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Thread started 01/28/05 9:40am

thesexofit

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american music awards......blacks boycott George Michael

George Michael got some hate by blacks at the american music awards in 1988 when he beat Bobby Brown, Keith sweat etc to win soul album of the year? Should he of been in that catorgory in the first place?

Did u agree that George should not of even been nominated for soul album of the year? U reckon he won because whites saw a white guy in a black catorgory so deliberately voted for him just because of his skin colour?

Anyone remember this? Whats ur view on it now? I understand why some black people were pissed off, but "faith" was a soul album right?.....the backing vox, the rhythm of the tracks.....all black influence!
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Reply #1 posted 01/28/05 9:44am

thedoorkeeper

I don't remember that happening - most have missed that one.
I do remember when he won the Soul Train award
& Dionne Warwick threw a hissy fit.
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Reply #2 posted 01/28/05 9:50am

Universaluv

confuse From my recollection the brothers were digging George Michael back then. Father Figure and One More Try were getting all kinds of airplay on R&B stations (still do on some of the 'oldie' R&B stations.)

It was impresive back then cause there really weren't any crossover artists coming from Top 40 pop to R&B as successfully as he did. I doubt many people if any voted for him just cause he was white. It probably didn't hurt that he stuck out like a sore thumb in that category, but his talent was undeniable.



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Reply #3 posted 01/28/05 9:58am

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Universaluv said:

confuse From my recollection the brothers were digging George Michael back then. Father Figure and One More Try were getting all kinds of airplay on R&B stations (still do on some of the 'oldie' R&B stations.)

It was impresive back then cause there really weren't any crossover artists coming from Top 40 pop to R&B as successfully as he did. I doubt many people if any voted for him just cause he was white. It probably didn't hurt that he stuck out like a sore thumb in that category, but his talent was undeniable.



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Reply #4 posted 01/28/05 10:06am

thesexofit

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Gladys Knight was pissed off.....
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Reply #5 posted 01/28/05 10:08am

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I can't remember blacks hating on George Michael, ever. One thing I do remember is when he performed acapella on some show. It was him and about 3 or 4 female back up singers and they were in a circle around a microphone. It was such a good performance but I can't remember the song(s) or the show it was on. Since then I've longed to see him do an unplugged set.
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Reply #6 posted 01/28/05 10:12am

thesexofit

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JackieBlue said:

I can't remember blacks hating on George Michael, ever. One thing I do remember is when he performed acapella on some show. It was him and about 3 or 4 female back up singers and they were in a circle around a microphone. It was such a good performance but I can't remember the song(s) or the show it was on. Since then I've longed to see him do an unplugged set.


George just got criticized 4 it a bit, even though of course it was not his fault. It wasn't a major story, which is why I brought it up to get peoples views on it etc.....

U can understand how blacks could be a bit miffed at George winning. The soul album catorgory is one that blacks want the most.....they work hard 4 that and then a white guy comes along and takes it! U can see some anger surely?
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Reply #7 posted 01/28/05 11:49am

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I remember that.

Couldn't understand it since almost every R&B radio station in America was rockin' Geo.
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Reply #8 posted 01/28/05 12:01pm

Harlepolis

What did Dionne & Gladys say?
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Reply #9 posted 01/28/05 12:12pm

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Harlepolis said:

What did Dionne & Gladys say?

If I'm remembering correctly (it's been a while) it wasn't Gladys Knight. Dionne Warwick made some negative comment about George Michael winning the AMA award for R&B album for Faith. I don't recall exactly what she said, but I don't really pay much attention to her unless she's singing Burt Bacharach songs anyway.
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Reply #10 posted 01/28/05 12:15pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

Harlepolis said:

What did Dionne & Gladys say?

If I'm remembering correctly (it's been a while) it wasn't Gladys Knight. Dionne Warwick made some negative comment about George Michael winning the AMA award for R&B album for Faith. I don't recall exactly what she said, but I don't really pay much attention to her unless she's singing Burt Bacharach songs anyway.

lol

I do love me some Dionne and Burt B.
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Reply #11 posted 01/28/05 12:18pm

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JackieBlue said:

I can't remember blacks hating on George Michael, ever. One thing I do remember is when he performed acapella on some show. It was him and about 3 or 4 female back up singers and they were in a circle around a microphone. It was such a good performance but I can't remember the song(s) or the show it was on. Since then I've longed to see him do an unplugged set.



I saw that too. I think it was "Freedom 90" that they did and it was at either the AMAs or Grammys. I loved his Mtv Unplugged performance. I wonder why no album was released for it!?! confuse mad
The whole outrage about him being nominated and winning woot! for 'FAITH' back in 1988 came down to only one thing; racism. shrug
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Reply #12 posted 01/28/05 12:20pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

I don't remember that happening - most have missed that one.
I do remember when he won the Soul Train award
& Dionne Warwick threw a hissy fit.


falloff @ Dionne throwing a hissy fit!!!!! CLASSIC!!!!!
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Reply #13 posted 01/28/05 12:21pm

Harlepolis

JackieBlue said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


If I'm remembering correctly (it's been a while) it wasn't Gladys Knight. Dionne Warwick made some negative comment about George Michael winning the AMA award for R&B album for Faith. I don't recall exactly what she said, but I don't really pay much attention to her unless she's singing Burt Bacharach songs anyway.

lol

I do love me some Dionne and Burt B.


I hate that hypocrite match-lookin' heffa with passion mad

Always talking shit about somebody,,,,I still can't 4give her for the tacky shit she pulled on ALL of Hip-Hop/Rap Music over something she's already DOING.
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Reply #14 posted 01/28/05 12:22pm

Harlepolis

thedoorkeeper said:

I don't remember that happening - most have missed that one.
I do remember when he won the Soul Train award
& Dionne Warwick threw a hissy fit.


Speaking of Soul Train.

Remember when Whitney got booed th fuck out? OMG that dog disbelief lol
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Reply #15 posted 01/28/05 12:26pm

Martinelli

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Dionne should keep her trap shut & go grow a vegetable garden or something..
...Your coochie gonna swell up and fall apart...
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Reply #16 posted 01/28/05 12:30pm

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Chico1 said:

JackieBlue said:

I can't remember blacks hating on George Michael, ever. One thing I do remember is when he performed acapella on some show. It was him and about 3 or 4 female back up singers and they were in a circle around a microphone. It was such a good performance but I can't remember the song(s) or the show it was on. Since then I've longed to see him do an unplugged set.



I saw that too. I think it was "Freedom 90" that they did and it was at either the AMAs or Grammys. I loved his Mtv Unplugged performance. I wonder why no album was released for it!?! confuse mad
The whole outrage about him being nominated and winning woot! for 'FAITH' back in 1988 came down to only one thing; racism. shrug



aaaah, okay. That was a great thing. I questioned an unplug album too. Hope he does something in the U.S. for Patience or anything at this point.
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Reply #17 posted 01/28/05 12:54pm

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JackieBlue said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


If I'm remembering correctly (it's been a while) it wasn't Gladys Knight. Dionne Warwick made some negative comment about George Michael winning the AMA award for R&B album for Faith. I don't recall exactly what she said, but I don't really pay much attention to her unless she's singing Burt Bacharach songs anyway.

lol

I do love me some Dionne and Burt B.


She's not excatly the brightest blub. I mean, she crossed over doing some very white music, yet George can get screwed? Also, her lashing out at rap music when she's a weed fiend was, as Harlepolis pointed out, very hypocritical.
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Reply #18 posted 01/28/05 9:01pm

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i remember the second Motown special when basically a lot of White performers did a bunch of duets with Black Motown artists..George Michael sang "Love's in Need of Love" with Stevie Wonder and they brought the house down...Joe Cocker and Patti Labelle did You are So Beautiful to Me...Boy George did something i can't remember...anywhoo...it was a great show
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Reply #19 posted 01/28/05 9:05pm

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that can't be right cuz Faith was the first album by a white artist to top the black album charts.
so somebody had to be buying it!
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Reply #20 posted 01/28/05 9:18pm

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shhhhitt..



what a crock of shit...
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Reply #21 posted 01/29/05 3:36am

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Well, Dionne Warwick can peddle her psychic friends bullshit and duet with Elton John her way to the bank. George Michael has an INCREDIBLE voice, and no skin color is going to make me question whether he has 'soul'. IMO, Faith was not only THE pop album of 1988, it was also the soul, R&B,rock, dance album of 1988. He had the market cornered at that point.
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Reply #22 posted 01/29/05 9:56am

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But I wonder if the same people were bitchin' when Boz Scaggs' "Low Down" won a Grammy for Best R&B Song in 1976.
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Reply #23 posted 01/29/05 10:17am

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thesexofit said:


U can understand how blacks could be a bit miffed at George winning. The soul album catorgory is one that blacks want the most.....they work hard 4 that and then a white guy comes along and takes it! U can see some anger surely?
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U can understand them getting a bit miffed? You've got to be kidding me? Its called the soul album category, not the black sould album category.

If someone felt he should not be eligble, simply because of his colour, then its racism, pure and simple.
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Reply #24 posted 01/31/05 4:08am

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I recall Freddie Jackson making a big fuss over the fact that 'Faith' was Number One on the R&B album charts.He said "Just wait until my new album comes out" lol


I never understood why there was such a fuss anyway.'Faith' is,for the most part,an R&B album.George was heavily influenced by black artists.Songs like "Hard Day","Monkey" and "One More Try" are incredibly soulful songs.The fact that he's White shouldn't matter.Black radio stations went nuts over these songs,and his previous hit "Careless Whisper" is an R&B staple.
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Reply #25 posted 01/31/05 11:25am

heybaby

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I recall Freddie Jackson making a big fuss over the fact that 'Faith' was Number One on the R&B album charts.He said "Just wait until my new album comes out" lol


I never understood why there was such a fuss anyway.'Faith' is,for the most part,an R&B album.George was heavily influenced by black artists.Songs like "Hard Day","Monkey" and "One More Try" are incredibly soulful songs.The fact that he's White shouldn't matter.Black radio stations went nuts over these songs,and his previous hit "Careless Whisper" is an R&B staple.


that song is a classic and the whole cd is good.
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Reply #26 posted 01/31/05 11:49am

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heybaby said:

DavidEye said:

I recall Freddie Jackson making a big fuss over the fact that 'Faith' was Number One on the R&B album charts.He said "Just wait until my new album comes out" lol


I never understood why there was such a fuss anyway.'Faith' is,for the most part,an R&B album.George was heavily influenced by black artists.Songs like "Hard Day","Monkey" and "One More Try" are incredibly soulful songs.The fact that he's White shouldn't matter.Black radio stations went nuts over these songs,and his previous hit "Careless Whisper" is an R&B staple.


that song is a classic and the whole cd is good.


George Michael's Faith album is one of the best albums I've ever heard by anyone. I wore my cassette tape out in '88 and I bought the CD a few years ago. His voice is so soulful; dude is a phenomenal singer. Great album!!!
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Reply #27 posted 01/31/05 1:53pm

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Universaluv said:

confuse From my recollection the brothers were digging George Michael back then. Father Figure and One More Try were getting all kinds of airplay on R&B stations (still do on some of the 'oldie' R&B stations.)

It was impresive back then cause there really weren't any crossover artists coming from Top 40 pop to R&B as successfully as he did. I doubt many people if any voted for him just cause he was white. It probably didn't hurt that he stuck out like a sore thumb in that category, but his talent was undeniable.



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Well Keith Sweats "Make It Last Forever" and Bobby's "Dont Be Cruel" were much better than Faith in my opinion. I Want Your Sex, Monkey, Hard Day are not really soul records.

Faith was a good album, but there was more soul in Keith's and Bobby's records, plus they were more fun.
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Reply #28 posted 01/31/05 1:54pm

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UptownDeb said:

But I wonder if the same people were bitchin' when Boz Scaggs' "Low Down" won a Grammy for Best R&B Song in 1976.


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Reply #29 posted 01/31/05 2:16pm

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If I remember my history correctly it was Freddy Jackson (remember him?) who was personally offended by George's prominance on the R&B charts that year.
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