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Reply #90 posted 06/09/05 11:30am

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I bet Mihcael wanted the whole world to talk about this trial. I know americans havn't been on it anywhere near as much as the oj trial. I know Mike wants this to be talk of the whole universe. Still shocked he didn't release an album a few months ago.

UK, most surprisenly, virtually completely lost interest by a few weeks.

Mike thinks the world revolsed around him. All them loony fans at the courthouse proberly get Michael thinking there are many more as into the trial as they are.

Mike gotta get his head out of his ass and drop all this "look at me, I need ur sympathy, Iam still bigger then jesus" crap he carries around with him. Does he act like that at neverland, u bet he doesn't!

He gotta get away from neverland too. He is living in a world where only himself matters. Not his kids, not his friends (does he have any true friends?) and his home is pretentious beyond belief. He is sooooo soupped up on himself, it just stinks of arrogence now.



This is what I think too...
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Reply #91 posted 06/09/05 11:37am

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lol
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Alot of people say Micheal looks like a woman now but from this picture he would be UGLY ASS woman! ill
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Reply #92 posted 06/09/05 11:50am

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muttley said:

krayzie said:



Ok, I'll re phrase my point :

Dragging yourself to court like your back hurts and then stopping and doing a 180 to wave to your fans doesn't mean you are guilty...

Plus you have no proof that he doesn't have no back pains...

And you can't take it as a proof of his guilt, sorry


Im sorry too, but Mike is guilty as shit, no matter if he is doing backflips and James Brown splits. He is guilty of putting himself into this ridiculous position instead of growing up and not having the common sense to realize that even having little boys in your bed or bedroom is a dumb thing to do.

All of these kids are not lying. And even if they were, I wouldnt have paid 24 million of my money to anyone especially if I didnt touch you.

Mike is a fuck up.....


Mutts



Once again, it's your point of view... But you can't convict someone because he puts himself in "such position"...

I agree with you that he's definitely fucked up, and need therapy BUT if there is no proof or any evidence of his guilt, he has to be acquitted...


Michael jackson like anybody else needs a fair jugdement... No matter how fucked up he is , or how horrid he looks...

But I understand that you have some reasonable doubts...
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Reply #93 posted 06/09/05 11:51am

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Ok, I'll re phrase my point :

Dragging yourself to court like your back hurts and then stopping and doing a 180 to wave to your fans doesn't mean you are guilty...

Plus you have no proof that he doesn't have no back pains...

And you can't take it as a proof of his guilt, sorry

Krayzie being nice to Mike again... biggrin



William J. Wagener
THURSDAY, June 9th, 2005

William J. Wagener does a weekly Libertarian TV show in Santa Maria,

California since October 1, 2000, which is sometimes bicycled around the nation. Libertarians believe in individual freedoms and rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Don't be surprised if Court is only half day, to give both sides to work out a "deal" for stipulated agreement, and slow down the Jury from rushing back with a NOT GUILTY on all felonies counts. Same on Friday, then both sides have all week end. Once again, William J. Wagener does not KNOW Michael J. Jackson, and only just bought my first Jackson cd less than a week ago [Jackson 5]. But I know injustice and a Kangaroo Court which hops every where but for the truth... when I see one... and clearly this is one.

WEDNESDAY, June 8th, 2005

[Personal Note: Did I hear fans chanting at the Miller St. Fence when I walked out from a Press conference, "On Second Thought, On Second Thought, On Second Thought,

On Second Thought... Michael's Innocent!!!"

Sheriff's were not too pleased, but sounded good to my ears. Or was I just delusional?

Well, lets see if I hear it again tomorrow. Sounded so much better than "Steve Corbett sucks". [ Steve is a local columnist who writes for the "good Ol boys" paper I only use for cat litter, since they seem to have trouble with real Truth.]

First, I report the Truth as best as I can discern it. The verdict should have come in today. Instead something else happened. I would not be surprised if the Jury is dismissed and sent home, BEFORE they bring in a verdict.

How, Why? Suppose for a minute [cause I am not telling you a fly on the Judges chamber wall told my fly on my wall anything, but maybe the flies did. What would they have said]. so, suppose for a minute that two jurors were decided that Michael must be found guilty of at least one felony. Remember, we are just "supposing" here, for the sake of argument.

But 4 jurors were just as decided Michael Joe Jackson is Not Guilty of any of these
charges, because [like I said many weeks ago] there is a Mountain of "reasonable doubt", that they just can NOT get beyond. That is 4-2 in Michael's favor. That is better than the other way. [2-4] Then consider that 6 others are just NOT decided on the counts that the stubborn two, are sure about, but most of those 6 are leaning toward "NOT GUILTY", but just not sure. Then suppose the 8 alternates are bored, thinking they will never get to vote anyway, and some admitted that they had not paid as much attention as they should have.

So.... Then consider, that 1 juror has already made a deal for a book, 2 others have secretly agreed to do "exclusive" TV/radio interview. And WHAT if one juror had friends who were close friends of one of the District Attorneys, and had in open violation law, court instructions, informed the D.A. or one of them, that the Jury was leaning more toward acquittal than conviction.

WHAT have you got? - - - - - - - - - Not just a hung Jury?

Even if the Defense and Prosecutors offered their answers on a point of question from the Jury, for the Judge to report what the Judge thinks the best answer is to the Jury...

what do you have??

You got a three ring circus, orchestrated by a Judge Rodney S. Melville, who does
not want to be over ruled on an appeal. Not even on a misdemeanor!! This will be the last big case Melville sits on, and Melville does NOT want his reputation, which is not all that great anyway, to be marred by a Mega Trial gone horribly wrong, because he gave the Prosecutors every break, except the Sheriff naked photos of MJ's private parts, [Thank you Jesus!] [because it would be HIGHLY prejudicial at this point and prove nothing]. [ Should I give you the details of the ugly Divorce of Melville vs Melville from long ago? If we can hear all the false (i.e. Unsubstantiated) malicious accusations about Michael, why should Judge Melville unpleasant divorce from the mother of his children not be reported - maybe that would give us an insight into the Judges mind ]

And insight might help explain why he rules more for Prosecutors when Objections happen than for the defense.

SO o o o o o. What does this mean?

PROBABLY a stipulated settlement. Good Bye Jury and thanks for your time.

So suppose, now, the Persecutors, ahemmm, I mean the Prosecutors know that the Jury is 2-1 in favor of acquittal on all counts. What do you do? You tell the judge, your not happy with the Jury not coming back with a Guilty verdict [maybe]. And say,

HEY, we will offer a deal to the Defense, we want you to make it difficult for them to say "NO DEAL". Suppose the Prosecutors, said, "Hey Mr. Sanger & Mesereau, we will agree to 1 count felony, and 1 misdemeanor, and 10 days in jail and Probations for a couple of years for your MJJ client." "Then we all go home, and MJJ know he'll only do time for 10 days and be back at Neverland before the end of the month." Or words to that effect.

But the prosecutors are in disagreement between themselves on how hard to push Defense for a felony stipulated, because they know Mr. Mesereau is no idiot and will likely , politely tell them to shove the deal up where the sun never shines in each of them. So they "Government" prosecutors expect a counter offer from the Defense, which will be one misdemeanor "alcohol to a minor under 14" or "contributing to the delinquency of a Minor" with no jail time, NO sexual intent attached, and NO probation.

This could be, good for Michael. No one could call him what the evidence did not
prove him to be.... a homosexual or Asexual pedophile. And furthermore, first time offenders for this never go to jail, in my experience. It would be over, with a fine, and maybe 6 months unsupervised "probation". Michael's Attorneys could announce, "WE WON. We said the Sexual molestations charges were bunk and would not be proved and WE were Right"

Prosecutors, would announce, "We won, we got him to admit and stipulate to a crime."

"Michael contributed to the delinquency of several minors," Mr. Zonen would boast.

[ I am thinking, yeah right. You wasted millions of Tax dollars to prove kids under 14 tasted wine and had a good time at Neverland. such a good time their delusional, accusatory mother who commits perjury on welfare forms, had trouble getting them to leave.] By the way, don't kids in France drink wine with 1 meal every day from age 6 or 7 on up? Can you hear the uproarious laughter coming from France, Mr. Zonen?


Aha. But Judge Rodney Ssssss. Melville, also WINS. With a Stipulated agreement,

THAT agreement can NOT be appealed, in my legal mind, because both sides agreed to it.

And then Judge Melville can NOT be Over-ruled. And Melville does not have to deal with badly behaved Jury members, the fact they most all got the joke about the Gavel, because they in fact, dis-obeyed the admonition to NOT watch TV or read Newspapers about the trial. And with stipulated agreement, all that mess can be ignored.

Now I am not saying the fly on the Wall of the Courts chambers told my fly exactly those words. B U T, if the flies have good hearing, what would be the END result.

1. Michael knows he won't be doing 5, 10 or 20 years in state Prison. His stress will supposedly come down. MJ goes on with his life and his fight to keep his kids.

2. Prosecutors can claim some Moral High ground [which they certainly don't deserve]

3. Rodney Ssssss Melville, and Tom Sssssneddon can be openly buddies again.

4. MJ's possible "Abusive and false Prosecutions" lawsuit has less legs to stand on.

[me, personally, I hope Michael hangs tough, and rolls the dice for NOT GUILTY
on all charges .... I believe NOW even MORE than 3 days ago, he will be found NOT GUILTY of ANY felony.]

Too late, and Attorney Thomas Mesereau, Jr. , is no idiot. He has won the day, if MJ can hang tough long enough. Prayer works miracles. Now is time if you truly believe to pray.

So, don't be surprised if we see a "deal" cut. Jury goes home with Coffee cup to
memorialize their "service", and make their deal. Mr. Ssssneddon, will get hired by Sony after his retirement next year as something or other. Books by Ron S, Aphrodite Jones, several jurors and maybe even myself will be written. Michael Joe Jackson, will mend his ways. i.e. Lock up the wine better. Only let his own kids sleep in his bed, if a Custody Judge in L.A. Superior Court does not strip him of Paris and Prince at the first opportunity.

[ "Michael watch my 90 minute documentary on "Fathers without Rights, Babies for Profit"]

It just may help you clue in on how bad it can get in so called "family court". Be nicer to

Debbie Rowe. She is still the bio-Mom, and the kids will one day say, "Who is my mom".

A bus load of FANS arrived last night from else where, Rose Garden Motel still has a few vacancies. I recommend the GuestHouse Inn on So. Broadway, a short walk from Vons SuperMarket.

I expect the Judge has the attorneys coming back into courtroom by 1pm PST and Verdict to be read by 2pm, which will be NOT GUILTY based on lack of CREDIBLE WITNESSes.

Up date later, on June 12 "Michael Jackson Innocent" Celebration,

good one lilgish. Thanks
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really donĀ“t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #94 posted 06/09/05 12:36pm

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I bet Mihcael wanted the whole world to talk about this trial. I know americans havn't been on it anywhere near as much as the oj trial. I know Mike wants this to be talk of the whole universe. Still shocked he didn't release an album a few months ago.

UK, most surprisenly, virtually completely lost interest by a few weeks.

Mike thinks the world revolsed around him. All them loony fans at the courthouse proberly get Michael thinking there are many more as into the trial as they are.

Mike gotta get his head out of his ass and drop all this "look at me, I need ur sympathy, Iam still bigger then jesus" crap he carries around with him. Does he act like that at neverland, u bet he doesn't!

He gotta get away from neverland too. He is living in a world where only himself matters. Not his kids, not his friends (does he have any true friends?) and his home is pretentious beyond belief. He is sooooo soupped up on himself, it just stinks of arrogence now.


Then you should read this from cnn:

http://edition.cnn.com/20...index.html
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #95 posted 06/09/05 2:31pm

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^I still love the guy's work (although his '60s-'80s work much moreso) and believe he's innocent but his ego is sickening. That giant statue of himself that was floated down the Thames River, those fascistic "Brace Yourself" openings he always slaps on at beginning of each of his video DVD collections, that painting of himself he has in his home where he's in the place of Christ in "The Last Supper"... how does anyone actually appreciate that? barf
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Reply #96 posted 06/09/05 3:35pm

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squiddyren said:

^I still love the guy's work (although his '60s-'80s work much moreso) and believe he's innocent but his ego is sickening. That giant statue of himself that was floated down the Thames River, those fascistic "Brace Yourself" openings he always slaps on at beginning of each of his video DVD collections, that painting of himself he has in his home where he's in the place of Christ in "The Last Supper"... how does anyone actually appreciate that? barf



he what? The Last Supper?

See, you mj fans need to get on this man for shit like this...damn.... disbelief
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Reply #97 posted 06/09/05 4:16pm

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yeah mike started being a little too over the top with the self praise thing...
first of all...nobody called him the KING OF POP...he made that title...and theres a million clips and shows where u see the fainting CRAZED diehard fans around the world..MICHAEL PRODUCED and chooses all the shots in these things !!! hes a bit out there...but i love him..he just needs some help !!!
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Reply #98 posted 06/09/05 5:41pm

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prettymansson said:

yeah mike started being a little too over the top with the self praise thing...
first of all...nobody called him the KING OF POP...he made that title...and theres a million clips and shows where u see the fainting CRAZED diehard fans around the world..MICHAEL PRODUCED and chooses all the shots in these things !!! hes a bit out there...but i love him..he just needs some help !!!


I don't think you realize how many REAL fans Michael has. I mean the guy has fans that praise him outside his trial EACH day even when he isn't there! I think the fans "produce" themselves.

I hope he is found totally innocent of all these silly charges..the "accuser's" family is the wacko ones and out for $.
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Reply #99 posted 06/09/05 5:46pm

lilgish

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welcome to the org jasonstar
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Reply #100 posted 06/09/05 5:49pm

sosgemini

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jasonstar said:

prettymansson said:

yeah mike started being a little too over the top with the self praise thing...
first of all...nobody called him the KING OF POP...he made that title...and theres a million clips and shows where u see the fainting CRAZED diehard fans around the world..MICHAEL PRODUCED and chooses all the shots in these things !!! hes a bit out there...but i love him..he just needs some help !!!


I don't think you realize how many REAL fans Michael has. I mean the guy has fans that praise him outside his trial EACH day even when he isn't there! I think the fans "produce" themselves.

I hope he is found totally innocent of all these silly charges..the "accuser's" family is the wacko ones and out for $.



silly charges?

im sorry...i think mj is innocent..but we should never NEVER EVER FUCKING EVER call a claim of child molestation "silly"...

its just not healthy for our nation..


and cha know what...i find it sillier that mj continued to sleep with boys after his first bigtime settlement....and if his adoring fans called him out o this maybe he would wake up and act like a man instead of a freaky santa clause slash peter pan slash farah fawcett....

im here today to say, the fans are also to blame for mj's current out of this world mentality...

stop feeding the beast...or be superior at least...
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Reply #101 posted 06/09/05 6:34pm

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sosgemini said:

jasonstar said:



I don't think you realize how many REAL fans Michael has. I mean the guy has fans that praise him outside his trial EACH day even when he isn't there! I think the fans "produce" themselves.

I hope he is found totally innocent of all these silly charges..the "accuser's" family is the wacko ones and out for $.



silly charges?

im sorry...i think mj is innocent..but we should never NEVER EVER FUCKING EVER call a claim of child molestation "silly"...

its just not healthy for our nation..


and cha know what...i find it sillier that mj continued to sleep with boys after his first bigtime settlement....and if his adoring fans called him out o this maybe he would wake up and act like a man instead of a freaky santa clause slash peter pan slash farah fawcett....

im here today to say, the fans are also to blame for mj's current out of this world mentality...

stop feeding the beast...or be superior at least...



It ain't ever the fans fault. Jacko made himself what he is today, not the fans. I hate Jacko's crazy fans. They are weird people, but blame jacko for being out of touch with everything.

If anything, jacko is to blame for fucking up these freaks. He portrays himself like a bigger then jesus figure, some "wacko's" believed it and thats thanx to Michael.

Michael should just fuck those neverland bums that hang outside his house. I think he needs to get some. And they are willing
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Reply #102 posted 06/09/05 6:40pm

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shutup bitch, u realize I'm in Santa Maria right now wink
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Reply #103 posted 06/09/05 6:48pm

lilgish

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great fans



Praying

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Reply #104 posted 06/09/05 6:54pm

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Nice tits
[Edited 6/9/05 18:55pm]
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Reply #105 posted 06/09/05 11:31pm

LightOfArt

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shutup bitch, u realize I'm in Santa Maria right now wink


http://www.drudgereport.com/

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU JUNE 09, 2005 16:03:43 ET XXXXX

JACKO REPORTER IN FEAR OF 'CRAZED' FAN; COURT ISSUES RESTRAINING ORDER

Diane Dimond and COURT TV have obtained a court-issued restraining order against the leader of a Michael Jackson fan contingent, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The 20-year old male from Knoxville, Tennessee has been yelling and allegedly "threatening" Dimond for weeks, sources tell DRUDGE.

"It's turned ugly," a media source explains.

He was served with papers today on the Santa Maria court campus.

The fan has been chanting "bitch, bitch, bitch" as Dimond works and files her reports.

Media Row is separated from the fans by a fence and only about 10 feet.

Jackson supporters believe Dimond has been operating as the prosecutor's unofficial advocate and mouthpiece.

I knew you were there cool
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Reply #106 posted 06/10/05 1:37am

cranshaw62

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MJ has chakra problems, not back problems....u guys should do more googling on whats really happening to Mike cool


Yeah. Chakra did a great remake of "Got To Be There" I wish she and Rufus would reunite.
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Reply #107 posted 06/10/05 1:43am

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thesexofit said:

sosgemini said:




silly charges?

im sorry...i think mj is innocent..but we should never NEVER EVER FUCKING EVER call a claim of child molestation "silly"...

its just not healthy for our nation..


and cha know what...i find it sillier that mj continued to sleep with boys after his first bigtime settlement....and if his adoring fans called him out o this maybe he would wake up and act like a man instead of a freaky santa clause slash peter pan slash farah fawcett....

im here today to say, the fans are also to blame for mj's current out of this world mentality...

stop feeding the beast...or be superior at least...



It ain't ever the fans fault. Jacko made himself what he is today, not the fans. I hate Jacko's crazy fans. They are weird people, but blame jacko for being out of touch with everything.

If anything, jacko is to blame for fucking up these freaks. He portrays himself like a bigger then jesus figure, some "wacko's" believed it and thats thanx to Michael.

Michael should just fuck those neverland bums that hang outside his house. I think he needs to get some. And they are willing



I don't think all the blame is on him. It's actually very easy, the more he and the fans are made fun of and ridiculed, the more they stick together. It's us and against them. It's a vicious circle really. And the more your neighbour tells you how much Prince sucks, the more you're in here.
Also, people should be assumed to have minds on there own. Their not stupid lambs.

Then again, in the US people get shit loads of money because they wanted to dry their cat in the microwave. Now the cat is dead, but the manufacturer didn't warn them in the manual.
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Reply #108 posted 06/10/05 1:47am

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BTW, this "bigger like Jesus"....
I think in that aspect he is, or can be, very humble. As a person, he is very shy and humble. It's just the entertainment part of it that's overblown.
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Reply #109 posted 06/10/05 3:39am

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cranshaw62 said:

lilgish said:

MJ has chakra problems, not back problems....u guys should do more googling on whats really happening to Mike cool


Yeah. Chakra did a great remake of "Got To Be There" I wish she and Rufus would reunite.

lol
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Reply #110 posted 06/10/05 6:16am

Floppy

Just fyi, everybody.

A fake email is going around claiming MJ has attempted suicide, & it carries a virus.


from: http://news.bbc.co.uk

"A Windows e-mail virus is trying to ensnare victims by claiming that Michael Jackson has attempted suicide, say computer security firms.
The message hopes to catch people's attention because of the huge interest in the on-going child abuse trial.

The fake message contains a web link that supposedly links to Mr Jackson's suicide note. But anyone clicking on the link will have their PC invaded by a virus that gives others access to that machine.

The message was first discovered early on 10 June and already anti-virus companies have seen many copies of the e-mail circulating online.

Like many recent Windows viruses the malicious message does not use a technical trick or loophole to infect machines. Instead it relies on tricking users into infecting themselves. The badly-spelled message - its subject line is "Suicidal attempt" - claims that the suicide attempt was in reaction to the stress of the trial. A verdict is due in the case soon.

Those who click on the link in the fake e-mail to see the supposed suicide note will get a message suggesting that the site hosting it is busy. "That may not surprise people who think it might contain genuine breaking news about Michael Jackson," said Carole Theriault, security consultant for security firm Sophos.

Ms Theriault said the busy message is a diversionary tactic because, unseen, a virus is being downloaded on to a user's machine. The virus downloaded is a variant of the Borobt-Gen trojan which gives the virus' creator a backdoor into infected machines.

"The sick minds behind viruses and other malware often exploit celebrity names and news stories in an attempt to infect as many people as possible," said Ms Theriault.

She urged users to be wary of clicking on links or opening attachments in unsolicited e-mail messages.



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Reply #111 posted 06/10/05 6:19am

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Thanks Floppy. smile
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Reply #112 posted 06/10/05 6:23am

Floppy

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Thanks Floppy. smile


you are welcome, Cloudbuster m'lad. wink
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Reply #113 posted 06/10/05 6:28am

Cloudbuster

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smile
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Reply #114 posted 06/10/05 6:31am

Floppy

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smile


pig
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Reply #115 posted 06/10/05 6:34am

Cloudbuster

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Floppy said:

pig


boff
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Reply #116 posted 06/10/05 6:37am

Floppy

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Floppy said:

pig


boff


lol

i've seen this before. i know how this carries on. razz
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Reply #117 posted 06/10/05 6:40am

Cloudbuster

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Floppy said:

lol

i've seen this before. i know how this carries on. razz


You should do more films like that. smile
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Reply #118 posted 06/10/05 6:44am

Floppy

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Floppy said:

lol

i've seen this before. i know how this carries on. razz


You should do more films like that. smile


i would if i could, but i'm in a mental institution. smile
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Reply #119 posted 06/10/05 6:45am

LightOfArt

Cloudy is the biggest whore on org. Anyone left you havent shagged yet cloudy?
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