Camileyun said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

HA HA BINGO!

While we're on the subject (and I'm just throwing possibilities out there) how do we know a certain someone wasn't bringing the drugs from LA from Ps former connection, or whomever, just to stay in his good graces, and the freak out in the ambulance was more about possibly getting caught? When KJ asked P.where he got the drugs, he didn't want to rat her out in front of her. Going to the police and acting like a bimbo was just to cover her ass. She would hang out with P in his bedroom. Did she ever go in his bathroom and see his cache of enemas? The subject never came up during their 4am excursions to the store? Why was P keeping her around if he was celibate? For her witty repartee, like in the transcript? Just a thought, now I'll duck.

Then stating she 'knew nothing' , but yet made Prince promise her 'no more pills' and that he promised her he would 'get help'

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Camileyun said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: While we're on the subject (and I'm just throwing possibilities out there) how do we know a certain someone wasn't bringing the drugs from LA from Ps former connection, or whomever, just to stay in his good graces, and the freak out in the ambulance was more about possibly getting caught? When KJ asked P.where he got the drugs, he didn't want to rat her out in front of her. Going to the police and acting like a bimbo was just to cover her ass. She would hang out with P in his bedroom. Did she ever go in his bathroom and see his cache of enemas? The subject never came up during their 4am excursions to the store? Why was P keeping her around if he was celibate? For her witty repartee, like in the transcript? Just a thought, now I'll duck.

No need to duck, you're on to something very important, it makes perfect sense....his supplier was 'hiding' in plain sight, flying in every 2 weeks...the 'girlfriend' thing was a cover (she stayed in a hotel, remember? what girlfriend does that? PP wasn't big enough for both of them? there were no guest rooms there?)...no one ever believed he had a thing going on with her, def not his type and there's the celibacy thing and BTW, he was an opioid addict...not great for the libido. And then the icing on the cake: he OD's...and she's outta there...looking out for #1.

re: gf- when JH was asked by detectives 'what side of the bed she slept on'....she couldn't answer that straight. Sorry, that's a question that should be able to be answered immediately.

precioux said:

che777x said:

According to posts in Lipstick Alley and in the comments section of a YouTube video, Natalie Cole and a gospel singer (first name, Andre) are names of entertainers who died that are associated with JH.

Thanks for doing the footwork,che777x! Yes, the comments section on YT is where I found it as well, a long time ago

You're welcome. There's another bit of information on LA as to why P was supposedly up for 152 hours when he came from Moline and it does not look good for JH, and it may not be true, so I'm not going to post it here.

Camileyun said:

muchtoofast said:

Well if he allowed her to live with him she might get the wrong idea about the seriousness of the relationship. Getting her a hotel room is an unspoken way of saying “we’re not engaged” but it keeps her close enough to have fun and spend time with. They were lovers, no way was he celibate.

Actually, Bohdi is correct. Opiates kill libido. There are numerous stories on the internet regarding this subject...Google it. They didn't find any Viagra at PP that I'm aware of.

yes, it is a fact that opiates kill libido. In regards to libido enhancing prescriptions, none were found but they did find bottles of testosterone enhancing supplements. This was commented on when the docs/pics first came out

che777x said:

precioux said:

Thanks for doing the footwork,che777x! Yes, the comments section on YT is where I found it as well, a long time ago

You're welcome. There's another bit of information on LA as to why P was supposedly up for 152 hours when he came from Moline and it does not look good for JH, and it may not be true, so I'm not going to post it here.

orgnote me, I'm curious

precioux said:

Camileyun said:

In the transcript, when LE tells her that P got the pills from somewhere and that they are seeking the truth so this doesn't happen to anyone else, her response is: "Yeah, I wish I had..I wish I had more, I don't..I can't imagine where he got it. I..I really, it couldn't have been Kirk or Meron, it's like I don't know who else, I mean unless he had like a..I mean but then he would have to email the person like I don't even know." "Cause it's like how else is he going to get a hold, unless you know, cause he would phone..the phone, maybe it was a phone number, but um I have no idea." Btw, the LE had not mentioned Kirk or Meron during this part of the questioning. How about a simple "I have no idea where he got this stuff"?!!

Camileyum- thanks for not only stating what you remember, but pinpointing exacts and showing what pages you've referenced. It means a great deal.

precioux said:

Camileyun said:

muchtoofast said:

Well if he allowed her to live with him she might get the wrong idea about the seriousness of the relationship. Getting her a hotel room is an unspoken way of saying “we’re not engaged” but it keeps her close enough to have fun and spend time with. They were lovers, no way was he celibate.

Actually, Bohdi is correct. Opiates kill libido. There are numerous stories on the internet regarding this subject...Google it. They didn't find any Viagra at PP that I'm aware of.

It's funny as the seminal fluid contains natural opiates. A fun fact I read just last week in a very fascinating book titled 'The Holistic Human'

OMG...now we're going to need a 'who swallowed' thread.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

OMG...now we're going to need a 'who swallowed' thread.

Or, who shoulda swallowed.

PennyPurple said:

Don't mind me, I just remembered this fact when I read the "Opiates kill libido" posts here. It seems a funny contradiction that the libido gets killed by something that the male body contains even by nature.

Sorry if this was OT I just find it fascinating. I better shut up.

CatB said:

precioux said:

Camileyun said:

muchtoofast said: Actually, Bohdi is correct. Opiates kill libido. There are numerous stories on the internet regarding this subject...Google it. They didn't find any Viagra at PP that I'm aware of.

yes, it is a fact that opiates kill libido. In regards to libido enhancing prescriptions, none were found but they did find bottles of testosterone enhancing supplements. This was commented on when the docs/pics first came out

Most men need a testosterone refill when they get older. It's really no big deal for Prince to have that or even out of the ordinary.

Kirk and Meron were his assistants and did a ton of things for him. She isn't making some weird leap that serves as some kind of smoking gun here.

Camileyun said:

In the transcript, when LE tells her that P got the pills from somewhere and that they are seeking the truth so this doesn't happen to anyone else, her response is: "Yeah, I wish I had..I wish I had more, I don't..I can't imagine where he got it. I..I really, it couldn't have been Kirk or Meron, it's like I don't know who else, I mean unless he had like a..I mean but then he would have to email the person like I don't even know." "Cause it's like how else is he going to get a hold, unless you know, cause he would phone..the phone, maybe it was a phone number, but um I have no idea." Btw, the LE had not mentioned Kirk or Meron during this part of the questioning. How about a simple "I have no idea where he got this stuff"?!!

ChocolateBox3121 said:

SkipperLove said:

Fine, she didn't say anything publically or to the media. But she wasn't putting on a performance for some random ambulance driver or the stewardess/pilots of the rented plane etc. Her reactions were consistently described as frazzled and upset. NOt all of her actions after P's overdose make sense to us with our limited knowledge of the circumstances and P's weird relationship scenarios, but all the behaviors during the ordeal as described by people who were there do make sense.

precioux said:

SkipperLove said:

Are you sure its her and not some phony account? If you are sure, does she diss P? Does she seem unstable? I just clicked on a few of her clips on youtube. The comment sections literally have people accusing her of murder. Not just enabling, but first degree murder/assasination of both Prince and MJ. Maybe, this stuff is getting to her head. As for the transcripts, to me, they just read like someone freaking out, rattled, and trying to get her thoughts in order. Hard to read yes. But I noticed something--all the accounts by others of her behavior on the plane, on the tarmac, in the ambulance and at the hospital are consistently indicative of a worried, devastated and/or upset woman.

[Edited 7/29/18 22:42pm]

...that stayed mum.

Camileyun said:

CatB said:

Don't mind me, I just remembered this fact when I read the "Opiates kill libido" posts here. It seems a funny contradiction that the libido gets killed by something that the male body contains even by nature.

Sorry if this was OT I just find it fascinating. I better shut up.

I like learning new facts!

Maybe a bit OT, but I think it's fun! BTW, some female reproductive fluids contain them, too.

SkipperLove said:

Kirk and Meron were his assistants and did a ton of things for him. She isn't making some weird leap that serves as some kind of smoking gun here.

Camileyun said:

In the transcript, when LE tells her that P got the pills from somewhere and that they are seeking the truth so this doesn't happen to anyone else, her response is: "Yeah, I wish I had..I wish I had more, I don't..I can't imagine where he got it. I..I really, it couldn't have been Kirk or Meron, it's like I don't know who else, I mean unless he had like a..I mean but then he would have to email the person like I don't even know." "Cause it's like how else is he going to get a hold, unless you know, cause he would phone..the phone, maybe it was a phone number, but um I have no idea." Btw, the LE had not mentioned Kirk or Meron during this part of the questioning. How about a simple "I have no idea where he got this stuff"?!!

Agree.

Prince knew a lot of people. They may not have been in his inner circle but he knew people. For all we know it was like that Dr. D guy or the drug dealer Manuela referenced..some dude posed as a roadie, or holistic health specialist on the road who gave him a stash. P kept people in their compartmentalized places with their roles firmly in place. At times, he treated them like mushrooms (fed them shit and kept them in the dark.) I don't think she was as naive as some folks state but I do think he confounded and confused her and possibly Kirk to some degree as well. Meron, maybe knows the most because she had the purse strings.

Camileyun said:

SkipperLove said:

Kirk and Meron were his assistants and did a ton of things for him. She isn't making some weird leap that serves as some kind of smoking gun here.

It's just why bring them into the conversation at all (getting the onus off herself maybe?)?

SkipperLove said:

Camileyun said:

CatB said:

Don't mind me, I just remembered this fact when I read the "Opiates kill libido" posts here. It seems a funny contradiction that the libido gets killed by something that the male body contains even by nature.

Sorry if this was OT I just find it fascinating. I better shut up.

I like learning new facts!

Yes me too and I think that one's kinda cool.

The sperm in the seminal fluid of the man are foreign bodies in the woman and as such they would normally have to be attacked and removed by the immune system. Because this does not work in terms of reproduction the woman locally adjusts to the man's immune system. She morphs herself and creates a tolerable blueprint of him.

Prof. Dr. Johannes Huber ~ THE HOLISTIC HUMAN


The opiates in the semen help to "numb" the woman's anti-reactions and tolerate the man and his DNA.

This is also fascinating from a spiritual perspective and here we come full circle with Prince and his philosophy about sex.

Camileyun said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Most men need a testosterone refill when they get older. It's really no big deal for Prince to have that or even out of the ordinary.

Absolutely, it just doesn't fit with the whole celibacy claim, but we don't know how long it was lying around, either.

Testosterone supplements aren't just used for libido. It's a strength & muscle tone enhancer also used by body builders. Which I'm sure helped keep Prince in TIP TOP shape when he was on the W2A tour after being trained by KJ.

rednblue said:

Camileyun said:

CatB said: I like learning new facts!

Maybe a bit OT, but I think it's fun! BTW, some female reproductive fluids contain them, too.

Yes, totally makes sense. From what I gathered opiates can actually be found/produced in several areas of the bodies. As a natural painkiller for instance, hormones that are needed when someone gets wounded and things like that.

CatB said:

Camileyun said:

SkipperLove said:

Fine, she didn't say anything publically or to the media. But she wasn't putting on a performance for some random ambulance driver or the stewardess/pilots of the rented plane etc. Her reactions were consistently described as frazzled and upset. NOt all of her actions after P's overdose make sense to us with our limited knowledge of the circumstances and P's weird relationship scenarios, but all the behaviors during the ordeal as described by people who were there do make sense.

Very true. Surely she was upset about what happened, what a traumatic thing to witness, and made worse if you had something to do with it! Just a possibility.

So it's possible that JH supplied him with the pills? Also, I think it's kinda stupid from the police to ignore thing with these other artists dying when she was working with them.

ChocolateBox3121 said: