renfield said:

Can we start a separate thread about the tapes on the shelves in the vault? I saw two from 85/86 called "Soul Sister" and "Fun Love" and a '92 era track called "Check It Out", none of which are listed on Princevault. Also you can make out master tapes for Take Me With U, Purple Rain, Moonbeam Levels, Blue Light, Neon Telephone, Spirit, Jungle Love and I Don't Wanna Leave U, a box marked "Vagina" from the Vanity 6 era, many Parade era masters, a tape labelled "Pop Life Outtakes", and dozens of live tapes. A lot to digest.

http://www.tmz.com/photos...s-01-jpg-1

[Edited 4/19/18 16:56pm]

I also saw "Neon Telephone", and "Uptown outtakes" (top shelf to the right in one photo). most are blurry, but I was able to find the photos on TMZ's server and save them.

lrn36 said:

Pretty much confirms everything I thought. Prince declining looks and weight loss all line up with the effects of opioid addiction. My question is why would illegal dealers lace fentanyl into vicodin. Isn't that a sure fire way of killing a potential repeating client? Most drug dealers want to keep their users alive and using.

The dealers don't know, either. These drugs come from China or big labs around the world. Those who produce them sell them to the dealers as the real thing.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said:

Dr. K and his son had nothing to do with it. Nothing was administered by them.

No one knows that for sure

Yes, we do. Dr. K. stayed in California, so it's not him with the candlestick.
His son had ONE pill and never saw Prince alive.
So it's not him in the parlor.

Time to drop the conspiracies. That act is stale.

GimmeThat said:

Horrible that video and photos of him after death have been released. I don’t understand why anyone would want to see that. I can’t imagine what his family and friends - the people he loved - must be feeling.

I wonder if they knew all the photos/videos would be released?

laytonian said:

PennyPurple said:

Off the street like I've been saying for 2 years.

He traveled the world. They could have been bought anywhere and carried back by private jets.

BUT my question has always been: with the amount of drugs found at Paisley in his suitcase and other locations, WHY DID HE NEED A PRESCRIPTION ON 7/14?

Did Kirk or the doctor want him only on real drugs?
This is all so tragic, accidental, preventable.

My guess would be they wanted him on a controlled substance, as opposed to street drugs (which are uncontrolled and untested, don't know what you're getting). A few Oxy are not going to kill him, Fentanyl on the other hand...

PennyPurple said:

Lovejunky said:

SO for two years we have been told Prince was found INSIDE the elevator and

NOW TMZ tells us he was found IN FRONT of the DOOR ???

No the police video shows it all. It was outside of the elevator and it doesn't look to me that he had been moved. I'm no investigator or mortician but it looks like he was NOT moved.

WHat Im saying Penny is that up until NOW

every single news item has reported that he was found INSIDE the elevator

Yes the video shows him outside...

poppys said:

GimmeThat said:

Horrible that video and photos of him after death have been released. I don’t understand why anyone would want to see that. I can’t imagine what his family and friends - the people he loved - must be feeling.

I wonder if they knew all the photos/videos would be released?

Are photos of dead celebrities or people in general made public? Are pictures of Tom Petty's body in his hotel room circulating orr Whitney Houston in the bath tub? I just don't remember this kind of stuff being posted on network news or online.

rogifan said:

Can someone explain why this needs to be released to the public? What is the public good being served here? Oh and to any media outlet showing video or photos of Prince’s dead body: F**K YOU.

People on the org have been begging for 2 years that the investigative file be released, and then when it is released they are outraged.


I said many times be careful what you wish for.

You dont get to pick and choose portions of an investigative file to be released.

Im on overload right now.

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

No the police video shows it all. It was outside of the elevator and it doesn't look to me that he had been moved. I'm no investigator or mortician but it looks like he was NOT moved.

WHat Im saying Penny is that up until NOW

every single news item has reported that he was found INSIDE the elevator

Yes the video shows him outside...

I know. For 2 years we believed that.

But from what I've seen unblurred, he wasn't moved.

endiadj said:

Why would he need to write opium on the bag? If only he had the combination he would know what it is. Strange.

Hasn't Prince referred to his music as "dope" in the past?

Mumio said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

VERY unsatisfactory. How on earth can they not find out how he got those pills? The fact they weren't what they said they were and Prince took them unknowingly is very serious and is manslaughter at best, murder at worst. They need to find who made and supplied them not just for Prince but for other people out there too at risk of dying of the same thing. I was hoping after 2 years the investigators would have at least have SOMETHING but it seems we are really no clearer than before apart from the fact Schulenberg broke the law by prescribing in another person's name. As a major breach of medical ethics, surely this should have more serious consequences than just fining him?!

I remember after the Jackson death, a commentator said that in America, it is the rich and the poor that get the worst healthcare. Poor because they can't afford it, Rich because they are surrounded by yes men on the payroll who will give them what they want, despite the health risks, in order to stay employed.

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It's very simple to conceal things if they are done on the dark web. That is most likely the reason why they can't find anything.

....and drugs are readily available in other countries. Look at every place Prince went in the last five years of his life.

Nothing showed up in any computers or phones. There weren't any computer geniuses at Paisley

PennyPurple said:

Police found a bag (looks like bank bag) in the Vault, with Opium written on the outside of it.

Only P had the code to the vault.

They showed the bag on the news.

[Edited 4/19/18 15:38pm]

But there was no Opium in it. That would have been listed in the search warrant results.

P was a wordsmith.

Who is Julia Ramadan? I'm listening to the PD interview with Larry Graham and he said she was 1 of his assistants. ?

PennyPurple said:

Lovejunky said:

WHat Im saying Penny is that up until NOW

every single news item has reported that he was found INSIDE the elevator

Yes the video shows him outside...

I know. For 2 years we believed that.

But from what I've seen unblurred, he wasn't moved.

If you configure your browser just right,you will see a lot more details, and yes, it is as suspected. Go "dark". There's plenty more.

[Edited 4/19/18 20:22pm]

Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

we dont know if he has been moved (maybe by paramedics) when those photos were taken

MIRvmn said:

Lovejunky said:

WHat Im saying Penny is that up until NOW

every single news item has reported that he was found INSIDE the elevator

Yes the video shows him outside...

They even said on the press conference the day he died that he was found in the elevator

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

sonshine said:

Layitdown said:

...it was right in front of r eye's I've followed him 4 more than 20 years...since his passing..I've gone back & watched a lot of videos, footage...live per4mances etc. Not really listening 2 the music...just watching more of him than I did when he was living. I've noticed a few things: - Prince was obviously in pain & it impacted a lot of what he did on stage. For example, the riding of the Walmart cart into the arena b4 the show. We now know why. - Being wheeled out on a hand truck during the Janelle Monae concert. We now know why. - There is a cell phone video of him walking through an airport in London from 2004 and he CLEARLY has a limp. - Welcome 2 America tour, he's standing on the piano singing, and when he would normally jump off. He sat down and slid off the piano. - Watching recently released concert footage of an aftershow in L.A, when he walks out on stage..dude is limping. NOT PIMPIN' ...limping favoring his hip. Even to the point where there is a stool in the center of the stage waiting 4 him 2 sit down on. - Riding his bike. The best exercise 4 him & that pain would be riding a bike and we saw him doing that a lot. Also riding a bike would keep him from walking as much. - Tavis Smiley interview from B.E.T (the first one), Tavis was clowning him 4 tripping over a monitor speaker that was on stage. I personally believe that's when he injured his hip. The heels and splits, jumping around on stage did not help. From what we now know...if U just go back and watch, the pain was right in front of us people, 4 a long time, I guess we (I) just never paid it much attention. I saw it as his sense of humour ...but he was hiding the pain obviously. SheilaE said that dude was in a lot of pain constantly. She also said that he wouldn't tell her things & they would fall out because he knew that she would do something about it. It was right in front of r eye's & that makes me feel some kind of way I guess...that nobody did anything about it. Not that I was searching 4 evidence of his pain, now it just stands out. Is it me looking 4 it, or have y'all noticed it 2? #NPG4Life

There was a lot we (and others) didn't know. That's how he wanted it. Even if we had picked up on these little things that were missed I personally would have easily dismissed it as natural for someone his age, etc. The limitations didn't seem extreme considering other factors. There is still a lot we don't know, and likely never will. I'm ok with that. I don't think he would be comfortable with everyone knowing his personal business. I can respect that. Its the least I can do for him at this point. Rarely a day goes by that I don't think about him, mourn his passing, empathize with his struggle, miss him, wish things had not ended the way they did. But it is what it is. I'm not ok with the circumstances of his passing, but I'm ok with letting him RIP. He would want us to remember the music. He wouldn't want us to remember the pain.

Thanks for this. Sometimes I feel like such a weirdo for thinking about someone I didn't know and having "issues" around this; and then I come here and sometimes, someone has just the right words to make me feel less "weird".

laytonian said:

PennyPurple said:

Police found a bag (looks like bank bag) in the Vault, with Opium written on the outside of it.

Only P had the code to the vault.

They showed the bag on the news.

[Edited 4/19/18 15:38pm]

But there was no Opium in it. That would have been listed in the search warrant results.

P was a wordsmith.

Yes, he was a wordsmith and a very good one at that. I often remember the times as a teen when I would listen to Prince, and my parents not knowing what he was really saying.

lrn36 said:

OK thanks. LG said that the only way to reach Prince was thru Kirk. They asked LG who else and he said Meron and Julia Ramadan. But it seemed like LG meant Julia as in recently. That is how LG had to communicate or get thru to Prince.

2004Fan said:

PennyPurple said:

Who is Julia Ramadan? I'm listening to the PD interview with Larry Graham and he said she was 1 of his assistants. ?

She was P's assistant/manager in the early 2010s.

disch said:

we dont know if he has been moved (maybe by paramedics) when those photos were taken

MIRvmn said:

Lovejunky said: They even said on the press conference the day he died that he was found in the elevator

there is a YouTube clip of the scene, showing him inside the elevator which is stopped, raised aboive the floor as though someone hit the mergency stop button

OMG have you read Omarr's statement when he keeps going back into the police station?

Or Judith's statement?

Or where Prince deposited $15k into Susan Moonsie and Brenda Bennett's accounts several days before his death?

I cant deal.

Just saw the video of Prince's dead body unblurred laying their lifeless... I can't believe Carver County just has these files able to view and download like that.

He had 4 patches on him, pain medication patches I assume and a blue tape around his right wrist. He really was suffering the last months of his life, he looked like he was in a terrible amount of pain.

Could see the body was in rigomortous, one of his hand was half a yellowish white color. Really sad to see.

For all those debating, in this video at least, he was outside of the elevator with the rug messed up, and he had no shoes on.

Really sad to see this. But that's life.

XxAxX said:

disch said:

we dont know if he has been moved (maybe by paramedics) when those photos were taken

there is a YouTube clip of the scene, showing him inside the elevator which is stopped, raised aboive the floor as though someone hit the mergency stop button

Hmm..interesting. I haven't seen that one.

iirc Prince was still using an email address that had been set up by julia ramadan and included her name in it. Perhaps that's why LG brought up her name?

PennyPurple said:

OK thanks. LG said that the only way to reach Prince was thru Kirk. They asked LG who else and he said Meron and Julia Ramadan. But it seemed like LG meant Julia as in recently. That is how LG had to communicate or get thru to Prince.

2004Fan said:

PennyPurple said: She was P's assistant/manager in the early 2010s.

XxAxX said:

disch said:

we dont know if he has been moved (maybe by paramedics) when those photos were taken

there is a YouTube clip of the scene, showing him inside the elevator which is stopped, raised aboive the floor as though someone hit the mergency stop button

No, that is not a real clip at all. That video is fake.