TrivialPursuit said:

The "Opium" bag could also have been a prop for a video. There was no mention of any substance other than fentanyl in the autopsy was there? And since the attorney broke down exactly how many of each pill was in Paisley Park and where exactly they were found, it would be odd for him not to mention "Oh yeah, there was also a giant bank bag of opium marked 'OPIUM'".

The newly released materials (as reported in the AP) say that in Moline "Prince was taken to a hospital for monitoring. A nurse told detectives that he refused routine overdose testing that would have included blood and urine tests....The nurse said when Prince was asked what he had taken, he didn’t tell the nurse what it was but said “someone gave it to him to relax.” The attorney in the press release said that his pills also weren't testedin Moline.

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So that means he (and everyone else) wouldn't have known what opioid caused his Moline OD and wouldn't have known that his drug supply was tainted with fentanyl.

BillieBalloon said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, but it was reported that Prince was at the hospital for several hours and his plane did not depart Moline until 11:30AM, the following morning (as I recall). That was more than enough time for Prince to be conscious of what was going on.

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It's also interesting that the M.E. concluded his death was due to Fentanyl Toxicity, which is only discovered if the M.E. is looking for it.

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If Prince overdosed on illegal Fentanyl in Moline, why wasn't he being investigated by the authorities for consuming an illegal drug?

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Beyond weird.

The police wont do amything if somebody has comsumed an illegal drug, they can only charge you with posession of said drug. Obviously the police didnt find anything illegal on Prince in Moline.

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renfield said:

The "Opium" bag could also have been a prop for a video. There was no mention of any substance other than fentanyl in the autopsy was there? And since the attorney broke down exactly how many of each pill was in Paisley Park and where exactly they were found, it would be odd for him not to mention "Oh yeah, there was also a giant bank bag of opium marked 'OPIUM'".

Exactly.

cloveringold85 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they were just released

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I really feel like shit right now. This has been such an upsetting day!

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I'm sorry Prince, that no one had your back. All looking for that $$$ in your name, but no friends to be found. Users and abusers is all he got.

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I'm not doing good right now.

Hugs Clover. I think we are all upset. If you need to talk I'm here.

TrivialPursuit said:

PennyPurple said:

It was a light blue bank bag.

Did I say anything opposite of that? Don't care about the color. But you are right. It was blue.

To the other person saying Prince wouldn't have done that - get out of the purple clouds. There were multiple bags they showed full of drugs. That was just one of them. Drug users, even those who secretly get prescription drugs, have a shame about it and hide it. Even more, if you have some mythological image of being 100% drug-free for 57 years.

Drug users don't mark their bags, this whole opium freak-out is ridiculous. All the other names on bags are not names of drugs. WTH? And they didn't FIND opium, as someone pointed out. His body could have been moved before the footage was taken, too.

This is what today told us. They don't think he knew it was fentanyl, the pills looked like vicodin. They don't know where he got the pills, so no one is being charged. The doctor is paying a fine and probation for writing an oxycodone script for Prince in Kirks name.

This has a timeline for today and there are some details.

http://www.startribune.co...480259573/

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disch said:

The newly released materials (as reported in the AP) say that in Moline "Prince was taken to a hospital for monitoring. A nurse told detectives that he refused routine overdose testing that would have included blood and urine tests....The nurse said when Prince was asked what he had taken, he didn’t tell the nurse what it was but said “someone gave it to him to relax.” The attorney in the press release said that his pills also weren't testedin Moline.

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So that means he (and everyone else) wouldn't have known what opioid caused his Moline OD and wouldn't have known that his drug supply was tainted with fentanyl.

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That's a great link. Thanks Disch. Found this on it.

A friend of Prince’s who authorities said helped the pop superstar obtain pain medication says he’s relieved not to be charged in Prince’s death.

That’s according to F. Clayton Tyler, an attorney for the Prince friend, Kirk Johnson. Tyler says Thursday’s announcement by a state prosecutor that no criminal charges would be filed in Prince’s death affirms Johnson’s innocence.

Tyler says Johnson continues to deny that he had anything to do with Prince’s death.

A search warrant in the case said Johnson asked a doctor to prescribe pain medication for Prince, and the doctor prescribed oxycodone in Johnson’s name. Federal authorities said earlier Thursday that the doctor had agreed to pay a civil penalty to resolve the case.

So it looks like kj is relieved....of course he is.

disch said:

This is .... um....

feeluupp said:

There also photos inside his legendary vault showing recordings, large sums of cash and recording equipment stacked on shelves.

One pic shows a white powdery substance spilled out on a table with a bent spoon placed next to it.

This photo is confusing and disturbing to me, and I can't even know what to say about the white substance... but for whatever it's worth that spoon with the cherry looks like a mini replica of the famous spoon and cherry sculpture outside the Walker Art Center in downtown Minneapolis.

OperatingThetan said:

If you look through the photo archive on TMZ you will find the OPIUM bag contained money. Just scroll along and end the speculation now.

yeah, it was a joke Money = Opium

It's looking more like full blown addiction and not soley pain management gone awry. He probably tried to ween himself off and suffered extreme, debilitating withdrawals. That's the thing with addiction, the drug becomes the user's medicine for feeling normal. Getting real help would mean putting his entire life on hold for a significant amount of time and I don't think he wanted to endure being away from his almost addictive need to create. It would also mean giving up his privacy and power, two thing he seemed to prize greatly. It's just a sad situation.

LadyLayla said:

prince couldn't have been that strung out or stupid as to take what od'd him the week before, it sounds intentional.

Well it sounds like case is closed amongst the authorities but we fans will never stop wondering how he got the tainted pills in the first place. This is all so very, very sad, we all know that Prince didn't talk about his personal business but I just wished he had someone to confide in sooner that he could have gotten the help he needed. I had it on those news outlets and thank goodness I changed the channel just in time so I didn't have to see those images of his deceased body!! At least he is no longer in pain though is the only solace I can make out of all of this and we will continue to celebrate his legacy and the great music he made.

luv4u said:

cloveringold85 said:

Now, they are bringing Sinead into this?

like wtf??!!

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Yes, did you see it? It's on TMZ, right below the Prince story........Sinead says:

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Eleven days after Prince overdosed, Sinead was interviewed over the phone by Carver County Sheriff's investigators ... who have just released audio of that conversation, and she says Prince commonly "used hard drugs."

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Sinead said, "I know this because I spent time with the man." She recalls it wasn't a pleasant experience, and claimed Prince "had been violent to a number of women in his life" ... some of whom she claims had to be hospitalized.

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She also claimed Prince told her the real reason he didn't want to release his famous "Black Album" was because he'd taken drugs, and had a vision of God ... who told him to shelve the project.

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She needs to stop with this bullshit. Prince never physically abused any women!! These people make me sick!!

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What's gonna be next -- a bunch of Prince's ex-lovers come out and say METOO!!

OnlyNDaUsa said:

OperatingThetan said:

If you look through the photo archive on TMZ you will find the OPIUM bag contained money. Just scroll along and end the speculation now.

yeah, it was a joke Money = Opium

strange joke, you gotta admit, no junkie would put the shit on a bag and write opium on it, still strange. maybe it was an inside joke to himself, who the fuck knows.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I really feel like shit right now. This has been such an upsetting day!

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I'm sorry Prince, that no one had your back. All looking for that $$$ in your name, but no friends to be found. Users and abusers is all he got.

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I'm not doing good right now.

Hugs Clover. I think we are all upset. If you need to talk I'm here.

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I'm sorry. There's so much I want to say right now, but I'm biting my tongue here. Thanks for the love, PP.

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It's just so sad, beyond words. Two years.

disch said:

The newly released materials (as reported in the AP) say that in Moline "Prince was taken to a hospital for monitoring. A nurse told detectives that he refused routine overdose testing that would have included blood and urine tests....The nurse said when Prince was asked what he had taken, he didn’t tell the nurse what it was but said “someone gave it to him to relax.” The attorney in the press release said that his pills also weren't testedin Moline.

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So that means he (and everyone else) wouldn't have known what opioid caused his Moline OD and wouldn't have known that his drug supply was tainted with fentanyl.

BillieBalloon said:

cloveringold85 said: The police wont do amything if somebody has comsumed an illegal drug, they can only charge you with posession of said drug. Obviously the police didnt find anything illegal on Prince in Moline.

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Okay, thanks. So much going on today -- the press conference & now this! I watched the full press conference a while ago. I'm on the west coast, so I am getting all this stuff later -- just reading all the posts here. It's so upsetting.

i agree. It's a little like having a scab that you thought had healed ripped off again. At least there's good stuff today too (the Nothing Compares 2 U release, the new estate website)

cloveringold85 said:

disch said:

The newly released materials (as reported in the AP) say that in Moline "Prince was taken to a hospital for monitoring. A nurse told detectives that he refused routine overdose testing that would have included blood and urine tests....The nurse said when Prince was asked what he had taken, he didn’t tell the nurse what it was but said “someone gave it to him to relax.” The attorney in the press release said that his pills also weren't testedin Moline.

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So that means he (and everyone else) wouldn't have known what opioid caused his Moline OD and wouldn't have known that his drug supply was tainted with fentanyl.

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Okay, thanks. So much going on today -- the press conference & now this! I watched the full press conference a while ago. I'm on the west coast, so I am getting all this stuff later -- just reading all the posts here. It's so upsetting.

Can we start a separate thread about the tapes on the shelves in the vault? I saw two from 85/86 called "Soul Sister" and "Fun Love" and a '92 era track called "Check It Out", none of which are listed on Princevault. Also you can make out master tapes for Take Me With U, Purple Rain, Moonbeam Levels, Blue Light, Neon Telephone, Spirit, Jungle Love and I Don't Wanna Leave U, a box marked "Vagina" from the Vanity 6 era, many Parade era masters, a tape labelled "Pop Life Outtakes", and dozens of live tapes. A lot to digest.

http://www.tmz.com/photos...s-01-jpg-1

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poppys said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Did I say anything opposite of that? Don't care about the color. But you are right. It was blue.

To the other person saying Prince wouldn't have done that - get out of the purple clouds. There were multiple bags they showed full of drugs. That was just one of them. Drug users, even those who secretly get prescription drugs, have a shame about it and hide it. Even more, if you have some mythological image of being 100% drug-free for 57 years.

Drug users don't mark their bags, this whole opium freak-out is ridiculous. All the other names on bags are not names of drugs. WTH? And they didn't FIND opium, as someone pointed out. His body could have been moved before the footage was taken, too.

This is what today told us. They don't think he knew it was fentanyl, the pills looked like vicodin. They don't know where he got the pills, so no one is being charged. The doctor is paying a fine and probation for writing an oxycodone script for Prince in Kirks name.

This has a timeline for today and there are some details.

http://www.startribune.co...480259573/

[Edited 4/19/18 16:39pm]

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I watched the full press conference today. Attorney Metz explains the timeline of what happened to Prince. It started on April 7th, when Prince saw Dr. Shulenberg, complaining of back pain (Kirk made the call)..........

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It's been an overwhelming day, but here's the press conference today:

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Oh my. The texts have been released.

The link button to link this site is not working for me right now. Just go to theblast.com

https://theblast.com/photos/prince-text-messages-assistant-doctor-photos/

Edited to add, the texts show why Dr. S was there that morning. He was delivering the medical records so the Kornfields would have them. Thought it was safer to drive them over and PP didn't have a fax.

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my understanding per the press conference is that it's Minnesota law that all investigation files in closed cases are public. They're just making it easily accessible online to avoid being innundated with individual requests for access.

OperatingThetan said:

So the police have released all their investigative files to the media, including video of the scene of Prince's death? How is footage of Prince lying deceased outside of an elevator in the 'public interest'? Or audio of Sinead - a mentally ill woman - spouting forth more delusions?

Everything was released because no one was charged and the investigation will probably soon be closed. Read people, read.

kmama07 said:

LadyLayla said:

So did CBS, with a warning. I didn't know it was coming on because I was reading, then looked up. Still stunned.

Without blocking out his image?

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I can't believe CBS did that. I didn't see it.

cloveringold85 said:

luv4u said:

like wtf??!!

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Yes, did you see it? It's on TMZ, right below the Prince story........Sinead says:

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Eleven days after Prince overdosed, Sinead was interviewed over the phone by Carver County Sheriff's investigators ... who have just released audio of that conversation, and she says Prince commonly "used hard drugs."

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Sinead said, "I know this because I spent time with the man." She recalls it wasn't a pleasant experience, and claimed Prince "had been violent to a number of women in his life" ... some of whom she claims had to be hospitalized.

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She also claimed Prince told her the real reason he didn't want to release his famous "Black Album" was because he'd taken drugs, and had a vision of God ... who told him to shelve the project.

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She needs to stop with this bullshit. Prince never physically abused any women!! These people make me sick!!

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What's gonna be next -- a bunch of Prince's ex-lovers come out and say METOO!!

She can't be too crazy if she conviently left out the part where she said his eyes started glowing like he was posessed by the devil.

disch said:

i agree. It's a little like having a scab that you thought had healed ripped off again. At least there's good stuff today too (the Nothing Compares 2 U release, the new estate website)

cloveringold85 said:

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Okay, thanks. So much going on today -- the press conference & now this! I watched the full press conference a while ago. I'm on the west coast, so I am getting all this stuff later -- just reading all the posts here. It's so upsetting.

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It's too much for the human mind to comprehend; it's like a shock wave, all over again. I just feel numb right now with disbelief.

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Yes, I saw the good news about the release. Something positive, for a change.

I thought I heard the DA say that Prince was becoming antsy, I forget which day and had inquired about addiction symptoms on one of the visits to see Dr. S. The timeline they gave from 4/7 up until his death made it sound like it had been a short lived addiction. At that time, Prince was prescribed Clonidine. A short time after that KJ inquired since he was concerned about P's drug use. I listened to it three times...it is possible to become addicted in that time. It seems that Prince did not want to have a monkey on his back.

renfield said:

Can we start a separate thread about the tapes on the shelves in the vault? I saw two from 85/86 called "Soul Sister" and "Fun Love" and a '92 era track called "Check It Out", none of which are listed on Princevault. Also you can make out master tapes for Take Me With U, Purple Rain, Moonbeam Levels, Blue Light, Neon Telephone, Spirit, Jungle Love and I Don't Wanna Leave U, a box marked "Vagina" from the Vanity 6 era, many Parade era masters, a tape labelled "Pop Life Outtakes", and dozens of live tapes. A lot to digest.

http://www.tmz.com/photos...s-01-jpg-1

[Edited 4/19/18 16:56pm]

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Yes; it's a lot to take-in.