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Was Janet even on the show? If, I missed it Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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SynthiaRose said: Ha! You stole my lines because you lack originality.. I'm flattered!
No. I simply threw them back in your fucking face | |
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LiquidGold said: Was Janet even on the show? If, I missed it
No, not at all | |
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Janfriend said: LiquidGold said: Was Janet even on the show? If, I missed it
No, not at all Then why is she even being talked about? It's not even a Janet thread. Someone must have some underlined hate for you  Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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LiquidGold said: Janfriend said: No, not at all Then why is she even being talked about? It's not even a Janet thread. Someone must have some underlined hate for you EXACTLY! They just wanted to be an ass. This is the type of person that, no matter what music thread I'm, will try to bring up Janet in a negative way [Edited 6/30/08 18:59pm] | |
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Janfriend said: LiquidGold said: Then why is she even being talked about? It's not even a Janet thread. Someone must have some underlined hate for you EXACTLY! They just wanted to be an ass. This is the type of person that, no matter what music thread I'm, will try to bring up Janet in a negative way
[Edited 6/30/08 18:59pm] I've kinda noticed that here. It's weird. I don't get it. Her name just pops out of nowhere Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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Jan, you can't throw them in my face because they were meant for you; I'm not behaving on this thread as you are. Your comments simply don't fit me.
I'm astonished at your responses. They are either angry or make no sense at all or both. You are like a bully on the playground. I expressed admiration for Rihanna. you made a snide remark. I returned some insight into your hypocrisy. Like a bully, you dissolve into cursing, ranting, mimicking and overally fantasy accusations. After looking at all my responses to this thread. And your posts, I feel pretty confident about how I've conducted myself. It's clear you expect to be rude and think no one's going to challenge your absurdity. Jan, this thread isn't about you. Move on. [Edited 6/30/08 19:06pm] | |
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LiquidGold said: Janfriend said: EXACTLY! They just wanted to be an ass. This is the type of person that, no matter what music thread I'm, will try to bring up Janet in a negative way
[Edited 6/30/08 18:59pm] I've kinda noticed that here. It's weird. I don't get it. Her name just pops out of nowhere It's really stupid. As much as I hate Madonna, I don't talk about her when it's not relevant to the thread. That's like being on a Kylie Minogue thread and a Madonna fan says they don't like Kylie and I jump in and say "Oh yeah, well Madonna ain't shit!" How stupid is that? | |
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SynthiaRose said: Jan, you can't throw them in my face because they were meant for you; I'm not behaving on this thread as you are. Your comments simply don't fit me.
I'm astonished at your responses. They are either angry or make no sense at all or both. You are like a bully on the playground. I expressed admiration for Rihanna. you made a snide remark. I returned some insight into your hypocrisy. Like a bully, you dissolve into cursing, ranting, mimicking and overally fantasy accusations. After looking at all my responses to this thread. And your posts, I feel pretty confident about how I've conducted myself. It's clear you expect to be rude and think no one's going to challenge your absurdity. Jan, this thread isn't about you. Move on. [Edited 6/30/08 19:06pm] My comment wasn't snide, but yours was. My comment was a fact. Paying dues is about how hard you work to get there and how long you've been there. You got offended and decided to make a wack ass comment. It's clear you expected to be able to says such a thing and not be called on it. You're just like any other person who can't admit you put your foot in your mouth trying to be smart | |
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Janfriend said: LiquidGold said: I've kinda noticed that here. It's weird. I don't get it. Her name just pops out of nowhere It's really stupid. As much as I hate Madonna, I don't talk about her when it's not relevant to the thread. That's like being on a Kylie Minogue thread and a Madonna fan says they don't like Kylie and I jump in and say "Oh yeah, well Madonna ain't shit!" How stupid is that?Very Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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Janfriend said: SynthiaRose said: Jan, you can't throw them in my face because they were meant for you; I'm not behaving on this thread as you are. Your comments simply don't fit me.
I'm astonished at your responses. They are either angry or make no sense at all or both. You are like a bully on the playground. I expressed admiration for Rihanna. you made a snide remark. I returned some insight into your hypocrisy. Like a bully, you dissolve into cursing, ranting, mimicking and overally fantasy accusations. After looking at all my responses to this thread. And your posts, I feel pretty confident about how I've conducted myself. It's clear you expect to be rude and think no one's going to challenge your absurdity. Jan, this thread isn't about you. Move on. [Edited 6/30/08 19:06pm] My comment wasn't snide, but yours was. My comment was a fact. Paying dues is about how hard you work to get there and how long you've been there. You got offended and decided to make a wack ass comment. It's clear you expected to be able to says such a thing and not be called on it. You're just like any other person who can't admit you put your foot in your mouth trying to be smart Janfriend. I'm always open for intelligent discussion. It's my reason for being. So, I don't get offended as much as shocked when people can't reason. If you can provide intelligent dialogue I'm open to debate about Rihanna's abilities. I don't regret anything I've said. I do noticed you've now gone back wayy after the fact to tweak a couple of your comments and add some stuff to make it seem as if you can think a bit. Good job. | |
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SynthiaRose said: Janfriend said: My comment wasn't snide, but yours was. My comment was a fact. Paying dues is about how hard you work to get there and how long you've been there. You got offended and decided to make a wack ass comment. It's clear you expected to be able to says such a thing and not be called on it. You're just like any other person who can't admit you put your foot in your mouth trying to be smart Janfriend. I'm always open for intelligent discussion. It's my reason for being. So, I don't get offended as much as shocked when people can't reason. If you can provide intelligent dialogue I'm open to debate about Rihanna's abilities. I don't regret anything I've said. I do noticed you've now gone back wayy after the fact to tweak a couple of your comments and add some stuff to make it seem as if you can think a bit. Good job. Oh shut up! I edited spelling errors on my posts added one comment on one. Try something else. I'm all open to having a discussion with someone who isn't trying to be insulting to me or other artists I may like. You can't seem to do that, can you. I'm not trying to debate Rihanna's abilities. She does have any. You were simply wrong in bringing up Janet in a thread that wasn't about her and you STILL cannot justify it | |
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Janfriend said: Oh shut up! I edited spelling errors on my posts added one comment on one. Try something else. I'm all open to having a discussion with someone who isn't trying to be insulting to me or other artists I may like. You can't seem to do that, can you. I'm not trying to debate Rihanna's abilities. She does have any. You were simply wrong in bringing up Janet in a thread that wasn't about her and you STILL cannot justify it Oh JanFriend, "shut up" is so cliche and trite and boring that it's only used now as a last resort by people who share those same qualities. Look. I'm not expending anymore energy talking about someone as on the way out as JJ (despite your dramtically baiting me with "STILL" lol). I mentioned Beyonce too. Wanna defend her? Good. Because I will mention who I want when I want for whatever reason. Now, you've amused me but I have company. Keep posting. Preferably once every five minutes. When I have nothing else to do, I'll check in on you. Ready, set, go. . [Edited 6/30/08 19:39pm] | |
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SynthiaRose said: Janfriend said: Oh shut up! I edited spelling errors on my posts added one comment on one. Try something else. I'm all open to having a discussion with someone who isn't trying to be insulting to me or other artists I may like. You can't seem to do that, can you. I'm not trying to debate Rihanna's abilities. She does have any. You were simply wrong in bringing up Janet in a thread that wasn't about her and you STILL cannot justify it Oh JanFriend, "shut up" is so cliche and trite and boring that it's only used now as a last resort by people who share those same qualities. Look. I'm not expending anymore energy talking about someone as on the way out as JJ (despite your dramtically baiting me with "STILL" lol). I mentioned Beyonce too. Wanna defend her? Good. Because I will mention who I want when I want for whatever reason. Now, you've amused me but I have company. Keep posting. Preferably once every five minutes. When I have nothing else to do, I'll check in on you. Ready, set, go. . [Edited 6/30/08 19:39pm] Keep reaching because that's all your doing, trying to act as if you're above what you did. "For whatever reason..." which means you don't have any reason and that just makes you look like the bigger idiot. If you can't give a reason for bringing something/someone up, then don't bring it up. You can't back up why you brought it up. It's really hard to bait someone who started the baiting in the first place | |
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Janfriend said: SynthiaRose said: It's not a question of time or how she got signed. She put out songs and was not an immediate hit... there was question about whether her career would even survive. Even Jay Z at one point questioned why she was not blowing up as planned. But there is something about Rihanna's personality and songs that are infectitious...she kept putting her creations out there, she stopped trying to be a Beyonce mirror and created her own style, she tried out a variety of interesting sounds, and she's pulled it off. She's now captivated people in her own way. Not too many could deliver in the way she has live -- especially in the collab with Maroon 5. That really upped her game. Laugh if you desire. She is the next big star. She has personality in spades and doesn't have to sell it over the top like Bey or your darling Janet. [Edited 6/30/08 7:22am] Excuse you, Janet has nothing to do with this conversation. God, I hate it when people get retarded like that and start throwing out names just because they know someone knows or likes them. There was no point to that except to be shitty I don't know what Rihanna is delivering live except theatrics, but 
That collab with Maroon 5 sucks ass. They fucked up one of the best songs on their album for what? To sell more albums. It definitely isn't because they respect her as a musician Precisely. The conversation had nothing to do with Janet. Anyway, we'll have to wait to see if Rihanna has a 25-year career before we start slagging Janet on a Rihanna thread. Can't believe someone gives Rihanna props and feels the need to put Janet down in the same breath. What's next? Soulja Boy is the shit and Snoop ain't shit? | |
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VoicesCarry said: Janfriend said: Excuse you, Janet has nothing to do with this conversation. God, I hate it when people get retarded like that and start throwing out names just because they know someone knows or likes them. There was no point to that except to be shitty I don't know what Rihanna is delivering live except theatrics, but
That collab with Maroon 5 sucks ass. They fucked up one of the best songs on their album for what? To sell more albums. It definitely isn't because they respect her as a musician Precisely. The conversation had nothing to do with Janet. Anyway, we'll have to wait to see if Rihanna has a 25-year career before we start slagging Janet on a Rihanna thread. Can't believe someone gives Rihanna props and feels the need to put Janet down in the same breath. What's next? Soulja Boy is the shit and Snoop ain't shit? Exactly. That's probably coming soon. Chingy is way more talented than LL or some crap like that | |
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SynthiaRose said: Of course *I* brought her up. WTF? LOL. And of course she was specific to you. That's already been addressed. There must be a black hole of intelligence in this thread.
Whatever Janfriend. You bore me. Respond to someone else. Next. Total Alisa. No I don't think Rihanna could create Rhythm Nation and Velvet Rope tour, etc. Those are the products of someone with a socio-political voice. Rihanna, as I can see, is not seeking to carve that niche. My praise for Rihanna is for her singing ability and presence. In the past, Janet was great, whispery weak voice aside. That's why I used the adverb *now* to suggest she's just coasting. I bought the album before last (so negligible the title escapes me) and threw it away. I didn't even seek to buy the last one. She jumped the shark with the whole breast drama which she masterminded. At any rate, she was brought up to address the hypocrisy of Janfriend. The point wasn't to suggest Janet had no merit, but to say how can someone who forgives Janet for her artistic shortcomings not have the presence of mind to see the unique redeeming qualities of a performer like Rihanna. If you can forgive one and not the other.. hypocrisy. But so what. People have opinions. There's room for all. I don't like Janet as she stands now. I like Rihanna now. I still trying to figure out how my posting positive about Rihanna is leading to all this. IF someone addresses me I have to respond honestly. And so now we're here. I'm moving on. [Edited 6/30/08 17:18pm] Who cares where janet is right now... You still can't take away what she has accomplished.. and when i say could rih do a Rhythm nation.. im talking not just about the music, im talking about the performance, and dance and even videos... and she could NEVER even if she tried.. rihanna canNOT dance at all.. she has the worst stage presence... LOOK AT THIS CRAP... even on janet's worst performance is still better then this.. | |
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SynthiaRose said: Janfriend said: My comment wasn't snide, but yours was. My comment was a fact. Paying dues is about how hard you work to get there and how long you've been there. You got offended and decided to make a wack ass comment. It's clear you expected to be able to says such a thing and not be called on it. You're just like any other person who can't admit you put your foot in your mouth trying to be smart Janfriend. I'm always open for intelligent discussion. It's my reason for being. So, I don't get offended as much as shocked when people can't reason. If you can provide intelligent dialogue I'm open to debate about Rihanna's abilities. I don't regret anything I've said. I do noticed you've now gone back wayy after the fact to tweak a couple of your comments and add some stuff to make it seem as if you can think a bit. Good job. YOu cannot compare janet to rihanna.. cause really janet is an overall better artist and performer... NOT every artist is going to have an octave voice... they are Entertainers... with out artist like janet.. the award shows would be boring... anyways... Janet is NOT forgiven for anything... NOTHING... to forgive her for.. but rihanna is on her third album.. and still cannot put on a show.. all she does and very slight movements... YES i enjoy the music but the performances are just terrible... and she hasn't had the same impact that janet has... | |
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TotalAlisa said: SynthiaRose said: Janfriend. I'm always open for intelligent discussion. It's my reason for being. So, I don't get offended as much as shocked when people can't reason. If you can provide intelligent dialogue I'm open to debate about Rihanna's abilities. I don't regret anything I've said. I do noticed you've now gone back wayy after the fact to tweak a couple of your comments and add some stuff to make it seem as if you can think a bit. Good job. YOu cannot compare janet to rihanna.. cause really janet is an overall better artist and performer... NOT every artist is going to have an octave voice... they are Entertainers... with out artist like janet.. the award shows would be boring... anyways... Janet is NOT forgiven for anything... NOTHING... to forgive her for.. but rihanna is on her third album.. and still cannot put on a show.. all she does and very slight movements... YES i enjoy the music but the performances are just terrible... and she hasn't had the same impact that janet has... Ok. Yes....Rihanna did suck at the BET Awards, but she has done some pretty good performances. Here is one of her best: This has to be one of the worst Janet performances....ever [Edited 7/2/08 13:09pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Ok. Yes....Rihanna did suck at the BET Awards, but she has done some pretty good performances. Here is one of her best: This has to be one of the worst Janet performances....ever [Edited 7/2/08 13:09pm] UM... rihanna's performance still did nothing..and this is her best.. thats what i mean.. she can NOT dance or perform.. then to top it off her she doesn't have an octave voice... the song is hot... the performance was decent because of the sparks, the dancers, and the hot song.. Janets performance was a little slow but she worked the stage much better and had more confidence.. and could actually dance... rihanna's best still does NOT outshine janet's worst.. actually these performance are about equal.... | |
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TotalAlisa said: daPrettyman said: Ok. Yes....Rihanna did suck at the BET Awards, but she has done some pretty good performances. Here is one of her best: This has to be one of the worst Janet performances....ever [Edited 7/2/08 13:09pm] UM... rihanna's performance still did nothing..and this is her best.. thats what i mean.. she can NOT dance or perform.. then to top it off her she doesn't have an octave voice... the song is hot... the performance was decent because of the sparks, the dancers, and the hot song.. Janets performance was a little slow but she worked the stage much better and had more confidence.. and could actually dance... rihanna's best still does NOT outshine janet's worst.. actually these performance are about equal.... The consensus is that both Janet and Rihanna are 2 different types of performers. I don't think anyone has really compared the 2 here. Every performer gives good and bad performances. All singers have different vocal ranger/stylings, etc. Rihanna and Janet don't compare vocally. Rihanna reminds me of T-Boz from TLC vocally. As a matter of fact, Rihanna has a little more range than T-Boz. Nothing wrong with either one. I'm not a huge fan of Rihanna, but she's not all bad. Hell, this year was the first time I have actually seen her perform. Before that, she just stood there and either lipsynced or barely danced. I think for her next album, her record company will have her turning even more tricks. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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I don't know how this turned into a Rihanna vs. Janet thread...but since it did, let me load up...
Rihanna is pure product manufactured to sell records for Def Jam as Beyoncé's competition. Jay-Z as president of Def Jam at the time followed his woman's career to the letter and made almost identical moves with regards to Rihanna. They were trying to make a pop star and they did it. Her voice is blah. She's not the worst singer in the world or anything but its her LOOKS that carry her. Add to that, her TRACKS are what keep people interested in her music - just like Britney Spears. I'm not saying Janet is an incredible singer, but Janet has been the brainchild behind most of her career. She chooses the direction, concept, etc. Rihanna is a different animal altogether. She is not in charge of her career. She is where she is because she has volunteered herself to the label. She chooses to allow them to manipulate her in any way they choose as long as she's successful. Janet could have easily stuck it out as part of the Jackson family and attached herself to Michael in some capacity instead of teaming up with Jam & Lewis and going in a different direction from Michael. Rihanna is a hand picked puppet. They tell her what to wear, how to look and what to say. As a performer, she has less stage presence than J-Lo (who is a background b**ch if there ever was one). Ashanti, Christina Millian, Mya or Amerie could have sang "Umbrella" and it still would have been a hit if it was promoted with the same vigor as it was with Rihanna. Janet has had phases to her career and if she was just one dimensional, she would have faded like so many other one hit wonder female singers. Rihanna has nothing "iconic" about her and there's no real reason to believe that she'll do something to make her last (unless its a sex tape with Chris Brown or something). Janet has had an entire career and at the end if it all, she has made music that is iconic. Rihanna hasn't done anything to be compared to Janet. [Edited 7/2/08 15:23pm] | |
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BlaqueKnight said: I don't know how this turned into a Rihanna vs. Janet thread...but since it did, let me load up...
Rihanna is pure product manufactured to sell records for Def Jam as Beyoncé's competition. Jay-Z as president of Def Jam at the time followed his woman's career to the letter and made almost identical moves with regards to Rihanna. They were trying to make a pop star and they did it. Her voice is blah. She's not the worst singer in the world or anything but its her LOOKS that carry her. Add to that, her TRACKS are what keep people interested in her music - just like Britney Spears. I'm not saying Janet is an incredible singer, but Janet has been the brainchild behind most of her career. She chooses the direction, concept, etc. Rihanna is a different animal altogether. She is not in charge of her career. She is where she is because she has volunteered herself to the label. She chooses to allow them to manipulate her in any way they choose as long as she's successful. Janet could have easily stuck it out as part of the Jackson family and attached herself to Michael in some capacity instead of teaming up with Jam & Lewis and going in a different direction from Michael. Rihanna is a hand picked puppet. They tell her what to wear, how to look and what to say. As a performer, she has less stage presence than J-Lo (who is a background b**ch if there ever was one). Ashanti, Christina Millian, Mya or Amerie could have sang "Umbrella" and it still would have been a hit if it was promoted with the same vigor as it was with Rihanna. Janet has had phases to her career and if she was just one dimensional, she would have faded like so many other one hit wonder female singers. Rihanna has nothing "iconic" about her and there's no real reason to believe that she'll do something to make her last (unless its a sex tape with Chris Brown or something). Janet has had an entire career and at the end if it all, she has made music that is iconic. Rihanna hasn't done anything to be compared to Janet. [Edited 7/2/08 15:23pm] I agree with you on all of your points. However, the same could have been said about Janet (the manufacturing part). Clarence Avant and Joe Jackson were the masterminds behind Janet's Control project. That's not a bad thing, but EVERYTHING about Janet's Control and RN projects were carefully calculated. As for Rihanna being Beyonce's competition, I don't think so. I think Rihanna was originally crafted to be Britney's competition. Once people saw her exotic look, then they crafted her to be a singing diva. BTW, (as usual) TotalAisa changed the direction of the topic. [Edited 7/2/08 15:40pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: BlaqueKnight said: I don't know how this turned into a Rihanna vs. Janet thread...but since it did, let me load up...
Rihanna is pure product manufactured to sell records for Def Jam as Beyoncé's competition. Jay-Z as president of Def Jam at the time followed his woman's career to the letter and made almost identical moves with regards to Rihanna. They were trying to make a pop star and they did it. Her voice is blah. She's not the worst singer in the world or anything but its her LOOKS that carry her. Add to that, her TRACKS are what keep people interested in her music - just like Britney Spears. I'm not saying Janet is an incredible singer, but Janet has been the brainchild behind most of her career. She chooses the direction, concept, etc. Rihanna is a different animal altogether. She is not in charge of her career. She is where she is because she has volunteered herself to the label. She chooses to allow them to manipulate her in any way they choose as long as she's successful. Janet could have easily stuck it out as part of the Jackson family and attached herself to Michael in some capacity instead of teaming up with Jam & Lewis and going in a different direction from Michael. Rihanna is a hand picked puppet. They tell her what to wear, how to look and what to say. As a performer, she has less stage presence than J-Lo (who is a background b**ch if there ever was one). Ashanti, Christina Millian, Mya or Amerie could have sang "Umbrella" and it still would have been a hit if it was promoted with the same vigor as it was with Rihanna. Janet has had phases to her career and if she was just one dimensional, she would have faded like so many other one hit wonder female singers. Rihanna has nothing "iconic" about her and there's no real reason to believe that she'll do something to make her last (unless its a sex tape with Chris Brown or something). Janet has had an entire career and at the end if it all, she has made music that is iconic. Rihanna hasn't done anything to be compared to Janet. [Edited 7/2/08 15:23pm] I agree with you on all of your points. However, the same could have been said about Janet (the manufacturing part). Clarence Avant and Joe Jackson were the masterminds behind Janet's Control project. That's not a bad thing, but EVERYTHING about Janet's Control and RN projects were carefully calculated. As for Rihanna being Beyonce's competition, I don't think so. I think Rihanna was originally crafted to be Britney's competition. Once people saw her exotic look, then they crafted her to be a singing diva. BTW, (as usual) TotalAisa changed the direction of the topic. [Edited 7/2/08 15:40pm] Joe had very little to do with Control. She fired him during that period. He was the mastermined behind Janet Jackson and Dreamstreet | |
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Janfriend said: daPrettyman said: I agree with you on all of your points. However, the same could have been said about Janet (the manufacturing part). Clarence Avant and Joe Jackson were the masterminds behind Janet's Control project. That's not a bad thing, but EVERYTHING about Janet's Control and RN projects were carefully calculated. As for Rihanna being Beyonce's competition, I don't think so. I think Rihanna was originally crafted to be Britney's competition. Once people saw her exotic look, then they crafted her to be a singing diva. BTW, (as usual) TotalAisa changed the direction of the topic. [Edited 7/2/08 15:40pm] Joe had very little to do with Control. She fired him during that period. He was the mastermined behind Janet Jackson and Dreamstreet Joe was still around during the early stages of RN as her manager. 
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BlaqueKnight said: I don't know how this turned into a Rihanna vs. Janet thread...but since it did, let me load up...
Rihanna is pure product manufactured to sell records for Def Jam as Beyoncé's competition. Jay-Z as president of Def Jam at the time followed his woman's career to the letter and made almost identical moves with regards to Rihanna. They were trying to make a pop star and they did it. Her voice is blah. She's not the worst singer in the world or anything but its her LOOKS that carry her. Add to that, her TRACKS are what keep people interested in her music - just like Britney Spears. I'm not saying Janet is an incredible singer, but Janet has been the brainchild behind most of her career. She chooses the direction, concept, etc. Rihanna is a different animal altogether. She is not in charge of her career. She is where she is because she has volunteered herself to the label. She chooses to allow them to manipulate her in any way they choose as long as she's successful. Janet could have easily stuck it out as part of the Jackson family and attached herself to Michael in some capacity instead of teaming up with Jam & Lewis and going in a different direction from Michael. Rihanna is a hand picked puppet. They tell her what to wear, how to look and what to say. As a performer, she has less stage presence than J-Lo (who is a background b**ch if there ever was one). Ashanti, Christina Millian, Mya or Amerie could have sang "Umbrella" and it still would have been a hit if it was promoted with the same vigor as it was with Rihanna. Janet has had phases to her career and if she was just one dimensional, she would have faded like so many other one hit wonder female singers. Rihanna has nothing "iconic" about her and there's no real reason to believe that she'll do something to make her last (unless its a sex tape with Chris Brown or something). Janet has had an entire career and at the end if it all, she has made music that is iconic. Rihanna hasn't done anything to be compared to Janet. [Edited 7/2/08 15:23pm]  Very Well said. Sorry, but anybody who even compares Rhianna to Janet is obviously either too young to remember how much Janet has accomplished or seriously needs to have their ears and eyes checked at their local physician. Rhianna is a product...period. Janet has done it all and could wipe the floor with Rhianna and Janet is twice this chicks age. Janet has been performing since she was like 7 years old and has managed to shine just as bright as her superstar brother, yet she still comes off as being a humble, soft-spoken woman (one of the main reasons I like her soo much), whereas some of these new muthafuckas who have only been out for less than 5 years have the audacity to walk around with this attitude like they are God's gift to music...  . flavors of the moment is all most of these cocky morons are and totally replaceable but too stupid to realize it. When Rhianna drops off the map, there will be another one just like her to take her place, but Janet is an icon and nobody replaces icons, they just copy them.
I don't get why people want to compare a new artist to an artist who's been out for more than 2 decades. When Janet was dropping hits, Rhianna was walking around in diapers, so there really is no reason to even put them in the same sentence and say the younger is even in the same league. What Rhianna is doing is something Janet did 10 years ago. The majority of new artists seem to be weak carbon copies of older artists who STILL possess 10 times more talent in their pinky toes than many of these newbies have in their whole bodies. Sorry, but everytime I look at Rhianna, I get mesmerized more by her gigantic forehead than her performances, because she isn't anything awe-inspiring to me...chick has a huge forehead for real and I'm happy she has bangs now.  Prince Rogers Nelson
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estelle81 said: BlaqueKnight said: I don't know how this turned into a Rihanna vs. Janet thread...but since it did, let me load up...
Rihanna is pure product manufactured to sell records for Def Jam as Beyoncé's competition. Jay-Z as president of Def Jam at the time followed his woman's career to the letter and made almost identical moves with regards to Rihanna. They were trying to make a pop star and they did it. Her voice is blah. She's not the worst singer in the world or anything but its her LOOKS that carry her. Add to that, her TRACKS are what keep people interested in her music - just like Britney Spears. I'm not saying Janet is an incredible singer, but Janet has been the brainchild behind most of her career. She chooses the direction, concept, etc. Rihanna is a different animal altogether. She is not in charge of her career. She is where she is because she has volunteered herself to the label. She chooses to allow them to manipulate her in any way they choose as long as she's successful. Janet could have easily stuck it out as part of the Jackson family and attached herself to Michael in some capacity instead of teaming up with Jam & Lewis and going in a different direction from Michael. Rihanna is a hand picked puppet. They tell her what to wear, how to look and what to say. As a performer, she has less stage presence than J-Lo (who is a background b**ch if there ever was one). Ashanti, Christina Millian, Mya or Amerie could have sang "Umbrella" and it still would have been a hit if it was promoted with the same vigor as it was with Rihanna. Janet has had phases to her career and if she was just one dimensional, she would have faded like so many other one hit wonder female singers. Rihanna has nothing "iconic" about her and there's no real reason to believe that she'll do something to make her last (unless its a sex tape with Chris Brown or something). Janet has had an entire career and at the end if it all, she has made music that is iconic. Rihanna hasn't done anything to be compared to Janet. [Edited 7/2/08 15:23pm] Very Well said. Sorry, but anybody who even compares Rhianna to Janet is obviously either too young to remember how much Janet has accomplished or seriously needs to have their ears and eyes checked at their local physician. Rhianna is a product...period. Janet has done it all and could wipe the floor with Rhianna and Janet is twice this chicks age. Janet has been performing since she was like 7 years old and has managed to shine just as bright as her superstar brother, yet she still comes off as being a humble, soft-spoken woman (one of the main reasons I like her soo much), whereas some of these new muthafuckas who have only been out for less than 5 years have the audacity to walk around with this attitude like they are God's gift to music... . flavors of the moment is all most of these cocky morons are and totally replaceable but too stupid to realize it. When Rhianna drops off the map, there will be another one just like her to take her place, but Janet is an icon and nobody replaces icons, they just copy them.
I don't get why people want to compare a new artist to an artist who's been out for more than 2 decades. When Janet was dropping hits, Rhianna was walking around in diapers, so there really is no reason to even put them in the same sentence and say the younger is even in the same league. What Rhianna is doing is something Janet did 10 years ago. The majority of new artists seem to be weak carbon copies of older artists who STILL possess 10 times more talent in their pinky toes than many of these newbies have in their whole bodies. Sorry, but everytime I look at Rhianna, I get mesmerized more by her gigantic forehead than her performances, because she isn't anything awe-inspiring to me...chick has a huge forehead for real and I'm happy she has bangs now. Was Rihanna even born when Control dropped? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: estelle81 said: Very Well said. Sorry, but anybody who even compares Rhianna to Janet is obviously either too young to remember how much Janet has accomplished or seriously needs to have their ears and eyes checked at their local physician. Rhianna is a product...period. Janet has done it all and could wipe the floor with Rhianna and Janet is twice this chicks age. Janet has been performing since she was like 7 years old and has managed to shine just as bright as her superstar brother, yet she still comes off as being a humble, soft-spoken woman (one of the main reasons I like her soo much), whereas some of these new muthafuckas who have only been out for less than 5 years have the audacity to walk around with this attitude like they are God's gift to music... . flavors of the moment is all most of these cocky morons are and totally replaceable but too stupid to realize it. When Rhianna drops off the map, there will be another one just like her to take her place, but Janet is an icon and nobody replaces icons, they just copy them.
I don't get why people want to compare a new artist to an artist who's been out for more than 2 decades. When Janet was dropping hits, Rhianna was walking around in diapers, so there really is no reason to even put them in the same sentence and say the younger is even in the same league. What Rhianna is doing is something Janet did 10 years ago. The majority of new artists seem to be weak carbon copies of older artists who STILL possess 10 times more talent in their pinky toes than many of these newbies have in their whole bodies. Sorry, but everytime I look at Rhianna, I get mesmerized more by her gigantic forehead than her performances, because she isn't anything awe-inspiring to me...chick has a huge forehead for real and I'm happy she has bangs now. Was Rihanna even born when Control dropped? I think she's like 19 but I'm not sure...in that case she was a  so that's even more reason why she shouldn't be compared to Janet Prince Rogers Nelson
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estelle81 said: daPrettyman said: Was Rihanna even born when Control dropped? I think she's like 19 but I'm not sure...in that case she was a so that's even more reason why she shouldn't be compared to Janet
I googled her B'day and she was born Feb. 20, 1988. Hell, she wasn't even a sperm cell then.
Maybe she was conceived while her parents were listening to "Let's Wait Awhile" and "Funny How Time Flies".  [Edited 7/2/08 16:35pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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