Bodhitheblackdog said:

DD55 said:

Yes, I agree Van Jones is Shady too. Wasn’t VJ part of P's victory to get his masters back?

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As for charities: He says P approached him… the whole anonymous check story sounds like BS.

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As almost everyone here says…. P is not here to verify the information so why should we believe him/her? Why do people take VJ's word at face value when he’s been disgraced in the public eye, but we scoff at P’s ex’s - wives and girlfriends? We have VJ’s word only…. and he’s looking to further his own agenda.

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VJ is looking to play on the public love for P to lure you into donating to his, VJ's causes/charities. Can anyone find tax returns for these charities? I can’t. If you can find them, please send them to me.

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Not that new charities can’t be started but be cautious. Donate with your head as well as your heart.

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This guy is using P’s name from day 1 to further his own agenda. He’s as bad as LLM IMHO. Sorry for the rant.

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~DD55

I agree, DD55, it's almost like he thinks that BC he wears a purple tie every day like a uniform he deserves special treatment/consideration re the estste. Like Eric thinks he deserves music industry props 'cause he bagged Prince's ex-wife.

DD55, I am skeptical as h--- about charities and non-profits today. Did Prince investigate these entities or did he hope they would do well? I don't know.

laurarichardson said:

DD55 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

I agree, DD55, it's almost like he thinks that BC he wears a purple tie every day like a uniform he deserves special treatment/consideration re the estste. Like Eric thinks he deserves music industry props 'cause he bagged Prince's ex-wife.

Prince thought LLM was fantastic at one point. And yes Bod, I agree with the purple tie uniform, sheepish I’m waiting for a purple suit.

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Believe me, I have no issue with a liberal agenda, I’m a New York liberal democrat. But I’ve seen scams before (not accusing him of such) and I’m not as trusting as I once was years ago, now I need proof of the legitimacy and track record of a charity before I give a dime . Maybe there is a reason we have not seen Van and P together very much after the masters return business was concluded?

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As for #yeswecode. Not that particular charity, but others like it have been recently proven to not be worth as much as one would like. At the end of the day, when looking for a job, if you don’t have a degree from an accredited university, you’re ‘coding’ school skills rarely get recognized. Establishments like these have been shutting down recently for this very reason (I just recently heard on the news, I don’t have the source at my fingertips). i believe some type of scholarships program would be better. Better yet, let’s fix the school system from the get-go for every child. And, I have no problem paying a few extra dollars in taxes for a well educated population offering opportunity for every person who is interested. Education and innovation are the key to the future. *off my soap box now* Just my opinion.

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Oakland solar panels projects, a few years ago, under the Obama administration there were huge tax credits if you installed solar panels, as well as huge tax credits from the state of CA, and in addition, rebates. There is so much we don’t know, like were these people buying or leasing the solar panels? Leasing brings another set of rules. (Who was making money on the energy sold back to the grid?)

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Bottom line, someone was making money! Was it VJ? If these were ‘Oakland’ poor neighborhoods how were they dropping $20K and up for solar panels upgrading thier homes? (Remember the story goes P saw the panels on homes and wanted to help so he sent a check to VJ.) The whole story from listening to VJ… IDK…. not making sense to me.

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All my opinion

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~DD55

W hen you hire people you expect them to be professional so you are taking a chance. Unless you have a crystal ball and can see in the future you always run the risk of hiring someone who is incompotent.

LM serverd his purpose with getting P out of his deal with WB. So I guess P got what he wanted.

I provided the link to the IRS website to show that it is a legit charity.

Who said that these kids would not have a college degree along with coding skills? One does not cancel out the other.

How do you know Yes We Code does not or will give out Scholarships?

Businesses get tax credits all the t ime so what is your point? Was there an investigation into VJ Solar Panel project?

According to Van Jones Prince paid for people to have Solar Panels put on their homes in Oakland so it cost those people nothing and they trained some young people on how to put the panels up.

You come off as someone with a hugh amount of negativity with no facts to back up what you are saying. Anything that can provide a job skill now a days is a good thing and if kids are going to spead money on computer games why not learn how to make some and earn a living. Sorry not seeing anything negative. Of course I do not think earning a living is a bad thing.

1Sasha said:

DD55, I am skeptical as h--- about charities and non-profits today. Did Prince investigate these entities or did he hope they would do well? I don't know.

Prince gave Van the seed money to start Yes We Can Code so why would he investigate a non-profit he started?

laurarichardson said:

Rev said:

Van also did the "Reelz" Prince hour long scandal piece. Horrible

Andre and Owen were on that show and claimed they were lied to about the direction of the program.

You do not think that Van might have been misled as well. You fishing for something that is not there.

Hi Laura, I am not fishing. I don't like him.

Yes Prince was flawed, we're talking about representing the best things he brought to the world.

I don't believe Van has the intergrity to represent those intentions.

laurarichardson said:

Rev said:

Imagine someone saying Prince was a self-promoter, like it's a bad thing. Van loved Prince, it's pretty obvious. Why shouldn't he carry the banner?

poppys said:

Imagine someone saying Prince was a self-promoter, like it's a bad thing. Van loved Prince, it's pretty obvious. Why shouldn't he carry the banner?

Why can't Van do what he does/did with Prince? Who do you want to take up the charity mantle?

DD55 said:

poppys said:

Imagine someone saying Prince was a self-promoter, like it's a bad thing. Van loved Prince, it's pretty obvious. Why shouldn't he carry the banner?

It’s not the same thing. Prince was a self-promoter of and for himself, but Van is using Prince’s name to promote himself. He’s not carrying a banner, he’s using Prince’s name to benefit himself. He’s saying, (if we believe him) something to the effect that ‘Prince gave money to me, so you should too’, why would I trust him? Because he looks good in a purple tie?

Yeah, if Prince wanted Van to have money he would have put him in the will.

DD55 said:

poppys said:

Imagine someone saying Prince was a self-promoter, like it's a bad thing. Van loved Prince, it's pretty obvious. Why shouldn't he carry the banner?

It’s not the same thing. Prince was a self-promoter of and for himself, but Van is using Prince’s name to promote himself. He’s not carrying a banner, he’s using Prince’s name to benefit himself. He’s saying, (if we believe him) something to the effect that ‘Prince gave money to me, so you should too’, why would I trust him? Because he looks good in a purple tie?

Like it's strange for a charity to name drop, because people are so free giving to those in need.

So Prince gives M2 a million bucks for her ‘charity’ and she disperses it in dribs and drabs (5/10K ) to really worthy causes, then drops 50K on her lover (aka Smitty Boykins) and everyone is supposed to be impressed with how charitable they are? It wasn’t ‘charity’ that was driving him, it was the ability (actually promised through a love song ‘I’ll give you power”) to bestow power…and then take it away at will. Control, yet again. Despite his many charitable contributions, there were so many better ways to help people with the money he earned than letting lawyers, dodgy relatives and the tax man haul it away. If he knew he wasn’t going to need it in heaven, why didn’t he see the need around him? It’s a $200-300 MILLION DOLLAR PLUS, PLUS estate people…a $5,000 contribution to a worthwhile cause is pathetic. To those who say, it’s none of our business or he was really planning to do something meaningful and ran out of time …I say bullshit. He was an adult, a successful businessman and supposedly a man of God who knew he WAS his brothers’ keeper. He blew it.

Here we go. I'm not even going to touch that. I'm tired right now.

Wait, I do have something to say.

Go pick on Bill Gates, he's still filthy rich despite being a massive donator.

Go pick on Madonna, she was last estimated to have $800million.

Go pick on Donald Trump, he spent a ton getting himself elected president, money that could have been better used to go to the vets or something.


There is a extremely long list of very wealthy people to go throw rocks at, take some time out and go throw rocks at them for a while. We'll be here when you get back.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So Prince gives M2 a million bucks for her ‘charity’ and she disperses it in dribs and drabs (5/10K ) to really worthy causes, then drops 50K on her lover (aka Smitty Boykins) and everyone is supposed to be impressed with how charitable they are? It wasn’t ‘charity’ that was driving him, it was the ability (actually promised through a love song ‘I’ll give you power”) to bestow power…and then take it away at will. Control, yet again. Despite his many charitable contributions, there were so many better ways to help people with the money he earned than letting lawyers, dodgy relatives and the tax man haul it away. If he knew he wasn’t going to need it in heaven, why didn’t he see the need around him? It’s a $200-300 MILLION DOLLAR PLUS, PLUS estate people…a $5,000 contribution to a worthwhile cause is pathetic. To those who say, it’s none of our business or he was really planning to do something meaningful and ran out of time …I say bullshit. He was an adult, a successful businessman and supposedly a man of God who knew he WAS his brothers’ keeper. He blew it.

Are you serious? Wow! You don't know what your talking about.

Then if that were the case...

Go throw rocks at the Elvis Estate.

Go throw rocks at the Lennon Estate.

Go throw rocks at the Hughes Estate.

Again there is a long list of wealthy estates with unlimited connections that keep getting richer who could give every dime to charity if they wanted to, aren't they pathetic too?

1Sasha said:

I think what Bodhi is saying is that Prince, in his position as a very wealthy man with unlimited connections in the world of finance and entertainment, could have long ago structured his estate to do exactly what he wanted it to do after he passed away. He didn't do that and so we today see the mess this failure has wrought. [Edited 8/8/17 17:58pm]

Yes, 1Sasha, thank you for expressing that thought way more eloquently than I did,,,bet YOU could re-write the Kama Sutra in one-third as many words. In response to those who encourage rock throwing at any and all wealthy people, don't know about their estate planning but I am throwing rocks at the MYTH so popular here that Prince was a great charitable huminaritian. It's been 20 years since he lost his son. Where's the children's hospital he thought of building on all those empty acres across from PP? Think about how many children could have been helped since Amiir passed. I would have quipped that the man was 'all yack and no shack'...but sadly, I think he was all shack and great music wrapped up in a gorgeous and dainty package of deception and mind games.

1Sasha said:

I think what Bodhi is saying is that Prince, in his position as a very wealthy man with unlimited connections in the world of finance and entertainment, could have long ago structured his estate to do exactly what he wanted it to do after he passed away. He didn't do that and so we today see the mess this failure has wrought. [Edited 8/8/17 17:58pm]

But we know he gave away a lot of money when he was alive and well. Even starting a non-profit that is still functioning. Also we know something is going on with this below.

Let's not assume that some sort of trust for charities was not set up. Some paperwork concerning his divorce was turend over to the Probate court and good Old Gamillah Corporation is still active at Paisley Park.

Key People Who owns Gamillah Incorporated

> > > > > > > > > > > > Name
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manuela Testolini
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manuela Testolini Nelson
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Known Addresses for Gamillah Incorporated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7760 France Ave S Minneapolis, MN 55435
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 470 W 78th St Chanhassen, MN 55317
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7801 Audubon Rd Chanhassen, MN 55317 (PP address)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Secretary of State
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Filing Type: Statement & Designation By Foreign Corporation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Active
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > State: California
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Foreign State: Minnesota
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > State ID: 02995892
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date Filed: Thursday, May 3, 2007
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Registered Agent Manuela Testolini
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Source
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Secretary of State
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data last refreshed on Monday, July 3, 2017
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Bodhitheblackdog said:

1Sasha said:

I think what Bodhi is saying is that Prince, in his position as a very wealthy man with unlimited connections in the world of finance and entertainment, could have long ago structured his estate to do exactly what he wanted it to do after he passed away. He didn't do that and so we today see the mess this failure has wrought. [Edited 8/8/17 17:58pm]

Yes, 1Sasha, thank you for expressing that thought way more eloquently than I did,,,bet YOU could re-write the Kama Sutra in one-third as many words. In response to those who encourage rock throwing at any and all wealthy people, don't know about their estate planning but I am throwing rocks at the MYTH so popular here that Prince was a great charitable huminaritian. It's been 20 years since he lost his son. Where's the children's hospital he thought of building on all those empty acres across from PP? Think about how many children could have been helped since Amiir passed. I would have quipped that the man was 'all yack and no shack'...but sadly, I think he was all shack and great music wrapped up in a gorgeous and dainty package of deception and mind games.

You have seen a proponderence of evidence of Prince's chariatable giving from tax docs back at L4OA days to the personal testimony of many people he helped. It is absurd to question his charitable giving. He provided seed money to start a non-profit. In the end spending 20 million to build a hospital does not make sense. State and goverments have enough tax revenue to build hospitals and I doubt the city of Channahassen is suffering for lack of medical care.

You could build a thousand hospitals and it would not have helped Amir. He had a genetic birth defect and I am not sure why this is still so hard for some to process.

research into genetic birth defects? duh

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So Prince gives M2 a million bucks for her ‘charity’ and she disperses it in dribs and drabs (5/10K ) to really worthy causes, then drops 50K on her lover (aka Smitty Boykins) and everyone is supposed to be impressed with how charitable they are? It wasn’t ‘charity’ that was driving him, it was the ability (actually promised through a love song ‘I’ll give you power”) to bestow power…and then take it away at will. Control, yet again. Despite his many charitable contributions, there were so many better ways to help people with the money he earned than letting lawyers, dodgy relatives and the tax man haul it away. If he knew he wasn’t going to need it in heaven, why didn’t he see the need around him? It’s a $200-300 MILLION DOLLAR PLUS, PLUS estate people…a $5,000 contribution to a worthwhile cause is pathetic. To those who say, it’s none of our business or he was really planning to do something meaningful and ran out of time …I say bullshit. He was an adult, a successful businessman and supposedly a man of God who knew he WAS his brothers’ keeper. He blew it.

He gave 1 million dollars to the Harlem Children's Zone and used a Quarter of a million to fund Yes We Can code is dribs and dabs to you.

If he hated his relatives he would have left them nothing. Instead they will live off of his music forever and he gave a million to M2 it was her money to dispense as she pleased. We are not sure if he even knew what Smitty Boykins was but if you are married you trust people to do the right thing.

You always have to pay lawyers living or dead so what is your point.

Was he bestowing power when he fed homeless people, paid for people's funnerals and hospital bills.

Get back on your meds.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

research into genetic birth defects? duh

That would not have saved Ahmir and you have no way of knowing if Prince did donate money to research. There are plenty of ways to help people with medical issues that do not involve building a hospital which unless it was a research center would not be functioning to find a cure for birth defects.

Remember the Mayo Clinic is in Minnesota so I am sure plenty of reasearch is being done.

DD55 said:

poppys said:

Imagine someone saying Prince was a self-promoter, like it's a bad thing. Van loved Prince, it's pretty obvious. Why shouldn't he carry the banner?

It’s not the same thing. Prince was a self-promoter of and for himself, but Van is using Prince’s name to promote himself. He’s not carrying a banner, he’s using Prince’s name to benefit himself. He’s saying, (if we believe him) something to the effect that ‘Prince gave money to me, so you should too’, why would I trust him? Because he looks good in a purple tie?

I have never heard Van say Prince gave me money so I need people to give me money as well.

Prince had Van disburse money as part of his job working. Remember Van was also a commentor on CNN so it appears he did have a paycheck coming.

[Edited 8/8/17 18:54pm]

laurarichardson said:

But we know he gave away a lot of money when he was alive and well. Even starting a non-profit that is still functioning. Also we know something is going on with this below.

Let's not assume that some sort of trust for charities was not set up. Some paperwork concerning his divorce was turend over to the Probate court and good Old Gamillah Corporation is still active at Paisley Park.

Key People Who owns Gamillah Incorporated

> > > > > > > > > > > > Name
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manuela Testolini
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manuela Testolini Nelson
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Known Addresses for Gamillah Incorporated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7760 France Ave S Minneapolis, MN 55435
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 470 W 78th St Chanhassen, MN 55317
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7801 Audubon Rd Chanhassen, MN 55317 (PP address)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Secretary of State
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Filing Type: Statement & Designation By Foreign Corporation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Active
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > State: California
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Foreign State: Minnesota
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > State ID: 02995892
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date Filed: Thursday, May 3, 2007
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Registered Agent Manuela Testolini
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Source
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Secretary of State
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data last refreshed on Monday, July 3, 2017
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

This is a Corporation for Product Distribution.

The Audubon address is no longer associated with this corporation.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

But we know he gave away a lot of money when he was alive and well. Even starting a non-profit that is still functioning. Also we know something is going on with this below.

Let's not assume that some sort of trust for charities was not set up. Some paperwork concerning his divorce was turend over to the Probate court and good Old Gamillah Corporation is still active at Paisley Park.

Key People Who owns Gamillah Incorporated

> > > > > > > > > > > > Name
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manuela Testolini
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manuela Testolini Nelson
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Known Addresses for Gamillah Incorporated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7760 France Ave S Minneapolis, MN 55435
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 470 W 78th St Chanhassen, MN 55317
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7801 Audubon Rd Chanhassen, MN 55317 (PP address)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Secretary of State
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Filing Type: Statement & Designation By Foreign Corporation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Active
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > State: California
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Foreign State: Minnesota
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > State ID: 02995892
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date Filed: Thursday, May 3, 2007
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Registered Agent Manuela Testolini
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Source
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Secretary of State
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data last refreshed on Monday, July 3, 2017
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

This is a Corporation for Product Distribution.

The Audubon address is no longer associated with this corporation.

What about the other two address?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

But we know he gave away a lot of money when he was alive and well. Even starting a non-profit that is still functioning. Also we know something is going on with this below.

Let's not assume that some sort of trust for charities was not set up. Some paperwork concerning his divorce was turend over to the Probate court and good Old Gamillah Corporation is still active at Paisley Park.

Key People Who owns Gamillah Incorporated

> > > > > > > > > > > > Name
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manuela Testolini
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manuela Testolini Nelson
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Known Addresses for Gamillah Incorporated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7760 France Ave S Minneapolis, MN 55435
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 470 W 78th St Chanhassen, MN 55317
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7801 Audubon Rd Chanhassen, MN 55317 (PP address)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Secretary of State
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Filing Type: Statement & Designation By Foreign Corporation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Active
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > State: California
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Foreign State: Minnesota
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > State ID: 02995892
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date Filed: Thursday, May 3, 2007
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Registered Agent Manuela Testolini
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Source
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > California Secretary of State
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data last refreshed on Monday, July 3, 2017
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

This is a Corporation for Product Distribution.

The Audubon address is no longer associated with this corporation.

As of what date? Because it says as of July, 3, 2017.

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is a Corporation for Product Distribution.

The Audubon address is no longer associated with this corporation.

As of what date? Because it says as of July, 3, 2017.

California Secretary of State website.

https://businesssearch.so...CBS/Detail