ChocolateBox3121 said:

"Rare to see him like that"?...not rare enough, I can't look...too sad.

PennyPurple said:

Good points. And the sheriff (?) seemed genuinely upset at the press conference after P. died.

PennyPurple said:

Lovejunky said:

You think ?

and yet they left his body UNCOVERED out in the open for over an Hour until TYka came and asked for it to be covered...

and they took a gazzilion photos and Video files that were later released for all the world to see !

There are MORE photos of Ps BODY that any other person in the Flipping History of CELEBRITY !!

Id hate to think what would have heppened if the disregarded his Privacy .

Whoa, hold on just a minute.

A LE officer never left Prince's side, they made sure that his privacy was protected. Even to the point of having a decoy vehicle when they transferred the body.

Tyka asked them to cover Prince when it was time for the family to see him, because SHE didn't want to see him, after she turned away they uncovered him for the family who wanted to see him.

He was left uncovered because it was an unattended death, at that point they were still investigating.

Yes, pictures were taken as they are at every crime scene or possible crime scene. Those same pictures were also counted when they had to go to a different dept, and counted to make sure none were missing when they came back.

Not a single picture leaked. They were released to the public, because that is the law for everyone, just as is the records.

LE officers even had their phones checked to make sure they didn't have any pictures of Prince on them.

They were respectful of him, and of his family and friends at the scene.

And actually in this day and age of social media, it's amazing to me that those pictures didn't leak. I also haven't heard where a single one of them have sold their story.

We need to thank our lucky stars that Prince didn't lay there longer then he did. Some crime scenes they lay there for days. (like the mass shooting in Vegas).

Thanks Penny...you hit the nail on the head again!

Camileyun said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I feel they did that because Prince was such a private person. It was rare to see him like that and they took full advatage of it. But he still looked great.

"Rare to see him like that"?...not rare enough, I can't look...too sad.

It was VERY therapeutic for me to see him like that. It gave me closure. Because he looked worry-free, at peace, & asleep.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

You're lucky and I'm sure others feel the same - wish I was one of them!

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Lovejunky said:

You think ?

and yet they left his body UNCOVERED out in the open for over an Hour until TYka came and asked for it to be covered...

and they took a gazzilion photos and Video files that were later released for all the world to see !

There are MORE photos of Ps BODY that any other person in the Flipping History of CELEBRITY !!

Id hate to think what would have heppened if the disregarded his Privacy .

I feel they did that because Prince was such a private person. It was rare to see him like that and they took full advatage of it. But he still looked great.

No they didn't. They did it because it was a crime scene. And it was an unattended death, which means there were no medical people there to witness the death. They treat those deaths as a crime scene until it is proven that it is not.

I've been at 2 death scenes, one was attended because the hospice nurse was there, luckily when my step father in law passed. One was unattended when my neighbor called me early in the morning screaming for me to come over, she found her 13 year old daughter dead in bed, the daughter had lots of medical problems and wasn't expected to make it to her 13th bday, but we celebrated her 13th 2 days before and 2 days after her 13th she died. Everybody that was there they treated as a suspect including me, and the immediately called the Dr who she went to since she was born, to get confirmation and immediatly confiscated all medicines and counted and measured them all out, to make sure nobody OD'd her. Pictures, the whole works. They interviewed us all in seperate rooms....they didn't wait for us to show up at the police station, they didn't let us go back home and trust us to come back later (Meron), they did it right then. So I think that they did do special things because it was Prince. And believe me the huge difference of an attended death and an unattended death.

[Edited 7/17/18 19:50pm]

PennyPurple said:

Oh my gosh...how sad. I'm sorry.
And you're right, they did what their jobs required them to do. They are not responsible for the laws in MN regarding releasing investigation records.
[Edited 7/17/18 19:59pm]

Camileyun said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I feel they did that because Prince was such a private person. It was rare to see him like that and they took full advatage of it. But he still looked great.

"Rare to see him like that"?...not rare enough, I can't look...too sad.

i just wonder what the reasoning was for releasing that. usually, when a celeb has photos come out postmortem, they were leaked by somone. bruce lee's death photo was had by someone bribing a hospital worker, i don't know how MJ's death photo was leaked, elvis had one from his casket by one of his cousins.

Camileyun said:

Not one person in Chanhassen, not even one, has come out and said they knew about Prince being an addict.

Oops, double post.
[Edited 7/17/18 22:26pm]

precioux said:

I'm in MN as well (altho I don't live "just down the street" from PP). He was most definitely respected by the community for the most part. Actually the individuals in closest proximity seemed to ignore him more than anything. He wasn't a "big deal" to those who lived in the immediate area because he had been a part of the community for so long. It was just business as usual for many folks. They respected his space and privacy. I don't believe he was at odds with his "hometown", and for sure not with LE. Prince didn't stir up trouble - at least not on purpose. LE never had any major issues with Prince or PP. He had a history of neglecting to pay, or being late to pay. He's been sued by different persons and/or companies to get what they believed he owed them. I don't think his residential community was particularly screwed over by Prince, nor was there an overabundance of hard feelings. Was any kind of (financial) business ever smooth sailing with Prince?

PeteSilas said:

Because folks ("fans") have been clamoring for it, demanding it. They want to know everything, they want to see everything. Especially members of prince.org.

Camileyun said:

PennyPurple said:

No they didn't. They did it because it was a crime scene. And it was an unattended death, which means there were no medical people there to witness the death. They treat those deaths as a crime scene until it is proven that it is not.

I've been at 2 death scenes, one was attended because the hospice nurse was there, luckily when my step father in law passed. One was unattended when my neighbor called me early in the morning screaming for me to come over, she found her 13 year old daughter dead in bed, the daughter had lots of medical problems and wasn't expected to make it to her 13th bday, but we celebrated her 13th 2 days before and 2 days after her 13th she died. Everybody that was there they treated as a suspect including me, and the immediately called the Dr who she went to since she was born, to get confirmation and immediatly confiscated all medicines and counted and measured them all out, to make sure nobody OD'd her. Pictures, the whole works. They interviewed us all in seperate rooms....they didn't wait for us to show up at the police station, they didn't let us go back home and trust us to come back later (Meron), they did it right then. So I think that they did do special things because it was Prince. And believe me the huge difference of an attended death and an unattended death.

[Edited 7/17/18 19:50pm]

Oh my gosh...how sad. I'm sorry. And you're right, they did what their jobs required them to do. They are not responsible for the laws in MN regarding releasing investigation records. [Edited 7/17/18 19:59pm]

SO interesting .......Minnesota Law.....

The recorded Tanscripts of Kirk, Judith,Tyka et al somehow managed to evade it,

Lovejunky said:

Yeah, what's up with that? Loophole in the law?

Camileyun said:

Lovejunky said:

SO interesting .......Minnesota Law.....

The recorded Tanscripts of Kirk, Judith,Tyka et al somehow managed to evade it,

Yeah, what's up with that? Loophole in the law?

must be

sonshine said:

PeteSilas said:

i just wonder what the reasoning was for releasing that. usually, when a celeb has photos come out postmortem, they were leaked by somone. bruce lee's death photo was had by someone bribing a hospital worker, i don't know how MJ's death photo was leaked, elvis had one from his casket by one of his cousins.

Because folks ("fans") have been clamoring for it, demanding it. They want to know everything, they want to see everything. Especially members of prince.org.

no they didn't, most of the people here were angry about the pics. I don't have a huge problem with it myself but I don't understand the logic behind it. I mentioned the other pics but the pic of tupacs autopsied body, elvis in the casket, bruce lee in the morgue were all unnofficial and paid for photos, these were from the actual authorities, i don't get it. I heard Chazz say the same thing, he's right about that if nothing else he says.

PeteSilas said:

sonshine said:

PeteSilas said: Because folks ("fans") have been clamoring for it, demanding it. They want to know everything, they want to see everything. Especially members of prince.org.

no they didn't, most of the people here were angry about the pics. I don't have a huge problem with it myself but I don't understand the logic behind it. I mentioned the other pics but the pic of tupacs autopsied body, elvis in the casket, bruce lee in the morgue were all unnofficial and paid for photos, these were from the actual authorities, i don't get it. I heard Chazz say the same thing, he's right about that if nothing else he says.

BAM !

It makes no sense that SO MANY Photos and FILES had to be released to the Public

at the end of the day,

'however they got out there"

Ultimately

its a good thing...

I got closure from those Photos,

Like ChocolateBox..

I looked at them many times

Ive sat with those photos for hours

They helped me say goodbye....

for hours huh? i don't want to judge..., i looked and i felt a little sick and of course sad. when you see a pic of anything dead, at least for me, you can't really see the essence of a person anymore, all the spirit and life is gone and it looks it. it's why people say "he (she) didn't look himself did he" at a funeral. then, god forbid, you get a fucked up embalmer and you get a rick james like look for your final appearance. I mean, it is a part of life, one we all have to face, so, i don't have a huge problem with it, but i don't see the point. as far as the investigation, maybe they gave that to us because they don't give autopsies in that state. the investigation wasn't really that thourough, there were a couple major things they fucked up on that could have cracked the case wide open, they fucked up.

Lovejunky said:

PeteSilas said:

no they didn't, most of the people here were angry about the pics. I don't have a huge problem with it myself but I don't understand the logic behind it. I mentioned the other pics but the pic of tupacs autopsied body, elvis in the casket, bruce lee in the morgue were all unnofficial and paid for photos, these were from the actual authorities, i don't get it. I heard Chazz say the same thing, he's right about that if nothing else he says.

BAM !

It makes no sense that SO MANY Photos and FILES had to be released to the Public

at the end of the day,

'however they got out there"

Ultimately

its a good thing...

I got closure from those Photos,

Like ChocolateBox..

I looked at them many times

Ive sat with those photos for hours

They helped me say goodbye....

PeteSilas said:

They didn't? Well, a lot of them didn't waste ANY time pouring over all the stuff that was released. If folks are so upset about it, the best way to get that across would be to make a stand and refrain from accessing all the files. I refuse to go there. If people aren't so interesred perhaps it would change current procedure. Idk but its a start.

my impresion was people weren't happy here about the pics, i wasn't talking about the files.

sonshine said:

PeteSilas said:

no they didn't, most of the people here were angry about the pics. I don't have a huge problem with it myself but I don't understand the logic behind it. I mentioned the other pics but the pic of tupacs autopsied body, elvis in the casket, bruce lee in the morgue were all unnofficial and paid for photos, these were from the actual authorities, i don't get it. I heard Chazz say the same thing, he's right about that if nothing else he says.

They didn't? Well, a lot of them didn't waste ANY time pouring over all the stuff that was released. If folks are so upset about it, the best way to get that across would be to make a stand and refrain from accessing all the files. I refuse to go there. If people aren't so interesred perhaps it would change current procedure. Idk but its a start.

PeteSilas said:

my impresion was people weren't happy here about the pics, i wasn't talking about the files.

sonshine said:

PeteSilas said: They didn't? Well, a lot of them didn't waste ANY time pouring over all the stuff that was released. If folks are so upset about it, the best way to get that across would be to make a stand and refrain from accessing all the files. I refuse to go there. If people aren't so interesred perhaps it would change current procedure. Idk but its a start.

I wasnt happy about the pics...

I was horrified actually...

Until I saw them..

and then..

somehow they became beautiful

For people complaining about people going thru the files, you're sure all over this thread a lot.

They are public records. Nobody from LE sold those pics or those records. They could have, Lord knows it's been done plenty of times with other stars. So yeah, I think LE protected Prince and his privacy, even after death.

PennyPurple said:

They did their job, but if by "protecting" you mean that they kept things hidden from the public to protect Prince's reputation, then there is no evidence for that.
I hope we are not now supposed to consider it an established trurh that "everyone in Chanhassen" new about Prince being addicted.

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

For people complaining about people going thru the files, you're sure all over this thread a lot.

They are public records. Nobody from LE sold those pics or those records. They could have, Lord knows it's been done plenty of times with other stars. So yeah, I think LE protected Prince and his privacy, even after death.

They did their job, but if by "protecting" you mean that they kept things hidden from the public to protect Prince's reputation, then there is no evidence for that. I hope we are not now supposed to consider it an established trurh that "everyone in Chanhassen" new about Prince being addicted.

I've never said anything about the people of Chanhassen, so don't try to put words in my mouth.

There is evidence that they (LE) protected Prince's privacy with regards to the investigation because NO pictures were leaked or sold, the only document that was leaked was the tox report, and we don't know if they leaked it or the ME leaked. And for someone as prolific as Prince, that's pretty darn good.

No, I don't mean they kept things hidden fom the public to protect his reputation, they protected his privacy by not leaking anything, again don't try to change the narrative with me. You are inserting words and thoughts into my statements, that aren't my words or thoughts.

I don't know why people can't understand my statements, I think I'm pretty plain spoken and speak loud and clear on this issue. Sometimes I think people try to find something wrong with my statements and twist them into their narrative, and it has nothing to do with my statement.

PennyPurple said:

I thought you were supporting Bodhitheblackdog's opinion. Cool that you are not.

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

I've never said anything about the people of Chanhassen, so don't try to put words in my mouth.

There is evidence that they (LE) protected Prince's privacy with regards to the investigation because NO pictures were leaked or sold, the only document that was leaked was the tox report, and we don't know if they leaked it or the ME leaked. And for someone as prolific as Prince, that's pretty darn good.

No, I don't mean they kept things hidden fom the public to protect his reputation, they protected his privacy by not leaking anything, again don't try to change the narrative with me. You are inserting words and thoughts into my statements, that aren't my words or thoughts.

I don't know why people can't understand my statements, I think I'm pretty plain spoken and speak loud and clear on this issue. Sometimes I think people try to find something wrong with my statements and twist them into their narrative, and it has nothing to do with my statement.

I thought you were supporting Bodhitheblackdog's opinion. Cool that you are not.

? Bodhi hasn't said anything wrong.

[Edited 7/18/18 7:04am]

PennyPurple said:

? "I now wonder if (even sub-consciously) they didn't bring their investigative 'A game' because Prince was long known to them to be an addict and they saw his death as sad but inevitable.

It's not like Prince wasn't well-known in Chanhassan. People talk...and in the same vein LE may have hurried or glossed over the 'investigation' to protect their Home Town Hero because to dig deep into his addiction and long spiral down would be so heartbreaking to everyone."
[Edited 7/18/18 7:15am]

sonshine said:

precioux said:

Correct me if I'm wrong (Rogifan?)-but I don't believe Prince was their hometown hero, until he was dead. He was at odds numerous of times with the city and was notorious for delaying paying taxes until litigation was threatened, etc.

I'm in MN as well (altho I don't live "just down the street" from PP). He was most definitely respected by the community for the most part. Actually the individuals in closest proximity seemed to ignore him more than anything. He wasn't a "big deal" to those who lived in the immediate area because he had been a part of the community for so long. It was just business as usual for many folks. They respected his space and privacy. I don't believe he was at odds with his "hometown", and for sure not with LE. Prince didn't stir up trouble - at least not on purpose. LE never had any major issues with Prince or PP. He had a history of neglecting to pay, or being late to pay. He's been sued by different persons and/or companies to get what they believed he owed them. I don't think his residential community was particularly screwed over by Prince, nor was there an overabundance of hard feelings. Was any kind of (financial) business ever smooth sailing with Prince?

Thank you for clarifying, Sonshine! I knew there were a few here that live in the vicinity and could correct me on that. Rogifan being a poster from the area too. paulludvig just stated that no one from Chanhassen claimed to have known of Prince's addicition. Can you clarify that as well? Thanks.

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

For people complaining about people going thru the files, you're sure all over this thread a lot.

They are public records. Nobody from LE sold those pics or those records. They could have, Lord knows it's been done plenty of times with other stars. So yeah, I think LE protected Prince and his privacy, even after death.

They did their job, but if by "protecting" you mean that they kept things hidden from the public to protect Prince's reputation, then there is no evidence for that. I hope we are not now supposed to consider it an established trurh that "everyone in Chanhassen" new about Prince being addicted.

Just curious, are you from Chanhassen?

So, I am in the process of making a google doc tying the evidence and results together:
https://docs.google.com/s...sp=sharing

I still have to finish the investigative report #2 and earrants and subpoena file. Maybe it will be complete by next week. Sorry,I got finals and papers to grade coming up!