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Reply #330 posted 04/04/18 5:44pm

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PennyPurple said:

luv4u said:


What about that nut job Claire Elisabeth Elliott who claims to be his wife and now has brought the CIA into this lol

I'm surprised her name isn't on the list to receive the court documents. (yet). In fact I think a lot of these people shouldn't be on the list.



The judge declared her a total dingbat (there's an actual term that was used but I can't remember what it was...ISLIJAG will come along hopefully and put it up again) so they file her papers but ignore her otherwise.


ETA: frivolous litigant was the legal term lol http://www.mncourts.gov/m...ssions.pdf

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Reply #331 posted 04/04/18 6:37pm

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

I'm surprised her name isn't on the list to receive the court documents. (yet). In fact I think a lot of these people shouldn't be on the list.



The judge declared her a total dingbat (there's an actual term that was used but I can't remember what it was...ISLIJAG will come along hopefully and put it up again) so they file her papers but ignore her otherwise.


ETA: frivolous litigant was the legal term lol http://www.mncourts.gov/m...ssions.pdf

[Edited 4/4/18 17:48pm]


Amen! Frivolous litigant woot! Bet the judge was rolleyes and sheer torture just to read this booshyte lol


And what of this?? http://www.mncourts.gov/m...nce_10.pdf


I also thought hmmm

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Reply #332 posted 04/04/18 7:07pm

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luv4u said:

Mumio said:



The judge declared her a total dingbat (there's an actual term that was used but I can't remember what it was...ISLIJAG will come along hopefully and put it up again) so they file her papers but ignore her otherwise.


ETA: frivolous litigant was the legal term lol http://www.mncourts.gov/m...ssions.pdf

[Edited 4/4/18 17:48pm]


Amen! Frivolous litigant woot! Bet the judge was rolleyes and sheer torture just to read this booshyte lol


And what of this?? http://www.mncourts.gov/m...nce_10.pdf


I also thought hmmm



That's probably that other kook Jennifer Jeffers-or at least that's who someone else thought it was. lol



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Reply #333 posted 04/04/18 7:28pm

Lovejunky

morningsong said:

Lovejunky said:

We know that Prince signed over royalties from his last 4 Albums to Dreamcorps/VAn

We know that Prince favoured Tidal and was tight enough with JAY-Z to give Tidal exclusivity on certain releases, up until 4 days before he passed

We know the Phaedra was once the Manager of NPGMusicPublishing...

So logic should tell us that these three people would know more about what Prince watned to do than any of the "Hired Help"we now see representing his interests..

Given that Van and Phaedra now lead powerful companies that are trying to IMRPOVE BLACK Lives,

they are essentially Social Entrpreneurs.

And JAY-Z is one of the SEED Investors in Phaedras latest Venture "Promise"

Social ENtrpreneurs seek to redustribute wealth in a "Circular Fashion"

rather than a hierarchical way which is common to all other Entrpreneurial ventures.

THis means that all wealth accumulated is distributed amongst the wider community

and as the wealth increases so to do the number of grass roots stakeholders.

In essense Social ENtrpreneurs seek to uplift the greater community

where as entrpreneurs Generally divert the funds UP the Pyramid

towards the managaement.

Prince was all about helping people in the end,

His recent Interview with "Jester'Gives us a clue as to what he had in mind in regards to Peer to Peer distribution...

None of this would sit well with the Estate becasue it would mean that most Revenue accumulated

would not stay within the so called FAMILY

but rather would leak outwards.

We dont know the exact outcome yet of whats going on with TIDAL and the Estate..

but look at it like this...

If JAY-Z has something solid that gives TIDAL Distribution rights,

Royalties would be accumulated and distributed in a similar way that Jay Z has just given 3 million to Phaedras lastest Venture.

Rocnation is also involved in Van Jones "LoveArmy" Movement

I believe this is what Prince wanted...

For his music to generate money that funds social ventures

WHoever is managing things at the moment has not understood proplery what he wanted

OR WORSE

GREED has blinded them..

I am thrilled that Jay-Z, Phaedra and Van are all holding hands.

I am watching this with great interest.

I have been a consultant for Social Entrpreneurs for over 20 years.

WHen I learned that Prince signed over his Royalties to Dream Corps

I got a very clear picture of what he is trying to do.

Wasting all this money and bickering between siblings

tells me point Blank The estate is being grossly mishandled

Where you be getting this info?

What info in specific are you asking about ?

Assigning Royalties to Dreamcorps ?

You can find that at the US Copyright office

Regarding Phaedras New COmpany and Jayz Investment in it ?

Its on her LinkdIn

Rocnation backing Lovearmy and VAN Jones ? Its on Dreamcorps website

Everything I have stated is publically available

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Reply #334 posted 04/04/18 8:38pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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luvsexy4all said:

could any of this prove it wouldve been MORE beneficial to some if he were dead????

Dont turn the Estate thread into a murder/conspiracy thread.

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Reply #335 posted 04/04/18 8:41pm

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Lovejunky said:

Phaedra is hooked up with Roc Nation

https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/19/jay-zs-roc-nation-and-first-round-capital-invest-3-million-in-bail-reform-startup-promise/

Very interesting..

Its seems that Both She and VAN Jones are very tight with Jay Z

Given that Phaedra was as close to Princes Business Manager as one could imagine

Ive always believed that JayZ/Tidal had a real deal with Prince...

Also Interesting to Note..

Phedra has Founded a company Promise Networks..

I can find a physical address, only that it runs from Oakland..

as Does Dreamcorps...

Coincidence

Me thinks not...

I can see that Phaedra and Van are contributing to Princes Legacy in their own ways.

I just cant understand why the Estate kicked the two of them off....

Perhaps they didnt want to see Princes money going anywhere except their own coffers...

Speculations runs amok.

Also, the Estate did not kick Phaedra and Van Jones off.

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Reply #336 posted 04/04/18 8:55pm

Lovejunky

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Lovejunky said:

Phaedra is hooked up with Roc Nation

https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/19/jay-zs-roc-nation-and-first-round-capital-invest-3-million-in-bail-reform-startup-promise/

Very interesting..

Its seems that Both She and VAN Jones are very tight with Jay Z

Given that Phaedra was as close to Princes Business Manager as one could imagine

Ive always believed that JayZ/Tidal had a real deal with Prince...

Also Interesting to Note..

Phedra has Founded a company Promise Networks..

I can find a physical address, only that it runs from Oakland..

as Does Dreamcorps...

Coincidence

Me thinks not...

I can see that Phaedra and Van are contributing to Princes Legacy in their own ways.

I just cant understand why the Estate kicked the two of them off....

Perhaps they didnt want to see Princes money going anywhere except their own coffers...

Speculations runs amok.

Also, the Estate did not kick Phaedra and Van Jones off.

I have simply done some research and put two and two together...

who around here does NOT Speculate ?

and Kicking them off....Its a figure of speech....

Phaedra is on record as being the manager of NPGMusicpublishing

SOmeone did something that she did not want to be party to..

Van offered his services as advisor and was declined due to "Conflict of Interest"

That conflict of Interest is that Dreamcoprs is a bneficiary of some of Princes royalties...

Yeah..they were kicked off

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Reply #337 posted 04/05/18 6:52am

morningsong

Lovejunky said:



morningsong said:




Lovejunky said:



We know that Prince signed over royalties from his last 4 Albums to Dreamcorps/VAn


We know that Prince favoured Tidal and was tight enough with JAY-Z to give Tidal exclusivity on certain releases, up until 4 days before he passed


We know the Phaedra was once the Manager of NPGMusicPublishing...



So logic should tell us that these three people would know more about what Prince watned to do than any of the "Hired Help"we now see representing his interests..



Given that Van and Phaedra now lead powerful companies that are trying to IMRPOVE BLACK Lives,


they are essentially Social Entrpreneurs.


And JAY-Z is one of the SEED Investors in Phaedras latest Venture "Promise"



Social ENtrpreneurs seek to redustribute wealth in a "Circular Fashion"


rather than a hierarchical way which is common to all other Entrpreneurial ventures.



THis means that all wealth accumulated is distributed amongst the wider community


and as the wealth increases so to do the number of grass roots stakeholders.


In essense Social ENtrpreneurs seek to uplift the greater community


where as entrpreneurs Generally divert the funds UP the Pyramid


towards the managaement.



Prince was all about helping people in the end,


His recent Interview with "Jester'Gives us a clue as to what he had in mind in regards to Peer to Peer distribution...



None of this would sit well with the Estate becasue it would mean that most Revenue accumulated


would not stay within the so called FAMILY


but rather would leak outwards.



We dont know the exact outcome yet of whats going on with TIDAL and the Estate..



but look at it like this...


If JAY-Z has something solid that gives TIDAL Distribution rights,


Royalties would be accumulated and distributed in a similar way that Jay Z has just given 3 million to Phaedras lastest Venture.


Rocnation is also involved in Van Jones "LoveArmy" Movement



I believe this is what Prince wanted...


For his music to generate money that funds social ventures



WHoever is managing things at the moment has not understood proplery what he wanted


OR WORSE


GREED has blinded them..



I am thrilled that Jay-Z, Phaedra and Van are all holding hands.



I am watching this with great interest.


I have been a consultant for Social Entrpreneurs for over 20 years.


WHen I learned that Prince signed over his Royalties to Dream Corps


I got a very clear picture of what he is trying to do.




Wasting all this money and bickering between siblings


tells me point Blank The estate is being grossly mishandled




Where you be getting this info?



What info in specific are you asking about ?


Assigning Royalties to Dreamcorps ?


You can find that at the US Copyright office


Regarding Phaedras New COmpany and Jayz Investment in it ?


Its on her LinkdIn


Rocnation backing Lovearmy and VAN Jones ? Its on Dreamcorps website



Everything I have stated is publically available





Ok I'll check some of this out. Might need some help though finding stuff.
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Reply #338 posted 04/05/18 7:10am

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PennyPurple said:

luv4u said:


What about that nut job Claire Elisabeth Elliott who claims to be his wife and now has brought the CIA into this lol

I'm surprised her name isn't on the list to receive the court documents. (yet). In fact I think a lot of these people shouldn't be on the list.

SHe was labeled frivlilous if I remember, so maybe she was removed due to that. The other individuals, like Brianna, still have appeals, so that may be why they are getting notices. As for Baron, I thought they settled their claim, so I am not sure why they are getting notices.

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Reply #339 posted 04/05/18 7:30am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Speculations runs amok.

Also, the Estate did not kick Phaedra and Van Jones off.

I have simply done some research and put two and two together...

who around here does NOT Speculate ?

and Kicking them off....Its a figure of speech....

Phaedra is on record as being the manager of NPGMusicpublishing

SOmeone did something that she did not want to be party to..

Van offered his services as advisor and was declined due to "Conflict of Interest"

That conflict of Interest is that Dreamcoprs is a bneficiary of some of Princes royalties...

Yeah..they were kicked off

Van had a conflict of interest because he was representing Tyka and Omarr as their attorney in the Estate.

He cant then turn around and be a Special Advisor to the Estate after representing heirs. That is called a conflict of interest.

Phaedra could not go on as Manager of NPG Publishing because P had passed.


No one was kicked off.

There has been no acknowledgement/documentation that Dreamcorps is the beneficiary of P's royalties.


[Edited 4/5/18 7:46am]

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Reply #340 posted 04/05/18 4:10pm

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nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

I'm surprised her name isn't on the list to receive the court documents. (yet). In fact I think a lot of these people shouldn't be on the list.

SHe was labeled frivlilous if I remember, so maybe she was removed due to that. The other individuals, like Brianna, still have appeals, so that may be why they are getting notices. As for Baron, I thought they settled their claim, so I am not sure why they are getting notices.



Thanks for the info.

Those that have appeals and/or claims will still get notices till their matter has been dealt with.


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Reply #341 posted 04/06/18 8:04am

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Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Speculations runs amok.

Also, the Estate did not kick Phaedra and Van Jones off.

I have simply done some research and put two and two together...

who around here does NOT Speculate ?

and Kicking them off....Its a figure of speech....

Phaedra is on record as being the manager of NPGMusicpublishing

SOmeone did something that she did not want to be party to..

Van offered his services as advisor and was declined due to "Conflict of Interest"

That conflict of Interest is that Dreamcoprs is a bneficiary of some of Princes royalties...

Yeah..they were kicked off

Not that it matters, but I don't trust Van Jones. He's been around / networking with politics and entertainment people trying land a gig. Now he's got deep pockets and Prince's brand to champion social justice. Just another lawyer chumming it up with Prince.

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Reply #342 posted 04/06/18 9:47am

luvsexy4all

arent all these frivilous inquiries just giving the lawyers a way to "steal" even more?

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Reply #343 posted 04/06/18 10:05am

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luvsexy4all said:

arent all these frivilous inquiries just giving the lawyers a way to "steal" even more?



What are "frivilous inquiries?"



If you are talking about the filings by Claire Boyd, et al, they are not represented by attorneys.

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Reply #344 posted 04/06/18 11:59am

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Rev said:

Lovejunky said:

I have simply done some research and put two and two together...

who around here does NOT Speculate ?

and Kicking them off....Its a figure of speech....

Phaedra is on record as being the manager of NPGMusicpublishing

SOmeone did something that she did not want to be party to..

Van offered his services as advisor and was declined due to "Conflict of Interest"

That conflict of Interest is that Dreamcoprs is a bneficiary of some of Princes royalties...

Yeah..they were kicked off

Not that it matters, but I don't trust Van Jones. He's been around / networking with politics and entertainment people trying land a gig. Now he's got deep pockets and Prince's brand to champion social justice. Just another lawyer chumming it up with Prince.

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yeahthat

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Reply #345 posted 04/06/18 1:18pm

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Rev said:

Lovejunky said:

I have simply done some research and put two and two together...

who around here does NOT Speculate ?

and Kicking them off....Its a figure of speech....

Phaedra is on record as being the manager of NPGMusicpublishing

SOmeone did something that she did not want to be party to..

Van offered his services as advisor and was declined due to "Conflict of Interest"

That conflict of Interest is that Dreamcoprs is a bneficiary of some of Princes royalties...

Yeah..they were kicked off

Not that it matters, but I don't trust Van Jones. He's been around / networking with politics and entertainment people trying land a gig. Now he's got deep pockets and Prince's brand to champion social justice. Just another lawyer chumming it up with Prince.

Van Jones is a cool person. I sat right next to him at a Prince tribute and he was crying his eyes out. He really loved Prince and it was genuine and still is.

What's wrong with him trying to make a career? He's very articulate with movie star looks.Why let that go to waste? He also spoke very highly of Prince on his debut talk show interview with JAY-Z.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #346 posted 04/06/18 1:27pm

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Rev said:

Not that it matters, but I don't trust Van Jones. He's been around / networking with politics and entertainment people trying land a gig. Now he's got deep pockets and Prince's brand to champion social justice. Just another lawyer chumming it up with Prince.

Van Jones is a cool person. I sat right next to him at a Prince tribute and he was crying his eyes out. He really loved Prince and it was genuine and still is.

What's wrong with him trying to make a career? He's very articulate with movie star looks.Why let that go to waste? He also spoke very highly of Prince on his debut talk show interview with JAY-Z.

It really bugged me that he did that REELZ TV Prince show. It was junk and slanderous. Honestly, how much do you need to get paid.

I am glad that your experience meeting him was nice, but the purple one is paying his bills now. He has to say nice things. Jughead.

I don't know him, but I've been watching for almost 10 years.

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Reply #347 posted 04/06/18 1:44pm

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Rev said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Van Jones is a cool person. I sat right next to him at a Prince tribute and he was crying his eyes out. He really loved Prince and it was genuine and still is.

What's wrong with him trying to make a career? He's very articulate with movie star looks.Why let that go to waste? He also spoke very highly of Prince on his debut talk show interview with JAY-Z.

It really bugged me that he did that REELZ TV Prince show. It was junk and slanderous. Honestly, how much do you need to get paid.

I am glad that your experience meeting him was nice, but the purple one is paying his bills now. He has to say nice things. Jughead.

I don't know him, but I've been watching for almost 10 years.

And EVERYBODY ELSE'S that was associated with him. rolleyes

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #348 posted 04/06/18 1:47pm

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I like Van. He's a good guy.

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Reply #349 posted 04/07/18 8:31am

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I'm still waiting for the Estate to start shipping official merchandise to Europe, I'm starting to think that they're never going to bother.
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Reply #350 posted 04/07/18 2:26pm

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Rev said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Van Jones is a cool person. I sat right next to him at a Prince tribute and he was crying his eyes out. He really loved Prince and it was genuine and still is.

What's wrong with him trying to make a career? He's very articulate with movie star looks.Why let that go to waste? He also spoke very highly of Prince on his debut talk show interview with JAY-Z.

It really bugged me that he did that REELZ TV Prince show. It was junk and slanderous. Honestly, how much do you need to get paid.

I am glad that your experience meeting him was nice, but the purple one is paying his bills now. He has to say nice things. Jughead.

I don't know him, but I've been watching for almost 10 years.

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Yup!! nod

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Some people go too far; like, you gotta draw the line somewhere, at some point!! disbelief

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Reply #351 posted 04/08/18 7:54pm

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Several documents were uploaded by the court on April 4 and 5 referencing an entertainment transaction. Serveral declarations including one from a David Dunn from Shot Tower Capital (an investment banking firm). Any thoughts?
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Reply #352 posted 04/08/18 8:37pm

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purplemist7777 said:

Several documents were uploaded by the court on April 4 and 5 referencing an entertainment transaction. Serveral declarations including one from a David Dunn from Shot Tower Capital (an investment banking firm). Any thoughts?



This was discussed on the previous page.

It may be a settlement with Tidal.

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Reply #353 posted 04/08/18 8:54pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



purplemist7777 said:


Several documents were uploaded by the court on April 4 and 5 referencing an entertainment transaction. Serveral declarations including one from a David Dunn from Shot Tower Capital (an investment banking firm). Any thoughts?



This was discussed on the previous page.


It may be a settlement with Tidal.


So they are going to settle with Tidal and enter into a new entertainment transaction with them?
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Reply #354 posted 04/09/18 7:36am

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purplemist7777 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



This was discussed on the previous page.

It may be a settlement with Tidal.

So they are going to settle with Tidal and enter into a new entertainment transaction with them?

We dont know if it is a Tidal settlement but Comerica has submitted a Motion to Approve Settlement Agreement to the Judge. Tidal is one of the last pending court cases other than Jobu.

Comerica has also submitted a Motion to Approve Entertainment Transaction to the Judge.

The Motion to Approve Entertainment Transaction may be huge business deal within the Estate. Comerica filed an Affidavit by Troy Carter; an Affidavit by Jason Boyarski (he is an attorney specializing in negotiating music-related transactions which involve the distribution and sale of master recordings); and an Affidavit by David Dunn (from Shot Tower Capital - an investment banking firm for media and entertainment companies).


Something is about to go down.


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Reply #355 posted 04/09/18 8:50am

feeluupp

So basically since his death we haven't got any music released by the estate yet except that John Nelson cd... Correct?

Prince4Ever & Purple Rain Deluxe the only two releases since his death, were previous contract releases with WB...

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Reply #356 posted 04/09/18 12:11pm

morningsong

feeluupp said:

So basically since his death we haven't got any music released by the estate yet except that John Nelson cd... Correct?

Prince4Ever & Purple Rain Deluxe the only two releases since his death, were previous contract releases with WB...



Correct. There was a serious wrench thrown in so now the tangles had/have to be untangled and then start over again.

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Reply #357 posted 04/09/18 12:23pm

feeluupp

morningsong said:

feeluupp said:

So basically since his death we haven't got any music released by the estate yet except that John Nelson cd... Correct?

Prince4Ever & Purple Rain Deluxe the only two releases since his death, were previous contract releases with WB...



Correct. There was a serious wrench thrown in so now the tangles had/have to be untangled and then start over again.

Rumor has it we might be getting 1999 Deluxe soon...

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Reply #358 posted 04/09/18 6:32pm

laytonian

Rev said:


It really bugged me that he did that REELZ TV Prince show. It was junk and slanderous. Honestly, how much do you need to get paid.

I am glad that your experience meeting him was nice, but the purple one is paying his bills now. He has to say nice things. Jughead.

I don't know him, but I've been watching for almost 10 years.

Van Jones and others gave interviews that were used in a product that they had not been told about.

Reelz is trash. Do you think they are honest with their rehashed garbage?
BTW, they're based in Minnesota. So they're screwing their own

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #359 posted 04/09/18 7:01pm

purplemist7777

Sharon tweeted this morning...needs the purple army’s help...legacy not being managed and handled well...Coamerica should be removed. I guess SNJ will oppose the new entertainment transaction?
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