parole supervisor declined to issue a warrant to revoke Balfour's parole after Chicago police arrested him June 19 for possession of cocaine.

"Per supervisor ... no warrant," the report reads. "Agent to monitor offender, impose sanctions."

Criminal charges can send parolees back to prison and keep them there even if the counts are ultimately dropped.

A board that reviews such cases after parolees are sent back to prison relies on a preponderance of the evidence, a lower standard than in court.

The board considers the violence of the original crime, the parole agent's recommendation, the arrest report, the parolee's adjustment and his attitude during a follow-up interview in prison, among other things.

In Balfour's case, a violation could have sent him back behind bars for a period as long as the remainder of his parole — until May 2009 — minus a day off for each day of good behavior. That would have meant a release date in mid-December at the earliest.

The parole history report on Balfour also shows that a woman at Balfour's home refused to open the door during an agent's visit on Aug. 27. The woman told the agent during the 8:30 a.m. visit that Balfour was at work but Balfour's boss told the agent he wasn't due until noon.

"Agent heard other people inside the host site and suspected maybe suspicious activities going on," the report said. "Agent will be following up for a possible warrant on parolee."

There's no warrant mentioned in following days on the report, which does note, however, that Balfour passed a drug test.

Schnapp, the corrections spokesman, said the evidence again wasn't sufficient to warrant revoking parole.
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Reply #170 posted 10/28/08 8:59pm

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I said in the other thread I thought Jennifer may have introduced Julia to her husband, but I read today that he reconnected with Julia when he got out of prison. He went to elementary school with the Hudsons. I also read they were wary of him
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Reply #171 posted 10/28/08 9:30pm

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William was probably writing Julia that prison poetry when he was locked up.

Men in prison write some of the most romantic letters when there are trying to secure a place to lay their head when they get out, want visitors or need money for commisary.
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Reply #172 posted 10/28/08 9:54pm

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PurpleCharm said:

William was probably writing Julia that prison poetry when he was locked up.

Men in prison write some of the most romantic letters when there are trying to secure a place to lay their head when they get out, want visitors or need money for commisary.

He got out in May 2006. She married him that December
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Reply #173 posted 10/29/08 12:12am

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This is an awful trajedy, I cannot understand how anyone can take anothers life with such calculated cruelty. My heart breaks for Jennifer, she needs to pray for strength, only with Gods help she can make it through and still have hope for the future.

My heart goes out to their whole family. What a terrible loss. Appreciate your life, your family and the blessing of each day and remember to give thanks to the one who created all things and who loves us the most in the whole universe!!

Peace and love
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Reply #174 posted 10/29/08 3:40am

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LiquidGold said:

PurpleCharm said:

William was probably writing Julia that prison poetry when he was locked up.

Men in prison write some of the most romantic letters when there are trying to secure a place to lay their head when they get out, want visitors or need money for commisary.

He got out in May 2006. She married him that December

Ok???
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Reply #175 posted 10/29/08 6:17am

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LiquidGold said:

PurpleCharm said:

William was probably writing Julia that prison poetry when he was locked up.

Men in prison write some of the most romantic letters when there are trying to secure a place to lay their head when they get out, want visitors or need money for commisary.

He got out in May 2006. She married him that December


I guess some poetry and good d*ck (her admitted weakness) can cloud a woman’s judgment a bit. sad
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Reply #176 posted 10/29/08 6:27am

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let's get real for a second. julia she has some serious fucked up issues. i saw her myspace again and it has a new picture of herself dressed up. why? her family has just died. shes there accepting friend's requests, theres no tribute for her son. only jennifer has a pic up of her nephew. her crazy survey answers are still there, her space is still not set to private. the "suspect" is still in her top friends list, shes still mrs flex and hes mr. flex as they put it, she hardly changed anything...i can't understand that. i wouldnt even be on the internet if i lost my mother, brother and son. for real.
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Reply #177 posted 10/29/08 7:09am

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NMusiqNSoul said:

let's get real for a second. julia she has some serious fucked up issues. i saw her myspace again and it has a new picture of herself dressed up. why? her family has just died. shes there accepting friend's requests, theres no tribute for her son. only jennifer has a pic up of her nephew. her crazy survey answers are still there, her space is still not set to private. the "suspect" is still in her top friends list, shes still mrs flex and hes mr. flex as they put it, she hardly changed anything...i can't understand that. i wouldnt even be on the internet if i lost my mother, brother and son. for real.


That's how you would react... People deal with grief in diffrent ways, maybe the internet helps keep her mind off of what's going around her.. I'm not about to sit in judgement of anybody who's going through something that i hope to never experience
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Reply #178 posted 10/29/08 8:16am

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banks said:

NMusiqNSoul said:

let's get real for a second. julia she has some serious fucked up issues. i saw her myspace again and it has a new picture of herself dressed up. why? her family has just died. shes there accepting friend's requests, theres no tribute for her son. only jennifer has a pic up of her nephew. her crazy survey answers are still there, her space is still not set to private. the "suspect" is still in her top friends list, shes still mrs flex and hes mr. flex as they put it, she hardly changed anything...i can't understand that. i wouldnt even be on the internet if i lost my mother, brother and son. for real.


That's how you would react... People deal with grief in diffrent ways, maybe the internet helps keep her mind off of what's going around her.. I'm not about to sit in judgement of anybody who's going through something that i hope to never experience


Yeah, that's why I said I wouldn't. I'm saying she seems to be carrying on herself the same way as before the killings, what kinda sense does it make to keep the assumed killer of your son, brother and mother in your friends list? What sense does it make to state about her son while he's alive well his ass is here ain't it. That survey has been up there for a while. You tell me. Better yet she too feels it's him who is involved. I usually stay on the sideslines man but with this, that's just some weird shit. I think she loves all the attention she's getting and that is some sad shit. RIP to them and what a tragedy.
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Reply #179 posted 10/29/08 9:12am

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NMusiqNSoul said:

let's get real for a second. julia she has some serious fucked up issues. i saw her myspace again and it has a new picture of herself dressed up. why? her family has just died. shes there accepting friend's requests, theres no tribute for her son. only jennifer has a pic up of her nephew. her crazy survey answers are still there, her space is still not set to private. the "suspect" is still in her top friends list, shes still mrs flex and hes mr. flex as they put it, she hardly changed anything...i can't understand that. i wouldnt even be on the internet if i lost my mother, brother and son. for real.


I think the new picture is that of her mother, I'm not sure though. I feel ya on everything else. She has pictures of guns on her page with the caption "Mrs. Flex" and has the "suspect" still on her friends list as "Mr. Flex." Just weird that it seems she's living her life through myspace. She's probably never received so many hits on her page until now and is just loving it.

Quotes from her survery on her myspace page:

What was the last thing you did with 7?: TALKED SHIT BOUT MY EX

Do you know 4’s parents?: I SHOULD HOPE SINCE THE SAME PU**Y SET US FREE

Want to have kids?: WHETER I WANTED TO OR NOT HIS ASS IS HERE

If she has any dignity, she would set her page to private.
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