RoyalDutch said:

I don’t believe that Prince wanted to commit suicide ….After the plane incident he told JH:

“‘I had to fight for my life. I remember hearing your voices from afar and saying to myself, ‘Follow the voices, follow the voices, get back in your body, you gotta to do this.’ And he said it was the hardest thing he’d ever done, to get back into his body like that.”

That doesn’t sound like someone who is willing to end his life.

Don’t think it was depression either, he went through a lot from young age one. Losing a child on top. It’s probably the most terrible thing that can happen to you as a parent (I’ve seen from nearby what an impact that has). He managed it all!

Does anybody know why his stomach hurt so bad? The chef mentioned it too right? Maybe he went to see Dr. S because of that? Could that be due to the long term medication use?

(Maybe someone brought this up already, if so, sorry)

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Royal: Haven't seen you here before, so "welcome" and "hello"

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I don't believe Prince committed suicide either. The fact that he made those comments after the plane incident (follow the voices....you gotta do this); proofs that he wanted to LIVE.

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This is why I have a hard time believing what his sister Tyka said about "We knew and planned this for 2-years". (her interview with Today Show).

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Prince has stated that he battled depression many times, but it is quite possible that some of medications he was on worsened his state of mind.

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zenarose said:

RoyalDutch said:

I don’t believe that Prince wanted to commit suicide ….After the plane incident he told JH:

“‘I had to fight for my life. I remember hearing your voices from afar and saying to myself, ‘Follow the voices, follow the voices, get back in your body, you gotta to do this.’ And he said it was the hardest thing he’d ever done, to get back into his body like that.”

That doesn’t sound like someone who is willing to end his life.

Don’t think it was depression either, he went through a lot from young age one. Losing a child on top. It’s probably the most terrible thing that can happen to you as a parent (I’ve seen from nearby what an impact that has). He managed it all!

Does anybody know why his stomach hurt so bad? The chef mentioned it too right? Maybe he went to see Dr. S because of that? Could that be due to the long term medication use?

(Maybe someone brought this up already, if so, sorry)

I don't believe that P took the suicide path either. But I think he may have been depressed. From what the chef stated in his interview, P had been sick for several months and not his usual self. So I think maybe being sick for a while and not being able to feel better made him feel down. If P was trying to wthdraw on his own, the stomach problems would have been a part of the process along with pain. Also the use of opiods can cause other problems due to the acetaminophen content, which can cause organ damage ie liver. We just don't know what was going on.

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

AnonymousFan said:

Could you post the link here?

Here is the link from cloveringold85 https://mindcontrolblacka...n-control/ It is on this thread http://prince.org/msg/7/4...?&pg=2

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Thanks, PurpleDiamonds. I just re-posted it, before I saw your post, so thank you!

CLOVERINGOLD85: What are your thoughts on reply #389? I have thought about that a lot.

zenarose said:

CLOVERINGOLD85: Good morning!

I have always wondered why Dr. K did not come to MN himself. If the situation was a "grave medical

emrgency" what was keeping him from catching the red eye?? Why would a DR. send a non Dr. ?? It

has never made sense to me. I'm sure he could have cancelled any appointments he might have

had..........or let the non Dr. handle it. IJS

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Zenarose: Thank you and Good Morning to you!

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The first thing they did wrong was to contact a doctor outside of MN. I'm not sure who's decision that was. Dr. K's son had absolutely NO BUSINESS being there!! He is not even a doctor. If there was an "medical emergency", then they should have called 911 or taken P to the hospital, or a clinic who could treat P's condition.....not send some doctor's son from California on a red-eye flight to MN. That was absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong!!

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We are both on the same page!

cloveringold85 said:

zenarose said:

CLOVERINGOLD85: Good morning!

I have always wondered why Dr. K did not come to MN himself. If the situation was a "grave medical

emrgency" what was keeping him from catching the red eye?? Why would a DR. send a non Dr. ?? It

has never made sense to me. I'm sure he could have cancelled any appointments he might have

had..........or let the non Dr. handle it. IJS

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Zenarose: Thank you and Good Morning to you!

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The first thing they did wrong was to contact a doctor outside of MN. I'm not sure who's decision that was. Dr. K's son had absolutely NO BUSINESS being there!! He is not even a doctor. If there was an "medical emergency", then they should have called 911 or taken P to the hospital, or a clinic who could treat P's condition.....not send some doctor's son from California on a red-eye flight to MN. That was absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong!!

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We are both on the same page!

The person that made the initial contact with Dr. K. was wrong to go there in the first place. If she needed recommendations ok. Then the Dr. was wrong in that he knew that he could not treat P because of the laws. Being that help was needed quickley, he should have contacted someone in MN and had the matter handled there. The sad part about it is that it could have been handled that very day when the call was made and P would be alive today. There was 12 whole hours to save his life.

Initial call made, Dr. contacts MN colleague, MN colleague contacts PP, help arrives at PP.

I'm with y'all Betty Ford is what 30-40 miles away the MAYO clinic is in Minny.. so umm 😐
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If I created a Facebook group for the subject of Prince's possible murder would you guys join it?

The longer this thread get, the more I get worried the mods are going to make it disappear or something. I just want to get this out of their grasp. It'd be quite a bit more structured too.

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zenarose said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Zenarose: Thank you and Good Morning to you!

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The first thing they did wrong was to contact a doctor outside of MN. I'm not sure who's decision that was. Dr. K's son had absolutely NO BUSINESS being there!! He is not even a doctor. If there was an "medical emergency", then they should have called 911 or taken P to the hospital, or a clinic who could treat P's condition.....not send some doctor's son from California on a red-eye flight to MN. That was absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong!!

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We are both on the same page!

The person that made the initial contact with Dr. K. was wrong to go there in the first place. If she needed recommendations ok. Then the Dr. was wrong in that he knew that he could not treat P because of the laws. Being that help was needed quickley, he should have contacted someone in MN and had the matter handled there. The sad part about it is that it could have been handled that very day when the call was made and P would be alive today. There was 12 whole hours to save his life.

Initial call made, Dr. contacts MN colleague, MN colleague contacts PP, help arrives at PP.

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Right on, Sista!!

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The fact that Dr. K sent his son (who is not qualified), just shows you this guy is shady as they come!! No good doctor would do that. I mean, look at MJ and what happened to Dr. Conrad Murray.......you would THINK these medical professionals would know better? I'm even wondering if money was a factor, because this is all too shady, when common sense would tell you to get Prince medical attention ASAP in Chanhassen/Minneapolis. You don't delay when someone's health & life is at stake.....you get help immediately!! The fact that someone did that is just incomprehensible to me!!!!

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AnonymousFan said:

If I created a Facebook group for the subject of Prince's possible murder would you guys join it?

The longer this thread get, the more I get worried the mods are going to make it disappear or something. I just want to get this out of their grasp. It'd be quite a bit more structured too.

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That's a great idea, but there are already several FB Pages on Prince, but I don't post there. In the future, it might be a good thing, because we don't know how long we will be allowed to discuss these topics here. God willing, we will still be able to, for a while.

zenarose said:

RoyalDutch said:

I don’t believe that Prince wanted to commit suicide ….After the plane incident he told JH:

“‘I had to fight for my life. I remember hearing your voices from afar and saying to myself, ‘Follow the voices, follow the voices, get back in your body, you gotta to do this.’ And he said it was the hardest thing he’d ever done, to get back into his body like that.”

That doesn’t sound like someone who is willing to end his life.

Don’t think it was depression either, he went through a lot from young age one. Losing a child on top. It’s probably the most terrible thing that can happen to you as a parent (I’ve seen from nearby what an impact that has). He managed it all!

Does anybody know why his stomach hurt so bad? The chef mentioned it too right? Maybe he went to see Dr. S because of that? Could that be due to the long term medication use?

(Maybe someone brought this up already, if so, sorry)

I don't believe that P took the suicide path either. But I think he may have been depressed. From what the chef stated in his interview, P had been sick for several months and not his usual self. So I think maybe being sick for a while and not being able to feel better made him feel down. If P was trying to wthdraw on his own, the stomach problems would have been a part of the process along with pain. Also the use of opiods can cause other problems due to the acetaminophen content, which can cause organ damage ie liver. We just don't know what was going on.

Add to that the overwhelming stress of keeping something like this away from the public eye and even most friends. That in itself can cause a lot of stress.

zenarose said:

CLOVERINGOLD85: Good morning!

I have always wondered why Dr. K did not come to MN himself. If the situation was a "grave medical

emrgency" what was keeping him from catching the red eye?? Why would a DR. send a non Dr. ?? It

has never made sense to me. I'm sure he could have cancelled any appointments he might have

had..........or let the non Dr. handle it. IJS

Maybe he did not want to be directly envolved for some reason? Cause with such a well known patient as Prince you would expect him to catch the first flight. Even if he had other appointments. Let his son take the fall, for some reason?

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cloveringold85 said:

zenarose said:

CLOVERINGOLD85: Good morning!

I have always wondered why Dr. K did not come to MN himself. If the situation was a "grave medical

emrgency" what was keeping him from catching the red eye?? Why would a DR. send a non Dr. ?? It

has never made sense to me. I'm sure he could have cancelled any appointments he might have

had..........or let the non Dr. handle it. IJS

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Zenarose: Thank you and Good Morning to you!

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The first thing they did wrong was to contact a doctor outside of MN. I'm not sure who's decision that was. Dr. K's son had absolutely NO BUSINESS being there!! He is not even a doctor. If there was an "medical emergency", then they should have called 911 or taken P to the hospital, or a clinic who could treat P's condition.....not send some doctor's son from California on a red-eye flight to MN. That was absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong!!

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We are both on the same page!

Perhaps they had already talked about contacting that specific doctor and when the time came for action, that's what they did. Also, Prince was so respected in his hometown that perhaps they thought it would be less probable for locals to find out about his addiction that if they went to a different state. Prince was obsesed with his privacy and also with the image he projected to his fams, so the stress of not being found out made them contact doctors further away. Also, if no doctor in his state no longer would have prescribed him pain meds, the alternative would be to go to a different state? Not really sure how that works in the States regarding medication and perscriptions, though.

MMJas said:

zenarose said:

I don't believe that P took the suicide path either. But I think he may have been depressed. From what the chef stated in his interview, P had been sick for several months and not his usual self. So I think maybe being sick for a while and not being able to feel better made him feel down. If P was trying to wthdraw on his own, the stomach problems would have been a part of the process along with pain. Also the use of opiods can cause other problems due to the acetaminophen content, which can cause organ damage ie liver. We just don't know what was going on.

Add to that the overwhelming stress of keeping something like this away from the public eye and even most friends. That in itself can cause a lot of stress.

Very stressful. Like a cat on a hot tin roof!

MMJas said:

zenarose said:

CLOVERINGOLD85: Good morning!

I have always wondered why Dr. K did not come to MN himself. If the situation was a "grave medical

emrgency" what was keeping him from catching the red eye?? Why would a DR. send a non Dr. ?? It

has never made sense to me. I'm sure he could have cancelled any appointments he might have

had..........or let the non Dr. handle it. IJS

Maybe he did not want to be directly envolved for some reason? Cause with such a well known patient as Prince you would expect him to catch the first flight. Even if he had other appointments. Let his son take the fall, for some reason?

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Right, why would you do that? Not only that but supply your son with a controlled substance to

carry across state lines!! The son could not administer the buprenorphine. Dr.S could not administer

the buprenorphine either. Where was the "resue" or "saving" in that equation? It does not make any

sense.

We all know that Prince was very "vocal" about "conspiracies" (NWO, Chemtrails & depopulation).

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So, do y'all think he was just 'crazy', or was he onto something? Personally, I think Prince spoke the "truth", and he was seeking answers, like most of us are. I always found his conversations most intriguing and he really made us "think" more about what was happening in the world.

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Now, for those of you who don't like these "conspiracy" threads (which is "this" thread), you don't need to comment or use profanity.

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MMJas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Zenarose: Thank you and Good Morning to you!

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The first thing they did wrong was to contact a doctor outside of MN. I'm not sure who's decision that was. Dr. K's son had absolutely NO BUSINESS being there!! He is not even a doctor. If there was an "medical emergency", then they should have called 911 or taken P to the hospital, or a clinic who could treat P's condition.....not send some doctor's son from California on a red-eye flight to MN. That was absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong!!

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We are both on the same page!

Perhaps they had already talked about contacting that specific doctor and when the time came for action, that's what they did. Also, Prince was so respected in his hometown that perhaps they thought it would be less probable for locals to find out about his addiction that if they went to a different state. Prince was obsesed with his privacy and also with the image he projected to his fams, so the stress of not being found out made them contact doctors further away. Also, if no doctor in his state no longer would have prescribed him pain meds, the alternative would be to go to a different state? Not really sure how that works in the States regarding medication and perscriptions, though.

Dr. K could not prescribe in MN as he is licensed in CA. Only a MN Dr. could prescribe the buprenorphine IF they had special certification and current training to do so. I really don't think P knew about AK coming to see him. And I am not so sure that he would have agreed to it due to his privacy needs. The media was already hot on him as it was due to the plane incident. But these are just my thoughts. Who knows?

MMJas said:

zenarose said:

CLOVERINGOLD85: Good morning!

I have always wondered why Dr. K did not come to MN himself. If the situation was a "grave medical

emrgency" what was keeping him from catching the red eye?? Why would a DR. send a non Dr. ?? It

has never made sense to me. I'm sure he could have cancelled any appointments he might have

had..........or let the non Dr. handle it. IJS

Maybe he did not want to be directly envolved for some reason? Cause with such a well known patient as Prince you would expect him to catch the first flight. Even if he had other appointments. Let his son take the fall, for some reason?

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Shady!!

MMJas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Zenarose: Thank you and Good Morning to you!

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The first thing they did wrong was to contact a doctor outside of MN. I'm not sure who's decision that was. Dr. K's son had absolutely NO BUSINESS being there!! He is not even a doctor. If there was an "medical emergency", then they should have called 911 or taken P to the hospital, or a clinic who could treat P's condition.....not send some doctor's son from California on a red-eye flight to MN. That was absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong!!

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We are both on the same page!

Perhaps they had already talked about contacting that specific doctor and when the time came for action, that's what they did. Also, Prince was so respected in his hometown that perhaps they thought it would be less probable for locals to find out about his addiction that if they went to a different state. Prince was obsesed with his privacy and also with the image he projected to his fams, so the stress of not being found out made them contact doctors further away. Also, if no doctor in his state no longer would have prescribed him pain meds, the alternative would be to go to a different state? Not really sure how that works in the States regarding medication and perscriptions, though.

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Prince could have easily gone to a treatment center somewhere around Minneapolis or within MN. I'm sure high-profile people do it all the time, without the public knowing. I don't think it really would matter if it was a doctor in CA or MN, because if someone wants to "leak" a story, they will, regardless. Just my opinion.

cloveringold85 said:

We all know that Prince was very "vocal" about "conspiracies" (NWO, Chemtrails & depopulation).

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So, do y'all think he was just 'crazy', or was he onto something? Personally, I think Prince spoke the "truth", and he was seeking answers, like most of us are. I always found his conversations most intriguing and he really made us "think" more about what was happening in the world.

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Now, for those of you who don't like these "conspiracy" threads (which is "this" thread), you don't need to comment or use profanity.

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I was watching the Tavis show as it happened. P wasn't playing games. He was a very very intelligent man. I believe he was shooting it straight. I have been hearing tidbits for years. My grandfather used to talk about things when I was growing up. As I got older it made sense. There is just too many coincidences.I am always open to learning.

Dibblekins said:

zenarose said:

MMJas said:

Maybe he did not want to be directly envolved for some reason? Cause with such a well known patient as Prince you would expect him to catch the first flight. Even if he had other appointments. Let his son take the fall, for some reason?

[Edited 10/10/16 15:26pm]

Right, why would you do that? Not only that but supply your son with a controlled substance to

carry across state lines!! The son could not administer the buprenorphine. Dr.S could not administer

the buprenorphine either. Where was the "resue" or "saving" in that equation? It does not make any

sense.

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Zena: Good point!

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The fact that Dr. K sent his "Son" with a controlled substance that he was not "licensed" to carry already put him in hot water!! Nevermind the fact that his Son was not qualified to treat Mr. Prince Rogers Nelson!! Dr. K. is as shady as they come! Really foolish move he made.

oliviacamron said:

Dibblekins said:

Here's another 'curious' thought...

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Given that Prince referred to himself as 'the light' and other 'messianic' terms, and that he tended to think in complex and symbolic ways...Do you think it's possible he WANTED to have his death termed an accidental overdose on illicit pain-killing drugs, in order to draw more attention to the issue and instigate a change in attitude / law?

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Do you think he might have used his own very unfortunate circumstances to deliberately martyr himself for the cause???

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OK, I'm braced for coming under fire!

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OLIVIACAMRON: LOL LOL I'm gonna tell you just like I told DIBBLES.....I hope you got on cast iron

underwear..... N Imma stay a few posts back!

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zenarose said:

cloveringold85 said:

We all know that Prince was very "vocal" about "conspiracies" (NWO, Chemtrails & depopulation).

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So, do y'all think he was just 'crazy', or was he onto something? Personally, I think Prince spoke the "truth", and he was seeking answers, like most of us are. I always found his conversations most intriguing and he really made us "think" more about what was happening in the world.

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Now, for those of you who don't like these "conspiracy" threads (which is "this" thread), you don't need to comment or use profanity.

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I was watching the Tavis show as it happened. P wasn't playing games. He was a very very intelligent man. I believe he was shooting it straight. I have been hearing tidbits for years. My grandfather used to talk about things when I was growing up. As I got older it made sense. There is just too many coincidences.I am always open to learning.

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Zena: Me too! I always try and keep an "open mind" about things. Especially when the pieces to the puzzle "don't fit". Prince was a very intelligent man and I don't think he was "crazy" at all. I've been called crazy on this board (among other things), for voicing my opinion. But, until all the "facts" are presented, there will be debates as to what really went on at PP on April 21st.

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I'm sure your Grandfather told you some amazing stories.

zenarose said:

oliviacamron said:

Dibblekins said:

OLIVIACAMRON: LOL LOL I'm gonna tell you just like I told DIBBLES.....I hope you got on cast iron

underwear..... N Imma stay a few posts back!

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LMAO Ladies!! Like Prince said: "I have no horses in that race." LOL

cloveringold85 said:

O my God. I was just reading this like lalala until I read Vodafone ! Vodafone , Swedish, and thier connection to Tidal. Vodafone is part of the Bilderberg group, aka Illuminati. I had no idea of there connection to Tidal. Vodafone owned the company that created Tidal.and they are Swedish, this is big. The Swedish elite are trying to control the worlds drinking water. So many dots connect. They have not stopped conecting. Research Bilderberg and who has been to those meetings. It's scary. There really is a plan for one government, elite in control of the world. " We will be like slaves on a plantation" - Prince. " Black folks?" - Tavis Smiley. " NO, everybody" - Prince.

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Thanks, PurpleDiamonds. I just re-posted it, before I saw your post, so thank you!

O my God. I was just reading this like lalala until I read Vodafone ! Vodafone , Swedish, and thier connection to Tidal. Vodafone is part of the Bilderberg group, aka Illuminati. I had no idea of there connection to Tidal. Vodafone owned the company that created Tidal.and they are Swedish, this is big. The Swedish elite are trying to control the worlds drinking water. So many dots connect. They have not stopped conecting. Research Bilderberg and who has been to those meetings. It's scary. There really is a plan for one government, elite in control of the world. " We will be like slaves on a plantation" - Prince. " Black folks?" - Tavis Smiley. " NO, everybody" - Prince.

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Olivia: Yes, that Tavis Smiley interview. Prince was being "very" serious.

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I will have to do some research on "Bilderberg". That is some shady business there with the Swedes.

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I have no idea why P would get involved with Jay Z and "Tidal". Maybe he didn't know what they were up to?

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Speaking of Jay-Z, ever heard of that song he wrote "All the way up"? Part of the lyrics.....

Prince left his masters where they safe and sound
We never gonna let the elevator take him down

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Here is the full lyrics:

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http://genius.com/Fat-joe-and-remy-ma-all-the-way-up-remix-lyrics

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We are just "paranoid" "consipiracy theorists", right? LOL

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AnonymousFan said:

I think I'm following. Is it JusticeforthePurpleOne ?

oliviacamron said:

AnonymousFan said:

If I created a Facebook group for the subject of Prince's possible murder would you guys join it?

The longer this thread get, the more I get worried the mods are going to make it disappear or something. I just want to get this out of their grasp. It'd be quite a bit more structured too.

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I think I'm following. Is it JusticeforthePurpleOne ?

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Sounds good

No body likes a martyr playing their own cards "June"... yes if u create a fb I will come. The formatting on the org drives me!!!

The only reason to send the son to MN is in case he was caught he didn't run the possibility of losing his license where dr k would.. plus think about it the supposed dr who was to administer the suboxene never showed up.. and supposedly the CALL that drew Kirk and Meron was a holistic dr that he was supposed to see but he didn't show up so the doc called them .. then they show up with the med student.. umm just NO