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Reply #750 posted 03/20/08 1:22pm

VoicesCarry

ehuffnsd said:

badujunkie said:



remember - "Feedback" was also most added...

but didn't it debut at #83? i've seen them say that 4Mins is all ready #47


#43 is its current placement at CHR/Pop radio.

Feedback debuted on the Billboard Hot 100 at #84. Madonna has not debuted on that chart.
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Reply #751 posted 03/20/08 1:54pm

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eleven said:


I dig the cover. It seems like she's having a boxing theme with this CD. cool


the fingerless boxer gloves serve two purposes:

1. throwback to her first album 25 years ago, because her lover Justin is 'such a fan' of that album. ill

2. they cover up the one part of her body that actually looks 50
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Reply #752 posted 03/20/08 1:56pm

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VoicesCarry said:

ehuffnsd said:


but didn't it debut at #83? i've seen them say that 4Mins is all ready #47


#43 is its current placement at CHR/Pop radio.

Feedback debuted on the Billboard Hot 100 at #84. Madonna has not debuted on that chart.


You tell em! And I wasn't dissing FeedBack's success - I actually think it did great considering radio has ignored janet's last two albums and it's such a dance-oriented, club track. My point is just because a song has lots of spins/most added it's first week out, doesn't guarantee top 10 airply by ANY means.
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Reply #753 posted 03/20/08 3:01pm

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Try some large hard candy...yummy!

"There is no such thing in life as normal..."
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Reply #754 posted 03/20/08 3:17pm

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i wish the Q magazine cover photo was the album cover instead
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Reply #755 posted 03/20/08 3:32pm

VoicesCarry

badujunkie said:

VoicesCarry said:



#43 is its current placement at CHR/Pop radio.

Feedback debuted on the Billboard Hot 100 at #84. Madonna has not debuted on that chart.


You tell em! And I wasn't dissing FeedBack's success - I actually think it did great considering radio has ignored janet's last two albums and it's such a dance-oriented, club track. My point is just because a song has lots of spins/most added it's first week out, doesn't guarantee top 10 airply by ANY means.


Ironically they sent Feedback back for adds last week, and it is already #42 on that chart with a +346 spin bullet. It's going to re-enter the Top 40 (its original peak was #29). The track isn't dead yet.
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Reply #756 posted 03/20/08 4:29pm

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VoicesCarry said:

badujunkie said:



You tell em! And I wasn't dissing FeedBack's success - I actually think it did great considering radio has ignored janet's last two albums and it's such a dance-oriented, club track. My point is just because a song has lots of spins/most added it's first week out, doesn't guarantee top 10 airply by ANY means.


Ironically they sent Feedback back for adds last week, and it is already #42 on that chart with a +346 spin bullet. It's going to re-enter the Top 40 (its original peak was #29). The track isn't dead yet.


for real!? awesome news! i actually would love for "cant b good" to do well - love that slow jam.

lets hijack the Madge thread and turn it into a Janet one!
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Reply #757 posted 03/20/08 5:06pm

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lets hijack the Madge thread and turn it into a Janet one!


Oh, I don't think so no no no!

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Reply #758 posted 03/20/08 7:13pm

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As far as I know, we madonna fans respected the janet album thread... I expect the same level of respect here
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Reply #759 posted 03/20/08 7:56pm

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MikeMatronik said:

As far as I know, we madonna fans respected the janet album thread... I expect the same level of respect here


Fortunately a lot of us are fans of both. smile
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Reply #760 posted 03/20/08 8:24pm

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VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:

As far as I know, we madonna fans respected the janet album thread... I expect the same level of respect here


Fortunately a lot of us are fans of both. smile


some of us have always been fans of both, but used to prefer M - but then saw the light.
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Reply #761 posted 03/20/08 9:11pm

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SoulAlive said:

TOUR UPDATE: TICKETS GO ON SALE MAY 2ND???!!

Reports are coming in that LiveNation is putting the final touches to a sponsorhip deal for Madonna's 2008/2009 world tour.An insider said: "We are hoping to have tickets go on sale for all locations around May 2nd with pre-sale tickets going on sale on the 1st".They also said the tour will be "huge" with Madonna going to alot of far-out places (Mexico is even being discussed,and Australia is already confirmed).Not surprisingly,tickets are expected to be highly priced with front row sections being charged a premium.Nothing has been officially announced yet but a press release will be issued as soon as the sponsorhip deal is completed.


eek We barely have time to get excited about the new CD,and now we have to worry about ticket sales?? Being a Madonna fan is never boring,lol.


Is one of those far out places Detroit? If not, Madonna is being a real See You Next Tuesday! I don't understand how she went from always playing the Palace, including 2 sold out nights on the DWT (one recorded for HBO). Michigan isn't doing so well, but I'm sure that a tour from her will be sold out!

I finally heard "4 Minutes" on teh radio. It played on the dance channel like I expected but I think it is accessibe enough for Top 40. What pisses me off is that they only played the 3 minute version that seems to be missing a whole lot! I heard a fuller version (which also seems to be missing a chunk). The dance channel sometimes plays nine minutes mixes off stuff (same for the disco channel which will sometimes break out 10 min+ 12" tracks). The edit doesn't do the song justice. Actually, most of her singles that are cut down for radio end up taking out good stuff.
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Reply #762 posted 03/20/08 9:17pm

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MikeMatronik said:

As far as I know, we madonna fans respected the janet album thread... I expect the same level of respect here

I'm a fan of both (lately more Janet with her newer stuff....with first singles for both albums, definately "Feedback" over "4 Minutes", which I also like). Now let's all join forces and fight the real enemy...Mariah Carey!

Rockabilly

i wish the Q magazine cover photo was the album cover instead


I do, too but it's too normal. Madonna is obviosly not going for glamour here but is all about letting her freak flag fly!
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Reply #763 posted 03/20/08 9:18pm

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VinnyM27 said:

SoulAlive said:

TOUR UPDATE: TICKETS GO ON SALE MAY 2ND???!!

Reports are coming in that LiveNation is putting the final touches to a sponsorhip deal for Madonna's 2008/2009 world tour.An insider said: "We are hoping to have tickets go on sale for all locations around May 2nd with pre-sale tickets going on sale on the 1st".They also said the tour will be "huge" with Madonna going to alot of far-out places (Mexico is even being discussed,and Australia is already confirmed).Not surprisingly,tickets are expected to be highly priced with front row sections being charged a premium.Nothing has been officially announced yet but a press release will be issued as soon as the sponsorhip deal is completed.


eek We barely have time to get excited about the new CD,and now we have to worry about ticket sales?? Being a Madonna fan is never boring,lol.


Is one of those far out places Detroit? If not, Madonna is being a real See You Next Tuesday! I don't understand how she went from always playing the Palace, including 2 sold out nights on the DWT (one recorded for HBO). Michigan isn't doing so well, but I'm sure that a tour from her will be sold out!

I finally heard "4 Minutes" on teh radio. It played on the dance channel like I expected but I think it is accessibe enough for Top 40. What pisses me off is that they only played the 3 minute version that seems to be missing a whole lot! I heard a fuller version (which also seems to be missing a chunk). The dance channel sometimes plays nine minutes mixes off stuff (same for the disco channel which will sometimes break out 10 min+ 12" tracks). The edit doesn't do the song justice. Actually, most of her singles that are cut down for radio end up taking out good stuff.


don't forget that sometimes the logisitics of a tour prevent them from going to every city they may want to go to.

Madge may not be excluding Detroit on purpose but it may not fit in the schedule
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Reply #764 posted 03/20/08 9:33pm

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don't forget that sometimes the logisitics of a tour prevent them from going to every city they may want to go to.

Madge may not be excluding Detroit on purpose but it may not fit in the schedule


Let me think about that.... hmmm

No, she's just being a cunt!

I don't mean to attack, but I don't get what you're saying. Do you mean that venue would be booked for something else on those days (it's where the Pistons play and considering she tours in the summer, that is an overlap....Or does Basketball usually end early summer, like Hockey?).

I mean, the way she tours and considering she ALWAYS plays neighboring Chicago and Canada (are these bigger markets?), it almost seems like she is going out of her way. I've heard it said the first time she avoided Detroit was because they couldn't set up her stage show at the Palace....a possibility but it happened again?
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Reply #765 posted 03/20/08 11:43pm

SoulAlive

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Is this available yet?! I gotta get it.Q Magazine is probably my favorite music mag these days.
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Reply #766 posted 03/20/08 11:45pm

SoulAlive

VinnyM27 said:

ehuffnsd said:



don't forget that sometimes the logisitics of a tour prevent them from going to every city they may want to go to.

Madge may not be excluding Detroit on purpose but it may not fit in the schedule


Let me think about that.... hmmm

No, she's just being a cunt!

I don't mean to attack, but I don't get what you're saying. Do you mean that venue would be booked for something else on those days (it's where the Pistons play and considering she tours in the summer, that is an overlap....Or does Basketball usually end early summer, like Hockey?).

I mean, the way she tours and considering she ALWAYS plays neighboring Chicago and Canada (are these bigger markets?), it almost seems like she is going out of her way. I've heard it said the first time she avoided Detroit was because they couldn't set up her stage show at the Palace....a possibility but it happened again?


Yeah,I think it's a shame that Madonna skipped her hometown(!) on her last two tours.That is inexcusable.Fortunately,I live in an area that she never skips lol
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Reply #767 posted 03/21/08 12:12am

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SoulAlive said:

VinnyM27 said:



Let me think about that.... hmmm

No, she's just being a cunt!

I don't mean to attack, but I don't get what you're saying. Do you mean that venue would be booked for something else on those days (it's where the Pistons play and considering she tours in the summer, that is an overlap....Or does Basketball usually end early summer, like Hockey?).

I mean, the way she tours and considering she ALWAYS plays neighboring Chicago and Canada (are these bigger markets?), it almost seems like she is going out of her way. I've heard it said the first time she avoided Detroit was because they couldn't set up her stage show at the Palace....a possibility but it happened again?


Yeah,I think it's a shame that Madonna skipped her hometown(!) on her last two tours.That is inexcusable.Fortunately,I live in an area that she never skips lol
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I honestly don't know if I would have seen her both times or even once. It would have sold out regardless. I saw her in 2001, it cost a fortune even for nosebleed seats but I got see Madonna. It would just be nice to have the opportunity.
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Reply #768 posted 03/21/08 12:18am

SoulAlive

I've seen her on the last three tours...

Drowned World Tour 2001---she did two shows in my area and I went to both
Re-Invention Tour 2004---she did three shows in my area and I went to all three
Confessions Tour 2006---she did two shows in my area and I went to both


I can't wait to see the schedule for the 'Hard Candy' tour.
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Reply #769 posted 03/21/08 2:21am

SoulAlive

Pharrell talks about working with Madonna,as "Candy Shop" plays in the background


Same clip I posted earlier,only this time it's on Youtube.
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Reply #770 posted 03/21/08 2:37am

SoulAlive

"The Beat Goes On" (demo version).Haven't heard this in awhile lol It'll be interesting to hear the newly recorded version,to see how this track evolved.
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Reply #771 posted 03/21/08 2:54am

SoulAlive

Has anyone found a way to remove all the talking from this "Miles Away" video clip? I am dying to hear this song!!! lol
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Reply #772 posted 03/21/08 6:03am

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VinnyM27 said:

Now let's all join forces and fight the real enemy...Mariah Carey!


falloff I love the diva wars!! lol
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Reply #773 posted 03/21/08 6:12am

SoulAlive

ehuffnsd said:

VinnyM27 said:



Is one of those far out places Detroit? If not, Madonna is being a real See You Next Tuesday! I don't understand how she went from always playing the Palace, including 2 sold out nights on the DWT (one recorded for HBO). Michigan isn't doing so well, but I'm sure that a tour from her will be sold out!

I finally heard "4 Minutes" on the radio. It played on the dance channel like I expected but I think it is accessibe enough for Top 40. What pisses me off is that they only played the 3 minute version that seems to be missing a whole lot! I heard a fuller version (which also seems to be missing a chunk). The dance channel sometimes plays nine minutes mixes off stuff (same for the disco channel which will sometimes break out 10 min+ 12" tracks). The edit doesn't do the song justice. Actually, most of her singles that are cut down for radio end up taking out good stuff.


don't forget that sometimes the logisitics of a tour prevent them from going to every city they may want to go to.

Madge may not be excluding Detroit on purpose but it may not fit in the schedule




I noticed that,she's doing a different type of tour this time.Usually she tours duing the summer months (June,July,August,then wraps it up in September).This time,she's planning to go out at the end of the year,then continue the tour into the New Year.That's unusual for Madonna.I have a feeling that she's also gonna play some unusual places that she hasn't played before.Mexico is seriously being discussed right now.Australia is already confirmed (she hasn't played there since 1993!).I wouldn't be surprised if she played Texas this time,lol.

I would say that Detroit isn't out of the question.Maybe she'll try to do a Birthday show there?
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Reply #774 posted 03/21/08 6:14am

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SoulAlive said:

TOUR UPDATE: TICKETS GO ON SALE MAY 2ND???!!


shocked omfg omg dead

WTH, I thought the tour wasn't until fall/winter?! The Confessions tour started in May and was announced in February! So we can expect the new tour to begin in August or so? eek
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Reply #775 posted 03/21/08 6:19am

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"The Beat Goes On" (demo version).Haven't heard this in awhile lol It'll be interesting to hear the newly recorded version,to see how this track evolved.

eek No comment about that horrible voice of hers, but I've got to point something out. I doubt if any of you have ever noticed it, but I'll share my observation with you. Madonna has this habit which is a classic symptom of phoniness. Both in interviews and in lyrics she has a habit of speaking in stock phrases as if she invented them herself. In this song you've got "Always the bridesmaid, never the bride", in Four Minutes you had "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". We've also had "To know you is to love you", "Nothing is what it seems", etc. In interviews she does it all the time. It's like she actually thinks these cliches sound impressive and original. I think if she ever had an original thought it would give her a heart attack.

Now that Janet WACKson has given up songwriting Madonna is truly the weakest lyricist in the business.
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Reply #776 posted 03/21/08 6:25am

SoulAlive

CandaceS said:

SoulAlive said:

TOUR UPDATE: TICKETS GO ON SALE MAY 2ND???!!


shocked omfg omg dead

WTH, I thought the tour wasn't until fall/winter?! The Confessions tour started in May and was announced in February! So we can expect the new tour to begin in August or so? eek



I keep hearing conflicting reports.Some folks say the tour will begin in late summer (August),while other sources say it won't start until November confuse
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Reply #777 posted 03/21/08 6:29am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

"The Beat Goes On" (demo version).Haven't heard this in awhile lol It'll be interesting to hear the newly recorded version,to see how this track evolved.

eek No comment about that horrible voice of hers, but I've got to point something out. I doubt if any of you have ever noticed it, but I'll share my observation with you. Madonna has this habit which is a classic symptom of phoniness. Both in interviews and in lyrics she has a habit of speaking in stock phrases as if she invented them herself. In this song you've got "Always the bridesmaid, never the bride", in Four Minutes you had "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". We've also had "To know you is to love you", "Nothing is what it seems", etc. In interviews she does it all the time. It's like she actually thinks these cliches sound impressive and original. I think if she ever had an original thought it would give her a heart attack.

Now that Janet WACKson has given up songwriting Madonna is truly the weakest lyricist in the business.



Oh please,this is pop music we're talking about here lol Those lyrics aren't great,but nobody is really writing amazing lyrics anymore.
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Reply #778 posted 03/21/08 6:59am

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midnightmover said:


eek No comment about that horrible voice of hers, but I've got to point something out. I doubt if any of you have ever noticed it, but I'll share my observation with you. Madonna has this habit which is a classic symptom of phoniness. Both in interviews and in lyrics she has a habit of speaking in stock phrases as if she invented them herself. In this song you've got "Always the bridesmaid, never the bride", in Four Minutes you had "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". We've also had "To know you is to love you", "Nothing is what it seems", etc. In interviews she does it all the time. It's like she actually thinks these cliches sound impressive and original. I think if she ever had an original thought it would give her a heart attack.

Now that Janet WACKson has given up songwriting Madonna is truly the weakest lyricist in the business.



Oh please,this is pop music we're talking about here lol Those lyrics aren't great,but nobody is really writing amazing lyrics anymore.

Madonna is one of the worst. And what's more important is that she speaks, thinks and writes other people's ideas and genuinely doesn't know how corny that is. "Always the bridesmaid, never the bride"?? Come on, man, that's just lazy. In interviews she does it all the time. It's almost pathological. I don't expect her fans to notice of course. We all know what they're like, but to any sophisticated person it really shows how prosaic her mind is. And any artist worth their salt has a built-in cliche detector. Madonna doesn't.
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Reply #779 posted 03/21/08 7:08am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:




Oh please,this is pop music we're talking about here lol Those lyrics aren't great,but nobody is really writing amazing lyrics anymore.

Madonna is one of the worst. And what's more important is that she speaks, thinks and writes other people's ideas and genuinely doesn't know how corny that is. "Always the bridesmaid, never the bride"?? Come on, man, that's just lazy. In interviews she does it all the time. It's almost pathological. I don't expect her fans to notice of course. We all know what they're like, but to any sophisticated person it really shows how prosaic her mind is. And any artist worth their salt has a built-in cliche detector. Madonna doesn't.


As much as I love Madonna,I really don't listen to her albums to find deep,amazing lyrics.She's not Stevie Wonder or Bob Dylan.She's a dance/pop artist and let's be honest,you won't find alot of earth-shattering lyrics in that genre.Seriously,if you wanna hear amazing songwriting,you pretty much have to stick with the 60s and 70s artists.We live in an era where a song like "My Humps" wins Grammys.It's like you almost have to "dumb down" your music just to get a hit.
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