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PrintableWell I said it in April that the gravy train is over. Truth be told I will always be a Prince fan, but just like his fans don't seem to matter. Guess what I don't fucking care ...don't know em and they will never get another dime oughtta me. Not only did we lose Prince but we've been discarded...truly sad. | |
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Michaels family didn't treat fans like that and neither did Whitneys....u never bite the hand that feeds you! | |
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Prince suing fans was messed up and some of us told him it was fucked up. Trust me he knew too. | |
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bashraka said: This is going to be hard to swallow for some fans but at least some of the on-goings of the behavior of Prince's siblings, lawyers and numerous people filing bogus claims to be named heirs in the estate in probate court is on Prince. There's a reason why things like insurance and estate wills exist. For decades Prince could have EASILY drawn up clear and concise instructions on how he wanted Paisley Park Studios to be operated, who would inherit his possessions when he die, what to do with his vaulted recordings etc. He had access to the best lawyers money could buy and those legal documents could have been iron clad. Also, people act like Prince was ALWAYS fan accessible and did things strictly for the fans. Remember "P.F.U.N.K."? Suing 22 people for $1 million each before he dropped the suit? Issuing cease and desist orders on Housequake.com for alleged copyright infringement. Prince in life just like Bremer Trust, Londell Mcmillian, Charles Koppelman, Tyka Nelson etc are doing the best that they can to exploit Prince's properties to maximize the value of assets and minimize liabilities. Fans don't have to deal with the burden of sorting out Prince's finances, the family does. People forget that no matter how close or distant Prince's relatives were to Prince-there STILL HIS FAMILY and were there long before a single fan on this site knew who Prince was. but yeah...who bought all the CDs, concert tickets and such so that they could live in the homes they live in...his fans. | |
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nursev said: laurarichardson said: _No, he was sitting in 50 million in Real Estate and he had royalties from his songs. He may have other investments. People in his income break it are not usually liquid. He was really smart about his Real Estate investments. It looks like he was running a whole another business. wow...Prince was truly smart about his investments, but why was all this in such a mess then? --- Because they are not. I own investment property it is one of my assets. Let's say the property is worth 400,000.00 that is money I can put down as an asset. I do not have the 400,000.00 in my back pocket but I can sell that property and get that 400k. Unless someone other then Bremer had seen a list of P's assests and I mean everything right alongside is liabilities you know nothing. I am sure he had other investments and remember Bremer is a wealth management firm who he worked with for over 30 year he was not using them to not build wealth. One of the attorneys described it as a vast entertain empire leading me to think he had other investments that the public has no knowledge of. The media is framing him as poor because it fits the sterotype they want to sell to the public. They could report on his charitable work, or great real estaste portfolio but that would be too positive. | |
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laurarichardson said: nursev said: wow...Prince was truly smart about his investments, but why was all this in such a mess then? --- Because they are not. I own investment property it is one of my assets. Let's say the property is worth 400,000.00 that is money I can put down as an asset. I do not have the 400,000.00 in my back pocket but I can sell that property and get that 400k. Unless someone other then Bremer had seen a list of P's assests and I mean everything right alongside is liabilities you know nothing. I am sure he had other investments and remember Bremer is a wealth management firm who he worked with for over 30 year he was not using them to not build wealth. One of the attorneys described it as a vast entertain empire leading me to think he had other investments that the public has no knowledge of. The media is framing him as poor because it fits the sterotype they want to sell to the public. They could report on his charitable work, or great real estaste portfolio but that would be too positive. I know he had assets and a lot of them I'm just wondering why all this is framed to look like such a cluster fuck when it's not. | |
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nursev said: bashraka said: This is going to be hard to swallow for some fans but at least some of the on-goings of the behavior of Prince's siblings, lawyers and numerous people filing bogus claims to be named heirs in the estate in probate court is on Prince. There's a reason why things like insurance and estate wills exist. For decades Prince could have EASILY drawn up clear and concise instructions on how he wanted Paisley Park Studios to be operated, who would inherit his possessions when he die, what to do with his vaulted recordings etc. He had access to the best lawyers money could buy and those legal documents could have been iron clad. Also, people act like Prince was ALWAYS fan accessible and did things strictly for the fans. Remember "P.F.U.N.K."? Suing 22 people for $1 million each before he dropped the suit? Issuing cease and desist orders on Housequake.com for alleged copyright infringement. Prince in life just like Bremer Trust, Londell Mcmillian, Charles Koppelman, Tyka Nelson etc are doing the best that they can to exploit Prince's properties to maximize the value of assets and minimize liabilities. Fans don't have to deal with the burden of sorting out Prince's finances, the family does. People forget that no matter how close or distant Prince's relatives were to Prince-there STILL HIS FAMILY and were there long before a single fan on this site knew who Prince was. but yeah...who bought all the CDs, concert tickets and such so that they could live in the homes they live in...his fans. --- Once again if you read about what went on with his Dad's estate which Prince was executor you would know he knew exactly what would happen since his dad did not have a will. His dingbat sibs would be contesting the will just like Ray Charles and James Brown's heirs. The state is going to figure out who is really an heir the assests will be added up the bills will be paid (taxes as a will does prevent you from paying them). The family will get their shares and they will have to decide as a group what to do with the catalog. If they do something with the catalog they will get their shares from the revenue. The only thing making a mess is the bogus claims from people claiming to children a will would have prevented that from happening but I doubt Prince though this would happen. I wish he had put everything in a trust so no one would know anything at all but for all we know some of the money could be in a trust. He did not hate his brothers and sisters he wanted them to have something and they will. | |
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nursev said: laurarichardson said: --- Because they are not. I own investment property it is one of my assets. Let's say the property is worth 400,000.00 that is money I can put down as an asset. I do not have the 400,000.00 in my back pocket but I can sell that property and get that 400k. Unless someone other then Bremer had seen a list of P's assests and I mean everything right alongside is liabilities you know nothing. I am sure he had other investments and remember Bremer is a wealth management firm who he worked with for over 30 year he was not using them to not build wealth. One of the attorneys described it as a vast entertain empire leading me to think he had other investments that the public has no knowledge of. The media is framing him as poor because it fits the sterotype they want to sell to the public. They could report on his charitable work, or great real estaste portfolio but that would be too positive. I know he had assets and a lot of them I'm just wondering why all this is framed to look like such a cluster fuck when it's not. ---Stereotyping and do writers (liberal arts) know anything about finance. | |
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bashraka said: This is going to be hard to swallow for some fans but at least some of the on-goings of the behavior of Prince's siblings, lawyers and numerous people filing bogus claims to be named heirs in the estate in probate court is on Prince. There's a reason why things like insurance and estate wills exist. For decades Prince could have EASILY drawn up clear and concise instructions on how he wanted Paisley Park Studios to be operated, who would inherit his possessions when he die, what to do with his vaulted recordings etc. He had access to the best lawyers money could buy and those legal documents could have been iron clad. Also, people act like Prince was ALWAYS fan accessible and did things strictly for the fans. Remember "P.F.U.N.K."? Suing 22 people for $1 million each before he dropped the suit? Issuing cease and desist orders on Housequake.com for alleged copyright infringement. Prince in life just like Bremer Trust, Londell Mcmillian, Charles Koppelman, Tyka Nelson etc are doing the best that they can to exploit Prince's properties to maximize the value of assets and minimize liabilities. Fans don't have to deal with the burden of sorting out Prince's finances, the family does. People forget that no matter how close or distant Prince's relatives were to Prince-there STILL HIS FAMILY and were there long before a single fan on this site knew who Prince was. -/ Cease and Desist orders are not lawsuits and all suits were dropped. Trust me if someone was stealing from the Disney corporation the suits would not have been been dropped. | |
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laurarichardson said: bashraka said: This is going to be hard to swallow for some fans but at least some of the on-goings of the behavior of Prince's siblings, lawyers and numerous people filing bogus claims to be named heirs in the estate in probate court is on Prince. There's a reason why things like insurance and estate wills exist. For decades Prince could have EASILY drawn up clear and concise instructions on how he wanted Paisley Park Studios to be operated, who would inherit his possessions when he die, what to do with his vaulted recordings etc. He had access to the best lawyers money could buy and those legal documents could have been iron clad. Also, people act like Prince was ALWAYS fan accessible and did things strictly for the fans. Remember "P.F.U.N.K."? Suing 22 people for $1 million each before he dropped the suit? Issuing cease and desist orders on Housequake.com for alleged copyright infringement. Prince in life just like Bremer Trust, Londell Mcmillian, Charles Koppelman, Tyka Nelson etc are doing the best that they can to exploit Prince's properties to maximize the value of assets and minimize liabilities. Fans don't have to deal with the burden of sorting out Prince's finances, the family does. People forget that no matter how close or distant Prince's relatives were to Prince-there STILL HIS FAMILY and were there long before a single fan on this site knew who Prince was. -/ Cease and Desist orders are not lawsuits and all suits were dropped. Trust me if someone was stealing from the Disney corporation the suits would not have been been dropped. true | |
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OP, im with u. Some of these MFers have been to 3 or 4 memorials and we cant get a bone. Fuck em. When the vault music drops, i aint dropping a single dime on any of it. I'll download it for free. They wont even be honest with us. Sheila, larry, lenny, claim to know exactly what he had but wont divulge info. Sad drama playing out in paisley world. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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Revolution said: OP, im with u. Some of these MFers have been to 3 or 4 memorials and we cant get a bone. Fuck em. When the vault music drops, i aint dropping a single dime on any of it. I'll download it for free. They wont even be honest with us. Sheila, larry, lenny, claim to know exactly what he had but wont divulge info. Sad drama playing out in paisley world. agreed 100% | |
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nursev said: Revolution said: OP, im with u. Some of these MFers have been to 3 or 4 memorials and we cant get a bone. Fuck em. When the vault music drops, i aint dropping a single dime on any of it. I'll download it for free. They wont even be honest with us. Sheila, larry, lenny, claim to know exactly what he had but wont divulge info. Sad drama playing out in paisley world. agreed 100% Lol.. All this right here!! 3x co sign ~Live Free ... Be Wyld~AlwaysOnlyMakeBelieve - LiveUrLyfe... laissez le bon temps rouler...vivre sans être sauvage...हमेशा ही बना विश्वास ~Change and do so CONSTANTLY... |
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ScarLett said: nursev said: agreed 100% Lol.. All this right here!! 3x co sign  | |
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like I said I won't buy another Mfing thing from any of them...here it is almost September with the same shit playing out...sad | |
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I agree with the no more money to be given to greedy hands. Would be different if the cousin mentioned PP to be a museum but he mentioned about it being a recording studio for the family... Anyway those have been my thoughts since Prince passed however I did buy at the record store Hit and Run 2 was thinking that would have been what Prince would have wanted. I remember when Prince was not happy when he found out about Starous...in a sad way I feel this way about Prince seems Someone lied about the way somebody died | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: I agree with the no more money to be given to greedy hands. Would be different if the cousin mentioned PP to be a museum but he mentioned about it being a recording studio for the family... Anyway those have been my thoughts since Prince passed however I did buy at the record store Hit and Run 2 was thinking that would have been what Prince would have wanted. I remember when Prince was not happy when he found out about Starous...in a sad way I feel this way about Prince seems Someone lied about the way somebody died about two months ago I bought all of Prince's last three CDs, his movies and a P&M poster and I did that out of love and remembrance of Prince. But I will never buy another thing from anybody associated or related to him. I feel like they said a big fuck you to his fans and him for that matter. | |
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nursev said: People can say what they want about the Jacksons but they NEVER left Michaels fans out...they were a class act throughout all that.
Are you serious?!?! Those money grubbing bastards?!?! They milk that mans legacy for all it was worth. Their careers were and are in the shitter and how do you go on tour and perform the songs that MJ performed?? Funny they never did this was while he was alive! Face it their are all crooked and shady like their dad! [Edited 8/18/16 14:49pm] | |
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IamBryan said: nursev said: People can say what they want about the Jacksons but they NEVER left Michaels fans out...they were a class act throughout all that. Are you serious?!?! Those money grubbing bastards?!?! They milk that mans legacy for all it was worth. Their careers were and are in the shitter and how do you go on tour and perform the songs that MJ perormed?? Funny they never did this was while he was alive! Face it their are all crooked and shady like their dad! I was talking about their treatment of his fans not about them personally. | |
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Hmmm I am not sure what could be expected from the family? I feel like whatever they could do we may still not feel satisfied because we are missing Prince and we don't care for these folks. So we are wanting someting that is not there.
I am just wondering if at this rate and pace Prince will go onto obscurity. It is a little dealt like he was second rate, there has nothing happened that justified this man. I keep waiting but I begin to wonder what and when will this celebration happen? Prince I will always miss and love U. | |
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nursev said: PurpleDiamonds1 said: I agree with the no more money to be given to greedy hands. Would be different if the cousin mentioned PP to be a museum but he mentioned about it being a recording studio for the family... Anyway those have been my thoughts since Prince passed however I did buy at the record store Hit and Run 2 was thinking that would have been what Prince would have wanted. I remember when Prince was not happy when he found out about Starous...in a sad way I feel this way about Prince seems Someone lied about the way somebody died about two months ago I bought all of Prince's last three CDs, his movies and a P&M poster and I did that out of love and remembrance of Prince. But I will never buy another thing from anybody associated or related to him. I feel like they said a big fuck you to his fans and him for that matter. I hear ya... Back then we were thinking with freshly broken hearts  But ....now we are thinking.... | |
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Think about all of the people now capitalizing on being associated with him..I read Mayte just filmed a TV show(guest star)selling out belly dance classes etc..and former band mates are doing major touring.I hope they all make donations to charity.As far as his family..Who knows how close he was with ones that have been silent.We know that he housed his Father until his death..And possibly his Mother and Step Father..It's been written Tyka lives in a property he owned? As far as Mani...IMHO I believe the reason she wanted the divorce to stay sealed was Not to protect Prince but herself..We don't know. Until the end of time | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: nursev said: about two months ago I bought all of Prince's last three CDs, his movies and a P&M poster and I did that out of love and remembrance of Prince. But I will never buy another thing from anybody associated or related to him. I feel like they said a big fuck you to his fans and him for that matter. I hear ya... Back then we were thinking with freshly broken hearts But ....now we are thinking.... Agreed | |
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Sadly Tyka could never be trusted, can't be trusted and will never be trusted. . Sadly Prince's family are the sort who will destroy his legacy. . Prince should have had his affairs in order and now the people whom he loathed now have his fortune. .
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OzlemUcucu said: Hmmm I am not sure what could be expected from the family? I feel like whatever they could do we may still not feel satisfied because we are missing Prince and we don't care for these folks. So we are wanting someting that is not there.
I am just wondering if at this rate and pace Prince will go onto obscurity. It is a little dealt like he was second rate, there has nothing happened that justified this man. I keep waiting but I begin to wonder what and when will this celebration happen? Prince has already been forgotten by the average person...he's an afterthought. But his fans are still trynna do right by him even though we too have been forgotten. He died in April but his memorial is in October...alrighty then...shit ain't right. | |
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Purplebflogirl said: Think about all of the people now capitalizing on being associated with him..I read Mayte just filmed a TV show(guest star)selling out belly dance classes etc..and former band mates are doing major touring.I hope they all make donations to charity.As far as his family..Who knows how close he was with ones that have been silent.We know that he housed his Father until his death..And possibly his Mother and Step Father..It's been written Tyka lives in a property he owned? As far as Mani...IMHO I believe the reason she wanted the divorce to stay sealed was Not to protect Prince but herself..We don't know. Sad  | |
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Then they want us to pay to go to his memorial...think not. | |
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Well say what u want about mj iambryan he was laid to rest like a king.And thats a fact not up 4 debate.Everyone from friends/celebs and fans are trying to give our prince his due 4 months later. | |
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The service was broadcast live around the world, from the U.S. to Slovakia to parts of Asia. Public screenings were held in 37 cinemas across the U.S., as well as in Barcelona, Berlin, Brussels, Bucharest, Gothenburg, Lisbon, London, Madrid, Malmö, Oslo, Paris, Milan, Seville, Stockholm, and Tallinn.[26] There was also a live broadcast at 3am in Melbourne, Australia at Federation Square.[27] Before the event, the organizers expected an estimated one billion viewers.[28][29][30] According to Nielsen, 31.1 million Americans watched the service live on television;[31] an amount comparable to the 35.1 million that watched the state funeral of former president Ronald Reagan in 2004.[32] According to some news sources the event exceeded 2.5 billion viewers, which would make it the most watched live television broadcast in history worldwide.[33] Although this number is not widely agreed upon. Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department motorcycle detail patrolling the parameter of the Staples Center during the memorial service. Also in comparison to other big non-funeral related events, the inauguration of President Barack Obama garnered about 38 million viewers, and the opening ceremony of the 2008 Summer Olympics garnered about 34.2 million viewers in the U.S. alone.[34] The memorial service was the most watched event in online streaming history.[35] CNN's webcast drew at least 9.7 million streams; their feed on Ustream, 4.6 million streams; and MSNBC's feed via Justin.tv drew three million.[36] Media coverage[edit] According to Global Language Monitor, the coverage from the death and aftermath to the funeral of Michael Jackson tops Pope John Paul II as No.1 media (noting the longer timeframe and contentious circumstances re. the former).[37] Cost[edit] The city of Los Angeles said the memorial had cost the city $1.4 million for 1,400 police officers, trash pick-up, sanitation, and traffic control. The city set up a webpage asking fans for donations to help with the expenses, though it kept crashing. City Attorney Carmen Trutanich said it would be wrong to expect taxpayers to finance a private event. "The city attorney does not want something like this happening again, the city paying for a private event," spokesman John Franklin told CNN. "That's especially in a cash-strapped city, where people have been furloughed or even lost jobs."[38] | |
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destinyc1 said:
Well say what u want about mj iambryan he was laid to rest like a king.And thats a fact not up 4 debate.Everyone from friends/celebs and fans are trying to give our prince his due 4 months later. AMEN!!!!! | |
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