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Reply #30 posted 07/22/08 3:55pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


hug !!!!!


Timing! wink
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Reply #31 posted 07/22/08 4:02pm

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Moonbeam said:

I was very fortunate to grow up in a financially secure household brimming with love. I never had to face many of the hardships that so many people do. This led me to become a bit sheltered in my viewpoints and beliefs, and my idealism ran wild.


SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

In my 20's I was very idealistic and optimistic to a fault. Age has a way of jading you and stealing your dreams. Sometimes I have to struggle to find that place, but when I listen to music the way that you do, I am brought back to my sunshine each and every time.


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Reply #32 posted 07/22/08 4:02pm

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Sander said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


hug !!!!!


Timing! wink

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Reply #33 posted 07/22/08 4:32pm

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"Age Of Consent" was a song you put me on to and I love it, so immediately that one is the jump-off!

I was very moved by your writing, not only your experiences (touched hug) but the way you describe the energy that a sonic landscape provides.
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Reply #34 posted 07/22/08 4:34pm

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Cinnie said:

"Age Of Consent" was a song you put me on to and I love it, so immediately that one is the jump-off!

I was very moved by your writing, not only your experiences (touched hug) but the way you describe the energy that a sonic landscape provides.

it would have been a travesty if neither of you made the list! shake
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Reply #35 posted 07/22/08 5:09pm

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Sander said:

Moonbeam said:

I was very fortunate to grow up in a financially secure household brimming with love. I never had to face many of the hardships that so many people do. This led me to become a bit sheltered in my viewpoints and beliefs, and my idealism ran wild.


SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

In my 20's I was very idealistic and optimistic to a fault. Age has a way of jading you and stealing your dreams. Sometimes I have to struggle to find that place, but when I listen to music the way that you do, I am brought back to my sunshine each and every time.


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well it's age and experiences actually. You could grow old and sheltered and still be ideal lol It's dealing with the travails of life. the longer you live, the more of them there are nod
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Reply #36 posted 07/22/08 6:48pm

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This could have been the soundtrack to my high school crush! love The first part of this, at least, reminds me of my very first love. His name was Mark Bray and I was just lovesick over him. sad Of course nothing ever happened because he was straight and I was gay but I will never forget when I found out I had him in my accounting class.

We were on opposite sides of the room but even still I was elated. The teacher offered everyone a chance to pick their own seats and there was a mad rush for people to sit next to their friends and she finally asked if everyone was satisfied with the seating, there were basically no complaints. So she started counting and assigning people seating by numbers and of course, she turned the whole seating arrangement upside down so friends didn't sit next to friends. lol Well my number landed me at the same 2 chaired desk as my crush!!! touched

The first 4 songs weren't those you'd hear in the neighborhood I grew up in but it was during high school that I was exposed to what I call "white music". Before anyone gets in a snit, all I'm saying is that the mexican gang bangers in my neighborhood weren't listening to this stuff but the white kids from the rich part of town were. Anyway, the first part of your mix brought back memories of the life I never lived and the first boy I ever loved mushy

I liked what you said about "computer love" nod Of course, the part about beautiful Diva, but especially the part about people who discredit and minimize music that is electronic in nature. I really agree with that and feel it is as valid an expression of music especially since there are some things that are beyond the human reach organically and electronics open up a totally different frontier. It's like the difference between the sky and the oceans. Each are very different but they are both worlds in which creatures live and thrive in equal abundance nod

I revere your thoughts on "My Body is a Cage". I know how deeply affected your family was/is over your father's passing. I only wish I could have given your family the comfort that your family gave me when my cousin was killed. This part of your mix made me cry.

I also liked the way you spoke about this forum and how it really engenders a musical community outside Prince's music unlike any forum that any of us have found. Because of the relationships formed within this forum, and especially through exercises like the one we are currently engaged in, I bought Anniemal blind because you recommended it biggrin LOVE that you were able to connect to her music and later connect to her personally. I got to do that with one of my Musical heroes last year and it is truly remarkable to be able to touch someone who has touched you without even knowing they did mushy

My vote for Favorite song is "Demon Days". It sounds so epic. I've only heard a few of their tracks and this is not what I expected. AT. ALL! I am buying this album immediately biggrin I have a mix titled "Sunshine" where the focus is to keep together, keep strong, never stop believing, welcome the warmth and care of the proverbial sun. I really really relate to your optimistic sense of self. In my 20's I was very idealistic and optimistic to a fault. Age has a way of jading you and stealing your dreams. Sometimes I have to struggle to find that place, but when I listen to music the way that you do, I am brought back to my sunshine each and every time. Music keeps my dreams and my soul alive and I am so happy you got to participate in this because it reminds us all not to ever give up….. clapping

I think this mix is extrememly balanced musically and again, full of stuff I'm not really familiar with. I love that the mixes so far have been so different. Loved your mix incredibly nod

hug !!!!!

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Thanks for your comments! I have my own stories (somewhat horrific) about sharing a two-person desk with my crush, but we won't go there! lol

Great description of the coexistence of both organic and electronic music. There's room enough for both!

"My Body Is a Cage" really fucks me up sometimes! The line "though my language is dead still the shapes fill my head" really gets me, because although my Dad was unable to communicate, there still was evidence that he had brain activity.

I'm glad you are digging "Demon Days"! Making my comp has made me pull out the album again and discover how amazing it is. It really is impossible to categorize- just when you think a song is rock, in comes a rap and then it is adorned by a gorgeous string section, harmonium or a choir. The way the album progresses really reminds me of a classic dystopic horror movie, and it really balances the line well between the realm of what is possible and what is fantasy. Everything sounds like a metaphor for the real-life horrors we are facing, with themes of juvenile violence, military insurrection, capitalism gone wild, cultural numbness and class stratification throughout. Like all good horror, it utilizes the power of suggestion and builds up palpable suspense instead of employing cheap thrills.
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Reply #37 posted 07/22/08 7:01pm

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Got an hour, have a drink, listen, org and review! Good times!

First off, wow, this is quite a personal mix you made! I'll try just to discuss the music, if possible.

I was looking forward to your mix, since you are handled with a lot of respect around here. I also remember you and some orgers were submerged in that lastfm, no, ratemymusic site! I remember you had quite the collection, so I was excited to have you onboard!


I never knew I had a reputation around here! Honestly, I think I know far less about music than most people who are contributing to this awesome adventure. That said, I do believe I am able to put my feelings about a song or album that paint a picture about how it makes me feel, and that is what's so exciting about this whole venture. Hearing these songs through someone else's ears is proving to be a great exercise!


I know this is prince.org and that guy reigned supreme in the 80s, but Prince is one of the few artists I tolerate with that 80s sounds. Also, punk music is kinda hard on my ears as well. lol So, here goes! lol


Yikes! I would have thought my compilation would not have sat so well with you given this caveat!


2. Roxy Music- “Editions of You” (from 1973’s For Your Pleasure)

Oy! Ow!


lol I knew this song would be a bit divisive! It gets my blood boiling like few other songs, and the glam theatrics that pour over into the vocals and Eno's wild tape effects really appeal to me! My mom was a speech and drama teacher, so perhaps my flair for the dramatic can be explained that way. lol


3. Echo and the Bunnymen- “Never Stop (Discotheque)” (standalone single from 1983)

Great song! I will delve into Echo. Love the music, the voice is soooo 80s! biggrin


This song probably sounds more "80s" than a lot of their material. Their most acclaimed albums are 1980's Crocodiles and 1984's Ocean Rain. They are also known to carry quite an influence of The Doors, but I don't hear it as much as many others do.


4. Kraftwerk- “Computer Love” (from 1981’s Computer World)

I know of Kraftwerk, but didn't really bother because of their sound. However, I have to agree with your linernotes: "It almost sounds as if this song is a challenge to such “organic instrument” elitists to not be moved by its warm textures and wistful melodies."
It does sound beautiful! That melody at the beginning, what Coldplay song is that? I'm sure they used it!

Furthermore, you married Diva! Damn, I always loved her avatar! However late, congrats anyway!


Thanks for the Congrats! Funnily enough, it was my beloved wife who pointed out the Coldplay reference. Their bastardization and watering down of this song on their banal "Talk" irritates me!


5. Arcade Fire- “My Body Is a Cage” (from 2007’s Neon Bible)

I saw you had this album as the best of 2007. Wow, haunting beautiful song.


Neon Bible makes my top 10 of the year, but my number 1 without a doubt is LCD Soundsystem's Sound of Silver!


6. The Velvet Underground- “Heroin” (from 1967’s The Velvet Underground & Nico)

As you anticipated, I was not familiar with this song (as with most of VU's catalogue). Probably because it isn't my cup of tea. That constant note bothers me!


This was another risky inclusion, because the song is so severe! It took me awhile to crack it, but now that I have, it is indispensable for me!


7. Eurythmics- “Julia” (from 1984’s 1984: For the Love of Big Brother)

I like Annie's recent records. I never ventured in her past, because of that 80s sound. This song tells me I really shouldn't be afraid. Love it. What you said about Kraftwerk and their tender electro sounds, seems to apply here as well.


Oh my! If you are afraid of the typical "80s sound", I could understand your trepidation about getting into Eurythmics. However, as with any genre or era, there are certain artists who transcend the times and Eurythmics are definitely one of them. They never used synthesizers as a way to hide a lack of musicianship, but rather to enhance their material and give it different textures. Even their most synth-based stuff often incorporates horns, strings, and guitars.


10. Gorillaz- “Demon Days” (from 2005’s Demon Days)

Great ending, musically as well as within the context of your story. My fave of the comp! I loved the first gorillaz, and my respect for Albarn grew with that album (along with some other projects he had going at the time). Somehow I viewed it as a one-off experiment and never gave the following albums any attention. Perhaps I was wrong to do so!


As I told Supa, Demon Days is well-worth checking out. It works on so many different levels, and really puts the debut album to shame!
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Reply #38 posted 07/22/08 7:02pm

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5. Arcade Fire- “My Body Is a Cage” (from 2007’s Neon Bible)

By far the most difficult thing I have ever had to face is the death of my father. In February of 2004, he had a massive stroke while I was in the last few months of my Master’s program. He slipped into a coma, and after he came off of life support and the ventilator, we were told that he still had brain activity, but that he could not move or speak because of the damage to his lower brain stem. So basically, he was trapped in his own body, and there was no proverbial “plug” to pull. It was a harrowing experience for my entire family, and wondering what thoughts and/or capacity he had still haunts me to this day. This song reminds me of that time and the lyrics resonate with me as if they are sung from his perspective. Mercifully, he passed away 23 days after the stroke, and the “Set my spirit free! Set my body free!” climax at the end really chokes me up. I love you, Dad.


You know, I'm not sure if you ever told me about this before, what this song reminds you of. Maybe you did, but I don't recall. But anyway, I always have the same thing in my head (and heart) when I hear it. sad

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Reply #39 posted 07/22/08 7:02pm

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Cinnie said:

"Age Of Consent" was a song you put me on to and I love it, so immediately that one is the jump-off!

I was very moved by your writing, not only your experiences (touched hug) but the way you describe the energy that a sonic landscape provides.


I thought of you when I put it as the opener! biggrin
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Reply #40 posted 07/22/08 7:04pm

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Moonbeam said:



5. Arcade Fire- “My Body Is a Cage” (from 2007’s Neon Bible)

By far the most difficult thing I have ever had to face is the death of my father. In February of 2004, he had a massive stroke while I was in the last few months of my Master’s program. He slipped into a coma, and after he came off of life support and the ventilator, we were told that he still had brain activity, but that he could not move or speak because of the damage to his lower brain stem. So basically, he was trapped in his own body, and there was no proverbial “plug” to pull. It was a harrowing experience for my entire family, and wondering what thoughts and/or capacity he had still haunts me to this day. This song reminds me of that time and the lyrics resonate with me as if they are sung from his perspective. Mercifully, he passed away 23 days after the stroke, and the “Set my spirit free! Set my body free!” climax at the end really chokes me up. I love you, Dad.


You know, I'm not sure if you ever told me about this before, what this song reminds you of. Maybe you did, but I don't recall. But anyway, I always have the same thing in my head (and heart) when I hear it. sad

hug


I haven't really gone into great detail about it before, but yeah, it's really fitting and powerful. sad
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Reply #41 posted 07/22/08 7:04pm

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Cinnie said:

"Age Of Consent" was a song you put me on to and I love it, so immediately that one is the jump-off!

I was very moved by your writing, not only your experiences (touched hug) but the way you describe the energy that a sonic landscape provides.


I thought of you when I put it as the opener! biggrin


woot!
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Reply #42 posted 07/22/08 7:05pm

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Cinnie said:

Moonbeam said:



I thought of you when I put it as the opener! biggrin


woot!


I'm gonna spin your mix today at my office!
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Reply #43 posted 07/22/08 7:05pm

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Moonbeam said:

errant said:



You know, I'm not sure if you ever told me about this before, what this song reminds you of. Maybe you did, but I don't recall. But anyway, I always have the same thing in my head (and heart) when I hear it. sad

hug


I haven't really gone into great detail about it before, but yeah, it's really fitting and powerful. sad



I sometimes have to turn off the album when this track comes on because it brings back such painful memories and regrets from that time. confused

But sometimes it's cathartic.
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Reply #44 posted 07/22/08 7:08pm

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Moonbeam said:



I haven't really gone into great detail about it before, but yeah, it's really fitting and powerful. sad



I sometimes have to turn off the album when this track comes on because it brings back such painful memories and regrets from that time. confused

But sometimes it's cathartic.


Same here! hug After the euphoric rush of "No Cars Go", this completely knocks me out, but sometimes I can't take it.
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Reply #45 posted 07/23/08 4:59pm

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I guess this is what is good about my still earning my white music wings: I had no idea that Gorillaz was not a completely new group lol And not being familiar with most of the other groups, even looking at the tracklist I couldn't have had expectations about this mix. Just love it nod
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Reply #46 posted 07/23/08 6:05pm

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I guess this is what is good about my still earning my white music wings: I had no idea that Gorillaz was not a completely new group lol And not being familiar with most of the other groups, even looking at the tracklist I couldn't have had expectations about this mix. Just love it nod


Yeah, they started as a side project, but the success of the first album made a sequel inevitable! Here are the videos from Demon Days:

Feel Good Inc.



DARE



Dirty Harry



El Mañana

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Reply #47 posted 07/23/08 6:20pm

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is blur that group that sang that song where the chorus went something like this:

girls who like boys who like boys who like boys who like girls who like girls who like boys
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Reply #48 posted 07/23/08 6:21pm

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I just listened to your mix for the first time, Moonbeam. I'll listen once more before commenting, but your choices are so personal, it will be difficult to really criticize any of them. neutral
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I just listened to your mix for the first time, Moonbeam. I'll listen once more before commenting, but your choices are so personal, it will be difficult to really criticize any of them. neutral

confused confused confused I think people forget the purpose of this project! lol
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Reply #50 posted 07/23/08 6:27pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

is blur that group that sang that song where the chorus went something like this:

girls who like boys who like boys who like boys who like girls who like girls who like boys


nod Makes it all the more surprising to hear the Gorillaz material! Take this song for instance. It starts off like any cool, hip saunter, but it just launches into a beautiful symphony of sound around 2:39.
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Reply #51 posted 07/23/08 6:28pm

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I just listened to your mix for the first time, Moonbeam. I'll listen once more before commenting, but your choices are so personal, it will be difficult to really criticize any of them. neutral


Your bummed about being hesitant to criticize my picks?! wink
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Reply #52 posted 07/23/08 9:04pm

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It was hard to pick a fave. Julia it is.
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Reply #53 posted 07/23/08 9:59pm

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It was hard to pick a fave. Julia it is.


Did I miss something? Are we each supposed to pick a fave?
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Reply #54 posted 07/24/08 2:18am

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Moonbeam said:

HamsterHuey said:

It was hard to pick a fave. Julia it is.


Did I miss something? Are we each supposed to pick a fave?


Not necessarily. However, we toyed around with the idea to make a 'best of' Org Music Club disc, with one song of each compilation. Plus I like the exercise of picking a fave! smile
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Reply #55 posted 07/24/08 4:38am

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3. Echo and the Bunnymen- “Never Stop (Discotheque)” (standalone single from 1983)

I also was (and to a degree still am) an eternal idealist and optimist. I was very fortunate to grow up in a financially secure household brimming with love. I never had to face many of the hardships that so many people do. This led me to become a bit sheltered in my viewpoints and beliefs, and my idealism ran wild. I really only wanted everyone to be in perfect harmony and openly express their admiration and love for one another, as I did. This song captures a bit of my youthful naivety, with “the love you found must never stop” acting as a bit of a motto for me. Musically, I absolutely adore the way the song opens with ominous cellos before blending them with a perfectly danceable synth line. This marriage of two of my favorite instrumental palettes makes it an enduring classic for me.


Beautiful write-up. I feel where you're coming from. I remember you gave me this track a couple of years ago -- the 12" version. Had it on my old black iPod for a while. Many of the songs on your list have intimate associations for me since they've been the soundtrack to my youth.

"Heartbeat" is still a magical tune. When I hear it now, it's sort of overwhelming given how much my life has changed. It can make you cry. I remember the first time I let that track sink in, it was Fall 2005, I was in New York, Madonna's Confessions was the buzz album, the leaves were orange, and I was walking the streets in a zip-up sweater looking at this track glow on my display. Ahh, I really loved the music of this time. Thanks for these tunes.
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Reply #56 posted 07/24/08 9:30am

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Moonbeam said:

HamsterHuey said:

It was hard to pick a fave. Julia it is.


Did I miss something? Are we each supposed to pick a fave?


Everybody was shouting out on the previous threads about faves, so I thought I'd pick one.
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HamsterHuey said:

Moonbeam said:



Did I miss something? Are we each supposed to pick a fave?


Everybody was shouting out on the previous threads about faves, so I thought I'd pick one.

I thought that was part of the project. I'm going to continue picking them. nod
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Reply #58 posted 07/24/08 10:46am

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Beamie, at first when I saw the title of your mix I went No he did NOT pick obscure tracks from the roaring 20s! falloff I mean you're hardcore and everthing but I was like DAMN! omfg

lol
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Reply #59 posted 07/24/08 10:52am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Beamie, at first when I saw the title of your mix I went No he did NOT pick obscure tracks from the roaring 20s! falloff I mean you're hardcore and everthing but I was like DAMN! omfg

lol


That would have been real ace, but exactly my thoughts when I saw the title.
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